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Hong Kong Establishes First Ever Poverty Line; Australian Prime Minister Meets With Indonesian President; `Breaking Bad' Ends; U.S. Government Shutdown Still Looms; Typhoon Wutip Bears Down On Vietnam; NFL Goes To London

Aired September 30, 2013 - 08:00   ET

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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.

Now U.S. lawmakers are deadlocked. And if they fail to come to an agreement, the U.S. government could shut down in less than 24 hours.

We look at how the NSA can build a profile of someone based on their activity on social networks.

And it is the end of one of the most critically acclaimed shows on TV. We'll look at the final moments of Breaking Bad.

Now U.S. lawmakers are playing a partisan game of chicken that is poised to shut down the government.

Now Republicans and Democrats have so far failed to agree on a spending plan. Now President Barack Obama's signature health insurance law is being used as a bargaining chip. Enrollment begins on Tuesday, but House Republicans are trying to defund or delay the program, which is known as Obamacare.

Now supporters refuse to let that happen.

Now remember, Republicans control the House, Democrats control the Senate. And neither side is backing down. Brianna Keilar has more.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the old football strategy.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): House Republicans rallied on the steps of the Capitol, calling on the Senate to come back to work. Inside, a ghost town. Not long after the House GOP passed a bill in the early morning hours on Sunday.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Motion to reconsider is laid on the table.

KEILAR: It funds the government, but delays Obamacare for one year. Now, just hours to go before a deadline for a deal, the first government shutdown in 17 years seems all but certain. The blame game in full swing, with Republicans on preemptive damage control.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R) ,TEXAS: So far, Majority Leader Harry Reid has essentially told the House of Representatives and the American people go jump in the lake.

SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: He is saying 100 percent of Obamacare or the highway. The president is the one saying, I will shut down the government if you don't give me everything I want on Obamacare.

KEILAR: They argued, they budged. Demanding the president's health care program be delayed after initially voting to defund it altogether.

But Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid won't put this latest House passed bill up for a vote and President Obama who met Sunday afternoon with his economic team at the White House has threatened to veto of any measure that delays or defunds Obamacare.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Let me repeat it. That's not going to happen.

KEILAR: The Senate is expected to strip out the Obamacare delay today and send it right back to the House. Meanwhile, the clock is ticking toward midnight when a government shutdown would close national parks, furlough hundreds of thousands of federal workers, and stall new passport applications. There was one area of possible agreement, however. A repeal of attacks on medical devices included in the bill Republicans passed this weekend.

A top Democrat said he was open to the measure, but not with a shutdown looming.

SEN. RICHARD DICK DURBIN (D), ILLINOIS: I'm willing to look at that, but not with a gun to my head, not with the prospect of shutting down the government.

KEILAR: Brianna Keilar, CNN, the White House.

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LU STOUT: So how would the U.S. government shut down? Well, our partners at CNN Money.com break it down for you.

The last shut down was in late 1995 and it last for some 21 days. And this photo gallery shows you what a shutdown looks like. The impact, it was not confined to U.S. borders. These people in Paris found out that they could not apply for a visa because the budget crisis forced the consulate to close.

Now, let's go to Indonesia where at least 36 people have drowned after their boat sank off the coast of West Java. And this tragedy comes as Australia's new prime minister arrived in Jakarta.

Now Tony Abbott has met with President Susilo Bambang Yukhoyono. And discussion between the two leaders focused on asylum seekers. The Australian government wants refugee boats arriving by Indonesia to be turned back by its navy, sparking tension with Indonesia.

Now both countries have vowed to work together to stop people smugglers. Now Anna Coren is in Jakarta. She joins us now live.

And Anna, the two leaders they talked earlier today. What came out of that meeting?

ANNA COREN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, on the surface it certainly appears that they have a very cordial relationship, the Australian prime minister and Indonesian president. They met, as you say, at the presidential palace a short time ago. And you know I think they would have liked to have talked about trade and investment, but it was asylum seekers that was very much at the forefront of these bilateral meetings.

Mind you, this is the first (inaudible) trip that Tony Abbott had taken. And he really played that up, because as we know in recent weeks there have been real tensions between the two countries over Tony Abbott's policy of stopping the boats. Indonesia sees this as an infringement on its sovereignty. Abbott has said that he'll only stop the boats by towing them back into Indonesian waters, but will also buy up Indonesian fishing vessels and pay Indonesians for information about people smugglers.

Well, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, he said that both countries are victims of people smugglers. He also interestingly described asylum seekers as a burden on both countries. So interesting language there, but a very tough stance both from Indonesia and also from Australia, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yeah, bilateral meeting earlier today. This is a two day visit. Trade also to be discussed, but that is being overshadowed by these differences between the two nations over asylum seeker policy.

