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Stocks Fall On Debt Ceiling Fears; Shutdown Standoff: DC Still Deadlocked; One Of Men Involved In SUV Attack Charged With Gang Assault; Nine-Year-Old Exposes Glaring Security Breaches At Airport; U.S. Captures "Most Wanted" Al Qaeda Suspect

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ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: OUTFRONT next, the markets tank again. Is the shutdown debt ceiling fight about to be as catastrophic as Obama administration officials are saying? A reality check. And then two terror raids with two very different results. What caused a Navy SEAL team, the most elite in this country, to abort its mission? Has it changed the way the United States is fighting terror? And a nine- year-old sneaks onto a plane headed for Vegas without a ticket. Where was he going and why? And with all the TSA security that we all go through, how in the world did he get away with that? Let's go OUTFRONT.

And good evening, everyone. I'm Erin Burnett. OUTFRONT on this Monday night, we begin with breaking news. Stocks fall as the debt ceiling deadline looms. The government shutdown continues. No there is no end in sight. The Dow Jones Industrial average hit a one-month low today, yes, still significantly after the year, an important caveat. But it fell nearly 1 percent. Some say that could get a lot worse as this deadline approaches. So what happens if Congress fails to meet the October 17th debt ceiling deadline?




UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Very dangerous.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A nuclear bomb.



BURNETT: Nuclear bomb, cataclysmic, Armageddon, you've all heard those words again and again and again. Brent Wilsey is president of Wilsey Asset Management. Brent, I mean, obviously, this is a bad thing. Nobody wants it to happen. Downgrades could happen for this country. I mean, there's a lot of negative, but cataclysm, Armageddon, all of these words, are they accurate?

BRENT WILSEY, PRESIDENT, WILSEY ASSET MANAGEMENT: You know, I'm sitting here listening to that. I'm thinking, my gosh. That's so farfetched. That makes no sense to me at all. There could be some problems, but not to that magnitude. Gosh, we're the strongest country in the world. Yes, if there's some chance we do default, there could be some problems, but no nuclear war, no Armageddon. That sounds terrible. That's not going to happen.

BURNETT: What do you think is the most likely scenario? I mean, part of it is, as you say, everyone knows the United States will figure it out. Where else are people going to put money? The interest rate has actually gone down.

WILSEY: Right. And Wall Street's doing very well. We've got to look at businesses doing very well, strongest balance sheets ever. Washington is, you know, having some problems. We will come up with a solution. And the market even now is more forgiving than it has been in the past. Wall Street's feeling pretty good about a solution. It's going to happen maybe, just a slight chance of passing the October 17th deadline.

If it happens, the world's not going to come to an end, but what happens to negotiations. I'm going to wait till the very end to make a deal with you. That's what's happening. I think Wall Street's feeling pretty good that we will have a solution by October 17th.

BURNETT: All right, well, Brent Wilsey, thank you very much, sort of a dose of reality there which just seems very much needed because yes, this is important. It's a crisis. It shouldn't happen, but Armageddon, cataclysm, these perhaps are words which are not accurate.

Well, our second story OUTFRONT, a lot of people are saying John Boehner should just call a vote. It's just here's the money. There's no Obamacare attached. There is no what, we hate the alligators attached. Boehner says no way. Not only does he not want to, but he says he does not have the votes to put this in front of the House.

Today President Obama says prove it, John. So who's right? By CNN's calculations at least right now John Boehner is the winner, ding ding. Obama at least three vote short tonight, but that could change. It could change very fast.

Dana Bash is on Capitol Hill. Dana, is either side about to budge?

DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Erin, it tells you everything you need to know that when the White House signals even the slightest wiggle room, even if it's not on anything Republicans are demanding, it's taken as potential news and parsed. But that's what happens when two sides are so entrenched on twin economic crises.


BASH (voice-over): The government has been shut down since last week. The country could default next week and the president and the House speaker spent the day talking past each other.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: The reason that Speaker Boehner hasn't called a vote on it is because he doesn't apparently want to see the government shutdown end at the moment.

REPRESENTATIVE JOHN BOEHNER (R), HOUSE SPEAKER: The president had us all down at the White House last week only to remind me that he was not going to negotiate over keeping the government open or over the looming need to increase the debt limit.

BASH: Let's start with the debt ceiling deadline just ten days away. The White House signalled some flexibility on timing. The president's spokesman said they prefer to raise the dead ceiling for a year but could accept shorter.

JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: We're not saying that that can be any particular length of time.

BASH: But timing isn't that relevant if the president insists he won't negotiate anything as a condition to raising the debt ceiling.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: We're not going to negotiate under the threat of further harm to our families.

BASH: And the House speaker says any hike in the debt ceiling must include talks on issues directly related to the nation's debt like entitlement reform. In an attempt to make the president look unreasonable, some 20 times Sunday John Boehner said all he wants is a conversation.

