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James DiMaggio's Sister Speaks; Human Factor; Measles Outbreak; The Good Stuff; "Sweet Lorraine"

Aired August 28, 2013 - 08:30   ET

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ANNOUNCER: You're watching NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan, and Michaela Pereira.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: I knew you were going to let that one linger.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to NEW DAY. It's Wednesday, August 28th. Lots of happening today, so let's get right to Michaela Pereira for the five things you need to know for your NEW DAY.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Here we go, at number one, the White House Laying the groundwork for a possible military strike in Syria over the use of chemical weapons. It says those weapons are a threat to U.S. national security. Syria, for its part, says it will be ready to defend itself.

President Obama and former presidents, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, set to speak at the Lincoln Memorial marking the 50th anniversary of the march on Washington and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s historic "I have a dream" speech.

California firefighters may have turned the corner on the wildfire in and around Yosemite National Park. It is still growing, but it is at 20 percent containment and not encroaching on tourist areas.

San Diego officials meeting today to talk about a new mayor. The city council might schedule an election to pick a replacement for Bob Filner. He resigned over an ongoing sexual misconduct scandal. His last day will be Friday.

And a monster rocket at number five, the biggest one in the nation blasting off in just a few hours' time from California. It will thrust a top secret spy satellite into orbit.

You know, we always update those five things to know. So, be sure to go to NEWDAYCNN.com for the very latest -- guys.

BOLDUAN: Let's move to a CNN exclusive now. The sister of suspected murderer, and abductor, James Dimaggio, speaking out for the very first time. Lora Dimaggio is defending her brother saying he thought of 16-year-old Hannah Anderson as a daughter. What she said, though, is causing outrage this morning and also raising new questions. CNN's Miguel Marquez is in Los Angeles with much more. Good morning, Miguel.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning there. This is the woman who had previously wanted the DNA from the Anderson Family to compare to her brother's. She has backed off of that claim. She's making a bunch of others.

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MARQUEZ (voice-over): In a contentious interview --

LORA DIMAGGIO, JAMES DIMAGGIO'S SISTER: How do you know that he did it would be my question for you.

MARQUEZ: Speaking exclusively to CNN's Piers Morgan, the sister of James DiMaggio, the man killed in a shootout with the FBI in the Idaho wilderness after kidnapping Hannah Anderson. And, investigators say, he tortured and murdered her mother, Christina, and eight-year-old brother, Ethan, before setting fire to his own house.

DIMAGGIO: I would like to remind you that at this point my brother is still a suspect. He is not a killer. He is accused. And, again, it is alleged.

MARQUEZ: Lora DiMaggio holds out the possibility her 40-year-old brother is a victim, casting blame on 16-year-old Hannah Anderson.

DIMAGGIO: The Hannah Anderson that I saw a few nights ago on the TV is certainly not the girl that stayed in my home three weeks prior to them disappearing.

PIERS MORGAN, ANCHOR, CNN'S "PIERS MORGAN LIVE": What do you mean? What do you mean?

DIMAGGIO: I remember very vividly telling my brother, she's - she's trouble.

MARQUEZ: Last week, Hannah Anderson broke her silence in an interview on NBC where she insisted it was all James DiMaggio's doing.

HANNAH ANDERSON: He was picking me up from cheer camp and he didn't know the address or what - like where I was, so I had to tell him the address and tell him that I was going to be in the gym and not in front of the school, just so he knew where to come get me.

MARQUEZ: Lora DiMaggio, while offering no evidence, disputes that.

DIMAGGIO: In my heart of hearts, I think that Hannah perhaps got herself into a situation that she couldn't get herself out of and I do believe that my brother gave his life to protect her.

MARQUEZ: Finally, DiMaggio says she wants to see more evidence from investigators. Evidence not likely to come as the investigation is closed.

(END VIDEOTAPE) MARQUEZ: Yes, investigators saying that because there is no prosecution, there will no more investigating and there won't be any big reports coming. The family not releasing a news statement but reiterating an old statement saying that they will not give DNA evidence. There's no indication that there's any relation between Mr. DiMaggio and any of the Anderson children. And they wish Ms. DiMaggio well in her healing process.

Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Miguel, thank you very much.

For more on that interview with James DiMaggio's sister, let's bring in psychotherapist Dr. Robi Ludwig. Doc, it's great to have you here.

DR. ROBI LUDWIG, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: It's great to be here.

CUOMO: There's an obvious question. What is going on with this woman who did the interview? She doesn't seem to have new information about the investigation. Seems to be somewhat sensational. But how do you attribute - to what do you attribute her reactions?

LUDWIG: Well, clearly, she's trying to heal and protect her brother. In some ways she's trying to save her brother, save his image. She knows this man, James, to be very different than all of us, the public, knows him. We just know him from a sliver of time. But what was so striking to me was how she idealized her brother. It's more than denial, that this woman can't even consider the idea that he was anything other than a positive, stand up, great guy.

CUOMO: And I get why she may want to do that. But ordinarily, in these circumstances, you distance yourself, even from family, when they have been accused, let alone the authorities believe performed horrible acts. Why not here?

LUDWIG: Well, I think Lora said it herself, that she -- she's honoring her mother's wishes. That she and her brother made a promise to each other to protect one another. And she is protecting him. But more than that, I mean, it sounds like her brother was almost the surrogate idealized father that she never had. And she feels it's really her duty to set the record straight and this is her belief system.

CUOMO: Now, she feeds some ugly speculation about Hannah Anderson. I want to kind of side step that because there's no basis for it, other than her own opinion. But, psychologically, what do you see when you look into the father who raised them and what happened to him and the path that the son, Jim DiMaggio, ultimately chose?

LUDWIG: Well, I think in part that is why the sister attacked Hannah, because she's the 16-year-old girl and, of course, we know the father's downfall was falling in love with a 16-year-old girl that he ultimately committed suicide. So she may see 16-year-old girls as dangerous. Seductive, dangerous, leading to both her father and her brother's downfall and demise. So I bet that one gets superimposed onto the other. But it is really interesting because James had this father who was clearly a problematic guy. He tried to be different. It sounds like he tried to be the good brother, the good friend, the perfect person, but never dealt with the trauma. As the sister said, she's talked about it. He never did. He kept silent. So, that trauma was living underneath his desire to be different. But I think, ultimately, he felt this was the only way he could be. His father's fate was his fate and he couldn't stop himself from that. There are too many parallels.

CUOMO: Is this an experience that we chalk up to, if you don't learn from the past, you are doomed to repeat it?

LUDWIG: It certainly makes you more vulnerable. But if someone is traumatized, you can't just avoid it and say, don't think about it, move on. You have to incorporate what it means to your life right now because some of the most powerful decisions we make, any of us make, comes from an unconscious place. The place that we're not aware of, rather than we're aware of.

CUOMO: I think we were seeing some of that last night.

LUDWIG: Yes.

CUOMO: Thank you very much, doctor, for taking us through it.

LUDWIG: Thank you.

CUOMO: Appreciate it.

Kate.

BOLDUAN: All right, thanks so much, Chris.

Well, a lot of us, we play music in our heads, but it does take a very special talent to share those tunes with an audience. In this morning's "Human Factor," a young man who wouldn't let hearing loss stop the music. Here's Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Deejay Robbie Wilde, he lives in a world of rhythm and base. He just can't hear it. Severe ear infections as a child left Wilde completely deaf in his right ear and 80 percent deaf in his left.

ROBBIE WILDE, "THAT DEAF DJ": My mom was crying, you know, when the doctor said it. Me being the one with, you know, the one with the hearing loss, you know, I went up to my mom and I'm like, mom, it's OK. I'm going to be all right. You know, I promise you. Like, you'll see, I'll be fine.

GUPTA: Although hearing is the most important sense in a deejay's life, Wilde was still determined to make it. He went to deejay school to learn the art of turntablelism and he relies on a computer to see the music. Red is a kick from the bass. Blue, that's a sneer. Greens are vocals. WILDE: You know, I don't want you to see me as a deaf deejay or a deaf kid trying to deejay. I want you to see me as a great deejay that happens to be deaf, you know?

GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN reporting.

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BOLDUAN: And we have the man right here.

GUPTA: He's an amazing guy. He lost his hearing when he was seven years old and then he decided to pick this career. Something else he taught me. You may not know this. Applause in American sign language. See, now you know.

BOLDUAN: Now you know. There are a lot of people always doing that to you.

GUPTA: They don't do it nearly enough (ph).

BOLDUAN: (INAUDIBLE) more and more. Stay right there, Sanjay, we've got a lot - a lot more coming up with Sanjay on NEW DAY.

A measles outbreak linked to a Texas mega church. Nearly two dozen people have been stricken so far. Sanjay will tell us what's going on with that.

CUOMO Plus, a 96-year-old's touching tribute to his late wife that has sent the world running for a box of tissues. It's also made them running to get this little gift that he developed just for her. It's "The Good Stuff" just ahead.

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PEREIRA: Welcome back to NEW DAY. A measles outbreak tied to a Texas mega church. At least 21 people have been infected so far. Many of them are members of that church. A spokesperson denies any anti- vaccination teachings, but statements from the pastor suggest otherwise. Dr. Sanjay Gupta is back with us to talk about this.

We haven't heard about a measles outbreak for so long since the vaccine was implemented, what, years ago?

GUPTA: Yes.

PEREIRA: How serious is it?

GUPTA: It's serious and it's very contagious. I mean this is a disease that if -- if you had a group of children who are not immunized and they come in contact with it, they're virtually guaranteed to get it. So this is a very contagious thing. It spreads through the air. It can cause all sorts of problems in the lungs, but also things like encephalitis, which is swelling of the brain. About one to two children out of 1,000 that get it will die from it. So it can be -- it can cause scarring. There's all sorts of things with this. And we also know that in pockets of people that have not been vaccinated, they are particularly susceptible. That's probably what happened here. Sixteen of the 21 we know for sure did not get the vaccine. And the other five we're just not sure about. But this is sort of proof of evidence. We saw this in the late '80s. You had pockets of people not getting vaccinated. The numbers went up. As soon as the vaccination programs were implemented again, they went down. So it's pretty concrete evidence.

CUOMO: Any danger with the vaccine? Any good reason not to take it?

GUPTA: I think there is no good reason not to get this vaccine. And I think that needs to be said like that, by the way, because, you know, look, as a doctor and a dad, I got my kids vaccinated on time, on the regular schedule and, you know, not delaying it and I'm not worried about this causing some of the problems that people have been worried about with regard to autism, for example. I think the science just isn't there on that.

And also not delaying the vaccines. A lot of people say, you know, I just spread them out over time. That doesn't make any sense and it actually put your child, potentially other children, at danger during that unvaccinated period.

BOLDUAN: So when you see these stories - and this isn't the first time that we've heard this - is there -- there was kind of a wave of people who were kind of -- had an aversion of vaccines because of that supposed link to autism, which had been debunked, right?

GUPTA: Late '90s there was a study, that one small study, had a lot of leaps of science in there and it was subsequently debunked.

BOLDUAN: So, it's most basic. I mean I think you've kind of hit on it, though. What do people need to know about measles when they see this story?

GUPTA: Well, I think that they -- they need to know that we have a great vaccine. I mean, you know, for all the triumphs in modern medicine, one of the greatest ones is being able to prevent a lot of these diseases through vaccines. And we know that they work, again, when you have the vaccination programs. But we also know that there's been a lot of -- while we don't have a great reason as to what causes autism, that would probably lay a lot of these issues to rest, we do have a pretty good idea of what doesn't cause autism. And I think that, again, just needs to be said. It's not the vaccines, it's not the amounts of vaccines, it's not components in the vaccines. So we should still do that research. But in the meantime, get your kids vaccinated.

BOLDUAN: And it's so contagious it becomes a public health risk right away.

GUPTA: Not only to your kids, but to other kids around your kids as well.

