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Kidnapped Girl Rescued; Sinkhole Opens in Florida; Sinkholes Across U.S. Examined; New York City Stop and Frisk Law Ruled Unconstitutional; New Details on Florida Sinkhole; Hyper Speed Transportation in Hyperloop?

Aired August 13, 2013 - 07:00   ET

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My family and I are eternally grateful. Now, it's time for us to grieve and move onto the healing process.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Finally home. This morning, Hannah Anderson is back with her father in San Diego. New details about her terrifying ordeal. How her captor fought back in his final moments?

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: New details on the giant sinkhole that destroyed a resort outside Disney World. The moment it happened caught on tape and what you need to know about these dangers below.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Hyper speed. The billionaire with the new plan to push travel to its limits. Can this new system get you from L.A. to San Francisco in under 30 minutes?

CUOMO: Your NEW DAY starts right now.

ANNOUNCER: What you need to know.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We thought we'd live and die here. We didn't have a plan b.

ANNOUNCER: What you just have to see. This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan, and Michaela Pereira.

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CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome back to NEW DAY. It's Tuesday, August 13, 7:00 in the east. I'm Chris Cuomo.

BOLDUAN: I am Kate Bolduan. We're here with news anchor Michaela Pereira.

PEREIRA: Good morning.

BOLDUAN: Coming up this hour, New York City's stop and frisk controversy ruled unconstitutional by the judge. The city argues, though, it is key to keeping crime rates down. But the court says it violates basic rights. The debate is heating up this morning and it has big implications for many other cities, not just New York. CUOMO: Then we have another crime story. A NEW DAY exclusive. Bizarre -- a bank executive plotting to kill his wife hiring a teen. The details are shocking. We'll go through the details with his wife and his daughter, both of whom say they fear for their lives.

BOLDUAN: And a legal win for Paula Deen. A judge has thrown out that race discrimination case against the celebrity cook. Despite the victory in court, though, is it too late for her career? We'll take a look.

CUOMO: We'll begin this morning with the painful road to recovery for Hannah Anderson. The California teen is back in the arms of her family this morning after a week in captivity, but so bitter sweet because the 16-year-old must now come to grips with the reality that her mother and brother are gone. Miguel Marquez is live in Boise, Idaho. Good morning, Miguel.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. People who know Hannah say that she is starting to smile a little bit. She's starting to talk about her experience as well but, sadly, she's also helping in the preparations for the funeral for her mother and her eight-year-old brother Ethan.

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MARQUEZ: More than a week after being kidnapped by a close family friend, Hannah Anderson is waking up this morning released from her captor, the 16-year-old teen reuniting with her father.

BRETT ANDERSON, HANNAH ANDERSON'S FATHER: I am very proud of her and I love her very much.

MARQUEZ: Her horrible ordeal far from over. Hannah is just learning that her mother and eight-year-old brother Ethan were murdered, their bodies found in the burning home of abductor James Lee DiMaggio east of San Diego on August 4th.

ANDERSON: The healing process will be slow. She has been through a tremendous, horrific ordeal.

MARQUEZ: DiMaggio is believed to have then kidnapped Hannah leading to a highly publicized Amber alert, the international manhunt stretching up and down the west coast. She was found 1,000 miles from DiMaggio's home. Authorities say he had a rifle when the FBI reached this remote location in Idaho where he held Hannah under duress.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The only way to access this is by helicopter.

MARQUEZ: DiMaggio fired at least one shot at the FBI, Hannah in close proximity to her captor when he was gunned down by the FBI.

BILL GORE, SAN DIEGO COUNTY SHERIFF: She is a victim in every sense of the word in this horrific crime.

MARQUEZ: The major break in the case came last Wednesday when a group of horseback riders encountered the pair, later recognizing the team from an Amber alert.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She had a scared look on her face when I first came up the trail.

MARQUEZ: Many details remain unclear, including DiMaggio's motive and the circumstances which Hannah traveled with DiMaggio. Now that Hannah is back, her father says the family needs to heel and grieve.

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MARQUEZ: Now one other thing the sheriffs said yesterday, this is the way he put it, that she was under extreme, extreme duress during this entire saga, seeming to squelch the rumors in her being complicit in this kidnapping. The last thing the family wants is for the victim to be victimized anymore, Kate.

