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Classified Chemical Attack Videos Released; Tokyo to Host 2020 Summer Olympic Games; Bleacher Report; Utah Floods; Syria Debate; James Gandolfini's Last Movie; Kerry: Syria Strike Support Growing

Aired September 8, 2013 - 06:00   ET

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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Lawmakers return to Capitol Hill tomorrow. And while their agenda is clear, their votes are anything but.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: But what we do know is what the Obama administration is showing members of Congress to make their case for a strike on Syria. We have the shocking images that have just been released.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got you here. We said we would.

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PAUL: And a heart-warming story of American soldiers and the dogs they promised not to leave behind.

Well, good morning to you! Rise and shine. Early a Sunday, huh?

BLACKWELL: Very early.

PAUL: We're used to it.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

PAUL: I'm surprised they're all up and at'em, but we're glad to have you company. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. 6:00 a.m. here on the East Coast. This is NEW DAY SUNDAY.

PAUL: In a little more than 24 hours, you know, Congress will be back in Washington to work after a month-long break. And what a first task they have, deciding whether or not to attack the Syrian regime.

BLACKWELL: And now we have a chance to see the evidence that they're seeing. And we want to warn you that it is disturbing from start to finish. It purportedly shows dozens of people dying or dead after being gassed with a deadly nerve agent.

PAUL: Yes, we just wanted to give you that forewarning so you may want to kind of herd kids out of the room for this. BLACKWELL: Yes, out of the room.

PAUL: But CNN's Jake Tapper was the first to obtain these 13 videos the Obama administration, we understand, has shown to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

BLACKWELL: You know some show entire rooms full of corpses. You see here a lot of them are young children. Others show people convulsing on the floor, the shaking, twitching uncontrollably.

PAUL: Others show the desperate attempts to resuscitate the lifeless bodies of young children. I know this is so hard to watch. On Thursday, senators were told there were multiple reasons that the clips are authentic, that they were shot from multiple angles. The outdoor footage, apparently, matched overhead imagery, and they were corroborated by survivors.

BLACKWELL: CNN's Barbara Starr is at the Pentagon.

Barbara, the video may be strong evidence of a sarin gas attack. That's what the U.S. government is saying. Is it still or has it yet proven that the Syrian regime carried out this attack?

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Well, good morning, Victor and Christi.

I think the administration feels very strongly that the Syrian regime is responsible, even if they do not yet have that final piece of intelligence that Bashar al Assad himself ordered it. They're not - they're going to look for that, we understand. They may have it. We don't know. But at this point, the overwhelming sense of the administration is the regime is held responsible, even if it was some element of the regime forces that ordered it, if Bashar al Assad didn't know about it until afterwards, he is responsible, that the regime is the only element in Syria that could have carried this out.

PAUL: Barbara, I know that Congress is going to be briefed tomorrow. What do we expect is going to happen out of that?

STARR: Well, I think what you're going to hear them talk about, from the administration's point of view, is more about the videos, showing them what's in them. Perhaps more about the intelligence, about what the regime did, what the U.S. believes the regime did and more about the military case, the case for military action, the view on the part of the administration that a military response is warranted, how the Syrians are dispersing their forces, perhaps, and how the U.S. military is going to respond to that if President Obama carries through on his view that military action is warranted.

PAUL: All right, what else does Congress and the administration have planned this week? Because this is not going to go away any time soon and Congress is so divided.

STARR: Well, that's right, and the full court press that only Washington can manage is now on the full court political press. Look for more briefings, more phone calls from administration officials, and more meetings. And, of course, President Obama will take a very public role in this. It's been announced from the White House he will do a number of network interviews. And one coming up with our own Wolf Blitzer on Monday.

PAUL: Barbara, is all the intelligence in on this or is that something that is still in progress?

STARR: Well, I think the accurate answer would be, we, in the press, don't know, of course. We don't have access to all of the intelligence. Our sources are telling us, however, that they do feel they have a good deal of intelligence on the attack itself by the regime, as they see it. And, of course, these videos go right to that.

But the intelligence collection they're doing right now really focuses to some large extent satellites overhead, trying to collect intelligence on how the regime forces are moving around, how Assad is dispersing his units, so that they can keep targeting them. If a U.S. military action is coming, they want the latest intelligence about where those Syrian forces may be.

BLACKWELL: All right, Barbara Starr reporting live from the Pentagon for us. Thank you.

PAUL: Meanwhile, President Obama's intense campaign for this strike on Syria goes into overdrive this week, as she was kind of alluding to. Tomorrow he's talking with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. You can see that interview in "The Situation Room." It's at 6:00 Eastern. And more CNN coverage Tuesday night when the president addresses the nation regarding Syria.

BLACKWELL: Senator John McCain is sending a strong warning to President Obama about intervention in Syria. During a radio interview with KYFI Thursday morning, McCain said that the president bungled the handling of the Syrian crisis and that deploying U.S. troops would have huge political consequences. Listen.

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SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA (voice-over): No one wants American boots on the ground, nor will there be American boots on the ground because there would be an impeachment of the president if they did that.

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BLACKWELL: Now, while many members of the Senate and the House are still undecided, Senator McCain has endorsed the president's plan for military strikes.

PAUL: Meanwhile, across the nation, thousands of people are making scenes with their voices as Congress weighs military action in Syria there. First of all in San Francisco, activists held signs and banners urging the U.S. not to engage in war, but rather peace. Then in Washington, protesters took their message directly to the White House, assembling before the gates and calling for the U.S. to stand down on any military action. And moving to New York, hundreds of antiwar demonstrators gathered in Union Square holding signs and chanting, quote, "no war in Syria."

BLACKWELL: So, we're taking you across the country. Here's the question, how is the rest of the world reacting to these horrific, new images?

PAUL: Yes. Senior international correspondent Nic Robertson is in Beirut, Lebanon, with more. And again, please just let me give you that forewarning there that the videos you're about to see are really disturbing.

Nic, what do you know?

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Maybe not a smoking gun linking Bashar al Assad directly to the use of this nerve agent, but certainly an emotional trigger for anyone watching it. Hard to walk away from those videos and not be emotionally affected. Many of these videos already available on the Internet, on YouTube. But the way that these have been cut down and edited and shown to these lawmakers, very clearly it shows them -- the eyes being opened to show how the pupils are contracted, an effective nerve agent, the vomiting, the people dying in the hospitals there. Very emotional and hard to watch.

