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Macy's Will Be Open on Thanksgiving Day; Powerful Cyclone Hits India; Adrian Peterson Plays After Tragic Loss; Tom Brady's Late-Game Heroics

Aired October 14, 2013 - 06:30   ET

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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Look at this. Everyone on board is OK, thanks to quick thinking rescuers and Good Samaritans. All 30 people and one dog are pulled out of the water in just minutes. It is not clear why the 45-foot catamaran sank, but officials think it might have been an illegal charter without a licensed captain.

That can be a problem.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Yes.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Amazingly quick work there. One of the upsides of having a lot of boaters in the area.

LEMON: Yes, absolutely.

CUOMO: Good stuff.

BOLDUAN: Thanks, Don.

CUOMO: Coming up on NEW DAY, NFL superstar Adrian Peterson probably took the hardest hit of his life when he learned of the death of his 2-year-old son Friday. He played this Sunday. You should hear why.

BOLDUAN: Also, ahead, world famous artists selling for just $60 on the streets of New York. Buyers don't even know it.

CUOMO: I'm going to miss that.

BOLDUAN: I know, we missed it this weekend.

CUOMO: Right.

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CUOMO: Welcome back to NEW DAY.

It is "Money Time".

Some are calling it the breaking of sacred trust. There are reports that Macy's will break with the decade's old tradition and open on Thanksgiving Day. It looks the store that gives us the classic parade, to grab some of those parade-goers on their way home.

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Charge! Like bulls. I mean, come on.

CUOMO: Alison Kosik, you are not happy about this. Tell us why.

KOSIK: First of all, why do you have to charge into a store like that? I don't know.

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KOSIK: Falling all over everybody? Flattening everybody?

BOLDUAN: It's tradition for many families.

KOSIK: I know, but now, what is happening the insidious creep of the shopping hours are creeping into the holiday even more, because what's reported now is, Macy's could break with this 155-year tradition of staying closed on Thanksgiving Day because what happened last year is Macy's noticed that something was happening here in New York City, when the traditional Thanksgiving parade was happening.

DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: People were going shopping.

KOSIK: Well, no. The flagship story has been closed. They noticed that after the parade ended, everybody was migrating to the rival stores, like Lord & Taylor and other ones, and spending their money there, they're like -- what's going on here?

CUOMO: It took them 150 years to figure that out. People shop on Thanksgiving?

KOSIK: Well, because what's been happening is this creep of the time kind of going into the Thanksgiving holiday started in 2011 where you saw stores opening at midnight, just before Black Friday -- Black Friday, by the way, when the stores are considered to sort of turn a profit. Then last year, you are seeing stores like Wal-Mart and other big stores like target opening even earlier, 8:00 p.m. on Thursday. So, now, you are seeing Macy's jump on the band wagon. It looks like they will be opened at 8:00 a.m. on Thanksgiving, which is unheard of.

Now, the Macy's -- in the past two years, Macy's actually opened its 800 stores nationwide at midnight. No telling if these other nationwide stores are going to open at 8:00.

But the flagship store, reported in "The New York Post", will be opening at 8:00 --

LEMON: Chris has a very good point, because one would think after the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, you want to go down, buy swag, things that lock like little animals and things. Why --

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BOLDUAN: What's the calculation? I mean, obviously, this is a business. You can make big money. They do start making big money on Black Friday. How much -- what -- how much money can they make by opening on Thanksgiving Day, do they think? KOSIK: I don't know specifically what they can make. But if you look at last year total for retailers, retailers made something like $16 billion during the holiday shopping season. This is huge for retailers. It's really their time to finally make some money after they had a tough year.

CUOMO: The flipside is black to them means making money, with their employees, they'll mean just -- this is bad because they're going to have to be removed from their families. What about that aspect?

KOSIK: Yes, they're going to have to take the pumpkin pie to go.

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BOLDUAN: Our employees are --

CUOMO: Don used to work at Macy's, by the way.

LEMON: I used to work at Macy's. That's how I paid my bills when I moved to New York. Holiday relief.