BOLDUAN: All right, Sanjay, thank you. GUPTA: You got it.

PEREIRA: Don't forget to tune in to "Sanjay Gupta MD." It airs weekends right here on CNN, Saturday at 4:30 Eastern and Sundays at 7:30 Eastern.

Thank you, Dr. Sanjay.

SANJAY: Thank you.

CUOMO: Sanjay, stay for "The Good Stuff."

It's time, everybody. Are you ready? In today's edition, with all the coverage of Miley Cyrus and the VMAs recently, we want to give you proof that sex isn't the only thing that sells. Love does, too. Take a look.

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CUOMO (voice-over): When 96-year-old Fred Stobaugh lost his wife of almost 73 years, Lorraine, recently, there was only one thing that kept him going.

FRED STOBAUGH, WROTE TRIBUTE SONG TO WIFE THAT WENT VIRAL: It was about six weeks after she passed away and just sat here kind of, you know, worked -- humming a little bit like that - and that just finally came to me.

CUOMO: What came to Fred, who's not a musician by the way, was a simple, but poignant lyric.

STOBAUGH: Sweet Lorraine, I called it, wish we could do the good times all over again.

CUOMO: Fred wanted to share Lorraine's story, so he answered an ad for a song writing contest in a local paper. They were looking for video submissions, but Fred is old school and wrote it out with a letter about his lost love.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was a large Manila envelope and started to read the lyrics and I was so touched by the song and without even meeting Fred, we decided we're going to do something.

CUOMO: With Fred's permission, musician Jacob Colgan set the words to music. In a way, allowing Fred's Lorraine to live on.

JACOB COLGAN, SONGWRITER: I'm hoping you like it.

STOBAUGH: Yes.

COLGAN: Like I said, it's not done yet. But I want to let you hear it ok.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sweet Lorraine I wish we could do all the good times over again oh sweet Lorraine --

STOBAUGH: It was wonderful.

COLGAN: Good.

STOBAUGH: Just wonderful.

COLGAN: Good. I'm glad you like it.

STOBAUGH: It's just wonderful.

It's been a great life, if I could do it over again, I would do it.

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CUOMO: 96 years old. Still just as in love today as ever. And guess what, Fred has a new life now as a star. "Oh, Sweet Lorraine" is number one on the iTunes single songwriter chart beating out the likes of Ed Sheran and the Lumineres list.

So people, obviously, feel and I'm sure it's going to get even more now after we did this. But good message to have.

PEREIRA: What a beautiful song, too.

CUOMO: Right what a tribute to Lorraine.

PEREIRA: He's a lyricist.

BOLDUAN: It was beautiful.

GUPTA: Yes it's funny people -- when you lose a loved one -- how you react in that situation and what happens to your own health. I mean obviously, he did something very different.

BOLDUAN: Yes.

GUPTA: I'm little choked up.

BOLDUAN: Difficult too as a doctor. That means it's really good stuff today. Thank you.

GUPTA: Thank you.

BOLDUAN: All right coming up next on NEW DAY he works, I don't even know how to make a turn to this. But worked stripper stage on "Magic Mike" and he plays a buff werewolf on "True Blood" but actor Joe Manganiello wants people to know he is more than a hot body. He is being honored for the NEW DAY award of the day award.

PEREIRA: I can't wait for that one.

CUOMO: And stop taking the shirt off.

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CUOMO: I'm texting my wife that I love because of the -- well because I love her but also because of the Lorraine thing. PEREIRA: You're a romantic.

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PEREIRA: And welcome back to NEW DAY.

Let's take a quick look at the headlines right now. For you all signs right now point to some sort of U.S. military response to Syria's suspected chemical attack on its people and it could be imminent. Iran, meanwhile, saying a U.S. strike would be disastrous for the region.

California's massive rim fire has burned through more than 184,000 acres and is now threatening San Francisco's water supply. That fire is closing in on the Hetch Hetchy reservoir which provides water to millions across the San Francisco bay area.