BOEHNER: We are interested in having a conversation about how we open the government and how we'd begin to pay our bills. It begins with a simple conversation.

BASH: On the government shutdown, seven days in, still no end in sight. The president taunted the speaker for refusing to have a vote to reopen the federal government.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: If Republicans` and Speaker Boehner are saying there are not enough votes then they should prove it.

BASH: That in response to Boehner insisting the votes are not there.

BOEHNER: There are not votes in house to pass a clean CR.

BASH: But some of Boehner's rank and file Republicans disagree.

(on camera): Do you agree with that?

REPRESENTATIVE CHARLIE DENT (R), PENNSYLVANIA: With respect to the speaker, I do not agree with that. I believe that if a clean C.R. were put on the House floor that it would likely pass more than 218 votes. I believe it would pass.

BASH (voice-over): Two hundred Democrats trying to call Boehner's bluff signed a letter demanding a vote on a no strings attach bill to fund the government. That would mean 17 Republicans would have to defy their leadership.

(END VIDEOTAPE) BASH: CNN has done our own count on whether a clean bill funding the government would pass. Our team identified 200 Democrats and 14 Republicans who have publicly stated they would vote on a clean bill. But as you heard from House Republican Charlie dent, there are likely more Republicans who would vote yes if given the opportunity, but they are not going to take the political risk of saying so.

Multiple sources say the John Boehner has no intention to bring that clean bill to fund the government. One told me that the conservative backlash would be God awful. Another said that would be the end of his speakership -- Erin.

BURNETT: All right, Dana, thank you very much. The end of his speakership or God awful, former adviser to Bill Clinton, Paul Begala, executive editor of "The Daily Beast," John Avlon and the former spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, Terry Holt.

So Terry, let me start with you because you heard Dana talking about John Boehner, whether he's going to bring this to the floor. You know john boehner. What do you think is in his head? Would he bring it to the floor three votes short? Would he bring it if he had all the votes or would he not?

TERRY HOLT, FORMER SPOKESMAN FOR REPRESENTATIVE JOHN BOEHNER: Almost every media outlet over the past 24 hours has tried to count noises in the House of Representatives, and I think there are probably two guys in the house laughing at this, one is the majority whip, and the minority whip, and both of those guys know that nobody's got a perfect count, not even them.

I think this is the president doing more brinksmanship and the House is going to work its will. Boehner's saying something pretty simple here. We've got to pay our bills. We've talked about entitlement rye form. More spends cuts. The president doesn't want to do anything and the House want to try and control spending. It's pretty simple.

BURNETT: The way I see it is nobody wants to compromise on anybody. Compromise is a word that's no longer used in Washington. It's become principle.

JOHN AVLON, EXECUTIVE EDITOR, "THE DAILY BEAST": Compromise is the new third rail of politics in Washington. It's a sick situation. I mean, this isn't a game as the speaker said earlier today, but if you could pass a clean resolution and end this tomorrow, if you're only three votes short, why not put it forward? They could whip those votes if they wanted to.

The reality is everyone has invested in the brinksmanship right now because the real deadline is now the debt ceiling. You're seeing a lot of conservative voices do their whole debt ceiling denial dance saying it's not a big deal if we go over the cliff. Watch out, folks, this is getting more serious.

HOLT: The left is saying it's a cataclysm saying the world is going to end. This presidency has become the Chicken Little presidency where if we don't do it his way we're going to go straight to h-e double toothpicks. Give me a break --

BURNETT: Paul, let me ask you though because it's interesting, you know, we just a market expert. Obviously, there are experts who think that using words like cataclysmic are not appropriate. That investor just said no. That those words are hyperbolic and not fair, it raises the question, that's on the debt ceiling, but what about the shutdown?

There are serious problems with the shutdown and serious injuries happening to a lot of people. But you know, the media notices the Amber Alert web site isn't working, it goes back up. Ninety percent of the civilian Department of Defense employees are now back working. If the government was really shut down, there wouldn't be money to do all of this, so it does create this atmosphere of maybe they oversold this. It was supposed to be the end of the world, and it's not. So maybe the debt ceiling won't be the end of the world.

PAUL BEGALA, CNN POLITICAL CONTRIBUTOR: I have to defer to experts on this. I saw Warren Buffett saying it would be a nuclear bomb. I've never heard the guy you interviewed --

BURNETT: The thing is, if you're not going to put it in Treasuries, you've got to find someplace else and right now on this planet, there really isn't anywhere else.

BEGALA: Well, pass the debt ceiling. Let your kids play baseball in the middle of a crowded street. Maybe they won't get hit by a car. It's preposterous, crazy, walking into a risk that we don't need to have. In both worlds, there is a four-year phrase bond is your bond. John Boehner promised, if Reid would do that, he would put that bill with those Republican spending cuts on the floor. John Boehner has reneged. He's gone back on his word. That's a terrible thing to say about him, but it's true.