CUOMO: So, how do you feel about this, Don?

KOSIK: Some people are happy about it. Some people who want to work and make money can make a lot of money because they're opened around the clock. Others say, I want to have time with my family. You know what, they want to keep their jobs. Many saying that listen, if I want to keep my job, I need to work.

CUOMO: Work to live. Live to work.

KOSIK: Shop.

CUOMO: The balance.

BOLDUAN: The balance.

KOSIK: Live to shop.

BOLDUAN: All right. Or like to shop. There you go. I think that's a good balance. Thank you, Alison.

All right. Let's get another check with Karen Maginnis, in for Indra Petersons this morning with what you need to know before you head out the door.

Good morning, Karen.

KAREN MAGINNIS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Good morning. We do have a frontal system making its way towards the Eastern Seaboard. It's not going to be a big influence. It will be the next storm system that rolls in just about the middle of the workweek that's going to change up the weather across that I-95 corridor, where temperatures generally have been running above average. But the rainfall totals are just about half of what they should be for the entire month of October. But this storm system, very vigorous, ejecting out of the West, in towards the Central Plains. For today that, could spell out severe weather potential at lowest as we go in towards Nebraska, also for Kansas, that's when we are looking at big change.

Temperature-wise for this morning, New York City's 53, still sitting there. It has been for the past hour or so. Boston, a chilly 44 and 38 degrees being reported in portions of New Jersey.

All right, for the next three days, look at this, for New York City, we got a few clouds off and on for today, coming up tomorrow, Wednesday, I think you stand the better chance for some moisture. The same goes for Washington, D.C. and Boston as well.

I think you will start to see the bulk of your moisture, at least the next five days to materialize then, 60s for today going into tomorrow, temperatures in the 70s. High pressure dominates this region. But across the country, it will be Texas that whole focus on. You could see that flooding rainfall continue even into tomorrow.

Chris, Kate, back to you.

BOLDUAN: All right. Karen, thanks so much.

CUOMO: All right, coming up on NEW DAY, tragedy for NFL superstar Adrian Peterson. He wound up playing of the death of his son. We'll tell you he did that incredible story.

BOLDUAN: And imagine this, buying a piece of art that is normally worth tens of thousands of dollars, getting it for only $60. That actually happened to some tourists in New York City and it is our must see moment.

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BOLDUAN: Welcome back.

Let's go around the world now, starting in India, where the most powerful cyclone strike that country in 14 years made landfall this weekend.

CNN's Mallika Kapur has that.

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MALLIKA KAPUR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: There was immense fear as millions of people in eastern India braved themselves for the most powerful cyclone in at least 14 years. There's also similar storm hit in 1999 when 10,000 lives were lost and this entire city was completely flattened. But this time around, as you can see, people are already back from the shelters trying to rebuild their lives, and the damage and loss of life nothing compared to what it could have been.

They have avoided immediate danger but they now face the long task of rebuilding their homes and their lives. Back to you, Kate.

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BOLDUAN: All right. Mallika, thank you so much.

And now to a horrific crash in Peru. Fifty-one people killed when a bus veers off a cliff plunging more than 600 feet. Here's Shasta Darlington with that.

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SHASTA DARLINTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A bus carrying 51 people fell off a cliff in Peru over the weekend, killing everyone on board, including more than a dozen children. Now, the bus plunged off a ravine and fell some 600 feet. Rescuers worked through the night hoping to find survivors. But in the end, they had to give up.

Unfortunately, this was not an isolated incident. Many people die on the high altitude highways of Peru, more than 4,000 last 84 alone, back to you, Kate.

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BOLDUAN: Shasta, thank you.

And a high-tech high rise fish farms are a hot trend in Asia, an industry born out of necessity because of overfished waters.

Pauline Chiou has the story from Hong Kong.

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PAULINE CHIOU, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Kate, here in Hong Kong, there is not enough fish in the sea because of years of overfishing. This has led to the rise of fish farming, where they're grown in enclosures and sold for food. Now, it's becoming more high- tech. This company operates a fish farm out of a high rise building.

