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Typhoon Phailin Slams Into India; Interview with OPCW Director- General Ahmet Uzumch; Tunnel Found Between Gaza-Israel; No Deal In Sight For U.S. Government Shutdown, Debt Ceiling; Hong Kong Company Grows Fish In High Rise
Aired October 14, 2013 - 8:00 ET
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PAULINE CHIOU, HOST: I'm Pauling Chiou in Hong Kong. Welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.
A powerful cyclone slams into India's east coast.
The head of the chemical weapons agency that won this year's Nobel Peace Prize speaks to CNN.
And we take you to a fish farm inside a Hong Kong high rise.
We are tracking two major stories in India this hour: one, a celebration that resulted in tragedy, the other an expected event that didn't turn out as bad as many people had feared.
First to central India where a stampede outside a Hindu temple killed at least 112 people.
A police inspector has told CNN the death toll could climb even higher.
Thousands of pilgims were crossing a bridge leading to a temple for a Hindu festival. Police say rumors that it was about to collapse caused a mass panic. People jumped off the bridge into the river below, others were caught underneath the crowd trying to escape and were trampled to death.
Well, let's get more on what happened to a storm that hit the eastern part of India. Mari Ramos is live at the world weather center with more.
Mari, we saw the mass evacuations in eastern India, so it could have been much, much worse. Is the worst behind us? And what can we expect with this storm system?
MARI RAMOS, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: I think there's going to be a few things that we're going to continue to monitor when it comes to the storm system. We were extremely lucky, I guess, that there were so many preparations this time around. And as the storm was approaching and as the storm was getting closer, there were mass evacuations in this area and that really brought down the death toll. And that's what you were saying that it was not as bad as they expected, as anyone expected, at least in the death toll.
But there's still a lot of damage and a lot of things that people are dealing with here as far as recovery efforts.
When you look at the satellite image, there's not much left of Phailin. It made landfall in this area here to the south with winds estimated at over 200 kilometers per hour. Those areas that were closest to the center of the storm are going to be the ones that have the most damage, that are not just down trees, down power lines, but roofs blown off of homes and it's going to take a long time for people to recover from that kind of damage.
But in some cases bigger cities like Bhubaneswar, for example. We're starting to hear people returning back to their homes from areas where they're evacuated from, but you've got to remember that it was still about 200 kilometers from where the storm actually made landfall.
So as we get closer to those areas closest to that eyewall, that's going to be essential, I think, to see what's going to happen.
What's left, not much as you can see right over here with the remnants of Phailin.
There's still some very heavy rain, though, across portions of Nepal moving into eastern parts of India and even into Bangaldesh.
Bangladesh, by the way, did get some pretty good storm surge from Phailin as well, so there was some localized flooding in those areas as well. Not as intense as what we saw where the storm made landfall, but still something to have to recover from there.
Scattered rainshowers will continue as the remnants of the storm just kind of wear down into this region here. So at least we'll start to see a little bit of an improvement weather wise. It's hot, it's humid, so that's always a challenge for rescue personnel, especially to bring food and water for the thousands of people that may have lost their homes. So that is going to be a huge chlalenge over the next few days. And of course even in the larger cities, many areas that are still without power, because power was cut ahead of time to prevent, of course, people from being electrocuted.
So there's a lot going on. And we're going to talk about it more again in the next hour, talk about some of the infrastructure that was damaged from Phailin.
Let's go ahead and move over now farther to the east, because we have still two more storms to talk about, Wipha over here that could be affecting Japan and Nari here farther to the south.
Pauline, Nari is the one that moved across the Philippines. It has brought some very -- some significant damage into these areas. People here starting to move in.
We have some people from Vietnam, some of the first pictures coming in from earlier this morning, our iReporters there sending in this image. You can see the large waves. You can hear the large waves. Da Nang is going to be one of those areas that is already starting to experience tropical storm force winds.
These pictures taken earlier today.
The water that you see there a huge concern, because in Da Nang proper we could see a storm surge of up to 1.5 meters. And that's very signficant. Coastal flooding will be a concern over these areas. The winds will start to pick up, or already starting to pick up tonight. The hurricane forces winds -- or I should say the typhoon storm winds, are still offshore as you'll be able to tell from this graphic right over here.
See the yellow? The yellow that I'm showing you on the map if you come back over to the weather map is tropical storm force winds and the typhoon winds are still offshore. So this is going to be the next area to be impacted.
We are very concerned not just about the storm surge, but also about the potential for significant flooding. Rain is a huge issue across this region. And in some cases, many of these areas are already inundated by, you know, just your regular monsoon rains that you've had. And after it moves across Vietnam, it will be moving into Laos and Cambodia and Thailand. And those areas will be affected as well by the significant rain.
And the flooding. And then when you get into the mountains, you'll have to deal with the potential for landslides. So there's a lot still that they're going to have to contend with when it comes to this particular storm.
Back to you.
CHIOU: It's been a very, very active region. Thank you very much, Mari, for giving us an update on both of those systems.
Let's get more now from India and from Phailin and the affects of that storm. CNN's Sumnima Udas joins us live from Odisha State.
Sumnima, what kind of damage are you seeing there right now?
SUMNIMA UDAS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Pauline, we're here at the popular beach resort of Touri (ph), which is a holy site here. And thousands of people have actually returned. They're on the beachfront, they're watching the sunset. They are here to watch the ocean. The locals here say for the past two days the entire beach was completely swept clear, but the vendors are back. They're trying to rebuild their lives.
Earlier, we were at the largest slum in Bhubaneswar, which is the capital of Odisha. And people, again, returning back from the shelters. They've been there for the past few days, that they're removing the trees that have fallen onto their homes, the water tanks are back trying to deliver water to all the residents there.