But perhaps for some in Europe, the Middle East, they may look at these videos and say, look, we've seen this already. We didn't need to see a cut-down, edited version. We've seen this on the Internet. Where is the stronger evidence that the United States has linking Assad to these attacks and providing more information that is already publicly available? So, a very powerful video. An emotional trigger. Not a smoking gun. But what effect will it have internationally? Maybe not as much as it will domestically in the United States.

Nic Robertson, CNN, Beirut, Lebanon.

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BLACKWELL: Our thanks to Nic Robertson, our senior international correspondent in Beirut for us.

PAUL: Now, Secretary of State John Kerry is meeting with representatives of the Arab League in Paris today.

BLACKWELL: Afterwards, he takes his campaign for a military strike on Syria to London, which has rejected any military role for the U.K.. CNN's Elise Labott now in Paris.

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ELISE LABOTT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Secretary of State Kerry had more luck than President Obama in building international support for action against Syria. After four hours of meeting with all 28 foreign ministers from the European Union in Lithuania, the EU issued a unanimous statement calling for strong and clear international action against the Assad regime, but they want to see that report from the U.N. inspectors on that August 21st chemical attack first. France was the only ally who said it would take part in a coalition. French President Francois Hollande wanted more European support, and European said, if you want our support, we have to have U.N. involvement. It's important to European publics (ph).

So this is the kind of horse trading that's going on in European capitals. We have our politics in Washington and they have theirs.

The U.S. has balked at going to the United Nations because it says Russia is blocking any movement in the U.N. Security Council and standing by Syria. Secretary Kerry said even so, the world has a responsibility to act. Let's take a listen.

JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: When you look at those videos of those children heaving for breath, unable to move, spasming, their lives stolen from them or their parents' lives stolen from them by gas in the middle of the night when they should have been sleeping comfortably at home in their beds. Instead, they're wiped out by a man who has no conscience about what he does to his own people. Are we supposed to walk away from that?

LABOTT: Now, on Sunday, Secretary Kerry will be meeting here with Arab foreign ministers. The Arab League has been somewhat more supportive in calling for international action and condemning the Assad regime, but the U.S. is looking for much stronger shows of public support.

Elise Labott, CNN, Paris.

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PAUL: All right, and thank you so much, Elise. We appreciate it.

BLACKWELL: Still to come on NEW DAY, Tokyo is up on its feet and ready to celebrate. We'll tell you how the country's put aside Fukushima fears to become an Olympic city.

PAUL: Plus, here's another one to make you smile. A special delivery from Afghanistan. A loyal dog and her puppies reunited with a group of soldiers who promised not to leave them behind.

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JACQUES ROGGE, PRESIDENT, INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE: The International Olympic Committee has the honor of announcing that the games of the 32nd Olympiad in 2020 are awarded to the city of -- Tokyo!

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PAUL: I love to see their reaction, don't you? That's in Buenos Aires yesterday, where obviously it was announced Tokyo, Japan, hosting the 2020 summer Olympic games, beating out Istanbul and Madrid, by the way. Congratulations to them. BLACKWELL: Big celebration there. That was the Japanese delegation that traveled to Buenos Aires. But check this out.

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ROGGE: Tokyo!

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BLACKWELL: An even bigger celebration. And this is a crowd that gathered to watch the announcement at 5:20 in the morning. This is from Tokyo.

PAUL: Wow, they were ready, too! The confetti falling. Paula Hancocks has more on the city's big win.

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JACQUES ROGGE, PRESIDENT, INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE: Tokyo!

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): There were tears and there was gold tinsel, not bad for 5:20 on a Sunday morning. Tokyo was the favorite, and it did not disappoint. Supporters were delighted the Olympic games will return to the city in 2020.

This boy shouts, "I'm so happy!" His friend adds, "I knew we would win." This girl says, "many people understand the charm of Tokyo. It's well-known. But this will make Tokyo even more popular."

Tokyo billed itself as a safe pair of hands in uncertain times. Clearly what the Olympic Committee wanted this time around. And it doesn't hurt when your prime minister is willing to leave the G-20 meeting early to help wave the flag.

SHINZO ABE, JAPANESE PRIME MINISTER (through translator): The Olympic movement in Japan will be expanded to the rest of the world. They expected that role to be played by Japan. That's why they supported us. Safe and secure games to be staged by us.

HANCOCKS: Even concerns over radiation spikes and fresh toxic water leaks at Fukushima nuclear power plant could not derail this bid.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) countries people. I think Tokyo and Japan's very dangerous. But I'm Japanese, so I just believe.

HANCOCKS (on camera): It is a big win for Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, as his strong personal involvement has paid off. Abe insists that Tokyo is safe, and the Olympic Committee believes him. Paula Hancocks, CNN, Tokyo.

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BLACKWELL: All right, great for Japan.

You know, last night I went home and I was planning to just have a quiet night at home.

PAUL: Yes.

BLACKWELL: I walk in and there's a screaming person in my living room. A Michigan fan watching the game.

PAUL: Oh, no, don't tell me.

BLACKWELL: That was the end of the quiet evening.

PAUL: Notre Dame and Michigan, by the way. And they set an all- time football record, American football attendance record. Joe Carter here with the morning's "Bleacher Report."

I'm an Ohio State fan, so I would have been screaming in your apartment too for other reasons.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

PAUL: But go ahead, Joe.

JOE CARTER, BLEACHER REPORT: Seven months we've been waiting for college football to return and you could tell people were long awaiting the great return of college football by the numbers we saw last night in this game between Notre Dame and Michigan.

PAUL: It's amazing.

CARTER: Absolutely incredible. More than 115,000 fans watched these two schools play last night. And by comparison, the Super Bowl attendance record, 105,000 fans. Just look at the video. I mean, look at all of those people. But I bet when Ohio State comes to Michigan at the end of November --

PAUL: Go, Bucs!

CARTER: This new attendance record will be broken, I assure you that, because both of those teams, at that point, will probably be top 10 teams. But talking about how good Michigan looked like tonight (ph). You know, quarterback Devin Gardner, the guy scored five touchdowns, he threw four, ran one. Notre Dame tried to make it close at the end, but Michigan pulled away. They won 41-30. The Wolverines now have beaten Notre Dame at home four straight times.

Now, Georgia quarterback Aaron Murray, the guy's been known to choke in big games over the last three years, but against number six South Carolina, he finally did not. Murray passed for over 300 yards. He threw four touchdown passes. And Georgia snaps a three-year losing streak against the Gamecocks with a 41-30 win. This also means, I know it's early, but this also means that Georgia takes early control of the S.E.C. East.