They use blue lighting to simulate the colors of the sea. The owner sells his fish for around $45 a pound wholesale. The live fish industry is big business worth around a billion dollars a year in Hong Kong and China. Back to you, Kate.

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BOLDUAN: All right. Thanks, Pauline. Thanks for that.

CUOMO: All right. Playing through the pain barely describes what NFL star, Adrian Peterson, is doing just two days after the death of his two-year-old son. The Minnesota Vikings running back returned to the field on Sunday. Now, this is not the first tragedy for Peterson and his family and not the first time he's turned to football to help deal with it.

Let's bring in Mike Pesca. This is a true coping mechanism for this athlete, right? The more you know about his story.

MIKE PESCA, NPR SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Athletes like all human beings have a couple ways they deal with tragedy. Sometimes, it's so distracting you can't do anything, but other times, they take solace and refuge in a routine that is an NFL season. You know, NFL players, their lives are so much more regimented than anyone beside the military.

So, by playing in this game, you get the sense that Adrian Peterson was, perhaps, able to forget escape, do whatever he can to deal with the tragedy.

BOLDUAN: Was there a mixed reaction to -- when you hear it on the surface, some would think, wow, how could he be going back just two days after his son -- was that some of the reaction?

PESCA: You know, there's little context in line. Peterson, this is a total tragedy, full stop. There's nothing to be said about that.

BOLDUAN: Exactly.

PESCA: Peterson had not met the boy until reports that I read had not met the boy until he was in a coma. Did not know of the boy's existence, did not have a relationship --

BOLDUAN: So any judgmental reaction means that context?

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PESCA: Right. And we need to know -- of course, Peterson was unbelievably upset, but if his way of dealing with it was to play football, how can we judge?

CUOMO: That's the key. We have a text message that Adrian Peterson sent out about this if we can put it up on the screen to understand this. I mean, this is a man who's -- you see right there.

"My brother passed the night before combine. That's where you get measure as a player to see how you make it as a pro. I decided to go through with it. The same reason why I play this week. You may ask why? God wants good to come from it. We mourn and grieve, but heaven had the baddest welcoming party for my son. That knowledge give me peace. I'm still hurt and feel the pain of life."

And then you see, he continues there he's able to function because he knows -- he's relying on his faith is what he's saying. But also, again, contextually, Mike, he loses one brother one age. He loses another brother later on. Now, his son, through each of it in his life, he's used football that way. You have to understand that to understand the decision.

PESCA: Right. And what Adrian Peterson did is sort of like our societal decision ripped large after things like 9/11, after things like the Kennedy assassination. There's always that debate. Do we put it aside or do we get back to routine and maybe it helps us feel a little bit. DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: And that's what people do. Many people deal with tragedy by wanting their lives being as normal as possible. And that is their coping mechanism. So, you can't judge him.

PESCA: Right. You don't know. I mean, there's so much unknown and that's painful. And football is the world of unknown for Adrian Peterson where he's in control.

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PESCA: Exactly.

BOLDUAN: The other big story in football, a different story is the story of two very different tales of records between two brothers, Peyton and Eli Manning. So, there's a lot of buildup to the Broncos in Jacksonville game. Did it bear fruit? They didn't win by the spread that they thought they were going to win by like 100 points.

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PESCA: They won by 16. So, this how good the Broncos are. They won by 16. Kind of disappointing. They won by 16. It wasn't even really close. The Broncos are still good. And Peyton Manning is on a pace to break every known passing record.

LEMON: I am so teen Peyton, because it makes us old guys look great. I mean, you know, he's incredible.

BOLDUAN: What's behind the success this season, do you think?

PESCA: Well, I mean, he's one of the greatest quarterbacks --

BOLDUAN: Beyond that.

PESCA: The timing, the precision, the rapport he has with his receivers within that offense. He doesn't have the strongest arm, is the smartest player. Works harder on the mental aspects of his game.