BOLDUAN: There are still a lot of questions surrounding exactly how and why this happened. But that was one thing the sheriff tried to make clear yesterday. Miguel, great work. Thank you so much.

Now to Florida. This morning engineers are investigating the sinkhole that swallowed up buildings at the Summer bay Resort in central Florida. It's 100 feet wide but geologists don't expect it to expand any further. Martin Savidge is live in Claremont, Florida, with more on this. The video is just amazing, Martin.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's stunning. Good morning, Kate. We should point out that authorities are expected to hold a news conference in a half hour from now. Meanwhile, amazing, miraculous. That's how they're describing the fact that nobody was killed. Take a look.

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SAVIDGE: A dramatic moment caught on tape as a condominium at the Summer Bay Resort collapsed into a sinkhole. Not long before it had been packed with vacationers. Ben Warrick of Des Moines, Iowa, started rolling at the same time.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I turned to film the guys talking to the fire department. I heard a crack and I switched over and the roof came down.

SAVIDGE: For more than 100 guests here to see the land of the Magic Kingdom, suddenly they were gripped in terror in the middle of the night. Those watching nearby couldn't believe their eyes.

ENRIQUE DIAZ, WITNESS: I saw it. That was crazy. How is that happening?

SAVIDGE: Miraculously no one was killed, not even injured. Some credit a security guard. In Florida most sinkholes occur when the states acidic water table eats away at the limestone rock. The resort has hired a private engineering firm to look for more possible holes. Meanwhile Warrick is looking for a little less excitement. All of this happened just hours after he arrived for awe one week get away. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're going to be fine. Power is back. We've got air conditioning. Hopefully we're still going to have a great vacation.

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SAVIDGE: Property managers say 15 years ago when they built the building that collapsed on this resort, they did an inspection of the property looking for sinkholes. They didn't find anything. They believe this occurred since then. Chris?

CUOMO: Martin, thank you very much. That's the scary thing about this. This sinkhole that we're telling you about now, this isn't the only one. Sinkholes are opening up across the country. The question is, how can you avoid being swallowed up by the earth? "EARLY START" anchor John Berman is here with more on this.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR, "EARLY START": People are asking, is this happening more frequently now? The truth is there are not meticulous national records for sinkholes, but in Florida there are 25,000 reported over a five year period. That is an average of 17 claims a day just in Florida. As we've seen, they're dangerous and they can be deadly.

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BERMAN: That's what a sinkhole sounds like, swallowing the Summer Bay Resort early Monday morning, the 60 foot wide crater in Claremont, Florida, just the latest incident in this year's string of sinkholes across the country. In July 60-year-old Pamela Knox plummeted into a nearly 20 foot sinkhole while driving on a busy Toledo, Ohio, street.

PAMELA KNOX, SURVIVED SINKHOLE COLLAPSE: As the car was falling I kept calling on the name of Jesus. I kept saying "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus."

BERMAN: But some have not been so lucky.

JEREMY BUSH, TRIED TO SAVE BROTHER FROM SINKHOLE: I couldn't get him out. I tried so hard. I tried everything I could.

BERMAN: In February a sinkhole opened up underneath a suburban Tampa home, killing 36-year-old Jeff Bush who was sleeping in his bedroom.

This is how sinkholes are formed. A cavity slowly develops in the limestone bedrock. Over time it widens, eventually breaking the surface. Then the clay and sand above collapse into the hole swallowing everything in its path. Repairs can be costly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I stepped right here and my foot went down in the hole.

TINA FURLOW, SINKHOLE UNDER HOME: We thought we'd live and die here. We didn't have a plan b.

BERMAN: A plan is what sinkhole inspectors say could prevent destruction.

MASON CHICKONSKI, SINKHOLE INSPECTOR: Behind the stucco the block could be broken. Just another sign of sinkhole activity or at least enough for you to know to have your place tested.

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BERMAN: You see those cracks there, and inspectors say take every crack seriously. It could be an indication your house is moving or maybe sinking a little. As for possible fixes, they're expensive. You can pump concrete in pipes underneath the house. Another option is actually to install brackets under the house, essentially putting them on stilts. The fixes are hard and expensive.