Let's talk a little tennis. The men's final is set at the U.S. Open. Two familiar faces going at it again. Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal will meet in the finals for the third time in the last four years. Now that finals will be on Monday. Later today, the women's final, that's going to be Serena Williams versus Victoria Azarenka. Now if Serena wins today, she will get the biggest single-day payout in tennis history, $3.6 million.

Now, this is a good one. Trending this morning on bleacherreport.com, rapper Eminem made a strange, and I mean strange, appearance in the press box during halftime of last night's Notre Dame/Michigan game. I mean it was so weird. The Detroit native was there actually to promote a single and he later explained his strange behavior as that he gets a little freaked out by live television, guys. But we can't show you the video in its entirety. I encourage those at home to go to bleacherreport.com and watch it because it is definitely worth the visit. Very strange.

BLACKWELL: I watched this last night and I was asking myself, is this a put-on? I mean, is it a performance?

PAUL: Was he acting?

BLACKWELL: Yes.

CARTER: Not sure. And Kirk Herbstreit, basically the analyst -

BLACKWELL: Yes.

CARTER: Was sitting there going -- like, he was so awkward during the whole thing. I felt so bad for him. He didn't know what to say or how to handle the situation here.

PAUL: That's a tough - that's a tough one to be in.

BLACKWELL: They wrapped it up quickly, though.

PAUL: Yes.

Well, we're talking about it, so it worked, nonetheless.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

PAUL: Joe Carter, thank you so much.

CARTER: You bet, guys.

PAUL: So imagine this, stranded on an Alaskan volcano. That's exactly what happened to three researchers on Wednesday. For two days they fought for their lives in freezing temperatures.

BLACKWELL: Up next, how the trio relied on each other in order to survive.

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BLACKWELL: Twenty-three minutes after the hour. Welcome to your NEW DAY.

Alaska's Mount Mageik volcano has not erupted in several thousand years, but that doesn't mean it's not a dangerous place to visit. PAUL: Yes, no kidding.

BLACKWELL: Three researchers had to be rescued Friday after their helicopter was iced over. Here's what happened. Bad weather made it difficult for those rescuers to reach the group for two days. They were forced to survive in 28-degree weather. Can you imagine? And the group says they stayed inside the helicopter and slept in sleeping bags to stay warm. Good news here, they were rescued unharmed.

PAUL: Good for them.

Well, look at this. Raging waters in Utah. That's a neighborhood you're looking at there, even though I know it looks like a river, doesn't it? Heavy rains and floodwaters forced residents near Highland, Utah, specifically to evacuate their homes yesterday. Now, thankfully, officials say no one was hurt, but one witness near alpine said the rushing waters looked like, quote, "a black monster of lava."

BLACKWELL: Wow.

PAUL: A pretty good description.

BLACKWELL: And, you know, what they don't need is more rain, but there is a chance today that they could hit by - could be hit by some scattered thunderstorms.

PAUL: Want to bring in CNN's Alexandra Steele.

Good morning to you, Alexandra. What specifically can Utah residents expect today?

ALEXANDRA STEELE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you guys.

Yes, more of the same, unfortunately. More showers, more thunderstorms. Again the threat for flash flooding. This is the radar from yesterday. You can see here's the timestamp yesterday afternoon south of Salt Lake City. That's where Highland and Alpine are. And you can see, here are those heavy showers and thunderstorms that rolled in, just dumping the rain. Even the BYU football game yesterday, it was delayed by two hours. Officials said get out of your seats, get to safer ground, and so then they came back.

So, there's a look at what happened yesterday. Here's the current radar picture. You know, it's the time of year this month, monsoonal moisture coming in. So, in southern Nevada, in Utah and in southern California, the threat again with all this monsoonal moisture, showers, thunderstorms and flash flooding. Right now pretty quiet, but you kind of see the atmosphere bubbling up and developing. But look at the forecast for the next two days. Once again, another inch to two. The rain you were looking at from that video, they picked up about 1.25 inches. Another one to two in Utah, two to four south of that in areas of -- parts of Arizona.

So, let's head eastward. And as we go eastward, kind of the story changes. Here, east of that, it's the heat. We talked about the heat yesterday. Look at some of these numbers. Yesterday, McCook, Nebraska, 106. Russell, Kansas, 104. So this dome of high pressure east of where all that axis of moisture is. Look at this. Denver, 67 by Tuesday. A couple more days of the intense heat. The heat all pushes eastward. Washington gets into the 90s by next week. So, the northeast, guys, a beautiful next five days. Temperatures slowly ascending and getting warmer as that heat that's in the central part of the country pushes eastward.

PAUL: All righty. Alexandra Steele, thank you so much.

STEELE: Sure.

BLACKWELL: Coming up on NEW DAY, a special delivery from Afghanistan. Soldiers who promised never to leave their furry friends behind finally get to adopt the animals they loved and cared for in a war zone.

Plus, the president's hard push on Syria. What the administration is showing Congress to make their case. CNN's Jake Tapper will show you in a moment.

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PAUL: Well, mortgage rates picked up this week. Have a look.

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PAUL: Bottom of the hour already here on a Sunday morning. Welcome back. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Here are five things you need to know for your "NEW DAY."

PAUL: And I don't want to catch you off guard. So, in about three seconds, I just want to forewarn you here that the video we're about to show you is graphic and purportedly shows people dying from the gas attack, OK? Here we go.

Number one, the Senate Intelligence Committee has posted 13 videos like this one on its website. U.S. officials say the videos show the aftermath of a sarin gas attack in Syria, August 21st. Committee members saw this video last week, and the images could be shown tomorrow at briefings for all House and Senate members.

BLACKWELL: Number two, an estimated 100,000 people packed St. Peter's Square on Saturday. Pope Francis presided over a vigil for the people of Syria. Now, this went for five hours. It's a five-hour service. The pope issued a plea for peace and implored world leaders not to take military action. He urged them instead to pull humanity out of a "spiral of sorrow and death."

PAUL: Number three, Australia has a new prime minister today. His name is Tony Abbott, and he represents a conservative coalition. Though votes are still being counted, by the way, incumbent Kevin Rudd has conceded. Abbott's win ends six years of government leadership by the liberal Labor Party. Abbott has pledged a competent and trustworthy government. BLACKWELL: Here's number four, two men are recovering this morning after they were bitten by sharks off the coast of Florida. Authorities say it happened off New Smyrna Beach, it's just south of Daytona Beach. The men were swimming in knee-deep water when one was bitten on the foot and the other was bitten on the shin. But they are expected to live.