Anna, will this visit ease the tension between Australia and Indonesia?

COREN: I think it certainly is a positive step. And as far as the cameras concerned, you know, it was all smiles and handshakes. And the discussion was a frank one about asylum seekers, the fact that the country -- both countries, really, need to tackle this problem.

You have to remember that there are desperate people seeking asylum. They are fleeing persecution whether they be ethnic or religious minorities from their countries -- Afghanistan, not Indonesia -- Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, you know, even Somalia, Myanmar, they come here to Indonesia. They get on these boats in the hope of a better life in Australia.

And Kristie we decided to go and visit one of the towns where these asylum seekers come. They congregate in. They think they're only here for a very short time, and in actual fact they end up spending years.

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COREN: Piled in the back of pickup trucks, the bodies of dozens who have drowned at sea, many of them children. It's the latest tragedy off the coast of Indonesia as desperate asylum seekers from countries like Iraq and Afghanistan continue to risk everything in a bid to reach Australia and a better life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We told them, we're sinking. We need anybody to help us.

COREN: These are the first known deaths at sea under the newly elected Australian prime minister Tony Abbott who swept to power vowing to stop the boats.

Abbott is in Jakarta with talks with Indonesian president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono as tensions rise between the two countries on the contentious issue.

TONY ABBOTT, AUSTRALIAN PRIME MINISTER: I have no argument with anyone in the Indonesia establishment or parliament. My argument is with people smugglers. And my point to the people smugglers is the game is up.

COREN: Australia was already in the process of shutting its borders. The previous government warning asylum seekers who arrived by boat without a visa would never be settled in the country.

Here in Chasara (ph), a two hour drive from the Indonesian capital, these asylum seekers are going through legal channels, waiting for UNHCR to process their applications. But it can take years. And there's a very slim chance they'll be relocated to Australia.

SARA ERFANI, AFGHAN ASYLUM SEEKER: Of course everyone who comes here , the destination is clear -- Australia. And I want to go there too. I came here, I hope that I won't be long staying here, because life here is really difficult, especially when you're a woman and you live alone.

COREN: 27-year-old Sarah Erfani arrived from Afghanistan a week ago, paying people smugglers $12,000, a small price she believes for a life not lived in fear.

There are more than 10,000 asylum seekers here in Indonesia officially registered with UNHCR, although the actual number is expected to be much higher. They all came here thinking this would be a short-term stopover on the way to Australia, but even with the new Australian government's hard- line immigration laws, some of these people are still willing to take the ultimate risk.

Like 22-year-old Moustafa (ph) who asks us to hide his identity. The computer science student fled wartorn Afghanistan a few months ago and says he doesn't want to wait any longer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to take this risk. If I go back to Afghanistan, then I will lose my life. I'll lose my life. I'm sure about this.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COREN: Kristie, as you can see desperate people willing to take desperate measures. And, you know, Australia, its quota of asylum seekers that it actually takes in an settles is 20,000. There are concerns, however, that under the Abbott government that that number will be reduced. And that's getting back to - I guess the feeling of the meeting today. Whilst there seems to be cooperation between the two countries, the reality is as long as people are getting on these boats and traveling to Australia. It is going to be a strain on the relationship between Australia and Indonesia.

LU STOUT: Yeah, and that will likely go on. Talks continue tomorrow. Anna Coren giving us the very latest live from Jakarta. Thank you.

Now you're watching News Stream. And still to come, fears for 74 missing people aboard three boats sank in the South China Sea. We'll have the latest on the typhoon that's hitting the area.

Also ahead, Syria is set to address the UN as the team prepares to check on the country's promise to destroy its chemical arsenal.

And the miracles have been established. And now two former popes are set to be canonized. We'll show you just what it takes to become a saint.

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LU STOUT: Welcome back.

Now 74 people are missing in the South China Sea where three boats sank in a powerful typhoon. Now the fishing boats from Guangdong Province sank on Sunday. Chinese state media says 14 people were rescued near the island of Hainan. Strong winds from Typhoon Wutip are whipping up the sea. And this typhoon is forecast to make landfall in Vietnam today.

Now let's get more now on this storm with Mari Ramos. She joins us from the World Weather Center -- Mari.

MARI RAMOS, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Kristie. Those pictures that you were showing us were from Haiku (ph) right there just in the southern portion of China. You can see how high and how terrible those waves were. And the storm was still relatively far away when that happened.

This is where the storm is now. And it is moving into Vietnam even as we speak. It should begin to weaken somewhat as that happens.

I want to go back in time, though, and take you through the historical track of this storm. It was way over here near the Philippines. It has been moving generally toward the west over the weekend.