CUOMO: But, what's the alternative?

BERMAN: As you've mentioned before, be careful where you move sometimes. Be careful moving to an area susceptible for sinkholes.

CUOMO: Thanks, John.

BOLDUAN: A federal judge is ruling New York City's stop and frisk practice violates the rights of minorities. In a scathing opinion she wrote that police had, quote-unquote, "adopted a policy of indirect racial profiling" and has appointed a monitor to oversee reforms of the program.

But Mayor Michael Bloomberg is defending the program and plans to appeal. Joining us now is CNN legal analyst and former federal prosecutor Sunny Hostin to talk more about this. This is a complex program. It's really difficult to break it down, especially how meaty this opinion was.

SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: It's a 200-page opinion.

BOLDUAN: It's a very complex opinion. At the core of it the judge says the program is unconstitutional. Where does she see the problem?

HOSTIN: She sees the problem in that there was evidence over this nine-week trial presented to her that out of 4.4 million stops conducted by the NYPD, 88 percent of those didn't result in an arrest, and by and large those stops were done to African-American and Latino young men.

And so she's saying that while stop and frisk isn't necessarily off the table for New York, it has to be done constitutionally, and they crossed the constitutional line, they cross the Fourth amendment and they cross the 14th amendment by not -- by using, rather, a system of racial profiling rather than a reasonable suspicion.

BOLDUAN: And she -- as you said, she is not ordering that the program completely end, and that's why I think people will wonder, then why are the mayor and police commissioner fighting back against it? We do know that they say that this program has saved lives, gotten guns off the street and it is key to keeping -- to their crime fighting efforts and keeping crime to an historic low. Why are they fighting against this?

HOSTIN: I want to say this -- stop and frisk has been around since 1968. And it can be a very effective law enforcement tool. I think that is why the mayor wants to make sure that the program continues. It has certainly been effective. The Supreme Court has found it can be effective. But, again, it has to be done in a constitutionally appropriate way.

BOLDUAN: You've got to find the balance.

HOSTIN: You've got to find that balance. Perhaps they will win on appeal because the second circuit hasn't been kind to this judge. If you do it, do it right. Do it in the way that it's supposed to be done. The way it's supposed to be done, Kate, you have to if you're going to stop someone on the street and infringe on their personal rights, you have to have what's called a reasonable suspicion. And that reasonable suspicion is more than a hunch. It's that this person is committing a crime or about to commit a crime.

BOLDUAN: The judge thinks that wasn't necessarily established.

HOSTIN: That that wasn't necessarily established.

BOLDUAN: This is bigger than New York City. Often police across the country can look at New York City because they were very aggressive with this. And so there are implications across the country.

HOSTIN: I think so. Many people have been watching this because, again, stop and frisk can be expensive. Mayor Bloomberg has done things in New York city. I'm a native New Yorker. We're talking about the gun program he has. Crime has been lowered under his administration and so he has done some pretty good thing. Calorie counting I have liked in fast food restaurants.

BOLDUAN: Some would disagree with you.

HOSTIN: I think he's done some good things, but this can be a good thing for the New York City police department because if it's done correctly it can help save lives.

BOLDUAN: It's all about striking the balance. They are going to appeal?

HOSTIN: Yes, they will.

BOLDUAN: Thank you, Sunny.

CUOMO: All right, a lot of other news as well, so let's get over to Michaela.

PEREIRA: We start with some tragedy at Turner Field in Atlanta. A man falling 65 feet to his death during a rain delay at a Braves- Phillies game last night. He landed in the parking lot. Police say the fall appears to be accidental and it's too early in the investigation to determine whether alcohol played a factor. Two friends of Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev will be arraigned in federal court today. Those men accused of trying to impede the investigation. They're both natives of Kazakhstan. Prosecutors say the young man removed a backpack and a laptop computer from Dzhokhar Tsarnaev UMass, Dartmouth dorm room, tried to destroy emptied out fireworks Tsarnaev allegedly left behind.