PAUL: And number five, basketball bad boy Dennis Rodman isn't saying much about his recent trip to North Korea, but when pressed about why he didn't help free imprisoned American Kenneth Bae, here's what the worm told reporters. Quote. "Ask Obama about that. Ask Hillary Clinton about that. Ask those" -- you see the expletive there that starts with an "a." That's what he used. Rodman had previously tweeted that he wanted North Korea to free Bae.

BLACKWELL: Big week in Washington. Congress gets back to work tomorrow on Capitol Hill. Number one on the agenda, Syria. A briefing is set for Monday evening for all members of the House and the Senate.

PAUL: Yeah, they're expected to see 13 shocking videos, some of which you just saw a bit of, that intelligence officials say prove chemical weapons were used to kill 1,400 people in Syria just last month. Now, CNN's Jake Tapper was the first to get those videos after they were shown to some senators last week. Jake?

JAKE TAPPER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: CNN has obtained these 13 shocking videos shown to a key Senate committee Thursday, which show what the intelligence community describes as victims of a sarin gas attack, and I must warn our viewers that the videos are quite disturbing. The videos were shown Thursday in a classified briefing to members of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Its chair, Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein of California had requested that the intelligence community put the DVD together to show this evidence of a chemical weapons attack. She is advocating for military intervention in Syria. The images are shocking to watch, young children convulsing on the floor, close-up shots of people apparently dying, lines of what seemed to be dead bodies shrouded in neat rows. And while the images are disturbing, we should note that these videos do not prove that the Assad regime carried out these attacks. That's a claim the U.S. government is making. They say based on other information that CNN has not verified.

As I said, these clips were shown to the Senate Intelligence Committee, but not yet to members of the House of Representatives. We could expect them to see those images in one of their classified briefings coming up. Back to you.

PAUL: Jake Tapper, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Boy, that is just hard to watch.

BLACKWELL: It's difficult to watch, but Jake made the case about why we're showing it ...

PAUL: Right, right, there's a reason.

BLACKWELL: ... because Congress will see it.

The Obama administration is expected to show those 13 disturbing videos, as we said, to House members during briefings that happen tomorrow.

PAUL: So, we want to talk about the impact of those really jolting images with Julian Zelizer, he is a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University. Professor, thank you so much for being with us. And let me ask you, from the perspective of history, are those videos, will they be the determining factor for an attack on Syria in your opinion?

JULIAN ZELIZER, HISTORIAN, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY: They are not the determining factor. They can have an impact. When people, legislators or citizens, see something so graphic, it can move them, it can move, it can create pressure for military action. But we're in the post-Iraq age. There's so much skepticism right now about what the government says and does. I think Obama will need to make even more of a case to convince Congress to give him the vote that he wants.

BLACKWELL: Julian, Nick Kristof wrote this op-ed this morning, "Pulling the curtain back on Syria" in "The New York Times." I want to read a portion of it. He writes, "When history looks back on this moment, will it view those who opposed intervening as champions of peace? Or when the textbooks count the dead children, will our descendants puzzle that we took pride in retreating into passivity during this slaughter?" Listen, most agree that chemical weapons were used there, and we've heard from members of Congress who all say that they deplore what they've seen, but they've all asked for irrefutable evidence. Doesn't it come down to just proving beyond not just a reasonable doubt, but proving 100 percent to these members that it was the Syrian regime that used them?

ZELIZER: Well, I think Obama actually needs to do two things. One is to make the case and provide the evidence that this is a result of the Assad regime, but he also needs to lay out some principles. If we are going to do this, will we act, again, with other kinds of humanitarian tragedies that take place all the time, many of which the Obama administration and other administrations have not acted on? And I think it's important for Obama to deal with Syria, but also to provide a bigger framework for foreign policy so that Americans understand why we're going into this war. If he can do this through speeches, through the congressional debate, I think he can actually build some of the congressional support, which has become weaker as the week's progressed.

PAUL: All righty. Well, professor, let's play a clip of Congressman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, she is the head of the Democratic National Committee, and I want to get your thoughts afterwards. So, let's listen to what she has to say.'

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REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ (D) FLORIDA: For me, as a mother, you know, to see that searing image of babies lined up murdered by their own government, innocent children? I mean, as a Jew, Wolf, I have to tell you, as a member of Congress who represents one of the largest Holocaust survivor populations in the country, to me, the concept of never again has to mean something.

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PAUL: A pretty powerful statement. What is your reaction to that, professor?

ZELIZER: It's powerful sentiment, and many people in the administration still remember how the U.S. government didn't respond to things like Rwanda, where there are other humanitarian crises that haunt presidents who lived through them. And so, I think that is the sentiment that the president wants to tap into, but at the same time, with the memory of Iraq, he has to explain why this and not others and what the mission is, what our goals are so that this doesn't become an endless war and that the casualties and blowback potentially are not equally bad. So, he has to play on that sentiment, but then guide legislators toward where the end will be.

BLACKWELL: All right, Professor Julian Zelizer, good to have you this morning from Princeton. We're going to continue this conversation throughout the morning. Thanks for being a part of it.

PAUL: Absolutely.

And still to come, most of the stories that we bring you about war are full of pain, right, and loss. Well, this next one, hopefully, is going to melt your heart and make you smile. A loyal dog and her puppies reunited with the soldiers who vowed they would not leave them behind.

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PAUL: All righty, so, if you are having your coffee this morning, think about this. One guy got more than a latte at a Starbucks in San Antonio, Texas. The customer said he found, look at that, a snake in a toilet in the men's room!

BLACKWELL: Nope, mm-mmm, no.

PAUL: CNN affiliate KSAT reports his wife snapped those photos that you just saw and posted them online. Experts say it's probably a Texas rat snake.

BLACKWELL: Can you imagine going back to the barista and saying, uh, there's a snake in the toilet?

PAUL: Yeah, and that barista's going to find somebody else to help.

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BLACKWELL: The U.S. Coast Guard coming to the rescue again, but this time, it was hundreds of baby sea turtles that got saved.

PAUL: Aww.

BLACKWELL: The turtles, each one about the size of a cookie, a good cookie, not the tiny ones.

PAUL: Yes.

BLACKWELL: Had been stranded just off the shore of Florida. They were taken about six miles out and then released one by one by hand under the sea beds where they have a better chance to survive.

PAUL: They're sweet. Well, listen, one final mission from Afghanistan, operation "Puppy Rescue." This week, a loyal dog and her puppies were reunited with soldiers who promised that they would not leave them behind in a war zone.

