Return to Transcripts main page
Man Fires at Police in Elementary School; Kidnapper Leaves Life Insurance Money to Kidnapping Victim; Dr. Oz Helps Save Accident Victim; Zuckerberg on Internet Access and Immigration;
Aired August 21, 2013 - 07:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: We have the unbelievable details ahead.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: And then, haven't we all been slaving away on some diet trying to shed a little bit of weight? Have we been completely wasting our time? A new study says diets do not work. That is upsetting a whole lot of people this morning. We're going to break it down with a top physician coming up.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: But first this morning we have breaking news overnight, Syrian opposition groups say the government is using chemical weapons. Explosions in rebel strongholds near Damascus have left hundreds dead and injured. And we have a warning. We're going to show you some video now, some of it is disturbing, but it is not the worst of what's out there, much of it online. A doctor at a field hospital outside Damascus says these are symptoms of the use of chemical agents. The Syrian government is denying the accusations at this time. CNN's Arwa Damon is live in Beirut. Arwa, thank you for joining us.
ARWA DAMON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: And you know, Chris, I spoke to one doctor who was saying that at his one facility they had 300 people die, and they ran out of atrophine within an hour, effectively left with nothing to treat these countless victims that kept on coming in. And you were talking about the images there, some of them so young, a lot of children died in Syria according to opposition activists.
This is not the first time there have been allegations of a chemical attack taking place with both sides pointing the finger of blame at one another. That is exactly why there currently is a U.N. monitoring team on the ground. Presumably they're going to have to ask for access to the site of today's attacks, perhaps shedding more light on what took place. But this most certainly is among the deadliest days in Syria and most certainly the deadliest alleged chemical weapons attack. Will that potentially provide a game changer? We'll just have to wait and see.
BOLDUAN: We'll wait and see, Arwa, thank you for that.
And a reminder when we're looking at these images, there have been more than 100,000 people who died since this tragedy started more than two years ago, something to remember when you see these images.
We want to move back home now -- tragedy averted at a grade school in Georgia. This morning a 20-year-old suspect, Michael Brandon Hill, is in custody. Police say he entered the school building heavily armed and then took hostages and opened fire on police. CNN's David Mattingly is following developments live in Decatur, Georgia, this morning. Good morning, David.
DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Kate. Hundreds of parents here counting their blessings after a gunman entered their children's school yesterday, fired shots, but ended up hurting no one.
MATTINGLY: Hundreds of kids, ages four to 10, running for safety, as gunfire erupts in their school. Inside 20-year-old Michael Brandon Hill, armed with what police say was an AK-47 and another of other weapons takes the office workers hostage and tells them to call a TV station with a chilling message.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've never experienced anything like this. He wanted us to start filming as police die.
MATTINGLY: The gunman started firing at police, maybe a half dozen times. Officers returned fire when one office worker convinced him to surrender.
ANTOINETTE TUFF: He wanted to go outside and start shooting again. And I just started telling him my life story and what was going on with me. I asked him to put all of his weapons down, and I told the police he was giving himself up.
MATTINGLY: Police searched the suspect's car for explosives. Children had to be escorted from buses away from the school for precaution before being reunited with their anxious parents. Now in police custody Hill faces charges including aggravated assault on a police officer, terroristic threats and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. Parents complain of a lack of communication. Most say they heard about it on the local news.
CELISA RAYSON, GRANDMOTHER: After they put the school on lockdown and secured the kids, the parents should have been called immediately right then and there.
MATTINGLY: And there are new fears about security from parents deeply shaken by what could have happened.
REVA FIGUEROA, MOTHER: We have a button to push to go in and you're supposed to show I.D., and it aggravates me.
MATTINGLY: Are you going to let your daughters go back to school?
FIGUEROA: I don't want to. I want to home school them.
MATTINGLY: Michael Brandon Hill was arrested once before, back in a nearby county. He was charged on making terroristic threats and terrorist acts and released on other than $1,000. Authorities there so far haven't told us the status of his case what happened after that, we're expected to find out why today and why he was a free man and able to come to the school and do what he did yesterday.
BOLDUAN: So many families hugging their kids a little tighter this morning. David, thank you so much.
We're going to talk more about this next hour and debate whether or not teachers should be armed in schools to keep children safe. It's something a lot of people are talking about. We'll have adebate on that.