A rodeo clown who performed during a Missouri state fair while wearing a mask of President Obama has been banned from performing there ever again. While the cloud was performing, a voice over the loud speaker asked if they wanted to see Obama run down by a bull. Fair officials have since apologized for the stunt.

A mystery priest who is being called an angel has now been identified. This is Reverend Patrick Dowling of Jefferson City, Missouri, seemingly appeared out of nowhere at the scene of a horrific accident last week and prayed with a teenage girl trapped in her car. Emergency officials were able to remove 19-year-old Katie Lenz from the wreckage. She was severely injured but she did survive.

Vandalism at the Iowa state fair, someone doused the fair's iconic butter cow with red paint over the weekend. A group called Iowans for Animal Liberation took responsibility, hoping to draw attention to the slaughter of animals. But the paint was removed, the butter cow was cleaned up and put back on its buttery display. This has been a tradition of the Iowa state fair since 1911.

CUOMO: Paint on the butter cow.

BOLDUAN: That's the only way to sum it up.

PEREIRA: Anaheim's NHL player.

BOLDUAN: Mine was Christiane Amanpour.

CUOMO: That's a point of dispute. I came up with it. You just liked it when I said it.

BOLDUAN: I get whatever I want.

CUOMO: That has been the course of action.

BOLDUAN: All right, let's get straight over to CNN's meteorologist Indra Petersons. She's here with a look at the weather around the country this morning.

INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Hi, good morning. We were watching a severe thunderstorm this morning. In fact a tornado warning just expired right here at 7:15. And that was heading towards Wilmington, Delaware.

But you can tell, look at all of the heavy rain pushing through the area currently. So this is what we're going be watching today, fast moving into the northeast and mid-Atlantic. Look for 1 to 2 inches, even 2 to 3 inches for rain in the region today. All thanks to a really big line of storms extending all the way back through Oklahoma. So yes, still dealing with the flood threat throughout Oklahoma today, another several inches in that region.

What we're watching, again, a back-moving as we go through the northeast and pretty much an exact replica what we saw last week sagging down into the south. So with that, we're going to continue to pull all of this moisture out of the Gulf. We'er going to be drenching the area, it's going to be all that tropical, warm, humid moisture there. So with that, anywhere from 2 to 4 inches of rain, even 5 to 8 inches if we take this all the way out to Sunday.

And I wanted to show you some of these totals. This is just since June -- Fort Lauderdale has already seen 30 inches of rain. We're talking anywhere from 10 to even 20 inches above normal. Tallahassee, Florida, there, 18 inches above normal already; another 5, 8, even 10 inches of rain. Never a good thing.

BOLDUAN: I guess bright side we won't be looking at drought conditions anytime soon there.

PETERSONS: Yes, maybe more sinkholes though.

BOLDUAN: Well that's actually a very good point. Thanks so much, Indra.

CUOMO: Took a little Google break there. Saltalamacchia kind of falls flat. Great baseball player, but it means "jump the spot" in Italian.

BOLDUAN: So you're going to have to pick another one? All right, we'll work on it.

CUOMO: I'll figure it out.

On the break, think amongst yourselves, coming up on NEW DAY, a NEW DAY exclusive. A former bank executive charged with plotting to kill his wife with the help of his girlfriend. The intended target will join us live just ahead and tells us why she fears for her life.

BOLDUAN: And, plus, coming up, talk about riding shotgun. Billionaire Elon Musk unveils his high-speed Hyperloop transport system. I love it just by the name. Could it really get you from Los Angeles to San Francisco in 30 minutes?

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PEREIRA: All right, welcome back to NEW DAY. So glad you could be with us this morning. How would you like to travel from San Francisco to L.A. in a half an hour? That's the vision of Elon Musk, the technical genius who invented the Tesla electric car, the Space-X7 program, the guy behind PayPal. He's calling his proposed travel system the Hyperloop.

So we give a gigantic and warm NEW DAY welcome to Richard Quest, who joins us here in New York to explain more. We're so glad to have you on NEW DAY.

(CROSSTALK) PEREIRA: Let's talk about this. What exactly is his vision? What is this Hyperloop?

RICHARD QUEST, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: All right. The Hyperloop is a tube that will be built on pillars for the 400 miles between Los Angeles to San Francisco. In it, he will put capsules which will seat up to 28 people, and then fire - whoos --, down the tube, up to 700 miles an hour.