BURNETT: This whole Obamacare issue, we actually caught up with Kathleen Sebelius, Health and Human Services secretary, asked whether the health care law should be delayed because there have been some glitches. There's been some coverage but not a lot because the whole coverage has been about the shutdown.


KATHLEEN SEBELIUS, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SECRETARY: Actually, it shouldn't be delayed at all. We have a 26-week open enrolment period. We're thrilled with the interest, the call center is up and running. The web site is getting better by the day. Wait times are way down. So we are thrilled with the interest that people are showing.


BURNETT: Our producers called today, John, to register on the national line. We got through in a couple minutes so there wasn't any problem. I mean, what if voters start seeing Obamacare working? I mean, it only needs to work a little bit to be perceived as better than Republicans have portrayed it.

AVLON: Yes, that's one of the dangers of apocalyptic rhetoric in general, right? If something isn't the end of civilization people think maybe this isn't so bad. The debt ceiling is an objective, you know, cliff. And, you don't need the horsemen of apocalypse galloping down the Main Street. It is a self-inflected wound that would absolutely kill our credibility as a country. So it's nothing to play chicken with. You've heard the chorus saying it's nothing but kabuki. That is dangerous stuff.

BURNETT: I wish those who take it seriously would talk like you do though instead of using those hyperbolic words because as you point out, if it's not a nuclear bomb, people say, it's not that bad. And that would be unfair. All right, thanks very much to all three of you. Appreciate it.

Still OUTFRONT, we have more details about why a Navy SEAL team aborted a mission to capture a terror suspect? Does it change the way the United States fights terror. We have a special report in exactly what happened there this weekend.

Plus the latest from the joyride that resulted in a confrontation between bikers and a driver of a SUV. There were cops there, multiple cops in the group, but they didn't do anything?

And then a monster truck lost control with deadly consequences. We'll show you the video of exactly what happened here. You've seen this on TV and wondered could it happen, it did?

And then the "Breaking Bad" ending you did not see.


BURNETT: Our third story OUTFRONT tonight, a new arrest in the violent confrontation between a group of bikers and a SUV. Police tell CNN tonight that one of the men who chased down the SUV and assaulted the driver last weekend has now been charged with gang assault, among other charges.

But this development comes as we are learning new information about something shocking. How many undercover officers - plural -- took part in that motorcycle ride, and why didn't they do anything?

Susan Candiotti is OUTFRONT. Susan, first, what do we know about the person who has now been arrested?

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, this just happened. He's 29 years old, he's from Brooklyn. His name is Craig Wright. And police are now saying he used his fist to punch out the window, that he used his fist, helmet and feet to hit and strike and beat Alexander Lien - Alexian Lien, who was the driver of the SUV -- after pulling him out of the vehicle.

And we've also learned that this biker pleaded guilty last year to operating his motorcycle without a license. So he's got a lot of things going on. He's supposed to be in court tonight for his first appearance.

BURNETT: In court tonight. CANDIOTTI: That's right.

BURNETT: All right. Now, obviously, when you list those things in this violent confrontation, even though of course, as we know, the driver also did run over some bikers, so there's that part of it. But what about this revelation, that there were police, multiple police, who were in the gang undercover. Were they just in the gang on their free time? Were they actually working? Why didn't they do anything?

CANDIOTTI: I mean, these are the questions we all want to know. We know now that there were at least two undercover off-duty - and that's the key thing - off-duty detectives that were part of that rally. And at least one of them witnessed the assault.

So the question is, if they were off-duty -- it doesn't matter if they were on duty or off-duty. Quite frankly, everyone wants to know, regardless, if you see something, why wouldn't you say something right then and there? Or if you didn't want to blow your cover, as one of them as allegedly said, why not report it later on that night or when you left the rally?

BURNETT: Which they didn't for days.

CANDIOTTI: Four days. Four days went by. So we're waiting for an explanation for all that. Internal Affairs investigating; these guys are on desk jobs while everything is straightened out.

BURNETT: All right. Susan Candiotti, thank you very much. Amazing. There are now more questions coming out of that awful attack.

OUTFRONT next, serious questions tonight about airline security. A nine-year-old boarded a flight to Las Vegas without a ticket. Why? And most important, how?

And then the controversy over the Washington Redskins name has gone up a notch. President Obama, in the middle of a debt crisis, has weighed in. Even some of his allies say that could have been a mistake.

And in our "Shoutout" tonight, robber versus machete.

Plus, as we've said, the "Breaking Bad" ending you did not see but you will see here on CNN.


BURNETT: Our fourth story OUTFRONT is a glaring security breach. Tonight, the Transportation Security Administration considering changing its security checkpoints at one of the Midwest's busiest airports. A nine-year-old boy snuck past several layers of security, actually got on a flight from Minneapolis to Las Vegas. He had no ticket, he found an empty seat, he sat down. No problem.