BLACKWELL: The pups had quite a journey from a dog shelter in Kabul to Dubai, and finally, to the U.S. It's cost about $4,000 each to rescue these eight dogs, though.

PAUL: But hey, look at that reunion.

BLACKWELL: Yeah.

PAUL: People say, especially people who have dogs like myself, they're your family, they're worth it, they're priceless. CNN chief animal lover Randi Kaye has this story. Good morning, Randi.

RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Christi and Victor. As you know, on most days, the news coming out of Afghanistan is not good -- car bombs, attacks on U.S. soldiers. But this week, one story from that region had us all smiling. I had the chance to meet a group of soldiers who made it their final mission to bring their loyal companions home.

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KAYE: At terminal 4 at JFK Airport, Sergeant Edwin Caba and his fellow soldiers from the Army National Guard, are anxiously awaiting a special delivery from Afghanistan.

SGT. EDWIN CABA, ARMY NATIONAL GUARD: I'm extremely excited. I can't even put into words. I'm antsy, excited, anxious. I mean, I'm pumped up.

KAYE: To better understand why, let me take you back to Afghanistan earlier this year, where Sergeant Caba and the others were helping train Afghan patrols on the border with Iran. A stray dog took a liking to them, and the men immediately bonded with her. She went on patrols with them and waited each night for their safe return. They named her Sheba. When she got pregnant, the soldiers knew her life and the puppies' lives were in danger. The puppies were hungry and Sheba was dangerously thin. So, the men started giving her and soon her seven pups their rations, MREs, beef jerky, you name it. They bathed them, swaddled them in blankets and loved them like their own. Sergeant Caba realized he just couldn't leave Afghanistan without the dogs. CABA: I fell in love. You know what, and from the second that she was born, we were all kind of like oh, they're cute. And then they started getting their personalities and, you know kind of taking to us very well. And you know, you can't leave something like that behind.

KAYE: A couple of phone calls, and soon, Sergeant Caba was in touch with Guardians of Rescue, a New York group that rescues animals. They got word to this dog shelter in Kabul, Afghanistan. And after some very generous donations, the dogs were brought there, quarantined for three months. Next, they were shipped to Dubai, then flown to the U.S., an 8,000-mile journey, which brings us back to JFK's terminal 4.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

KAYE: Late Wednesday, the dogs arrived to cheers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got you here! We said we would!

KAYE: The puppies had grown a bit, but they sure seemed to remember the guys.

CABA: I feel fantastic. I haven't seen them in a while, and she's gorgeous. I can't believe that they're here.

KAYE: They were checked out at a local shelter, where they got some strange stares from others, wondering where they came from. There was also a group photo.

CABA: Oh, somebody --

KAYE: Well, sort of. All the excitement was a bit too much for Sheba, the puppies' mother, but her babies, now 5 1/2 months, were thrilled.

(on camera): Does she know any tricks yet?

CABA: She doesn't know that she's doing it, but she does shake hands.

KAYE (voice over): Back home in Long Beach, New York, Sergeant Caba's puppy Cadence seems right at home after her first night.

(on camera): How'd she do overnight?

CABA: She did well. She's a howler, so that was something we weren't expecting.

KAYE (voice over): During our interview, she was easily distracted by all the new sights and sounds.

(BARKIG)

KAYE (on camera): She thinks she's still in Afghanistan.

CABA: She does. KAYE (voice over): For Sergeant Caba and the rest of his unit, these dogs managed to give them a bit of normalcy far from home.

CABA: She has offered so much companionship, you know? Just to see someone excited to see me when we were back there, her little butt shaking and her tongue out it was fantastic, it was, and it means the world. She makes things so much easier. Come on, girl.

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KAYE: The soldiers say they hope to have some sort of reunion for all of them and their puppies once they're all housebroken, of course. And as far as Sheba, the puppies' mother goes, she wasn't adopted yet, but Guardians of Rescue, the animal rescue group that helped arrange all of this will be helping her adapt to life here in the U.S., and then they also plan to train her to become a service dog for soldiers with PTSD. Victor, Christi?

PAUL: Oh, I love it! Randi Kaye, thank you so much! And to learn more or to help, just visit guardiansofrescue.org. And thank you to that organization for everything they're doing.

BLACKWELL: Sergeant Caba says he chose Cadence because when she was a puppy, she'd sleep on her back with her mouth open and he does the same thing.

PAUL: He does it? Yeah.

BLACKWELL: So he says they were meant to be together.

(LAUGHTER)

PAUL: Oh, well, hey, listen to this one, riding jet skis for a cause. That's what some combat veterans are doing to raise money for military personnel and their families, riding 1,600 miles from Key West to New York City. That's eight hours a day every day until they arrive in the Big Apple on September 11th. And among the riders are two double leg amputees. Thank you to them for their service and good luck on the ride.

BLACKWELL: Still to come on "NEW DAY" James Gandolfini's final film hits theaters, and we'll tell you why his co-star called this movie a reflection of the late star as a human being.

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PAUL: All righty. So, as you're getting your calendar together heading into next week, I want to make sure that there are some things you know about that you're probably going to be interested in. First of all, summer vacation is over on Monday, right? So, Congress returns to Capitol Hill. The big issue, of course, on their plate is whether to approve military action in Syria.

Also on Monday, set your DVRs at 6:00 P.M. Eastern, CNN's very own Wolf Blitzer interviewing President Obama about his plans in Syria. And then moving on to Tuesday, Obama is going to address the nation, making his case for action in Syria, and CNN, of course, will be covering that live as well, so you won't miss a thing.

Wednesday, would you believe a day of remembrance already? The 12- year anniversary of September 11th terror attacks. Observances are going to take place in New York, D.C. and towns all over the country. And then on Sunday, come with that, the new season of CNN's "Parts Unknown" with Anthony Bourdain kicks off. Episode one is going to feature tours of Israel, the West Bank and Gaza. So, there you have it.

BLACKWELL: It's been more than two months since the world lost James Gandolfini, beloved actor best known for his role as mob boss Tony Soprano, iconic role, but he takes on a very different role in the last film he made before his death. Nischelle Turner has a peak for you of "Enough Said." Nischelle?

NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Of the films premiering here at the Toronto Film Festival, "Enough Said," James Gandolfini's last film, the last time we'll see him on the big screen. CNN sat down with the film's co-star Julia Louis-Dreyfus and she told us how it feels to be out promoting this film without him right beside her.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JULIA LOUIS DREYFUS, ACTOR "ENOUGH SAID": I really wish that he was sitting next to me talking about this film, but having said that, this is an amazing part of his legacy, for people to be able to see this performance, which was so very real and small and heartbreaking, and really very close to who he, James, was as a human being himself.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

TURNER: Julia says James Gandolfini's family has seen the film and that they did love it. She says at first they weren't sure they wanted to see it, but after watching it, she got a long note from his family telling her just how much they enjoyed the movie. Back to you.

BLACKWELL: All right, Nischelle Turner, thank you.

PAUL: And still to come on "NEW DAY," he kept America's secrets, then sold them to the soviets. We're going to have more from our exclusive interview with the original NSA leaker, Christopher Boyce.

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BLACKWELL: All right, coming up near the top of the hour. Police in New Jersey -- this one's fun -- they had to come to the rescue after an unusual home invasion? Well, the suspect, you see it here on the screen, a pretty big wild turkey.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARIA MANCO, HOMEOWNER: A wild turkey came through my skylight and it's flying around my house right now just destroying everything. I'm in my bedroom, but I'm afraid to come out. I just hear it banging and it's just destroying my whole house!

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PAUL: Oh, bless her heart!

BLACKWELL: I feel terrible for Maria. Hopefully, she's able to laugh about it this morning.

PAUL: Yes, yes.

BLACKWELL: Not then, of course. This turkey trashed the place, caused about $7,000 in damage, and then police officers were able to chase it out. They think this turkey got in and got a little aggressive after seeing its own reflection in the mirror ...

(LAUGHTER)

BLACKWELL: ... and then, you know, mistaking it for another turkey that was trying to take some territory.

PAUL: How do you explain that to your insurance company?

BLACKWELL: Hopefully ...

PAUL: A turkey broke into my house!

BLACKWELL: You play the 911 call.

Must-see moments. Consumer tech giant LG, they played a heart- stopping trick on some job applicants recently. They turned it into their latest product commercial. Here it is. The company tried to highlight how realistic images look on their TV screens and they disguised a meteor plummeting toward the earth. And you see they're trying to make this look like a window into this office.

(LAUGHTER)

PAUL: And really, look at these people's reaction! On the screen, you see here, look at them go.

BLACKWELL: I mean, you can see it scared the living daylights out of everybody. Mean trick? Yes. Hilarious? Of course, it is! LG says the applicants were completely in the dark about the whole thing. They will leave it up to you to decide. Did not get the job, though.

PAUL: They did not get the job?

BLACKWELL: I don't know. You can't hire everybody.

PAUL: That's right. Well, that's true.

Thank you so much for starting your morning with us.

BLACKWELL: We've got much more ahead on the next hour of "NEW DAY." It starts right now. PAUL: We're so glad for your company! It's 7:00 here in the East. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to have you this "NEW DAY SUNDAY."

PAUL: Already, in a little more than 24 hours, Congress, as you know, is going to be back in Washington trying to work out what's going to happen with Syria. This is after a month-long break, of course, their first task, will they or won't they attack the Syrian regime?

BLACKWELL: We now know they will have a chance to see some evidence, and we are getting a chance to see it. And we have to tell you right off the top here, it is disturbing, from start to finish. Reportedly shows dozens of people dying or dead, some of them children, after being gassed with a deadly nerve agent.

PAUL: So, this is a good time to maybe herd the kids out of the room, because we just don't want to catch you off-guard. CNN's Jake Tapper was the first to obtain the 13 videos that the Obama administration has shown to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

BLACKWELL: Some rooms show entire spaces filled with corpses. You see this entire corner here, all children. Others show people convulsing on the floor, frothing at the mouth. You can see them twitching uncontrollably like this man.

PAUL: And there are still others that show the desperate attempts to resuscitate the lifeless bodies, look at that, of young children. I'm sorry, I know it's so hard to look at.

BLACKWELL: Let's go to Barbara Starr at the Pentagon. Barbara, what makes U.S. officials believe that these videos are authentic?

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Well, what sources have told CNN, including Jake Tapper who first broke this story, is the videos were shot from multiple angles. So, that's one indicator verifying what transpired, that outdoor elements matched the overhead imagery, the satellite pictures taken overhead at these locations. And that, indeed, some of the survivors that were there verified the events that have taken place.

So, the feeling is they have multiple points of confirmation. The very strong feeling in the administration is there's just simply no doubt about this.

PAUL: All right. So, there may not be any doubt about that, but the one thing these videos do not prove is who facilitated that attack, right?

STARR: Well, right. I mean, some in congress, some in public have raised this question, who really did this? Now, the administration's view is, regardless, they feel it was the Syrian regime. Whether Bashar al Assad knew about it himself and ordered it himself, they say it doesn't matter. They are holding him responsible and that the regime could have been the only one with the means and the capability to get its hands on this material and to launch the weapons that would have caused this attack, that the rebels simply didn't have access to this kind of material.

So, again, they believe very strongly it was the regime. Do they have that, you know, confirming piece of evidence that it was Assad? Perhaps not, not at this point, at least.

BLACKWELL: Barbara, members of the administration will be briefing members of Congress tomorrow, and they will get a lot of information that the public does not have. Why release this information? Why release this video?

STARR: Well, I'll tell you, one person who felt very strongly that it should be released when she saw it was Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat, California, the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. She felt very strongly that this was something that everyone should see.

I want you to listen to a little bit of what she had to say.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: I had asked the CIA to prepare a DVD which would have specific instances of evidence, largely victims, and what we see means, what pinpointed eyes mean, what the convulsions mean, a number of aspects. And we received that this morning. And it's horrendous.

So, we are having that DVD multiplied, and we're going to get it out to every member of the Senate and possibly members of the House so that they can at their leisure go through it, and also what each instance means in terms of making a determination that chemical agents were used.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STARR: The video's now public, and that full court press on to get Congress to do what President Obama says he wants to do.

BLACKWELL: All right. Barbara Starr at the Pentagon for us, thank you.

PAUL: Meanwhile, the president is betting that those videos are going to convince Congress to go along with a strike on Syria. For the first time since that gas attack, both the House and the Senate are going to be on the job Monday.

So, CNN's Emily Schmidt is joining us now.

And, Emily, thanks for being with us. I know CNN's keeping a running tally of the vote? Do we have any idea where that count stands this morning?

EMILY SCHMIDT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Christi, I'm going to show you the latest count. What it does tell us is the uphill battle that the Obama administration's facing as it tries to convince members of Congress to support this resolution authorizing strikes against Syria. We have the tally. We're going to start with the Senate for you. That's going to be the first to vote and where opinions that have been expressed so far are the most evenly divided.