Now the idea is that it will be solar powered.

PEREIRA: OK.

QUEST: It will have compressors to deal with the friction. It will have all sorts of things. And you'll do the journey, as you can see, comfortably from your seat in just over 30 minutes. He hopes he would run it one every up to two minutes, perhaps even one every 30 seconds of peak time. Now, to put this into perspective, he says it will cost $6 billion -- $6 billion to $7 billion. Bearing in mind, the California high speed rail, well, that's right into 10, 20, 30, 40, 60, 70 -- that's well into the high billions. This will travel about 500 miles an hour.

PEREIRA: OK.

QUEST: This thing --

BOLDUAN: Michaela, catch it.

CUOMO: Very nice.

QUEST: Will travel at about -- that's a bullet train. 150 miles an hour.

BOLDUAN: Very fast.

QUEST: This thing will travel at 12,000 miles an hour.

CUOMO: What do you think of my time zone? So it's faster than all of these by a large margin?

QUEST: No, it's about - it's a bit more than this, it's a bit less than that.

CUOMO: Right, less than space.

BOLDUAN: So is this genius or is this crazy?

QUEST: That's the beauty of this idea. Fifty odd pages of it to start with. I don't know because many a man has bet against Elon Musk. PayPal, who would've thought that would have worked? Tesla, who would've thought that would have worked. The various ideas. Is this genius? The science behind it is a bit -- yes, thank you. The science is a bit dodgy, but in 20, 30, 40 years' time, this could be the answer. So it's a foolish man or woman that says this is barking mad. CUOMO: The challenge would be maintenance of that vacuum.

QUEST: Oh, see, you're already you're starting. You've already started to try and find the problems.

CUOMO: Hi, Chris Cuomo, nice to meet you.

BOLDUAN: Richard is saying you have to embrace the visionary.

QUEST: Yes, the vision.

PEREIRA: But here's another challenge. I like the idea of it being solar powered but if you've lived in San Francisco, you know there is no such thing as sun, especially in the summer. So the maintenance of it will be an issue.

QUEST: This is going to -- something like this is going to happen in some shape or form.

PEREIRA: Sure.

QUEST: That's what all the experts believe. Californians cannot continue to have 40, 50, 60 flights a day and not have some form of fast rapid system between San Francisco and Los Angeles. Now, whether this is the answer, I don't know, but what is very clear about Musk is he wants this to begin the debate. So he's putting his own money behind it to create the prototype, which he says ultimately could be the answer.

PEREIRA: And it's a fraction of the cost of the one that the state wants to build.

QUEST: $65 to $70 billion for them.

BOLDUAN: A tenth of the cost.

QUEST: Nobody has yet come up with the funding for this. Will it be private? Will it be public? I suspect it would be mainly private in the end (ph) because you wouldn't get it done otherwise. It's a long way from fruition but, ladies and gentlemen --

BOLDUAN: I love the idea.

QUEST: -- I urge you, look to the future.

CUOMO: I think that's the beauty of it is that he's already made his contribution. He's already built something, because he's built an idea that now can get somebody talking, because this is unsustainable.

BOLDUAN: And all based off the concept of when you pull up to the bank, the tube where you put your check in.

PEREIRA: The pneumatic tube.

QUEST: Oh the penumatic tube. That's where it starts.

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BOLDUAN: My favorite thing.

CUOMO: How could that go wrong? Putting you in a metal tube and shooting you at 700 miles an hour.

BOLDUAN: And I promise you, when this is made, Richard Quest will be on the maiden voyage.

QUEST: If I push this button?

BOLDUAN: What will happen?

QUEST: It goes even faster.

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BOLDUAN: Richard Quest, maiden voyage on NEW DAY. Thank you, sir. Great to see you.

Coming up next on NEW DAY. a NEW DAY exclusive. We're going to hear from the woman who allegedly was the target of a murder-for-hire plot. The main suspect: her husband.

CUOMO: And Paula Deen back in the news but this time good news for her. Courtroom victory. But she's still going to pay the price for what was revealed during the trial. We'll take you through it.

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