CNN CNN


 

Return to Transcripts main page

NEW DAY

Exposed: Secret Life of Jodi Arias; Prince William Talks Parenting Joys, Challenges; 911 Operator Saves the Wedding

Aired August 19, 2013 - 08:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Ah-hah, what a great band they were, at least for this song.

Welcome back to NEW DAY. It's Monday, August 19th. I'm Chris Cuomo.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Kate Bolduan. We're here with news anchor Michaela Pereira.

PEREIRA: Wow!

BOLDUAN: Yes. That was a statement.

CUOMO: Can you name a second?

BOLDUAN: Good point. Strong point.

CUOMO: Here it is.

BOLDUAN: Coming up in this half hour, it's a murder case that has captivated the nation and now, new chilling details of Jodi Arias' relationship with Travis Alexander leading up to his brutal murder. HLN's Jane Velez-Mitchell is the author of a brand-new book "Exposed: The Secret Life of Jodi Arias." And she's going to be joining us ahead to talk about it all.

CUOMO: And, did you watch Prince William talking about being a father? Don't worry if you missed it. Our global event continues. It was first on CNN. Prince William in conversation with CNN's Max Foster speaking for the first time about what it's like being a new dad. We're going to hear more of it. But first, let's get the news from Michaela.

Mick.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, let's take a look at the news developing this hour.

Stalled front will bring even more rain this week to the southeastern U.S. From the Gulf up through the Carolinas, more rain in the forecast. That means more flash flooding for some already hard hit areas. Gulfport, Mississippi, slammed with more than a foot of rain in just an hour, leaving a church parking lot flooded out following Sunday services. Olympic sprinter Oscar Pistorius now charged with premeditated murder in the death of his girlfriend on Valentine's Day. Pistorius was indicted this morning in South Africa on what would have been Reeva Steenkamp's 30th birthday. His murder trial now scheduled to begin March 3rd next year.

New developments out of Egypt. Former President Hosni Mubarak has been acquitted in one case against him. He remains in custody facing his most serious charge connected to the deadly crackdowns during the Arab Spring. All this follows a relentlessly violent week, putting the U.S. and Europe in the difficult position of reevaluating aid.

Army Private Bradley Manning could learn today just how much time he will spend in prison for leaking hundreds of thousands of classified documents to WikiLeaks. The 25-year-old Manning faces a maximum sentence of 90 years. Last week Manning apologized for his actions and for hurting the United States. A military judge could announce her decision as early as today.

Critics of Bob Filner hitting the streets of San Diego to collect 101,000 signatures in the next five weeks. They're trying to recall their embattled mayor -- 16 women now accuse Filner of sexual harassment. Later today, the mayor supporters are planning a rally at city hall and CNN will be there.

Those are your headlines at this hour, Chris?

CUOMO: All right, Mick, thank you very much.

The Jodi Arias trial fascinated the country and, as we all know, it's not over yet. As we approach a new hearing next week, many questions remain. A new book by HLN's Jane Velez-Mitchell, "Exposed: The Secret Life of Jodi Arias," sets out to answer those questions and offers insight into what you did not see during the trial. The book hits shelves, when? Tomorrow.

And Jane joins us right now. Welcome to NEW DAY, Jane. Thank you for being here. I'm no "quid pro cuomo" but come on --

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN HOST: Here's a copy of the book. There you go.

CUOMO: Not that I wasn't going to do the interview otherwise, but this is nice, this is nice. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Signed, right?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Absolutely.

CUOMO: And not just "To friend," it gets my name in there, too?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh yes, I want your feedback.

CUOMO: All right, thank you very much. Now, you know, the book is done for everybody else, and yet you were so ensconced in this trial, all 18 days of testimony. W hat surprised you in gathering the information about the unknown here? VELEZ-MITCHELL: Here's the thing, Chris. I'm watching her take the stand for 18 days and, in my opinion, lie through her teeth. And the prosecution was able to shatter some of the lies, but not all of them. So I decided I'm going to set the record straight and really expose her, expose the truth, because Travis is not here to speak for himself.

So, for example, she painted herself as this submissive woman who endured sex because Travis wanted it. I found out the exact opposite. A good friend, the best friend of Travis, told me that Travis described her as a nymphomaniac and gave a specific example and examples that are too graphic to mention on television.