Take a look at this. Twenty-five senators saying they will vote yes, 20 no, still 55 undecided. It takes 60 yes votes to pass the resolution. It could be as early as Wednesday.

Take a look at the House. The numbers show a different emerging story, more clear disagreement, 24 members in the yes column, 123 in the no. More than half of the members saying they are still undecided. We're still waiting for an exact timeline of any kind of a House vote.

Also still to be seen is how that video that was first obtained by CNN that Barbara Starr was talking about and now posted by the Senate Intelligence Committee on its Web site for anyone to see could impact lawmakers' decisions. A number of lawmakers on the fence will be on the morning talk shows this morning.

We're going to look closely to see whether or not this video shifted their views one way or another -- Christi.

PAUL: Or their constituents will be calling them and shifting their opinions. With the house back in session, too, the president, I would think, would be having some more briefings, yes?

SCHMIDT: Yes, we're talking about that full court press from the administration. That was on in Washington even when the lawmakers weren't here, calls to members of Congress, some briefings held, but now that everyone is returning, the already intense pressure is ratcheting up another level. The administration is planning to have its major players, really everyone on the job taking on this task.

Later today, we are expecting Vice President Biden will be meeting for dinner at the naval observatory with a number of Republican senators. Then, key members of the Obama administration, secretary of state, secretary of defense, among others, they are expected to hold closed intelligence briefings for every single member of the House tomorrow. They'll do the same, we're expecting, for all the senators on Wednesday.

We expect the same videos that we're talking about are going to be part of the information that are shared -- Christi.

PAUL: All righty. Hey, Emily Schmidt, we appreciate it so much. Thank you.

And President Obama's intense campaign for a strike on Syria really goes into overdrive this week. Tomorrow, he's talking with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. You can see that interview in "THE SITUATION ROOM" at 6:00 Eastern. More CNN coverage Tuesday night as well when the president addresses the nation on Syria.

BLACKWELL: Meanwhile, across the nation, thousands of people are demonstrating and protesting as Congress weighs military action in Syria.

Let's first go to San Francisco, where activists held signs and banners, urging the U.S. not to engage in war but, rather, peace. Now to Washington, where protesters took their voices and their message directly to the White House, right there in front of the gates in front of the White House, calling for the U.S. to stand down on any military action.

In New York, hundreds of antiwar demonstrators gathered in Union Square. They held signs and chanted "No war in Syria."

PAUL: Secretary of State John Kerry, meanwhile, is meeting with representatives of the Arab League in Paris today.

BLACKWELL: Afterwards, he's taking his campaign for that military strike on Syria to London. And again, the U.K. has rejected any military role.

CNN's Elise Labott is joining us from Paris -- Elise.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ELISE LABOTT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Secretary of State Kerry had more luck than President Obama in building international support for action against Syria. After four hours of meeting with all 28 foreign ministers from the European Union in Lithuania, the E.U. issued a unanimous statement calling for strong and clear international action against the Assad regime, but they want to see that report from the U.N. inspectors on that August 21st chemical attack first.

France was the only ally who said it would take part in a coalition. French President Francois Hollande wanted more European support, and Europeans said if you want our support, we have to have U.N. involvement. It's important to European public.

So, this is the kind of horse trading going in European capitals. We have our politics in Washington and they have theirs. The U.S. halted going to the United Nations because it says Russia is blocking any movement in the U.N. Security Council and standing by Syria.

Secretary Kerry said, even so, the world has a responsibility to act. Let's take a listen.

JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: When you look at those videos of those children heaving for breath, unable to move, spasming, their lives stolen from them or their parents' lives stolen from them by gas in the middle of the night when they should have been sleeping comfortably at home in their beds. Instead, they're wiped out by a man who has no conscience about what he does to his own people. Are we supposed to walk away from that?

LABOTT: Now, on Sunday, Secretary Kerry will be meeting here with Arab foreign ministers. The Arab League has been somewhat more supportive in calling for international action and condemning the Assad regime, but the U.S. is looking for much stronger shows of public support.

Elise Labott, CNN, Paris.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BLACKWELL: All right, thanks to Elise on the road with the secretary of state.

PAUL: All righty, still to come on your NEW DAY, cheers, tears and some gold ticker tape. We're going to show you what has Japan so excited.

BLACKWELL: Plus, he paved the way for Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden. We'll have more of my exclusive interview with the original NSA leaker, Christopher Boyce.

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PAUL: Appropriate music and live pictures for you of Tokyo, where it's 8:00 at night. You know they're no doubt still celebrating from today's big announcement, or I should say yesterday's big announcement. Congratulations to them. Just in case you haven't heard the big news, here it is.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The city of -- Tokyo!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PAUL: Look at them go! Tokyo's been named the host city for the 2020 Summer Games. The Japanese delegation there, as you can see, overjoyed at that news.

BLACKWELL: How great is that job? That you know whatever you're going to pull out of that envelope, there are going to be thousands of people around the world screaming anyway?

PAUL: I want that job, right? Just make people happy.

BLACKWELL: Yes, great job.

In Utah, heavy rains and flash floods have forced a lot of people to leave their homes Saturday. Take a look at this video. This is the street, not just a river in Utah. Officials say the good news is that no one was injured. Evacuations have been lifted.

PAUL: Utah could still see scattered thunderstorms today, though, and that is not what they want to hear. So, let's bring in CNN's Alexandra Steele.

Alexandra, kind of walk us through what's in store.

ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: You know, the BYU game, actually, the football game even delayed a couple of hours and officials said get out of your seats, get to safety.

Here's what happened. Here's the radar picture from yesterday. All this monsoonal moisture coming in earnest, and Salt Lake City points south, highland, about 30 miles south of Salt Lake City, here's what we saw, heavy rain, flooding and flash flooding. And again, that's part of the picture today. Currently, here's the current radar. You can see kind of the moisture, the atmosphere still kind of getting its act together.

But in the next two days, take a look at the rain we're going to see. Again, in Utah and in southern Nevada, in areas of Arizona, 2 to 4 inches there, another 1 to 2 in Utah. So, once again, this monsoonal moisture coming in. It's the time of the year for it.

So, we're going to take this forecast and move eastward, and the story here becomes something a little bit different. It's the heat. McCook, Nebraska, 106. All of these records. Russell, Kansas, 104. Kind of ensconced in the heat in Nebraska, Kansas, yesterday, but that heat is on the move, and that is moving eastward.

