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Historic Meeting; Shooter Captured On Video; Pakistan Fatalities Rising; Utah Coach Suspends Entire Team; Shutdown Showdown; More Money, More Problems; Miley's Foam Finger; Tina Fey Flashes!; "Homeland": The Musical

Aired September 26, 2013 - 07:30   ET

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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to NEW DAY, everyone. It is Thursday, September 26th. Let's get straight to Michaela for the latest headlines.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, let's do it. Making news, the highest level face-to-face meeting between diplomats from Tehran and the U.S. in more than 30 years is happening today, Secretary of State John Kerry meeting with his counterpart as well as representatives of five other world powers. Their primary objective is negotiating on Iran's nuclear program.

Surveillance video showing that the Washington Navy Yard gunman as he prepares for his rampage. You see Aaron Alexis walking with his gun, roaming the halls, people in the distance running for cover when they see what is about to transpire. The FBI now says Alexis was under the belief that he was being controlled by electromagnetic waves.

The death toll from Tuesday's earthquake in Pakistan climbing 350 deaths are confirmed, 500 more injured, over 20,000 homes were also destroyed. That 7.7 magnitude earthquake struck in a remote southern area of the country. The Army says it is air lifting rescue troops to help the original deployment sent by truck.

A high school football coach in Roosevelt, Utah suspended his entire team for lack of character. He made the decision after finding out players have been skipping class and cyberbullying a fellow student. Every player now has a list of things they need to do to get back on the field and instead of playing ball this weekend. They'll be performing community service. That's what a coach is about, fulfilling character, not just, you know, back to the game.

BOLDUAN: That's completely right.

CUOMO: That's what I'm talking about.

BOLDUAN: So we're just four days away now from a possible government shutdown and a fight over raising the debt ceiling is right around the corner, unfortunately, our economy hanging in the balance.

Here to break down both sides of this ongoing debate, host of CNN "CROSSFIRE" and Democratic strategist, Stephanie Cutter and Ana Navarro, CNN political commentator and Republican strategist.

ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I wish that football coach was running Congress right now.

BOLDUAN: Great to see you both. Ana, first to you, so you were no fan of Ted Cruz's approach in how to handle this government shutdown or the threat of a government shutdown. So what do you think of the strategy that House Republicans are working on now, get past the shutdown is what they're thinking and have the real fight over the debt ceiling.

NAVARRO: I think that has some merit to it. Frankly, there's been a delay for corporations. What they're asking for is a delay now for individuals of one year. There are a lot of questions surrounding Obamacare. There's a lot of lack of familiarity, lack of information. You look at the polls, most people have questions, don't understand what it is.

There's got to be a better job explaining it by Democrats and if we're going to fix what needs to be fixed, I'm not going to come on TV and say there's not good things about Obamacare, but let's also stop pretending there's not bad things about Obamacare. That could be fixed in one year if our folks got together, compromised and fixed what needs fixed.

BOLDUAN: Ana makes a key point here. What about compromise, Stephanie? Because when it comes to the debt ceiling, the president has said over and over again, he will not negotiate. But isn't that what divided government is about, negotiating and compromise?

STEPHANIE CUTTER, HOST, CNN'S "CROSSFIRE": Well, first of all on the affordable care act, Obamacare, that is -- you know, we're days away from people having the ability to sign up for new plans. There's plenty of time. They have six months, the open window to buy a plan and there is some information that needs to get out there, but that's what people are doing now.

All over the country, rates just got put out yesterday. People are learning what their options are. They're saying that they have better options and lower prices. So this isn't about compromise. This is about what Republicans have been trying to do for three years now. This has been the law of the land for three years. They don't want to tweak this law to make it better. They want it to go away.

Unfortunately, they haven't been able to do that. In elections, they haven't been able to do that. In the Supreme Court, they haven't been able to do that and with more than 40 votes in Congress they haven't been able to do that. If they have ideas to make this law better, the president has said he's open to it. Democrats are open to it, but that's not what this is about.

BOLDUAN: Stephanie is not saying anything that's kind of breaking news, Ana. We all know that the president is not going to defund or he is going to delay any more the core of Obamacare. So is the fact that that's where Republicans kind of want to start this -- negotiating this, bargaining with possible compromise over the debt ceiling, does that hurt their argument that this is their starting point?

NAVARRO: No, start big, Kate. You know, in any negotiation you start big. Obviously if he gave a delay to corporations, if they've done things like given exceptions to legislators and staff, there are also other people who deserve exceptions and delays. Look, there are all sorts of bad things coming out. You're going to see young people in some of the states that have exchanges paying more than what they're currently paying in those state exchanges.

So there's a lot of little things we are seeing every day, people being shifted from their jobs, being turned into part-time employees, being shifted from the current insurance companies that they have right now, private insurance. There are a lot of things that need to be fixed.

I have seen -- I don't think it's fair to paint all Republicans with one broad brush. I think to my happy surprise Rand Paul came out, who is a leader of the Republican Party recently, and say, we need to compromise on this. There may be a middle ground.