But she was the sexual aggressor. She was the one who took a practicing Mormon, who was sexually naive, who may have only had sex with one other woman his entire life, maybe two, and turned him into something she later portrayed as a deviant. She was the puppet master, and that's what I think a lot of people didn't get. They still kind of think he's somehow to blame, and he's not.

CUOMO: So you give the analysis but there's also new reporting in this book.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: There's brand-new reporting. This is the first time I have ever said this -- Jodi Arias stalked another boyfriend years earlier. This is brand-new information. It did not come up at trial. And she did it in almost the exact same way that she terrorized Travis Alexander.

She became jealous, she conducted espionage, went into his private communications, and when he moved to another state, she crossed state lines, followed him even though they were broken up, moved right next to him -- this is exactly what she did to Travis Alexander. So there's a pattern here and nobody really knows this.

CUOMO: Why not? How did they miss it?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, first of all, some things were too prejudicial, as you know, to bring into the trial.

CUOMO: Right, that's true, there's a balancing test.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: There's -- a lot of people do not want to get involved in the Jodi Arias vortex because they're still afraid of Jodi Arias even though she's behind bars.

CUOMO: Well, a little of that is going to be imagined, right? Because she can't hurt you right now.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I don't know.

CUOMO: I get it. Fears that this speculation becomes fearful. But, OK, so, the big question is, you unpack two here, really. Who is she, right? To help make sense of the second big question, which is why? Just because you're a little bit of a sexual deviant, if that's what she is, murder? What do we think in the book about why this happened? VELEZ-MITCHELL: That's the challenging part of this. How does a beautiful, petite, demure, well-spoken woman commit a savage murder where she slit his throat ear to ear, six inches across and three and a half inches deep, stabbed him 29 times and shot him in the face, and the short answer is, she was upset because he was taking another women to Cancun.

The long answer is a series of horrific life choices that she made put her in a desperate situation financially and otherwise. She was desperate to get rescued and she said, Travis is going to rescue me. And when he didn't become her knight in shining armor and give her everything that she wanted through magical thinking, she then turned to revenge.

And we have information in "Exposed" about blackmail. I make a compelling case that she was blackmailing him, using the cell phone sex tape that the whole world heard. There's a lot of shocking stuff that didn't come out at trial.

CUOMO: So what do you think? Who did we see on stand? Did we somebody who has just compartmentalized this or is this a master manipulator? Because of the demeanor that we saw there cut so against the idea of being a cold-blooded killer. What's your take?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, look, if you take a look at the cover, here is the one we saw at trial. This is the real Jodi Arias. It's like two complete different people. And there's something called projection where pathological liars will say the exact opposite of the truth. Whatever they do, they put on you.

And that's pretty much what it was. Listen to her testimony, and if she testifies again in the penalty phase retrial, and I think she will, assume the exact opposite. Everything she said, from what I found, the exact opposite was true.

CUOMO: And the stakes are still very high, as you well know, because this new jury may find the death penalty. But if not, death penalty's off the table, right, by state law, it goes back to the judge and it becomes life sentence to 25 years.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Or natural life. I believe the judge has the option of deciding natural life or life with the possibility of getting out after 25 years. And I think that's why people are still concerned.

CUOMO: That's right. There's discretion here so the testimony will matter.

I know there's more in the book. I know I'm not supposed to push too much, but I'm too interested, Jane. That's what you do; you keep make me too interested and I keep asking you questions. People will have to pick it up and read it. Great use of the cover.

VELEZ-MITHCELL: Thank you, Chris. Thanks for having me on.

CUOMO: Hey, welcome to NEW DAY. Great to have you.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thank you. I love your show. It's fantastic.

CUOMO: Thanks. Kate?

BOLDUAN: Coming up next on NEW DAY a CNN global event. Britain's Prince William, the world's most famous new dad, sits down with our Max Foster in his first interview since his son's birth to talk about the joys and of course the challenges of fatherhood.

Also coming up, a 911 operator goes above and beyond and saves one woman's wedding. But how? The incredible details in the good stuff.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BOLDUAN: We want to welcome back our international viewers to a global CNN event. Not often we get to say that. Prince William one- on-one. The future King of England speaking publicly for the first time about fatherhood and finding his own way.

CNN's royal correspondent Max Foster is with us in New York this morning. Becoming dad has clearly had a profound effect on the prince.

MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: I think it has. I think you get a real sense of - I think he's got a sense of what it's like to be ordinary. He's hands on, he's doing it himself with Kate, and comes across in a way that I haven't seen him before come across.