So, look at places like Denver, records the last three days, 97, tying the record yesterday at 95. Today 94. Look what happens on Tuesday, 67.

So, that's what happens this time of year, kind of those crazy undulations of temperatures. But watch places farther eastward, like Wichita. The Heat stays because the axis of heat pushes eastward.

So, 15 to 20 degrees above average with this ridge of high pressure. Look what happens by the time we head toward Tuesday and Wednesday. It's actually Wednesday that we're going to see the peak of this heat, places like Boston and New York climb up about 10 to 15 degrees. So, there's New York, 84 on Tuesday. It gets even warmer on Wednesday, though. Washington as well gets into the 90s, guys.

So, here come the temperatures across the board, cruising from west to east and going up about 15 degrees.

BLACKWELL: All right, Alexandra. We will ride along for the warm-up. Thanks.

STEELE: Yes! Nice, warm September and October.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

Well, he went to prison or 25 years for selling secrets to the Soviets. Now he's sharing some of his own exclusively with CNN. Up next, part two of my interview with convicted spy Christopher Boyce. It's an amazing conversation. It's his first on-camera interview in 28 years.

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BLACKWELL: Twenty minutes after the hour now. Before Edward Snowden, before Bradley Manning, there were Christopher Boyce and Andrew Dalton Lee, a couple of California kids hell bent on damaging the U.S. government.

Some might remember them. Maybe you remember them from "The Falcon and the Snowman."

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I had no idea the extent of the lies, the level of deception.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who did you receive your instructions from?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You want to be partners? I'm offering you a partnership.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLACKWELL: In the 1970s, Boyce was an NSA contractor. He claimed he was angry about what he called a U.S. plan to overthrow the Australian government. So he teamed up with his friend, Lee, to steal secret NSA codes and sell them to the Soviets.

They were caught, tried for espionage, sent to prison. Dalton served 20 years, Boyce served 25, but what happened after they were freed has been a mystery until now.

Christopher Boyce and his wife, Cait, are providing some answers in their new book, "The Falcon and the Snowman: American Sons."

They sat down with me for an exclusive interview. It was Christopher's first on-camera interview in 28 years. Now, I asked him how the relationship with Chris's childhood friend and co-conspirator deteriorated, why he sold the secrets to the Soviets in the first place and if the decades he served in prison were worth it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHRISTOPHER BOYCE, CONVICTED SPY: I am saying that it is a terrible thing for a person to bring down upon themselves, but if you so firmly believe that what you're doing is right, then yes, you ought to do it, but you need to realize the consequences.

BLACKWELL: I think a lot of readers were really touched or impressed with you, Cait, and why you got involved with this case. You were a paralegal at the time. You were trying to get out Chris Boyce's co-conspirator, Andrew Dalton Lee. What attracted you to this case and why did you become so intimately involved with trying to free these two men?

CAIT BOYCE, CO-AUTHOR, "THE FALCON AND THE SNOWMAN": In my various meetings with Dalton, we became very close friends and I was very fond of Dalton and I couldn't not be involved in that. So, as I struggled to work with him, I also realized that I needed to communicate with Chris, mostly because I wanted some kind of an input from Chris as to what I could do to help Dalton, what I could tell the parole commission at his hearings.

And as I got more and more involved with it and just became friends with Chris, it kind of took over.

BLACKWELL: What happened to that relationship and why did it go away?

CHRISTOPHER BOYCE: I think that he blames me, in a way, for what we both did, and that's understandable.

BLACKWELL: And, Cait, you worked for a very long time to try to free this man and now you're not speaking to him?

CAIT BOYCE: It's not that I'm not speaking to him. I would be more than happy to talk to Dalton, but there's no part of Dalton that's ever going to forgive me for marrying Chris.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLACKWELL: Well, I also asked Christopher and Cait about Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden, and I wanted to know if they thought Manning and Snowden were traitors for revealing American secrets.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CAIT BOYCE: I'm not much on that "T" word. That really bothers me. A lot of people have referred to Chris as a traitor, too. I don't happen to believe that. I think in Manning and Snowden's case, I truly believe that if, in fact, everything that they have said is 100 percent true, I think they're heroes.

BLACKWELL: Heroes.

CAIT BOYCE: And that should get me in trouble.

BLACKWELL: So, you spent decades in prison. You'd call him a hero as well?

CHRISTOPHER BOYCE: Yes, I would. I don't know that I could do what I did again, but I believe that what he did was right. I believe that what he has revealed was in the best interests of the American people, and I think that he is attempting to defend civil liberties, and I think that the surveillance state is a threat to our civil liberties.

BLACKWELL: Would you be interested in working on their cases, considering your history?

CAIT BOYCE: Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLACKWELL: And online, you can find out why Cait is interested in working on Bradley Manning's case specifically. This is part two. Part one aired yesterday. If you want to see that, you can see it on CNN.com.

Christi?

PAUL: All righty, thanks.

Coming up on NEW DAY, the music of a pint-sized piano prodigy. You're going to be blown away by what this baby Beethoven can do! Stay close.

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PAUL: Look at that little mini Mozart. Jacob Velasquez there, a 5-year-old. Yep, 5 years old. Piano prodigy. His teacher told CNN, listen to this, affiliate WPLG, that he can play a song after just listening to it, without even reading the music!

And apparently, his biggest problem is, you know he's 5 and he's small, so his hands and his feet are too tiny for certain pieces. That will come, though.

BLACKWELL: Amazing!

PAUL: Can't wait to see what's ahead.

BLACKWELL: At 6. This is 5.

PAUL: No kidding.

BLACKWELL: Just when you thought you have seen it all, and we have shown you some very interesting things in the must-see moment, we've got something new for you.

PAUL: A 31-pound cat named Buddha. The 31-pound cat got me first, but Buddha is working out on an underwater treadmill. Seriously? An underwater treadmill for the cat.

BLACKWELL: Well, apparently, it's working, because Buddha has built up his endurance, is now walking on the treadmill 12 minutes at a time. Good for you, Buddha, got to start somewhere. And me's lost 5 pounds, so good.

PAUL: I bet he's not happy, though. That cat doesn't look happy. A lot of cats don't look happy, but that one really doesn't look happy.

BLACKWELL: And most cats don't like water.

PAUL: Look, he's crying for help.

All righty. We're going to see you at the top of the hour, 8:00 Eastern, for another round of your NEW DAY SUNDAY. We're glad to have you here.

BLACKWELL: But, first, "SANJAY GUPTA, M.D." starts right now.