CUOMO: But also, giving a nod to his brother, OK? The key is in the phrase, Mike, what's behind it? He's got great line in Denver. His brother's got a lousy line. And you often say when you're watching football, the difference between the good quarterback and a bad quarterback is how good the guys are in front of them. Isn't that a fair analysis of what's going on with Eli?

PESCA: Yes. I think it's the most fair analysis. Eli has always been injured reception (ph) prone and we've know that. But when you're behind the back line, intellectually you say, oh, yes, I'm sure that's affecting his decision. But then when you see him through the pick, you blame the quarterback.

CUOMO: Right.

PESCA: But it is so often the fact that he's unsure, he's unsteady. He has no confidence there. He feels like he has to do everything. And this is the guy who never got hit. Last year, he was hit fewest times per drop back in the lead. He gave up seven or his line gave up seven sacks a game against Carolina this year.

LEMON: Confidence, very important. Lock at Tiger Woods. I mean --

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CUOMO: Especially, imagine Tiger Woods with a Toyota about to hit you every time. You have to remember that, we love the game and you don't forgive these guys that much because that's part of the sport. We like, you know, the winners and losers. But there's nothing like being a quarterback and knowing that there is a man who is the size of a refrigerator moving at the speed of a dog ready to hit you every time there's a split second of opportunity --

PESCA: Yes. Dog refrigerators all over. I know --

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PESCA: But I think the dog --

CUOMO: Yes. The dog -- everybody knows that. It's science.

(LAUGHTER)

CUOMO: It's science. It's called the dog fridge --

PESCA: Hat trick dog fridge.

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BOLDUAN: Methodology.

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CUOMO: What do you think? What do you think of the dog-fridge thing? Let me know. Tweet us with the #NEWDAY.

LEMON: And what do you think of this? It's time for today's "Must- See Moment." People who purchased street art in New York City this weekend were in for a very big surprise.

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LEMON (voice-over): An artist set up a stand near Central Park to the park south, very close to us. He sold pieces for as low as $60 bucks. All right. It may not sound like a lot of money. It turns out the art, though, was done by none other than the famous street artist, Banksy. His work normally sells for tens of thousands of dollars.

Banksy secretly filmed the unsuspecting buyers and make their purchases and then he posted it on his blog, and maybe that's why the person was hugging everybody who came by. Out with love -- wouldn't you, Kate?

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BOLDUAN: Until maybe they saw either it online. They were told after they purchased it, but they had gotten like the steal of the century.

CUOMO: Any reason why he did it?

LEMON: I think -- he put it on his blog, I think, as you know -- maybe he just wants to give it away, but I think it's probably for his -- it's a sell. Everything is for a reason. I'm sure he's making some sort of movie or something.

By the way, they say that's not Banksy in the video. They said he keeps his identity secret. So, I don't know who that guy is.

BOLDUAN: This is --

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BOLDUAN: Made that up.

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BOLDUAN: That was a good moment. Coming up next on NEW DAY, pressure in Washington on Wall Street and across the globe as the U.S. creeps closer to a possible default. Can the Senate come up with a last- minute deal? Oh, if we knew, we would tell you.

CUOMO: Plus, what a survival story for you. A 72-year-old man spends 19 days alone in the woods, has to figure out how to survive, and boy, does he do it? He drinks algae. He finds ways to find animals with protein. We'll tell you the incredible story of survival.

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JAY LENO, HOST, "THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO": According to new research, elephants can understand the communicative the intent of human pointing. Like if human points at something, an elephant can turn and instantly understand what you want. In fact, the only elephants that don't understand what people want are the Republicans in Congress.

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JIMMY FALLON, HOST, "LATE NIGHT WITH JIMMY FALLON": The talk (ph) of the shutdown could last until Thanksgiving because no one was willing to talk to each other.

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FALLON: This which is weird, because my family starts their shutdown on Thanksgiving.

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FALLON: You shut up, you fat bastard.

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BOLDUAN: It's good to know -- when it comes to Thanksgiving.