The trip is now raising questions, as it should, about security in America's airports. And George Howell has this OUTFRONT investigation.


GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This is where it all started. A nine year old boy walked off a light rail car Thursday and into the Minneapolis airport with plans to travel, but no ticket. He passed through the security checkpoint, TSA screening, no problem.

Then he continued on to the G concourse, specifically here at gate G- 4. But it's still unclear exactly how he got past the ticket agent who was collecting tickets here.

What we do know is this minor did board Flight 1651 and traveled some 1,300 miles to Las Vegas. Officials say it wasn't until the flight crew became suspicious because he was traveling alone and contacted Las Vegas metropolitan police who took the child into custody upon landing.

But some believe this incident raises bigger questions about security as a whole.

AARON COHEN , NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERT: When a child can pass through unticketed, it means that a child from another country could be used as well to be able to further whatever that terrorist organization's agenda is. And in terms of tactics, it specifically means using somebody who's low-key or low profile.

HOWELL: While no one would talk on camera, we did get a lot of statements. First, from the TSA, essentially saying they did their jobs. Quote, "The child was screened along with all other passengers to ensure he was not a threat to the aircraft." And then Delta. Quote, "Delta is taking this incident very seriously and working with authorities in the investigation. Due to the fact that it involves a minor, we are not commenting further at this time." For the traveling public who know the rigorous routine of airport screening --

ROSE MANFREDI, AIRLINE PASSENGER: And we have to go through taking off our shoes, go through the belt, go to the thing.

HOWELL: -- it's a mystery how a child could have slipped through the cracks.

GORDON SELINGER, AIRLINE PASSENGER: I'm quite surprised that he got through security and all the things that we as adults have to go through.


HOWELL: There is some new information. According to the Henepin (ph) County attorney's office here in Minneapolis, we've learned that prosecutors in Las Vegas plan to meet Tuesday to discuss the child's status. Now it's unclear exactly what they mean by status. They won't elaborate on that. But fair to say the nine year old remains in Las Vegas tonight. Erin?

BURNETT: All right, George. Thank you.

And OUTFRONT, new information about two raids on terrorists by American forces. Now, one of them was successful and one not. So, what did Navy SEALs see that caused them to abort the mission? We have new news coming in on that at this hour.

And then an OUTFRONT investigation. Why was this man beaten by five police officers? He was not armed. Race doesn't seem to be a factor. So what was? We have an investigation.

And this weekend's disturbing Indy crash is raising serious questions about safety.

Plus, as we told you: that ending to Breaking Bad.


BURNETT: And welcome back to the second half of OUTFRONT.

Indy car driver Dario Franchitti is being treated at a Houston hospital for a concussion, two spinal fractures, and a fracture to his right ankle. This is after a collision with another car sent him into a wall in the last lap of the Grand Prix in Houston. It's pretty incredible, frankly, that he survived. The crash was so violent it sent debris into the stands and injured 13 people who were there, the spectators.

Now, IndyCar is reviewing the incident. It says reviewing the risks of racing is one of their highest priorities. Of course, it was just eight months that an accident at the NASCAR race injured 28 fans. Even with football, it seems, fans like sports that carry risk of injury to the players.

Well, the process of destroying Syria's chemical weapons has gun. This is the story that's kind of gone under the radar, but the U.N.- backed organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons says that Syrian personnel used cutting torches or angle grinders to destroy or disable a range of items. This included missile warheads, aerial bombs, and mixing and filling equipment. I know this comes about six weeks after the chemical weapons attack in which 1,400 people were killed.

Our Mohammed Jamjoom reports this is just the first phase of the project. It's expected to continue until at least halfway through next year, which obviously would be even an optimistic time frame to get rid of those chemical weapons by many expert opinions.

Well, we are learning more tonight about the events that led to the death of Miriam Carey, the woman who led Washington police in a car chase with her 1-year-old daughter in the car. Police report just released shows a Secret Service officer attempted to block her Carey's Infiniti with a bike rack when she first refuse to stop at a check point. Carey hit the rack, as can you see, and then knocked the officer to the ground. In her attempt to flee police, Carey actually twice was in reverse, and officers now say it was the second time she reversed when officers fired several rounds into her vehicle. And that was when she was killed by the bullets that did take her life.

Well, "Gravity," the outer space thriller starring Sandra Bullock and George Clooney set an October opening weekend record, raking in $55.6 million. That made back more than half of the film's budget. So I think it's safe to say that one will end in the green.

People seem over the moon about it. Some scientists, though, are criticizing the film's accuracy. Details like the shuttle's velocity vector. I went and saw it. It was mostly about the 3D. I didn't know you were supposed to believe everything or anything in it.

But anyway.