Referring to those 74 people that are missing. We believe that this is the area where the fishermen went missing near this group of islands right over here. That would make it about 300 kilometers to the south, southeast of Hainan. So it is in an area that is not too far from land, but far away enough where, you know, especially when a Typhoon. And this is the track of the typhoon right over here. It's nearby, you can really run into some serious trouble.

Now, at the time that the fishermen went missing, you can see that the storm was just in this general area right over here. Winds at the time were close to 170 kilometers per hour. And we're estimating the winds based on satellite imagery at 5 to 7 meters. So it really was terrible, terrible situation to be caught up in. And it's really unfortunate that there were those three boats that you mentioned have sank there.

The 14 survivors are still looking for 74 more people. The seas have eased up, of course, as the storm continues to move farther away.

These are some of the rainfall totals -- let's go ahead and roll some of the pictures that we have from that region.

Of course there you see the high seas and high winds, that's from Haiku (ph) as I was telling you. If you can estimate the seas here, like you see how high the water is, but it's hard to see how high the waves actually are. Now, the waves have gone down probably to between 1 to 3 meters depending on the location.

The winds have been very strong, of course. Downed trees, downed power line, huge travel delays and concerns for more flooding and also mudslides.

Wind, I should say rain, have been quite heavy. Over 190 millimeters in Donghoi (ph) and 84 in Hwei (ph).

Come back over to the weather map. This is what it looks like now on satellite. Winds just down to about 165 kilometers per hour, moving inland as we said. The rain spreading all the way down as you can see here. It's a very large storm taking up pretty much the entire region here.

What happens to tropical cyclones when they make landfall in southeast Asia, the tend to dissipate very quickly. Even though a lot of moisture will still be left here, it will probably be a tropical storm within the next couple of hours and then a tropical depression, but it will bring some very heavy rain over those same areas that have been flooded over the last few days.

The wind, this is what it looks like right now in the latest estimate. These are going to be your tropical storm force winds. Those are your typhoon winds. According to that estimate, still over the water.

As far as rainfall -- look at this -- a very heavy rainfall in some of these areas, very significant rain. And then moving into places like Thailand, remember that we have been talking about the flooding in Thailand that has been significant over the last few days, but the heaviest rainfall will be along the coast of Vietnam. 148 is estimated rainfall expected there in Vin (ph).

One more storm I want to tell you about. That's Wutip over there. We have tropical depression 22 here east of the Philippines. We'll watch that. And then, of course, over here, tropical depression 21. So very busy indeed when it comes to tropical activity in this part of the world.

Back to you.

LU STOUT: Very busy. Three storms to watch. Mari Ramos, across it all. Thank you, Mari.

Now Syria will get a chance to address the world when foreign minister Wael Moallem delivers a speech to the United Nations general assembly later today. Now he is set to talk about the Assad regime's pledge to give up its chemical weapons. On Friday, the UN security council passed a resolution requiring Syria to follow through with that promise or face the consequences.

Now meanwhile, UN inspectors are wrapping up their latest visit to Syria where they investigated additional claims of chemical weapons use.

At the same time, a separate team of international specialists is heading to Damascus to oversee the plan to rid Syria of chemical weapons.

Now Jomana Karadsheh is in Abu Dhabi. She joins us now live with more.

And Jomana, tell us about the task ahead for the OPCW.

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, the OPCW, begins its mission in Syria on Tuesday That will be with the arrival of a 20 member team. This is an advanced team of political and technical experts who pretty much will be setting a communications base looking into the logistics of how the operations of the OPCW will be in Syria, preparing for the inspections that will be taking place.

Now there are facing a really, really tough challenge here on a number of levels. One is the deadlines they are facing. The time lines set are really tough for any chemical experts in any mission where they're going to have to basically -- Syria is going to have to destroy all of its facilities that are used for the production and mixing of chemicals by the first of November, in about a month from now.

The other deadline, by the first half of next year, all of Syria's chemical weapons stockpiles must be destroy by then.

So a tough task even made more complicated by the security situation in Syria. It's a very violent and dangerous war zone. The OPCW has told CNN that here are about 50 chemical sites that they need to inspect. Getting to those sites, the logistics of that, in an active war zone is going to be really tough. Some of them in rebel held area, some in contested. It's going to be really hard for them to travel around and to make it to these sites that they need to inspect.

An OPCW official did tell CNN that they might have to amend their mission based on the situation in Syria where they might have to do what they call a quick and dirty operation where what they do is render these chemical weapons unusable rather than destroying them as they usually do.

They will also be looking at potential security being provided by third party troops, not from the OPCW, or from Syria.

LU STOUT: Wow, a daunting task ahead for the OPCW. And Jomana, what about the UN team leaving Syria today, what have they been doing? And what is next for them?