CUOMO: We have a bizarre twist in the Hannah Anderson kidnapping case for you. The sister of suspect James DiMaggio wants DNA samples taken from Hannah and DNA the remains of her murdered eight-year-old brother to find out whether DiMaggio was actually their father. Zoraida Sambolin is tracking the latest for us. What's this about, Zoraida?
ZORAIDA SAMBOLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: There are lots of bizarre twists here. James DiMaggio left more than $110,000 in life insurance money to the grandmother of Hannah and Ethan Anderson. He made it known that he wanted the cash to go to the Anderson children as well. And now his family is asking for paternity tests to find out for sure if he was more than just their uncle Jim.
SAMBOLIN: Overnight a painful twist to an already tragic story, Laura DiMaggio, sister to Jim DiMaggio, the man accused of kidnapping 16- year-old Hannah Anderson and murdering her mother and younger brother, now requesting DNA samples from both Hannah and her brother. The reason, according to a family spokesman, she wants to know if DiMaggio was actually the children's biological father.
ANDREW SPANSWICK, FRIEND OF JIM DIMAGGIO: There's been a lot of rumors about whether or not Jim might be the father of either or both children. We find it strange he's left all this money without any explanation.
SAMBOLIN: That money is from a life insurance policy that named Hannah's paternal grandmother. It reportedly is worth around $110,000. Jim's sister was reportedly the beneficiary up until 2011.
SPANSWICK: He expected the grandmother to use the money to take care of the two children. He had stated specifically that he didn't want to give it to either parent because he didn't trust them.
SAMBOLIN: DiMaggio has been described by Anderson's father, Brett, as a platonic family friend to the Anderson family. Referred to as uncle Jim in an interview with NEW DAY while Hannah was still missing. Hannah's father was asked about the relationship.
BRETT ANDERSON, HANNAH ANDERSON'S FATHER: He is basically, became like part of our family but we were just very good friends. There was nothing ever to show any indication of this.
(END VIDEOTAPE) SAMBOLIN: If DiMaggio's life insurance policy is in order, his alleged crimes are not expected to impact the payouts, so that means Hannah's grandmother, Bernice, could receive a check within 45 days. CNN reached out to the Anderson family for comment about these latest twists in the case and we have not heard back yet.
BOLDUAN: Another thing for that family to deal with. Zoraida, thanks so much.
There is a lot of news developing at this hour, so let's get straight to Michaela for the latest.
PEREIRA: All right, fire crews reporting good progress battling the Beaver Creek fire near Sun Valley, Idaho. The fire has scorched 106,000 acres and is at 30 percent containment. Meantime, an out of control wildfire near California's Yosemite National Park is threatening thousands of structures. In all nearly 50 major fires are burning in 11 western states stretching fire-fighting resources to the limit.
Ft. Hood massacre suspect Nidal Hasan begins his defense today. It's unclear who he plans to call to the stand or whether he'll testify himself. The former army psychologist faces 13 murder counts and a possible death sentence for the 2009 shooting rampage at the Texas military base.
A court hearing today for a suspended Vanderbilt football player and four former players in connection with a disturbing campus rape case. "The Tennessee" reporting none of them will actually have to appear in court. Among them Chris Boyd, one of the team's top receivers. Investigators say he took part in a cover-up following the rape of an unconscious female friend. Four others were indicted for their alleged roles in that sexual assault.
The NSA's domestic surveillance network much larger than officials had been willing to disclose publicly, that's according to current and former NSA officials who spoke to "The Wall Street Journal." they tell the newspaper the agency has the capacity to access 75 percent of all U.S. internet communications, and that it is keeping the content of many e-mails sent between U.S. citizens.
You might recall the Navy vet who woke up in a California hospital speaking only Swedish with no memory of his American life? He is now in Sweden, trying to piece together his past. And 61-year-old Michael Boatwright was reunited Tuesday with a woman he once dated in the 1980s. Apparently mental health officials in California bought him a one-way ticket after he made it clear he wanted to live in Sweden.
A real scary moment caught on camera, a truck flying over a guardrail, it happened in Michigan. The 17-year-old who shot this video said she had seen the truck driver hit a sign in the middle of the median. She quickly took out her phone and started shooting. That's when she captured this terrifying accident. Doctors believe the driver had some medical episode before his vehicle jumped over the median. He is now in hospital with serious injuries. We're very pleased to say is he expected to make a full recovery. Imagine witnessing that and knowing there's nothing you can do.