Paul (INAUDIBLE) of research company (INAUDIBLE) tells us moviegoers don't care what scientists say about a movie's credibility. Just look at "Armageddon" and "Independence Day." I guess that's it's called science fiction. It's entertainment. We know that it lies.

Anyway, our fifth story OUTFRONT: targeting terror. The U.S. launched two high stakes raids this weekend on major terror suspects in Africa. The first was in Somalia. Navy SEAL Team Six, that, of course, the SEAL team that captured and killed Osama bin Laden was forced to abandon its mission. They got involved in a firefight while trying to capture the leader of al Qaeda-linked group al-Shabaab.

Now, the second attack was in Libya where an Army Delta Force ambushed and captured an al Qaeda operative wanted since the 1998 embassy bombings of American embassies in which 224 people were killed.

Jim Sciutto is OUTFRONT with his capture story.


JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Abu Anas al Libi was swooped up in minutes, but his legal case will likely stretch out for months, even years. It all began here early Saturday morning in broad daylight in downtown Tripoli, al Libi is snatched by members of elite U.S. Delta Force.

Al Libi's wife who spoke exclusively with CNN's Jomana Karadsheh said it happened as he returned from morning prayers.

UMM ABDUL RAHMAN, WIFE OF ABU ANAS AL LIBI (through translator): I rushed to the window after hearing a sound. I saw a Mercedes type minivan outside the house with a number of masked men and unmasked men around it. They were carrying pistols with silencers.

SCIUTTO: But she said not a single shot was fired.

RAHMAN: Everything happened rapidly. They grabbed him and shoved him in the car. I saw them doing this and heard them saying get in. I wasn't sure if that was my husband. The cars then sped off like a rocket.

SCIUTTO: Al Libi is now on a U.S. Navy ship in the Mediterranean. And he may stay there for days or weeks before he is expected to be taken to New York where he faces indictment for his alleged role in the 1998 embassy bombing in Kenya. What now? U.S. intelligence officers are likely interrogating al Libi before he steps on to U.S. soil and into the American legal system, with all of its constitutional protection, including the right to a lawyer.

STEPHEN VLADECK, AMERICAN UNIV. LAW PROFESSOR: There is flexibility for the government here. And the real question is just where the line is and at what point we switch from military detention to civilian criminal prosecution.

SCIUTTO: The likely years away, a civilian criminal trial would mark one of the first prosecutions of a senior al Qaeda leader in a U.S. federal court, a path President Obama vowed to pursue when he took office. Still, some lawmakers argue suspected terrorists belong in military courts, the strategy adopted by President Bush.

REP. PETER KING (R), NEW YORK: I wish he was being tried in Guantanamo rather than the southern district of New York.


BURNETT: All right. Jim, a big debate is brewing now over where he should be tried. I remember the last time there was an effort to have a trial in New York and huge outrage didn't happen.

So, what does the administration say about criticism by Peter King?

SCIUTTO: Well, the numbers are in the administration's favor because since 9/11, you've had nearly, or actually more than 400 prosecutions of terror-related cases in the federal court in the U.S. with about a 90 percent conviction rate. And during that same time period, you've only had seven successful convictions in military courts.

So, the federal courts have proven a much more efficient way of the prosecuting terrorism related cases. And they seem to manage the key issues -- safety as well as concerns about the exposure of intelligence issues. That said, there's still very much a political hot-button issue, as you mentioned, the last time they tried to try one of the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, one of the al Qaeda masterminds in southern district. There was an uproar and they weren't able to do that.

BURNETT: Right. And that's the one obviously I was thinking of. But what about the mission in Somalia? You know, SEAL Team 6, and we hear that. That's sort of the storied name, right, at least in kind of popular culture, once people think of the team that captured Osama bin Laden. Do you know what really went wrong?

SCIUTTO: Well, this is what we're being told by U.S. officials today. SEAL Team 6 went there and, it also shows that these operations, even with the best teams are still very risky and difficult to carry out. They got close to the compound. They can see their target even through the windows, but as they engaged gunfire, more resistance as than they expected. And as that was happening, they could see children in their sight. So, this is a compound that has families in it and has wives and kids. And the SEAL team commanders made the decision that if they return that fire aggressively, they might have killed some of those kids, and they didn't want to have that. They thought it was too much of a risk. So, they pulled back.

They had another -- so the assault team is the one that went in there. They had other teams that were able to take them out. And they were able to take them out safely.

BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much, Jim Sciutto.

Our sixth story OUTFRONT is a police beating caught on the tape. The Atlantic City mayor is asking for investigations, into allegations of specific force by the Atlantic City Police Department -- and I want to warn you, because we've looked at this video because it's actually disturbing.

In it, you're going to be able to see a 20 year old man, Daniel Castellani in altercation with five police. He was kicked out of a casino called the Tropicana for being under age. But what prompted this altercation that turned so horribly violent? Jason Carroll is OUTFRONT with the investigation.


JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Surveillance video shows what happened minutes after the Tropicana Casino kicked Connor Castellani out for being under age. The 20-year-old is surrounded by at least five Atlantic City police officers in the early morning hours of June 15. His hands behind his back and then, he empties his pockets.

Minutes later, he walks away. It all seems fairly routine. Castellani crosses the street, yelling at police. One minute later, still yelling, officers still holding back.

Then about 1:40 into it, officers have had enough. It takes four officers to wrestle him to the ground. For the next 45 seconds, they knee and strike Castellani with batons, as they try to handcuff him.

A fifth officer arrives.

DAVID CONNOR CASTELLANI, ALLEGES POLICE BRUTALITY: I was basically rolling up in a ball. I said I wasn't resisting that. I told them and they continue to beat me.

CARROLL: You can see at this point on the tape, officers have managed to get Castellani on his stomach, one hand almost behind his back. Five seconds later, a K-9 officer pulls up, Jumps out of the car and immediately sets the dog on him.

CONNOR CASTELLENI: When the dog chomped on the back of my head, I was receiving blows on the back of my head with a fist.

CARROLL: Police arrested Castellani, charging him with resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and aggravated assault on an officer and a canine. Hospital pictures show he needed 200 stitches to close his wounds and multiple dog bites on his head and neck.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I walked into the room and I was shackled to the bed by his feet. He was, looked like he was in shock. He was bleeding and oozing everywhere.

DAVID CASTELLANI, FATHER: Worst thing a parent could possibly experience.

CARROLL: Then, Castellani's parents saw the surveillance tape.

THERESA CASTELLANI, MOTHER: I just was numbed. I actually went home and got sick. It was really, really terrible.

CARROLL: The Castellanis are suing the Atlantic City Police Department, as well as the city.

JENNIFER BONJEAN, ATTORNEY: I think it is one of the most egregious examples of excessive force, police brutality I have ever seen.

You can't just bum rush somebody who's said something offensive to you.

CARROLL: The Castellanis point to court records which show that K-9 officer involved had 15 prior complaints related to excessive force or assault. He was exonerated in all those cases.

That officer, Sterling Wheaton (ph), still has five additional suits pending against him. The Atlanta City police would not Wheaton or any of the officers involved in the Castellani case available. But the chief says it's too early for judgment.

CHIEF EARNEST JUBILEE, ATLANTIC CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT: All I can tell you is that there is an internal investigation and that when it's over, I'll be able to speak about the results.

CARROLL (on camera): At this point, though, you are standing by the officers?

JUBILEE: Well, absolutely. And at the conclusion of the investigation, then we'll move forward from there.

CARROLL (voice-over): The mayor of Atlantic City called the video disturbing and has asked the state's attorney general to oversee that investigation. We showed the tape to a former police officer and law enforcement expert, Lou Palumbo.

LOU PALUMBO, FORMER POLICE EXPERT: I have to say that I believe the use of force they used here was appropriate, yes.

CARROLL: John Shane, professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says from his perspective, the use of the dog was an unnecessary and potentially deadly use of force. PROF. JOHN SHANE, JOHN JAY COLELGE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE: I don't know of any training that allows officer does launch a dog on someone's neck, which is right where the dog went.

CARROLL (on camera): Do you believe there can be any justification for the officers' actions?


CARROLL (voice-over): Castellani showed me the scars he will now have to live with. But he says his experience has not shaken his trust in law enforcement.

CONNOR CASTELLANI: I'm not saying that all cops are bad, like the majority of them are good people are here to protect us, but there are just some that I guess have to be looked out for.

CARROLL: Jason Carroll, CNN, Atlantic City, New Jersey.


BURNETT: And OUTFRONT next, President Obama weighed in on the Washington Redskins name controversy and our Democratic guest says he should have stayed the heck out of it. That's next.

And a monster truck losses control, with deadly consequences.

Plus, I hope you're Chicken McNuggets for dinner. And that's all I say about it for now. That's in a minute.

And the shout-out tonight, don't mess with this clerk. Police in Suffolk County, New York, are looking for this man. He pulls up a gun, tried to rob the store. He actually fired the gun at the wall behind the clerk. This clerk is stoic.

What does he do? He stands there and he reaches down and he has a machete. He pulls out the machete and chases the attempted robber out of the store. It gets even better. Because then the chase continues into the parking lot where the guy with the gun is so scared of the guy with the machete he doesn't actually turn around and shoot.

Now, I know I'm making light of something that was real life and wasn't funny, but this is an incredible story. The shout-out goes to the clerk for having a machete at the ready.


BURNETT: And we're back with our "Outer Circle" tonight. We go to Mexico where at least eight people, including four children were killed. A driver lost control of his monster truck, sending it into the crowd. Now, you probably watch maybe in the weekends, in the afternoon, you watch these monster truck videos and these competitions.