KARADSHEH: Well, as you know, Kristie, the UN investigative team returned back to Syria last week. They continued the mission that they had stopped last month investigating alleged chemical attacks that have taken place in Syria this year. The UN says that a number of allegations have been made. They decided that seven of them were worse looking into and investigating. And this is what this team has been doing.

It's worth noting that three of those alleged attacks are claimed to have taken place within days after that devastating attack in the suburbs of Damascus on August 21st that left hundreds of civilians dead.

So the UN returned into country. They say they have been collecting physical samples, they have been speaking to physicians to alleged victims of these attacks trying to put together the details of these alleged attacks. And they say that their mission remains the same. It's to verify, to establish the facts whether or not these chemical attacks did take place in Syria, not to assign blame.

As you know, both sides in this conflict, the regime and the opposition, have blamed each other for these chemical attacks.

Their comprehensive report, they say, is expected at the end of October.

LU STOUT: all right, Jomana Karadsheh reporting for us live from Abu Dhabi. Thank you.

You're watching News Stream. And still to come, the Vatican says two former popes performed miracles and will become saints. And now we know when they'll be canonized. We'll have more on their path to sainthood coming up.

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LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you're back watching News Stream.

Now the Vatican says pope's John Paul II and John XXIII will be declared saints on April 27 of next year.

Now the canonization of the two popes, it was widely expected. Ben Wedeman has more.

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BEN WEDEMAN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: John Paul II hadn't even been buried when the cries came from the faithful attending his funeral in 2005. Santo subito (ph), short for make him a saint now.

Their call was heard and bypassing the normal five year waiting period, Pope Benedict XVI set in motion the process to canonize his predecessor.

To be named a saint involves a series of steps, but the qualifications are straightforward, says veteran Vatican analyst John Allen.

JOHN ALLEN, CNN VATICAN ANALYST: You put a holy life and two miracles together, according to the Catholic system you've got a saint.

WEDEMAN: John Paul has said to have miraculously cured a French nun, Sister Marie Simone Pierre (ph) suffering from Parkinson's Disease several months after his death.

The church says the second miracle occurred when a Costa Rican woman with a brain aneurysm recovered after praying to John Paul.

Pope John XXIII, revered for his role in the second Vatican council, is only recorded as having performed one miracle after his death in 1963.

ALLEN: So in the case of Pope John XXIII, Pope Francis has decided they're already was a decree of heroic virtue, saying the man had lived a holy life. There already was one miracle certified for his beatification in 2000. So Pope Francis has decided he doesn't have to pass Go and doesn't have to collect $200, he can go directly to sainthood.

WEDEMAN: In fact, canonization by the Catholic church merely formalizes on Earth what is already in place in heaven, Allen points out.

ALLEN: It's not like Karol Wojtyla, John Paul II, will suddenly become a saint when the canonization ceremony occurs. The belief would be he is already in heaven with god living the life of a saint. All that's going to happen when the canonization ceremony occurs is that the church will officially recognize it.

WEDEMAN: Ben Wedeman, CNN, Rome.

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LU STOUT: You're watching News Stream. And still ahead, tough questions in Kenya. Were warnings taken seriously ahead of the Westgate mall terror attack? Intelligence officials go before parliament.

And Hong Kong now has an official poverty line, but what is being done for the people who are living below it?

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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream. And these are your world headlines.

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott is in Indonesia for talks with President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. His visit comes as tensions are rising between the two countries over Australian attempts to turn back refugees coming by sea.

Now talks today have leaders vowed to stop what they called the scourge of people smugglers.

Now 33 people have been killed and more than 100 wounded after a dozen car bombs exploded across Baghdad during Monday morning rush hour. Now police say most of the attacks took place in predominately Shiite areas of the city. Iraq's Sunni-Shiite divide has led to more than 6,000 deaths so far this year.

The retrial of Amanda Knox is now underway in Florence, Italy, though she remains in the U.S. and says that she will not attend the proceedings. Now she and her one-time Italian boyfriend are accused of murdering a British student. Now Knox was acquitted of the crime in 2011 due to a lack of evidence, but Italy's highest court later decided they should be retried.

Top intelligence officials in Kenya are set to be questioned over the handling of the deadly Nairobi mall attack. They go before parliament today. It's been revealed that defense officials were warned as long as a year ago that the terror group al Shabaab posed a threat to several targets, including the Westgate shopping mall.

And as the investigation continues, many in Kenya are struggling to come to terms with the brutality that took place inside the Westgate Mall. And some are taking comfort in prayer. David McKenzie reports.

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DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The Catholic faithful gather inside the Holy Family Basilica to pray. The cathedral has been listed as a possible terror target, so Sister Celestine Teresa was scared, but she still came.