BOLDUAN: There's nothing you can do about it. He must have been going so fast to be able to -- to get air that way.
CUOMO: With a trailer. That's loaded, behind him. A reminder, very interesting for all of us to see, driving and taking video at the same time, not the best idea for her.
BOLDUAN: I hope he makes a full recovery. Thanks, Michaela.
CUOMO: Boy, oh boy. That's on the news side. What do we have in terms of weather news? Let's get over to Indra Petersons with that.
INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Slowly getting a little bit better, starting to make friends here. In the southeast conditions are improving. Yet we still have a stationary front, you can see the moisture in the water vapor site going into the southeast.
However, the change in the forecast is that stationary front that's been lingering day after day, almost feels like week after week. We'll start to see that dissipate so still another day, one to two inches of rain still possible in the area and then it dissipates. What does that mean for the weekend? Still some afternoon thunderstorms you typically see, but either way huge improvement compared to what we've been seeing.
There is a new cold front we'll be watching today that means we're going to be looking at severe weather from Wisconsin, the upper peninsula and Michigan going down through Iowa. This is a mixed bag, good news as it makes its way through, rain into the Ohio valley tomorrow and eventually into the mid-Atlantic but it's the temperatures that are going to be amazing.
As this kicks through, notice we start with 80s today. Behind it each day we'll see more and more 70s, first through the Midwest and then through the Ohio valley and yes into the northeast so the weekend will set up literally gorgeous and perfect with a lot of 70s into the area. Love it.
BOLDUAN: Indra, thanks so much for that update. We'll check back in with you in a few.
Let's move on to Dr. Oz to the rescue it seems. The celebrity surgeon rushed to the aid of a woman struck by a New York City taxi Tuesday right outside the studio where his talk show is filmed. Dr. Oz is giving all the credit to another good Samaritan at the scene. CNN's Nischelle Turner is taking a look at that.
NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: He's being humble but this was definitely a group effort, and it's a story we like to bring you and there's some good news at end of this, Kate. This happened in middle of Manhattan, right in the heart of the day, and Dr. Oz says I was there but also says it was everyday people doing extraordinary things that really was the key. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
TURNER: It was like a scene out of a movie.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He gets impatient and accelerates, hits me, goes through me and the lady and jumps the curb.
TURNER: One staring a real life TV star and surgeon. A cab driver swerved on to this bus lane Manhattan sidewalk late Tuesday morning, hitting this bicycle delivery man and then a British tourist, severing her leg.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She screamed bloody murder.
TURNER: David Justino, a union plumber trained in emergency first aid removed his belt and used it as a tourniquet.
DAVID JUSTINO, SAVED TOURIST HIT BY CAB: I was down there holding it on one thing only, just stop the blood, hold on and I felt somebody nudge me and I was a little angry and I said "I'm waiting for a doctor." And I heard "I'm Dr. Oz." I went, "You are Dr. Oz. What should I do?" He said "You're doing it."
TURNER: Renowned surgeon and TV personality Dr. Mehmet Oz was one of the first responders on the scene, his office just up the block. Oz quickly assisted Justino.
DR. MEHMET OZ, HELPED SAVE TOURIST HIT BY CAB: There was a dog leash and belt, amazingly two mundane things you wouldn't think of and they saved her life.
TURNER: This comes on the heels of an incident in Salt Lake City pa past weekend, Dr. Oz came to the rescue of a 53-year-old runner who collapse during a charity 5k run after his lungs filled with fluid.
KEN ROOSA, RUNNER ASSISTED BY DR. OZ: The experience of having Dr. Oz watch over and care for me was incredible, came to my bedside, so caring. He saved my life.
TURNER: As Dr. Oz assisted in this week's midtown Manhattan rescue he says the kudos goes to Justino.
OZ: The real hero today is the plumber, who is an average day walking along the street and saves a life.
TURNER: A miracle on 49th street.
TURNER: And that British tourist is recovering this morning and of course we wish her the best from everyone here at NEW DAY. Initially police are calling this an accident but they are investigating. And there was another incident last year where Dr. Oz saved someone. He actually jumped off the stage to help a woman who fell ill at a speaking event in Sacramento. Can we give a big NEW DAY shout out to David Justino the plumber? Come on! BOLDUAN: Well done.