But I want to warn you that what you're about to see now is a horrible thing that occurred. Nick Parker is covering the story from Mexico City. I asked him how this possibly could have happened.


NICK PARKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Erin, tragedy at an outdoor thrill show, in the northern city of Chihuahua, eight people are being killed, including four children when a monster truck careened into a crowd of spectators. Dozens of people have also been left injured.

The truck had just performed a stunt when it appears to have lost control. Prosecutors tell CNN it appears the truck was using an unauthorized route for the move. The driver of the truck has said he hit his head during that stunt and was left disoriented. The mayor of cit has launched an investigation that will focus on the responsibility of the promoters of the annual event -- Erin.


BURNETT: Thank you.

And I want to check with Anderson now on the look at what's coming up on "AC360."

Hey, Anderson.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Hey, Erin. Yes, much more on the shutdown standoff ahead on the program. Both sides say they are willing to compromise. So, why isn't there a deal? We'll speak with lawmakers ahead on both sides. Also, a fascination survivor story. My interview with Elizabeth Smart. New and revealing details about how she was snatched from her home, how her kidnapper was able to control her and what kept her alive, really her talking out for the first time since the kidnapping 10 years ago.

Also tonight, Tom Hanks plays the hero in the much buzzed about Hollywood film "Captain Philips". It's the real life crew members on the cargo ship overrun by Somali pirates, though say the story is not really true, not even close. We'll have their story.

Those stories, we'll also look at the weekend raids and the two global terror suspects. Joining me for that, former FBI negotiator Ali Soufan, and former Navy SEAL Chad Williams -- Erin.

BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much, Anderson. Looking forward to all of that.

And our seventh story OUTFRONT, the president weighing in on the Washington Redskins. So you know, this debate that has been going on for a while, about whether they should change their name and its offensive. Anyway, he told "The Associated Press" this weekend in an interview, quote, "If I were the owner of the team and I knew that there was a name of my team, if they had a storied story that was offending a sizable group of people, I'd think about changing it."

Former Clinton adviser and Washington Redskins attorney Lanny Davis responds on behalf of the team, saying President Obama, quote, "has better things to worry about." Is he right?

Paul Begala is former adviser to President Bill Clinton. He's back with us. And Marc Lamont Hill is associate professor at Columbia University.

Paul Begala, I know you have been defending the president on the debt ceiling, in the shutdown, and all of these other serious things. But these are very serious things. Should he have answered the question about the Washington Redskins in the midst of these other stuff?

PAUL BEGALA, CNN COMMENTATOR: Well, first, that's a good point, he was asked. But he didn't have to the answer. And I'd say, if I was advising him, I would have said, let's stay out of this one. We've got a full plate here. We're nearly -- we're at war in Afghanistan, we're nearly at war with Syria, can we just, almost at war with Congress, can we just not pick one more battle?

I think he is right on the merits. I think the name is offensive, and the record is even more offensive. They're one and three. They're awful this year.

But it just the timing --

BURNETT: Oh, they're not as bad as the Steelers.

BEGALA: Or the Giants.

If anybody is going to change the name, they're the Giants, they're not Giants, they're pygmies.


BURNETT: That's true.

All right. Marc, what do you think about this? Because, you know, the president, to Paul's point, could have said, you know what, I know people have strong views, but I'm really not going to about this, because look at the polling. Even if he did for the polls, so the Redskins change their name, in the Washington metro area, 66 percent say no.


BURNETT: So if the fans don't care about it, I had kind of gone off the radar, he does have all these wars going on. Why?

HILL: Well, first of all, I don't concede that the fans don't care about it. Sixty-six percent are sort of indifferent, but the people who are opposed to this feel really passionately about it, they're deeply invested in it. They are very disgruntled minority in every sense of the term.

So, I think it's important. He is the first sitting president to make a comment on these name changes, in the offensive nature of Indiana Native American sports team. So, I think it's really big deal. And I don't buy into the logic that we're in Afghanistan, we're in Syria, we're Iran, or Iraq, rather, we can't talk about this stuff. You know, we have debt ceiling negotiation pending, we can't talk about this stuff.

There is never going to be a moment where the president has a completely empty plate. He is allowed to walk and chew gum at the same time. He can handle everything that's going on. He can wait for the Republicans to stop being recalcitrant and he can still mention what he's asked, as you pointed out, hey, do you think this is a good or bad idea?

BURNETT: Does it make it trivialize anything at all, though, Paul? Because, you know, I mean, you know, your boss was asked about a lot of things. And he managed to do it and keep his dignity. I don't know how when he weighed in on boxers or briefs. But he did.

All right. Now, obviously, this is not in that category, I don't mean to imply that. But would he have looked -- caused an even bigger storm if he refused to answer it?