And as you imagine, he's quite suspicious of the media so I wanted to ask him initially what it was like walking out in front of the world's media, literally was, outside the hospital - it was earlier this month, wasn't it? Or the end of last month's.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

PRINCE WILLIAM, DUKE OF CAMBRIDGE: I think more shock and dauntingness was the feeling I felt. But it was, the thing is I think I was on such a high anyway and so was Catherine, about George that really we were happy to show him off to whoever wanted to see him. As any new parent knows, you're only too happy to show off your new child and pretend that he's the best looking or best everything.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: There's the baby, the new royal heir in the United Kingdom.

FOSTER: You were comfortable there?

PRINCE WILLIAM: Yes. I felt - again, it's not somewhere I enjoy being, but I know that in the position I'm in that's what's required of me to do. And I think it's one of those things that I -- it's nice that people want to see George. So, you know, I'm just glad he wasn't screaming his head off the whole way through.

FOSTER: That moment you came out with the car seat, I mean, we had some warning you might be doing that. Fathers around the planet will be cursing you for doing it so easily. PRINCE WILLIAM: Believe me, it wasn't my first time. And I know there's been speculation about that. I had to practice. I really did. I was terrified I was going to do some -- it was going to fall off or it wasn't going to close properly. So I had actually practiced with that seat, but only once before.

FOSTER: And your decision to drive off. I remember that moment as well. That was the most nerve-wracking thing for me, having my family in the car. But that was something you were clearly determined to do.

PRINCE WILLIAM: Where I can be, I'm as independent as I want to be, and same as Catherine and Harry. We've all grown up differently to other generations and I very much feel if I can do it myself, I want to do it myself. And there are times you can't do it yourself and the system takes over or it's appropriate to do things differently.

But I think driving your son and your wife away from hospital was real important to me and I don't like fuss so it's much easier to do it yourself.

FOSTER: You didn't stop.

PRINCE WILLIAM: It's automatic, so it's all right.

FOSTER: The interpretation of the imagery we saw there swept around the world was this was a modern monarchy and a new way of monarchy. But was it that? Are we reading too much into it? Is it just you doing it your way? You and your wife doing it your own way?

PRINCE WILLIAM: I think so. And I'm just doing the way I know, and if it's the right way then brilliant. If it's the wrong way, then, well, try and get better. But no, I just -- I'm quite, I'm reasonably headstrong about what I believe in and what I go for and I've got fantastic people around me who give me great support and advice.

FOSTER (voice-over): The prince says Baby George is already quite a character.

PRINCE WILLIAM: Well, yes, he's a little bit of a rascal, we'll put it that way. So he either reminds me of my brother or me when I was younger. I'm not sure. But he's doing very well at the moment. He does like to keep having his nappy changed.

FOSTER (on camera): And you did the first nappy?

PRINCE WILLIAM: I did the first nappy, yes. It's actually --

FOSTER: Badge of honor.

PRINCE WILLIAM: Was a badge of honor, actually. I wasn't allowed to get away with it. I had every midwife staring at me going, "You do it. You do it." He's growing quite quickly actually, but he's a little fighter. He wiggles around quite a lot and he doesn't want to go to sleep that much, which is a little bit of a problem.

FOSTER: So you're up a lot at night? PRINCE WILLIAM: Little bit. Not as much as Catherine but, you know, she's doing a fantastic job.

FOSTER: And how is she, OK?

PRINCE WILLIAM: Yes, she's very well.

For me, Catherine and now little George are my priorities. And Lupo.

FOSTER: I was going to ask you about Lupo. How's Lupo coping?

PRINCE WILLIAM: He's coping all right, actually. As a lot of people know, you've dogs and bring a newborn back, they take a little bit of time to adapt. But he's been all right so far. He's been slobbering sort of around the house a bit, so he's perfectly happy.

FOSTER: And how are you about going back to work?

PRINCE WILLIAM: Well, as a few fathers might know, I'm actually quite looking forward to going back to work, get some sleep. So I'm just hoping the first few shifts I go back, I don't have night jobs.

FOSTER (voice-over): One of Prince William's passions is saving endangered species in Africa. He wants his son to experience the same Africa that he saw as a boy and as a young man, to spark in his son a passion for preserving the rarest wild animals, like his father did with him.

(on camera): You talked about your father whispering quietly in your ear as a young boy. Are you going to do the same for Prince George? Because it's such a - it's a cause you care so deeply about. Would you like him to pick up on it?