TURNER: Thank goodness he had the training.
BOLDUAN: An ordinary person in extraordinary circumstances, with a belt and a dog leash.
TURNER: I can't even imagine.
BOLDUAN: That's great, thanks Nischelle.
CUOMO: Coming up on NEW DAY, Australia's former prime minister calling on his countrymen to boycott the U.S. after an Australian college baseball player was killed here allegedly by teens who did it because they were bored. We're going to talk to him live.
BOLDUAN: Plus, still ahead, our broadcast exclusive, Chris's one on one interview with Facebook chief Mark Zuckerberg, his major announcement, after this.
CUOMO: All right, take a little sip of coffee, take a little breath and then isten to this because we have a NEW DAY broadcast exclusive for you.
What do you do when you've already made $17 billion connecting a billion people around the world? Well if you're Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, you double down, or more accurately, you quintuple down. Mr. Facebook on his next big idea, and if he didn't have enough to work on already, why he is also taking on immigration reform.
CUOMO: When you visit the Facebook campus you get the sense that anything is possible.
MARK ZUCKERBERG, CO-FOUNDER & CEO, FACEBOOK: We want the campus to feel like a little city or village.
CUOMO: And now Zuckerberg wants to make the entire world like the Facebook campus, in a way, by providing internet access to the entire world. The idea is called Internet.org, its target? The 5 billion people around the globe without access to the net.
ZUCKERBERG: I mean, here, we use things like Facebook to share news and catch up with our friends but there, they're going to use it to decide what kind of government they want, get access to health care for the first time ever, connect with family hundreds of miles away that they haven't seen in decades.
Getting access to the internet is a really big deal. I think we're going to be able to do it.
CUOMO: And the word "we" is the key word here because this isn't just about Facebook. Zuckerberg has done something extraordinary to achieve the extraordinary -- reached out to the biggest players in social media and mobile data, a.k.a. his competitors in part, to work together.
(on camera): How did those calls go?
ZUCKERBERG: It probably varies.
But I mean, in general, these are companies that we have deep relationships with and have worked with on a lot of things for a long time. So this kind of came out of a lot of the discussions that we had.
CUOMO (voice-over): So a team of the best in the business is coming together but for a task this size, uniting five times the global presence Facebook has already, it's going to take a lot more.
(on camera): What about the how? Like how do you do this? How developed is the plan?
ZUCKERBERG: You know, we have a plan, a rough plan for what we think we're going to need to do to pull it off, and, of course, the plan will evolve over time and we'll get better ideas. But, you know, if you look at the trends, I mean, data is becoming more available to people. Apps are getting more efficient to run. There are new business models to help more people get online.
CUOMO: It's also good for Facebook and these other companies, right, because mobile access to the internet is where your business lies, right?
ZUCKERBERG: You know, if we were just focused on making money, the first billion people that we've connected have way more money than the rest of the next $6 billion combined. It's not fair but it's the way that it is. And we just believe that everyone deserves to be connected and on the internet. So we are putting a lot of energy towards this.
CUOMO: People see you as somewhat of a comeback kid right now. Forget about the kid part, but it's a phrase. That, you know, you took some lumps and found a way to come back.
Are aware of that? Do you feel that in yourself that, like some people thought it wasn't going to happen, that you had had your run but look at me now? Do you get a sense of that?
ZUCKERBERG: Yes. You know, we've always just focused on building something great over the long-term. Right, so everyone at Facebook, I -- I just tell them, you know, come in and try to make the biggest impact that you can have and if we keep building a service that people love and that more and more people use every day which we seem to be doing pretty well at, then we're going to be fine over time and that's our focus in terms of building the company.
CUOMO: Hard to do when you hit the bumps in the road though, right? It's a great message when everything is OK.
ZUCKERBERG: Especially important when you hit the bumps.
CUOMO: So, we're not trying to connect the world to the internet. You have to run one of the biggest companies and when you want a distraction from that, you've decided to take on the easy task of immigration policy and the United States. Why are you wading into those waters?
ZUCKERBERG: When we were first talking about doing this, a lot of people actually were worried that it was going to be a problem for Facebook, right? And I just decided, I think that this is too important of an issue for the country. I mean , there are 11 million undocumented people who came here to work hard and contribute to the country.