"Boston" magazine publishing more police photos of the takedown of suspected "Boston marathon bombing Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Some show a bloodied Tsarnaev, some show the edge of the boat being treated for a gunshot wounds to the face.

And a bit of a Hollywood shocker: sources telling "People" magazine that Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones are taking time apart. The couple has been married for 13 years and apparently are not officially splitting. Those are your headlines at this hour.

BOLDUAN: All right, thanks so much, Michaela.

It's time for the NEW DAY award of the day. But before we get there let's go to the couch.

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BOLDUAN: A lot of movement.

CUOMO: Oh Duran Duran. "Hungry Like the Wolf". That's what John Berman is down in Washington D.C., with his the NEW DAY "Award of the Day Award." I hope you don't get confused by the -- with the guy that you're honoring today.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That is a real problem and I should say that walk to the couch that you guys do is very dramatic. And I was with you in spirit. It was something to see.

Now I don't know if you guys are fans of "True Blood" on HBO. That's the show about really hot people in Louisiana who turned out to be vampires and werewolves.

PEREIRA: Oh yes.

BERMAN: One of the stars of the show is Joe Manganiello he plays the hot werewolf. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a long, strange story. I'll tell you on the way.

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BERMAN: Clearly, that guy is very talented there. A very talented trained actor. He has a BFA from Carnegie Melon. Get it out because I have some good jokes coming up. Are you done, all right, all right. Joe Manganiello is a classically trained actor. He has a BFA from Carnegie Melon. And in an interview with "The New York Post" out today Manganiello says while he likes "True Blood" he wants more. He says this, he says, "Running shirtless in the woods pays the bills, but it's only a sliver of what I do." He continues, "Sometimes all I'm being asked to do is rip my shirt off and growl."

So, Joe Manganiello you win the "Man, do I know how you feel award." There is nothing worse than constantly being asked to rip your shirt off and growl. I'm just totally sick of it. Enough already. Actually, just once I want to be asked to rip my shirt off and growl. That would be a moral victory here.

BOLDUAN: I want you to know, I am not laughing. The other two are.

PEREIRA: Oh I'm laughing.

BERMAN: No, no you're laughing at what. That concept to you is laughable? No, no.

CUOMO: No, we're laughing with you and you'll get your chance, my friend. Because when Fabio makes his way to NEW DAY to complete the joke we started that first week you should have a pose off with him.

BERMAN: There's a whole course that Fabio teaches on ripping your shirt off and growling. I should note that Joe Manganiello is sets to star in a production of "A Streetcar Named Desire". So he will get to show his acting out there, although, for fans of that show, that dramatic, wonderful show. There's a lot of growling there in tight T- shirts. He'll kind of get to combine all his talents into one.

BOLDUAN: It's the culmination of his career then.

PEREIRA: Growling and acting.

Are you coming back to us some time soon?

BERMAN: At this point, I'm not so sure.

BOLDUAN: Now you don't want to come back, great.

PEREIRA: We finally did it.

BOLDUAN: We'll be right back. We'll see you later, John.

BERMAN: All right. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CUOMO: Little in house breaking news for you. John Berman hosting "THE LEAD" today for Jake Tapper's show -- we're all kind of, you know, brothers and sisters here at CNN. Heard he's doing it shirtless in response to audience feedback based on the last segment.

PEREIRA: That will be something to tune in for, wouldn't it?

BOLDUAN: Viewers want, John Berman gives it to them.

CUOMO: That's exactly right.

All of you should tweet and Facebook that. In fact, leading the charge for Mr. Berman to do it shirtless is one of our fellow CNN anchors. A woman you may know by Carol Costello has been all over social media.

BOLDUAN: I'm sorry Carol, he did it.

CUOMO: She is starting a grassroots campaign. I'm against it. I see it as objectification -- but I'm just wondering.

PEREIRA: You didn't see any of this coming, did you, Carol?

CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: No, I didn't but at least he's not going to do it pantless. Have a great day. See, I got you, Chris Cuomo.

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BOLDUAN: On that note, we'll see you later, Carol.

COSTELLO: Have a great day. "NEWSROOM" starts now.