She says she had to pray for people's souls both living and dead.

SISTER CELESTINE TERESA, HOLY FAMILY BASILICA: I do believe that people still have faith in god. And they know that despite anything, despite any other thing that can destroy your life, god is still there for us and is our protection.

MCKENZIE: In Kenya, faith runs deep -- faith that things will get better, that terror won't win. Faith Umburu (ph) wanted to get on with a brand new business renting our her trampoline for children. It took her months to afford after all.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They want to have their normal life. They want to forget what happened so that they can move on.

MCKENZIE: People are still traumatized, but they want to get on with the business of living. Nairobi has lived through terror attacks before, but this attack will take weeks, months, perhaps even years to get over.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are very scared as well as sad, angry also.

MCKENZIE: Vivasnhu Sharma taught at Oswal Academy, the terrorists gunned down three of her young students.

Promsu (ph) excelled at golf. Pavarat (ph) was eight. Nehe (ph) loved to dance.

VIVANSHU SHARMA, OSHWAL ACADEMY TEACHER: Friday I saw her in school and Saturday I got the news she's no more. It's very painful as a teacher.

MCKENZIE: Sharma says she puts on a brave face in class, but the memories of the dead are still too fresh.

David McKenzie, CNN, Nairobi.

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LU STOUT: And now let's turn to the latest revelations about the U.S. government's surveillance program. We're learning more about what the National Security Agency does with the data it collects. A report out in the New York Times, it says that the NSA is creating intricate maps of social connections.

Now the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden provided the paper with the secret documents. And the new disclosures are only adding to the growing concern among privacy advocates.

Now let's bring in CNN's Pamela Brown, she joins us live from New York. And Pamela, tell us more about this NSA social mapping program.

PAMELA BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, according to the New York Times, the social mapping of certain U.S. citizens who officials believe may have a foreign intelligence link has been going on since November of 2010. And as one privacy expert put it, he says that this is a digital equivalent of tailing a suspect.

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BROWN (voice-over): The NSA isn't only tracking metadata from your phone calls and e-mail logs, it's using that information to create a sophisticated web of some U.S. citizens, according to documents leaked to "The New York Times."

KAREN GREENBERG, CENTER ON NAT. SEC., FORDHAM UNIV. LAW SCHOOL: We assume as Americans if somebody, if the government is locking at your information, it's because they have a reason because you are suspected of a crime.

BROWN: This slide from an NSA PowerPoint presentation shows how analysts use software to create diagrams to chart a person's social ties, locations at certain times, their traveling companions and other personal information, according to documents leaked by a former government contractor Edward Snowden.

The policy shift intended to help the agency discover and track when there is a link between an intelligence interest overseas and a U.S. citizen.

The NSA can also draw a material from Facebook profiles, GPS location information, insurance information, property records and other public and commercial sources to better analyze American's phone and e-mail logs.

GREENBERG: Now we know from these leaks that this is how the government is operating, that there is a much broader swath of people that Americans are included in this mix.

BROWN: In a statement, the agency says, "We know there is a false perception the NSA listens to the phone calls and reads the e-mails of every day Americans, aiming to unlawfully monitor or profile U.S. citizens. It's just not the case."

NSA Chief Keith Alexander has said a person's individual data is analyzed only when there is a foreign intelligence justification.

While some argued the NSA efforts are keeping Americans safer, critics say this latest disclosure is yet another example of how the NSA is infringing on American's privacy.

GREENBERG: Americans assume a right to a certain kind of privacy. That usually starts at the door to their home.

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BROWN: And the New York Times says that the documents do not specify how many Americans have been caught up in this effort and how many Americans have actually been involved in any wrongdoing.

Now in the wake of these recent disclosures, Kristie, President Obama has ordered a full review of the NSA's surveillance practices.

Back to you.

LU STOUT: Now this report is incredible. It basically says the NSA is able to map our social ties. So Pamela, what does this mean for users of Facebook and other social media sites out there?

BROWN: Kristie, basically social media is fair game as part of this process. So to augment these communications that the NSA is gathering, they can actually tap into Facebook profiles and other social media profiles to be able to build a more robust profile of an American citizen that officials believe may have a link to a foreign intelligence target, you know, overseas.

So basically, though, if you think about it, you're putting yourself out there on social media, why wouldn't intelligence officials tap that -- tap into that as a resource to help with their policy?

LU STOUT: Yeah, and you've got reaction from the NSA. You folded it into your report. The NSA says that a person's data is analyzed only when there's a foreign intelligence justification. But Pamela, is that even possible? I mean, is there such large-scale analysis taking place that they can't be able to do that?