BOLDUAN: Where is the middle ground then, Stephanie? Because isn't the president opening himself up to the same criticism that he has lobbed at Republicans over the "my way or the highway" approach when it comes to the debt ceiling?

CUTTER: Kate, first of all we have to deal with the government shutdown, which is four days away. So now the Senate will pass a continuing resolution to fund the government without the defunding of Obamacare, send it back to the House. Let's see what the House passes. Because of Ted Cruz, John Boehner, the leader of the House, is painted into a corner.

How is he going to get those Tea Party members to vote for a bill that doesn't have defunding on it? Because that's a major fold for them, that's a major failure so we need to figure out how we're going to fund the government. In terms of the debt ceiling, let's remember, a couple years ago, the president was open to negotiating on the debt ceiling. He wanted to put a fiscal plan in place to reduce deficit in a balanced way.

Days before the government was going to default, John Boehner walked away and to put the government and the economy, the ability to pay our bills, in jeopardy, we got downgraded, our credit rating got downgraded. In terms of open to compromise, there's nobody to negotiate with. John Boehner is not in control of the House caucus. That's controlled by 45 Tea Party members. It's not clear what anything could get through.

So the president is simply saying, I'm not going to play games over our ability to pay our bills, bills that Congress obligated us to. You know, if you have an idea of how to reduce our deficit or improve the health care law, he's open to it. But this is not a negotiation that's going on because there's nobody to negotiate with.

BOLDUAN: But I think one thing we can all agree on is the fact that there is no trust between the White House and Republicans on Capitol Hill.

NAVARRO: Or between the American people and Washington.

BOLDUAN: That's a great point. We've not decided on any middle ground at least here today. That means you'll have to come back so we can keep talking about it. Stephanie Cutter, great to see you. Ana Navarro, always great to see you as well. Thanks so much, guys.

CUOMO: All right, coming up on NEW DAY, former President Clinton gets candid. Find out his thoughts on Iran's new leadership, Russia and dysfunction in Washington. Piers Morgan will join us live for that.

And a Powerball winner says be careful what you wish for, why he says hitting the jackpot wasn't all it's cracked up to be.

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CUOMO: Welcome back to NEW DAY. Mo money, mo problems, at least that's the story for one recent Powerball winner. Wild Willie Seeley became an overnight sensation after sharing in last month's $450 million jackpot. But now he says he's paying a heavy price for winning all that money and turns out he's not alone. Who says so? "EARLY START" co-anchor John Berman that's who.

JOHN BERMAN, ANCHOR, CNN'S "EARLY START": Money can't buy you love, Chris Cuomo. Money can't buy you love. Last week's $400 million Powerball winner is still choosing to remain anonymous. I have to say, based on what you hear from a lot of past winners, including Mr. Willie there, that might be a very good idea.

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BERMAN (voice-over): Wild Willie Seeley won hearts across America when he and his co-workers won big in last month's $450 million Powerball jackpot. Each member of the group affectionately dubbed the "Ocean 16" took home almost $4 million each.

WILLIE SEELEY, POWERBALL WINNER: We're very happy, happy, happy, some of my friends would say.

BERMAN: But now just weeks later, Willie says, he's miserable. Telling NBC News it's nonstop drama, his wife even calling the Powerball win a curse. There are days I wish we were back to just getting paid every two weeks. You have to change your whole way of life, but we didn't want to change the way we live. We like the way we live.

Seeley says he's being overwhelmed with calls ranging from long lost relatives to TV executives asking him to star in reality shows. This lottery curse is not so unusual sometimes turning winners into losers. Jack Whitaker won $314 million in 2002. Two years later, his family life was in shambles and he was arrested twice for drunk driving. Abraham Shakespeare of Florida was murdered after winning $31 million.

VICTOR MATHESON, ECONOMICS PROFESSOR AT COLLEGE OF THE HOLY CROSS: When you win $100 million, all of a sudden you're $100 million richer than anyone you know. It makes it hard to keep those old friends and family connections.

BERMAN: Seeley has this advice for the mystery winner of the recent $400 million Powerball. Just disappear. Get lost while you still can.

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BERMAN: Before you feel too sorry for Willie, let me point out a few things here. He quit his job. He bought new cars. He paid off his mortgage. He bought a log cabin and there is also this, he still has no plans to give the money back. That of course is an option. This is all about planning. This is all about people ending up with a windfall of money they didn't expect. Christine Romans, our financial whiz will tell you it's all about planning and investing the right way.

BOLDUAN: Taking the time before you have to go accept money and become public if you have to, have a plan in place -- or disappear as Willie would say.

CUOMO: On the list of problems one can have. I'm sorry. This would be one of the better ones to have to deal with.

BOLDUAN: Exactly. We'll take it. Thank you, John Berman.

CUOMO: There is a solution.