And -- you know, it's -- I don't think it's quite as polarized as people always say.
CUOMO: What would be your advice to people in D.C. who are trying to balance these two almost diametrically opposed positions. One is immigration policy is about what you're talking about. Let's bring in our human potential. And the other one is, let's find a way to get them out.
How, if you had to enter that, this is your new team, you have to make these Democrats and Republicans come together, what advice do you think you'd have that's not going on down there now?
ZUCKERBERG: Well, it's -- I can't really tell anyone how to legislate. I mean, that's -- everyone understands this stuff way better than I do. So, you know, my goal in this is just to try to help support folks who care deeply about getting this done, on both sides, and hopefully we can make a difference.
CUOMO: In terms of the politics of it, you think it's just important enough where you're going to do it anyway.
ZUCKERBERG: Yes. I mean, I think there are some things in life that if you believe that it's such a big problem, you just stick your neck out and try to do it, right? And I mean, a lot of people think that it's going to be really challenging to connect 5 billion people, too. It is, but I think it's one of the biggest problems of my generation to get everyone in the world to have internet access.
And when, similarly, you know, 11 million undocumented people -- that's a lot of people whose lives we can improve and make the country stronger.
CUOMO: Good luck with everything.
ZUCKERBER: Thank you.
CUOMO: You're not even 30 yet, you're doing great. Good luck with everything.
CUOMO: It's easy to lose track of that. He turns 30 next May. Can you imagine that?
And also, you know, before people write off his politics like oh I know what he's about. His big high profile political alliances so far is Christie. He and his wife did a fundraiser for Governor Christie in New Jersey, and he's meeting with Senator Marco Rubio later today. Rubio's going to the Facebook campus. So you can see, he's very savvy about what he's doing here to try and pitch (ph) in (ph).
BOLDUAN: And I believe he donated quite a bit of money to New Jersey's education fund. I think I'm right about -- I think that's right.
Mark Zuckerberg does not do many interviews, as you point out. What surprised you when you sat down with him? Obviously there are big issues and big topics you wanted to hit on. Did anything surprise you?
CUOMO: Yes, that he seems to have a more defined sense of purpose about himself. I think he's always been known as a single focus -- I'm going to do Facebook and get a lot of heat and controversy, I don't care, I'm focused on this. You see a little bit of that but he does seem to be -- there's a maturity to what he wants to do with himself that I think we're going to see more and more of if he keeps going.
PEREIRA: To that end I know that you mentioned a little bit about the failed IPO. Did he have any sense of -- you mentioned that he sort of has a greater sense of his vision, but did he give any inkling that was a troubled part that bothered him still?
CUOMO: I think that he was very careful about that answer. He was careful about a lot of answers.
PEREIRA: Very measured it seems.
CUOMO: You see that in a lot of people who are high functioning thinkers, that they're very careful about what they say, but often when you deal with failure, and that IPO when it came out the perception of it was very bad you often ignore what happened there because you've had success, his stock price has popped and the one thing that he did say that we don't have in the interview, he was like look, when bad things happen you have to remember to refocus about what you're all about and you can't listen to the noise. You got to remember what got you there in the first place and he did that.
He also gave me a hoodie. I showed this earlier and keep showing it, trying to figure out what to do with it. This is one of the ones he likes to wear by his particular designer. It says inside, "making the world more open and connected," which is of course the Facebook --
BOLDUAN: We can frame it and hang it in the NEW DAY --
CUOMO: What should I do with this?
PEREIRA: We could put it up in the rafters, you know like they do with jerseys and the --
BOLDUAN: The first of many we hope, many a sweatshirt to come on.
CUOMO: We'll ask everyone for a garment when they come on.
PEREIRA: Be careful about that.
BOLDUAN: A new one.
CUOMO: Not what they have on at the time although that would be good for ratings.
BOLDUAN: Coming up next on NEW DAY a college baseball player from Australia is murdered while jogging in Oklahoma, allegedly by teens who say they were just bored. Now Australia's former deputy prime minister is telling his countrymen to boycott the U.S. We're going to talk to him live, ahead.
CUOMO: And the American Medical Association says fad diets don't work. They want dieters to make some serious lifestyle changes instead. No fast fix? Do we like that? Of course not, but we'll tell you why.
BOLDUAN: No kidding.