BROWN: Well, the NSA is saying, look, what we're doing is lawful. This has been going on since November 2010 where they're able to look at the email and phone logs of American citizens if they have that foreign intelligence justification.

So that can include anything from ties to terrorism, weapons proliferation, international drug smuggling, conversations with a foreign diplomat, anything that officials perceive could be an indicator that this U.S. citizen has a tie to someone overseas that they have a special interest in.

But again NSA emphasizing this, there has to be that foreign intelligence justification.

LU STOUT: All right, Pamela Brown reporting live from CNN New York. Thank you.

Now U.S. President Barack Obama, he will sit down at the White House later today with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. And topping their agenda, Iran, Syria and Mideast peace talks.

And while the two leaders look cozy in this picture that took place earlier this year, their relationship has been strained. Netanyahu will likely use the visit to try to dampen any enthusiasm about Iran's new president, Hassan Rouhani. Despite the softer tone from Tehran, Israel remains deeply skeptical of Iran's nuclear intentions.

Now it is clear there's longstanding mutual distrust between Israel and Iran. So it might surprise you that Iran has a thriving Jewish community with deep roots there. Reza Sayah reports.

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REZA SAYAH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: At Abrizami Synogogue (ph), a rabbi leads worshippers in prayer, then a ceremony to celebrate the Jewish holiday of Sukkot.

At Moussa bin Imran (ph) school, the headmaster welcomes an all Jewish student body.

At (inaudible) restaurant, patrons dig into kosher food.

And at this intensive care unit, nurses tend to patients at a charity hospital founded an run by Jews.

Sure, it may seem like we're in Israel, but in fact we're in the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Are you happy in Iran?

CIAMAK MORSADEGH, IRANIAN-JEWISH LAWMAKER: Of course we are happy in Iran.

SAYAH: Ciamak Morsadegh is a Jewish lawmaker in Iran's parliament. In his office, Moses on one wall, Iran's Supreme Leader on the other.

Are you under any pressure to stay in Iran?

MORSADEGH: There is no specific pressure for the Iranian Jew.

SAYAH: Would you prefer to live anywhere else other than Iran?

MORSADEGH: I only prefer to live in Iran.

SAYAH: If you're not familiar with Middle Eastern history you may be surprised to learn roughly 10,000 to 20,000 Jews live in Iran, according to the Jewish community. Most of them born and raised here.

Jews have lived in modern-day Iran dating back to six century BC when Persia's King Cyrus released Jews from Babylonian captivity.

Some estimates show Iran has the second largest Jewish population in the Middle East outside of Israel. Their numbers have declined over the years, mostly because of migration. Those that remain say they face no discrimination from the majority here.

"Here they show a lot of respect for Judaism," says Shahnose Rahanian (ph). "It's better than many other places."

"Everyone here -- the Muslims and the Jews live and work together," says Zariv Setarishanos (ph).

This, despite the Iranian government's bitter rivalry with the Jewish state of Israel.

MORSADEGH: Unfortunately, many of the media invest in countries broadcasting some news about Iran which is much far from the reality.

SAYAH: Morsadegh that rejects allegations that Iran and its government are enemies of Jews.

MORSADEGH: In the history of Iran, you cannot find even one time that there was organized anti-Semitic phenomenon.

SAYAH: Morsadegh says what Iran opposes is the Israeli government's Zionist policies and occupation of Palestinian land.

MORSADEGH: There is a great different between being a Jew and being pro-Israeli Zionist. I think that the behavior of the Israeli regime is not in the direction of Torah and Talmud teachings.

SAYAH: Iranian law says it's illegal for citizens to travel to Israel and come back. But community leaders say the law has yet to be enforced. Some Jews here say they've traveled to Israel, but home remains Iran.

Reza Sayah, CNN, Tehran.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: Now, Hong Kong is considered one of the wealthiest places in the world, but that sparkling sky line, it hides a dark secret. Now the gap between rich and poor has never been bigger. Many people struggle to survive. And now the city has set an official poverty line for the first time ever.

Now one-fifth of the population lives in poverty. That's more than 1.3 million people. Now the government set the line at half the median household income. And before benefits, that's $464 a month for a one person household. Now for two people, it's $993 a month.

Now keep in mind that rent in Hong Kong is quite expensive. This tiny apartment would cost around $300 a month. It's only 28 square feet.

Now the society for community organization says hundreds of thousands of people in Hong Kong live in similar conditions.

Now photographer Benny Lamb (ph) took these bird's eye view images to capture the cramped conditions.

Now public housing in Hong Kong is in short supply. Some people can only afford cage homes. According to the government's figures, one in three elderly people live in poverty. For children, it's one in five.

Now labor and welfare secretary Matthew Cheung spoke to my colleague, Patricia Wu, about how the government plans to help them.