PRINCE WILLIAM: Probably. At this rate, I'll probably whisper sweet nothings in his ear, I'll have toy elephants and riders around room, we'll cover in sort of lots of bushes, make him grow up as if he's in the bush.

FOSTER (voice-over): He says the possibility of his son carrying on the royal family's legacy in Africa isn't his immediate concern.

PRINCE WILLIAM: At the moment, the only legacy I want to pass onto him is to sleep more and maybe not have to change his nappy quite so many times.

FOSTER (voice-over): Like any new mother or father parenthood has surprised and amazed Prince William.

PRINCE WILLIAM: I think the last few weeks for me have been just a very different emotional experience. Something I never thought I would feel myself. And I find, again, it's only been a short period, but a lot of things affect me differently now.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PEREIRA: It's true. BOLDUAN: It will continue to be like that, you know, as he's learning how to be a father and kind of finding his way. One thing you were kind of talking about it right before we went into the piece and we talked about this a lot during -- during the birth and when we were over there. Is that he's long had a tense relationship with the media and I wonder now that he has this little baby to take care of how he's going to approach that because this baby is born on the world stage.

FOSTER (on camera): Yes I did ask him about that. And he is going to be protective of, you know, he's particularly protective of Kate and now the baby and you can see how he's changed. I think he's grappling with all of that and I think he's going to be very protective. And there are going to be some pictures probably out tomorrow out of the family and it's probably going to be someone in the family that took the pictures. It's not even a photographer from outside the family.

BOLDUAN: -- which is unusual.

FOSTER: Yes. He is going to be very, very protective. I mean when Diana died he was in his formative years as was Harry. They grew up with photographers chasing them. That doesn't happen so much now. He's been deeply affected by photographers, in particular. And that's why it's so good to see him so relaxed in front of a camera.

BOLDUAN: Yes.

CUOMO: Diana. Obviously, you know, the woman who made him who he is, right. So much of he and his brother's lifestyle they attribute to the mother's protection, the mother's instruction, but when you have a baby you turn to family so immediately. You know, obviously they're at their mother-in-law's now. She's helping out the new mom. But any sense of what it means to him?

FOSTER: Yes I mean he would have thought about it. In the hospital he would have thought about it I'm sure. He is so close to his mother's memory. He talks a bit in the rest of the interview which you'll see next month about her legacy and wanting to keep that alive through his work in Africa. And it sounds a bit odd, but that's where he can be himself because people don't treat him as a prince. So that comes out a lot more.

And this news about another conspiracy theory in relation to her death, especially related to the military, which he cares about deeply is really sad particularly when he gives this to the media. You know he's going to think right --

BOLDUAN: Right this should be the focus on this.

PEREIRA: Getting inside to sit with him on his turf, too, inside Kensington. It must have been very interesting perspective having -- and he probably was much more relaxed there too.

FOSTER: Yes I was glad to do that and it was his garden. We were in this wall garden, was not very well kept, which you can see.

PEREIRA: Really? FOSTER: Yes.

(CROSSTALK)

BOLDUAN: You're not judging --

FOSTER: I was in the background reporting.

PEREIRA: Other priorities.

FOSTER: So I'm pretty much on their African crowds over there. So that's an admission.

BOLDUAN: There you go.

FOSTER: He was a bit embarrassed of the garden but you know. And they're in a very small little cottage it's a -- and we walked past it, literally a workman's cottage in the grounds. But of course the whole frontage of it, you saw it (INAUDIBLE) it's completely covered. And that's going to be a magnificent new apartment they call it.

BOLDUAN: Huge renovation, yes.

FOSTER: But it's not there yet, which is why they have been staying at the Middletons'. They haven't got a family home. They are almost homeless.

PEREIRA: Yes.

FOSTER: They don't have a palace. But they will have one.

PEREIRA: They got money.

FOSTER: They got two family homes.

BOLDUAN: Great work, though, Max.

FOSTER: Thank you very much.

BOLDUAN: This is a lot of fun. Thank you so much.

And we want to thank our international viewers for joining us and do not miss, you'll see much, much more of what the Prince has to say in CNN's special in September "PRINCE WILLIAM'S PASSION: NEW FATHER, NEW HOPE". It will be great. Thanks, Max.

CUOMO: We'll take a little break here.

When we come back on NEW DAY, "The Good Stuff", how a 911 dispatcher saved the day after somebody stole a bride's wedding dress. Can you imagine?