BOLDUAN: Coming up next on NEW DAY, we dare you -- we dare you to not tear up over this one. A military mom comes home from Afghanistan and surprises her daughter on the football field. We'll talk to both of them in our next hour. You're going to love this one.

CUOMO: A story that will make you tear up for a different reason. Miley Cyrus is looking like a top choice for Halloween. We'll tell you what your young girls might be asking you for this Halloween and I will give you a personal tutorial in how to say no.

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BOLDUAN: Need a little something to get you going today? We've got it for you. Welcome back to NEW DAY. It's time for the "Pop Four" and Nischelle Turner.

NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Have we got it for you today, yes, we do. Lots of good ones today, number four, you want to be Miley Cyrus for Halloween, Chris, or you just can't find the right foam finger? Anybody?

PEREIRA: Thinking about it.

TURNER: Listen, if you guys want to do this, Amazon has got you covered. At $14.99 you can complete your costume, get a foam finger and twerk it all night long.

Our number three story, "Breaking Bad" and wardrobe malfunctions. Tina Fey's "SNL" promos have hit the web. They are hilarious. In them, she swears the show will be over in time for "Breaking Bad" on Sunday, no worries and she also make fun of her not so safe moment at the Emmys.

Number two, have you ever thought to yourself, "Homeland" is a great show, but I just wish it had more musical numbers. Well, if you did, the folks over at Above Average Productions agree with you. Their Broadway ready spoof of the show has gone viral. You have to see it. It is hilarious. It really is. There's Carrie and Brody doing their little dance. This is hilarious.

BOLDUAN: I love it.

TURNER: Do you hear that? Are you listening? Do you hear that?

PEREIRA: Hear something in the distance.

TURNER: It's big sigh of relief in California this morning, that's what it is and it's our number story. Governor Jerry Brown signed a law that protects the children of celebrities from the Paparazzi. Here's what's Sandra Bullock who is a celebrity mom, had to say about it when we caught up with her.

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SANDRA BULLOCK, ACTRESS: We are fair game. I get it. Children should be allowed to be children and not be sold. You are taking a picture of a child and selling it. Take pot shots at us, do whatever you want. I am grateful. I am so grateful.

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TURNER: By the way, when we talked to her yesterday, she had her little boy, Louis, with her. She was getting honored at the Chinese Theatre in Hollywood. And she said, I usually don't bring him out because of that reason. He gets scared because he thinks somebody is trying to hurt me and him because there are always so much Paparazzi around.

PEREIRA: Glad that law was passed.

TURNER: I know. Me, too. A lot of people glad this morning.

BOLDUAN: All right, Nischelle, thank you so much.

TURNER: You're welcome.

CUOMO: All right, coming up on NEW DAY, it is not easy to get former President Bill Clinton to talk about certain things, but Piers Morgan got him to comment on just every hot button topic you could think of, Hillary Clinton's plans for 2016, check, his stance on dysfunction in Washington, check, check, all of it from the question master himself when Piers Morgan joins us live.

BOLDUAN: Plus, we are four days away from a potential government shutdown and Congress is facing what could be an even bigger fight at the same time. Remember the debt ceiling? How does this affect you? We'll have more at the top of the hour.

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REPRESENTATIVE PETER KING (R), NEW YORK: If he can negotiate with Putin, he should be able to sit down with John Boehner.

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CUOMO: Countdown to a deadline, a government shutdown looms as Congress prepares for a fight over the debt ceiling. How will it affect your bottom line, ahead?

BOLDUAN: Driven by delusions. Shocking new video this morning showing the Navy Yard shooter prowling the halls as the massacre began and new information about his state of mind.

PEREIRA: Clinton gets candid. Former President Bill Clinton talks with CNN about politics, Putin, guns and Bono. Plus, find out what he says about Hillary's run for the White House and a potential presidency for Chelsea.

CUOMO: Your NEW DAY continues right now.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How dare you take away the one thing that I wanted the most and turn it into something for me to be ashamed of?

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BOLDUAN: Good morning and welcome back to NEW DAY. It's Thursday, September 26th. It's 8:00 in the east. Coming up this hour, a story that we have been following for you, outrage in Montana, a former teacher about to walk out of prison after serving barely a month for the rape of a 14-year-old student. The judge who sentenced him has also been coming under fire for issuing a short sentence and what he also said about the victim during that process.

CUOMO: Then we have a CNN exclusive for you. A young champion ice skater seemingly destined for greatness until, she says, her career derailed by a coach who turned out to be a predator. Again, a story you'll only see here on CNN.

PEREIRA: Break out the tissues this morning. You'll really need them in a good way. You'll watch as a 13-year-old Wisconsin girl is reunited with her military mom. It happens to happen in front of 80,000 football fans. Guess what? You get to meet both mom and daughter live later this hour. Looking forward to that.

CUOMO: But first, Congress has just four days to give President Obama a bill preventing a government shutdown. But even if lawmakers can find a way to keep the government up and running, the battles in Washington are far from over.