BEGALA: No, it's like he even barely even answered it. I mean, kind of put his tune, I would think about it if I were the owner, I know he's --

BURNETT: Yes, he's equivocated (ph), you're right.

BEGALA: That's right. He equivocated a bit. And again, I think what he should have said is -- here is where I disagree with Marc. I have worked in the White House, the time and attention of the president of the United States is the most rare and precious thing in the world. And I'm glad that he is a sports fan. He's an ESPN junkie like me, I love that. It makes him a regular guy.

But it doesn't mean he has to share all of those views, particularly about something like this where he can't affect it anyway. The owner of the team, Dan Schneider (ph), issued a statement, something like, not no, but hell, no.

HILL: But I mean, I think president can't obviously directly influence, they're a private team. But I think should weigh in on public matters. He should weigh in on things that matters to the general public. This is something that matters to a big chunk of the American people. This took five seconds of his presidential time. It wasn't like he announced a big press conference in the East Room, it's not as if assembled a tame of advisors. He just answered the question he was asked. He was sitting in the room.

BURNETT: It's fair point, but they didn't care for, what, 80 years the team's -- they suddenly now. There's people who are taken this issue. I don't mean to demean the issue, I'm just saying now there's people fighting for the issue.

HILL: There's always people fighting for the issue. I think they're just starting to get voice. Even in the '50s and '60s, there are people who were offended by terms like redskin. But one of the things they lacked was a big political backing. Now that you have a sitting president who says, however, you know, lightly, this is something that might be problematic, something we might -- should consider. Now, they may get more support, and they may be able to get the ball rolling. And even if the American people decide differently, even if the Redskins never change their name, it's still a big deal.

BURNETT: All right. Well, thanks very much to both of you and we want your feedback. Do you think the president should have weighed in on the Redskins issue regardless of what you think about the name? Or was it inappropriate at this time?

Well, now our eight story OUTFRONT, it's the money and power of "Breaking Bad." So, tonight, we got the "Breaking Bad", you know, technically said goodbye on television, it's truly saying farewell. So, when the final episode aired, Sony and auction site ScreenBid begin auctioning off items that were used during the production. The vehicles, the props, costumes, were listed for hundreds, even thousands of dollars.

So, for the past week, fans have been happily bidding on the items, now it is almost over. The auction for many of the items begin expiring today, and super fans of the show found out if their bid was high enough.

I mean, you people must be super fans, the most paid was $65,500 for Walter White's copy of "Leaves of Grass." Wow, what roll over. And for that, Hector's bell? Twenty-six thousand seven hundred and fifty bucks. You must be crazy.

Other items, including vehicles gas mask, teddy bears with no eyes, and Walter White's briefs. Worn? Currently going for $6,000. Hey, whoever bids $6,000, may I remind you they were worn? Anyway, they're still available. They could for more if super fans were willing to pay.

And you do have to pay to be a super fan because memorabilia experts tell us that unlike iconic pieces like Fonzi's jacket, or Archie Bunker's chair, new items aren't likely to be considered museum pieces that are going to go up in value. It's more of a cult show. Not a long term part of American part of culture. Now, that could be proven wrong, that's the view now.

As a result they say big money paid now, it doesn't necessarily later mean big profit. So buy the tidy whitey because -- if you love Walter White. Anyway, ScreenBids intends to bring more than $2 million with this auction and that money is actually mostly going to go to Sony.

Now, Sony right now on the market is worth $17 billion. So, $2 million means absolutely nothing to them. With the show's subject matter, we thought it might be nice to see the money go to a drug rehab facility or another foundation instead of Sony's deep coffers.

All right. Still OUTFRONT, what's actually in a Chicken McNugget.


BURNETT: It is time for the OUTFRONT "Outtake", some bad news for chicken nuggets, they're terrible for you. Shocker, you say?

All right. Well, it might be even worse than you thought. Researchers at the American Journal of Medicine randomly selected the nuggets from two different national fast food chains and analyze their components. And it was not good.

According to the results, just half of the nuggets was made out of chicken meat, and, quote, "fat was present in equal or great quantities, along with bone, nerve and connective tissue." Conclusion chicken nuggets are mostly fat, their name is a misnomer.

Now, the researchers did not name the two fast food chains they tested, which is a problem here, they should face the fire on this since honestly of the commonly cited national fast food chains, you can go ahead and guess who they tested. I mean, we don't know, but go ahead and guess.

Yes, we're aware all these places served the same stuff, so maybe calling them out individually is pointless. It seems the truth is, no matter what the advertising says that chicken nuggets just are not that good for you. Even though they seem like a fun healthy option for kids, they're not. You can swap out the fries for apples and serve milk instead of soda, all good things, right? The fact is still, that you're are eating balls of fat, along with bones, nerves, and connective tissue.

Anderson starts now.