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LEMON: That's a mild word for my family, by the way.

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CUOMO: This morning, fans in Boston are feeling good, but I'm a New York fan, so I'm going to phrase it a little different way. They had amazing comebacks, the Red Sox and the Patriots yesterday. I'm going to say, but it just proves that Boston has to win by luck in any kind of big situation. Andy Scholes joins us with this morning's "Bleacher Report." Truly two phenomenal sport style comebacks. Tell us about it.

ANDY SCHOLES, BLEACHER REPORT: Yes, Chris. You know, what an exciting night in the city of Boston. Now, the Patriots comes back. It was so improbable that the stadium was half empty when it happened. Now here's all -- here's how it all went down, late in the game, Brady throws an interception, so fans think the game is over. They start heading for the parking lot. Well, the Patriots will get the ball back one more time, and Brady drives them down the field.

And with under 10 seconds to go, he makes an amazing throw to Kenbrell Thompkins. Touchdown, Patriots! They beat the Saints 30-27. It's the first loss for New Orleans this year.

The Cowboys and Redskins renewing their rivalry on "Sunday Night Football." Tony Romo coming off his amazing game against the Broncos. Third quarter, he finds Terrance Williams for the touchdown. That was Romo's only TD pass of the night, but it was enough. Cowboys win 31- 16. RG3 struggles. They continue. He completed less than half of his passes. Redskins, disappointing 1-4 this season.

Our number one in the lineup section on BleacherReport.com, today is the amazing comeback by the Red Sox last night. Down 5-1 in the eighth, pace (ph) is loaded for Big Papi and the first pitch he sees, boom! The ball is going to land in the bull pen for a grand slam. That ties the game at five.

And in the bottom of the ninth, runner on third for Jarrod Saltalamacchia, he comes through with a single. Red Sox win in a walk-off 6-5 to tie the series at one game apiece. Tonight, the Dodgers and Cardinals play game three of the NLCS. First pitch 8:00 eastern on TBS.

And guys, that should be another good one. So far, in both championship league series, each game has been decided by one run. It's pretty exciting game.

BOLDUAN: So far, it's been very exciting. Andy, thank you, so much. Exciting game, though, I have a very unhappy husband this morning.

CUOMO: That's all right. It has nothing to do with the game.

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BOLDUAN: That deserves a punch, that does that time.

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BOLDUAN: We're now at the top of the hour, Don Lemon, which means it's time for the top new news.

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SEN. RAND PAUL, (R) KENTUCKY: I think it's not a good idea to go through the debt ceiling deadline.

CUOMO: Final countdown. Only three days until the debt ceiling and it is all riding on the Senate. There is a new deal in the works and new hurdles. We'll tell you the chance as it gets done.

BOLDUAN: The suspect. New drawings just released of the man who may have taken Madeleine McCann (ph) six years ago. The focus now more intense than ever as police ramp up their investigation.

CUOMO: Trapped. A woman clinging for her life when a draw bridge raises with her on it. How is she saved and how did she get there?

Your NEW DAY starts right now.

ANNOUNCER: What you need to know --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- is being done as the shutdown goes on. It affects America's place in the world.

ANNOUNCER: What you just have to see --

This is "New Day" with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan, and Michaela Pereira.

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CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome back to NEW DAY. It's Monday, October 14th, seven o'clock in the east.

We're just three days now from the U.S. defaulting on its loan. Still no progress on a deal in Congress. Two top senators are trying to find middle ground to reopen the government and avoid economic disaster. We'll break down the negotiations and let you know what's on the table and give you the best chance of whether a deal will be reached.

BOLDUAN: And we have a remarkable story of survival. A hunter found over the weekend after he was missing for 19 days in the wilderness. Wait until you hear how he's managed to survive. We'll have a live report just ahead.

CUOMO: But first, it is now day 14, I cannot believe it of the partial government shutdown. Now, the debt ceiling is looming just three days away. We have a clock on your screen. So, you can watch it. Why? Because the world economy is watching.