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MATTHEW CHEUNG, HONG KONG LABOR AND WELFARE SECRETARY: But that poverty line makes, Patricia, an important milestone in our effort to alleviate poverty in Hong Kong. We want to build a more caring, compassionate, inclusive society here with a determined to tackle it and tackle it in a determined fashion.

We will approach the problem from various angles. First of all, working poor will be obviously a target. And working poor with children, particularly.

We want to really tackle the problem of intergenerational poverty, social upward mobility very important. Promote employment and promote self-reliance.

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LU STOUT: Now Cheung says chief executive CY Leung is set to announce measures to help the poor by January. As you can see, Hong Kong's poverty rate before government benefits is relatively low compared to other developed economies. But when tax breaks and welfare are taken into account, Hong Kong is among the worst in the OECD.

Now you're watching News Stream. And coming up, after 62 episodes and six years on the air, this U.S. TV hit comes to a close. We'll have more on how fans are coping with the end to Break Bad. Stay with us.

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LU STOUT: Welcome back.

Now they've been around for 450 million years, yet we still know very little about the Great White Shark.

Now scientists are trying to learn more about how they move underwater, but getting close to a great white is not easy. Now Nick Glass finds out how researchers are doing it on this week's Art of Movement.

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NICK GLASS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We're on board and expedition with OCEARCH to learn more about the movements of the Atlantic Great White Shark. All morning, a helicopter had been scanning the sea and they had news for the team on board the Contender.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, Norman, go ahead, this is the Contender.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (inaudible) I've got one very close to the beach.

GLASS: Finally, it took the bait.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It just ate it, just ate it.

Get it all together.

GLASS: Back on board the OCEARCH, the excitement was mounting. Suddenly, we could see a shark fin and the fish being brought to us.

The scientists have just 15 minutes to attach tags and carry out tests. She was given an ultrasound. Blood and tissue samples were taken. She was weighed and measured: 2,300 pounds, 14 foot, 2 inches long.

A GPS tag was drilled and bolted to the side of her dorsal fin. And something called an accelerometer attached to the base.

She's only the fifth shark ever to be fitted with one.

NICK WITNEY, SCIENTIST, OCEARCH: It's basically giving us every single movement the shark makes on a second by second basis. So we can tell the tale beats. We can tell how strongly they're beating their tale, how quickly they're beating their tale.

GLASS: At Harvard University in Boston, we got a more detailed explanation of why sharks are such brilliant swimmers.

PROF. GEORGE LAUDER, HARVARD UNIVERSITY: Now this shark here, if you feel the surface of the shark, you can feel the roughness. It's smoother in one direction and it's a little more rough in this direction.

Sharks are...

GLASS: It does feel like sandpaper.

LAUDER: It does feel like sandpaper. And the surface structures that you're feeling are quite small. They're about the thickness of human hair, each individually like the human tooth. They're made of dentine. They have enamel. They have a pulp cavity. So your teeth actually are made with the same genes that makes the individual bumps on the surface of a shark.

A shark with a roughened surface structure will swim through the water with less drag than a shark that was absolutely smooth.

GLASS: You could say that in a sense Great Whites are pretty much all teeth.

You can see thousands and thousands of television documentaries about the Great White Shark, but nothing, absolutely nothing prepares you for this, to actually see one in the flesh and that this distance.

They're about to put it back in the water.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This shark is named Catherine.

Good luck, old girl.

GLASS: Catherine didn't want to swim out the way she came in. So she was coaxed around by the tail, slipped way with $10,000 worth of scientific equipment attached.

In the past month alone, she's been circling Cape Cod, covering almost 200 miles. Where she goes next is a mystery, but we will find out. Every move she makes, every dive she takes, someone will be watching her.

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LU STOUT: Wow, Catherine quite a ferocious beauty there.

You're watching News Stream. And still to come, a final session with the meth making anti-hero Walter White. The acclaimed U.S. TV show Breaking Bad airs its last episode. And we'll see how the online world reacted to its surprise ending.

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LU STOUT: Welcome back.

Now on Sunday, the Minnesota Vikings took on the Pittsburgh Steelers in an NFL game with a difference: it took place in London. Now Jim Boulden spent the whole day taking in the big game atmosphere.

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JIM BOULDEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: With just a few hours to go before the kickoff between the Minnesota Vikings and the Pittsburgh Steelers, fans have been gathering for hours and it's really buzzing here because they're doing what Americans do well, which is tailgating. That means a lot of eating and a lot of drinking hours before the game starts.