PEREIRA: And a church choir has a message more of us need to hear. Keep your business off Facebook. You'll want to hear this.

Speaking of royalty don't we have some guests in? BOLDUAN: Yes you'll also want to hear this. It's a Bolduan invasion on NEW DAY.

CUOMO: There they are.

BOLDUAN: My entire family. It's going to get real.

PEREIRA: They're wearing the team color. It's kind of fantastic.

BOLDUAN: Hi.

PEREIRA: It's going to get real.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CUOMO: Give us all the names fast. Start from the left.

BOLDUAN: OK, ready. Start from the left. Matt, Courtney, Alyssa, Janet, Althea, Spencer, Dad, Howie (ph).

PEREIRA: Look at that smile.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CUOMO: All right. Here is the music. Welcome back. It's time for "The Good Stuff". In today's edition 911 operators they save lives. We know that.

PEREIRA: Yes.

CUOMO: But have you ever heard of one saving a wedding?

BOLDUAN: No.

CUOMO: That's what happened when a 23-year-old bride from Washington had her dress stolen out of her car in broad daylight on her wedding day.

PEREIRA: Stop it. Stop it.

CUOMO: Can't

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: 911?.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm calling to report stuff stolen.

911 OPERATOR: I'm sorry. You said your truck was stolen?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I'm trying to -- my wedding dress. It happened like five minutes ago.

911 OPERATOR: And are you getting married today?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. (END AUDIO CLIP)

BOLDUAN: The poor thing.

CUOMO: Boy oh boy, that wasn't done by the groom, by the way. So don't ask yourself that. The next question the 911 operator named Candice would ask seems kind of unusual. Take a listen.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: What size is the dress?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Like a 1 or a 3.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

CUOMO: All right and why would she ask that? Well, turns out by some stroke of luck the 911 operator Amanda Rich (ph) just happened to be her size. Just happened to have gotten married a year and a half ago and the dress wasn't stored very far off. And just so happened this 911 dispatcher had the good stuff running through her veins.

So our 911 hero Candice calls her husband who delivers the dress to Amanda. The dress fits like a glove, the wedding goes off without a hitch. Yes it's true. You can't believe it's this good but it is.

The pair would later meet at the 911 office and it turns out, are you ready for this? Something borrowed has turned into something blue, like true blue friendship between the pair.

PEREIRA: That's a goose bump moment.

CUOMO: I mean, are you kidding me. It doesn't get more goodish than that.

BOLDUAN: If my wedding dress had been stolen on my wedding day --

CUOMO: All we would have heard is --

PEREIRA: The family is laughing. That makes me think that might be true.

BOLDUAN: That is true.

PEREIRA: That poor thing. That is good stuff.

CUOMO: How good is that.

PEREIRA: That was a good one.

CUOMO: Not only she has the presence of mind, you know, to help out in the situation, but to think what can I do for her? That's not her job. Amazing -- good stuff.

PEREIRA: All right. From that to the must-see moment -- are you ready? BOLDUAN: Yes please.

CUOMO: Oh yes.

PEREIRA: All right. Let the church sing, people at church choir preaching to the congregation to keep your business off Facebook. The video has gone viral. We'd like you to enjoy.

(MUSIC)

PEREIRA: When you put it to music, it doesn't sound like nagging.

BOLDUAN: Exactly.

PEREIRA: You're like yes, can I get an amen.

CUOMO: No, it's good stuff.

PEREIRA: Can I get a "don't friend"? "Don't friend me", "do not like", "do not forward", "do not share".

CUOMO: Did it go viral on Facebook?

PEREIRA: That's the best part.

CUOMO: You get it? Like don't (INAUDIBLE) this on Facebook but it goes on viral on Facebook.

BOLDUAN: Don't be on Facebook, it went viral on Facebook.

PEREIRA: OK, so clearly, I need another cup of coffee.

BOLDUAN: We will be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CUOMO: I know you want more, but that's it for today's edition of NEW DAY. Thanks for joining us. "CNN NEWSROOM" with Carol Costello begins right now. Carol -- special treat -- best looking guy on the set. There he is.

CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Handsomeness -- look at you.

BOLDUAN: Look at the cameras. Say hi.

COSTELLO: I thought you magically had a five-year-old child. I was going to say wow Kate, you're amazing.

BOLDUAN: I have been keeping a secret for a long time. OK. Say "Carol, take it away."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Take it away.

CUOMO: There it is.

COSTELLO: All right. Have a great day, guys.