Though this time around, for the seventh annual NFL regular season game here, fans have to deal with the fact that both teams have yet to win a game. They've had to fly all the way here to London to try to win their first game. And we asked a few fans where they've come from and why they're here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're the Purple Pimps. We're the official unofficial mascots of the Minnesota Vikings. We go to all the games home and away. And we're from the Twin City so we're hear to support the Vikings in London.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm a Kiwi. I want to show the British that the real game is not rugby or football, it's American football.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We love this game. And we came straight here just to watch this game. It's a big opportunity for us.

BOULDEN: Both the Minnesota Vikings and the Pittsburgh Steelers came here to London's Wembley stadium desperate for a win. Neither had been able to win a game this season. And going 0-3 was a terrible way for these teams to start. However, this game turned out to be engrossing, very close right up to the end. Big Ben, the quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers able to march the team down the field, but unable to score at the very end.

The Minnesota Vikings walk away with their first win of the season. Pittsburgh goes back with a very long trip 0-4.

The players said that they had a great time in London. The Minnesota Vikings were the host team, so they've been here for the past week.

JARED ALLEN, MINNESOTA VKINGS: They did a great job of cheering when they were supposed to, you know. And we had a good representation with the home crowd. And I mean, again, it was -- it felt like we were at an NFL football game.

JEROME SIMPSON, MINNESOTA VIKINGS: They definitely know about American football, you know. Especially -- you can just tell by this crowd, you know, how into it -- in the game they were. They were cheering for both teams. They were doing the wave like in America. I mean, it was just awesome just to be -- it was just to be in this environment and around these people.

ANTONIO BROWN, PITTSBURGH STEELERS: It's amazing. Great fans, great support, amazing stadium. High energy crowd. And it was a blessed opportunity to come out and experience it.

BOULDEN: Well, that was certainly one of the closests of the NFL games here in London. And you could argue one of the most exciting.

But the NFL has a chance to do it all over again. Next month, the Jacksonville Jaguars will host the San Francisco 49ers, the first time the NFL will have two regular season games here in London.

Jim Boulden, CNN, Wembley Stadium.

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LU STOUT: And staying in London, about 30 tourists saw more of the city than they had planned on Sunday when the amphibious vehicle they were in caught fire in the Thames river. Now everyone managed to jump to safety.

Now the bright yellow tour boats, called ducks, they were converted from crafts used in World War II. And while authorities are investigating, the boat's operator has stopped running the tours.

Now the last ever episode of Breaking Bad aired on U.S. television on Sunday. The crime drama about a chemistry teacher who turns to the world of drugs to provide for his family, it found a global audience and critical acclaim.

Now the ending was shocking and prompted a pretty strong reaction from critics and fans. So, how did they take it? Niscelle Turner has the roundup. And a warning, this does contain an ending spoiler.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It should make one hell of a story.

NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Indeed it did. "Breaking Bad" cooked up quite an ending. The chemistry teacher turned meth maker was busy in the finale, as always Walter White took care of his family.

BRYAN CRANSTON, ACTOR: I earned it and you're going to give it to my children.

TURNER: And took care of his enemies. Even White's ex-partner Jesse got to settle a score. In the final moments, White, the man also known as Heisenberg was shot and died, fittingly in a meth lab. Critics loved the ending and it seems many fans did, too, from Facebook to Twitter, everyone was talking.

CRANSTON: I liked it.

TURNER: Famous folks liked it, too. Jimmy Fallon called the finale, tight, tight, tight. Ellen DeGeneres tweeted no more murderous drug dealers and horrifying criminals, I miss it already. Zach Brett joked "I can't believe Walt was a woman the whole time, awesome ending." Hard core fans celebrated in style at finale watching parties across the country.

Show creator Vince Gillian and the cast even got into the spirit at a charity screening and Q&A in Hollywood.

VINCE GILLIGAN, CREATOR, "BREAKING BAD": We knew we needed to dot all the I's and cross all the T's and we needed resolution.

TURNER: Resolution is something that's often alluded in TV finale. The "Lost" finale left a lot of questions unanswered and we still don't know what to make of "The Soprano's" cut to black.

But when "Mash" wrapped up 30 years ago, there wasn't a dry eye in the homes of more than one hundred million view viewers. "Breaking Bad" was seen by far less but leaves the stage burning white hot in the public's imagination, with high ratings and the best drama Emmy win.

CRANSTON: It's over. And I needed a proper good-bye.

TURNER: Mr. White, I'd say you got one.

Nischelle Turner, CNN, New York.

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LU STOUT: Now the last episode of Breaking Bad is called Felina (ph). And that led to theories about what that could mean.

Now one theory was that Felina (ph) was a reference to chemical elements: iron, lithium and sodium, or blood, meth and tears. Now there are plenty of other more complicated theories out there.

But the simplest one may be this, Felina (ph) is an anagram of Finale.

And that is News Stream. But the news continues at CNN. World Business Today is next.

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