So, really a sense of resilience here. People are trying to build their lives again. And of course an overwhelming sense of relief as well, because the damage is not as much as it could have been.
CHIOU: So, Sumnima, you're seeing people return to their homes, but still half a million people are homeless after the storm sweeped through over the weekend. What is the government doing to try to help them?
UDAS: The government has promised to compensate a lot of these families, the ones that of course were suspected. They've said they will provide at least 50 kilos of rice to each family. They will also assess the damage that was done onto their homes and then help them to rebuild their homes.
Their focus right now is really on the roads, clearing the roads from all these trees so they can send food aid through the more remote areas of this region. And of course also to bring in electricity to these homes. 15,000 kilometers of electricity, or electrical lines were affected, so the priority now is to bring in electricity again to these homes.
CHIOU: And we see all the debris in the roadways there, so trying to get to these areas and trying to get rescue materials obviously is such a challenge.
Now rescuers are being praised for mobilizing those massive evacuations early, because the death toll could have been much higher. How huge of an effort was this to get people out of their homes before the storm arrived?
UDAS: Pauline, at least three days before this storm arrived, rescue workers here -- or authorities were really on the ground going door to door telling people to leave their homes, evacuate to higher ground, evacuating to normally shelters, government shelters and schools that have turned into shelters for this period.
So a door to door, the authorities were going. There were also advertising on television channels here, local television channels here. They were also sending SMS text messages to people here.
So a lot of people here say they were well aware that the cyclone was coming. They were prepared for this. And that's why the damage is not as significant.
And many people here say they are not. I mean, they were scared of course about the cyclone, but because they'd experience that damage in 1999 they were well prepared for this particularly cylcone -- Pauline.
CHIOU: Yeah. And back then, more than 10,000 people were killed. So at least the good news is that we didn't see numbers like that at all, nowhere near to that number.
All right, Sumnima, thank you very much Sumnima Udas there reporting live from Odisha State in eastern India.
And you are watching News Stream. Coming up this hour, could this man be the missing link in a six year mystery? We'll have more on the latest investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
More meetings, but U.S. politicians still no closer to ending a government shutdown.
And a body to rid the world of chemical weapons wins a Nobel Peace Prize. What more needs to be done to get rid of the deadly poison?
CHIOU: You are watching News Stream. And you're looking at a visual version of all the stories we've got in the show today.
In just a few minutes, we'll look at the latest from the U.S. as lawmakers still cannot agree on a plan to reopen the U.S. government. But first, the case of a missing British girl, Madeleine McCann, has baffled investigators for almost seven years now.
In 2007, the 3-year-old disappeared while on holiday with her family in southern Portugal.
Now UK detectives have released images of a man who may be key to solving this mystery. And with new information they're taking another look at the timeline of events. CNN's Erin McLaughlin joins us live now from London.
Erin, what can you tell us about this new information?
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Pauline.
Well, this is the first time that Scotland Yard has released an image of a man that they say they would like to talk to. They're urging witnesses who may know who this individual is to come forward. It's part of a new push to find out what happened to this missing little girl.
MCLAUGHLIN (voice-over): This is the face of a man who police want to find in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Six years after the preschooler went missing while on a family vacation in Portugal, Scotland Yard released these computer generated sketches of a man they say was in the area at the time Madeleine vanished. Witnesses describe him as a white male, 20 to 40-years-old with short brown hair and a medium build.
CHIEF INSPECTOR ANDY REDWOOD, METROPOLITAN POLICE: He fits are clear. I'd ask the public to look very carefully at them. If they know who this person is, please come forward.
MCLAUGHLIN: It's a part of an appeal to the public for information of a clue of the reconstruction of the events that unfolded that tragic night. Madeleine disappeared from her bed while her parents were eating at a nearby restaurant. The appeal is now the focus of an exhaustive investigation that has spanned some 30 countries. They've analyzed phone records and interviewed over 400 witnesses. Police say they now have a better understanding of the time line in which the kidnapping could have taken place.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everything that is -- that can be of value has been examined and looked at, things which weren't done before. There is no guarantee that we will get answers to this, but at least everything has been tried, but I think at the very least, we owe the McCann's that.
MCLAUGHLIN: Madeleine's parents say they have never given up hope that they will find their little girl alive.
GERRY MCCANN, MADELEINE MCCANN'S FATHER: There have been a number of cases over the last few years of children and young women being phoned after been taken and held for very long periods of time. As parents, we wouldn't accept Madeleine is dead until we see evidence, clear evidence that that is the case.
MCLAUGHLIN: Police say they plan to release more sketches of other individuals that they would like to identify. Meanwhile, the parents of Madeleine McCann, Kate and Gerry plan to give a live interview. It's all part of an appeal that's set to be broadcast in the United Kingdom, The Netherlands and Germany. Police say it's crucial that more witnesses come forward to provide them with information to solve this case -- Pauline.
CHIOU: Hopefully this new information will lead to some sort of breakthrough.
Erin, thank you very much. Erin McLaughlin there live in London.
Well, two weeks into the partial U.S. government shutdown and three days away from a deadline to raise the debt ceiling, things are heating up in Washington. But politicians on both sides still cannot reach a solution. This man, the Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid is optimistic about a resolution as talks now move to the U.S. Senate.
Well, Democrat and Republican senators are set to meet on Monday to try to reach common ground. Our senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta has more now from Washington.
Jim, we're only a few days away from that debt ceiling deadline. Is there hope the Senate might be able to pull through where the House was not?
JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we're just going to have to see, Maggie (sic). In a sign of just how desperate things are becoming here in Washington, the only movement over the weekend was basically a couple of phone calls, a couple of meetings between the Senate Majority leader Harry Reid and the Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnel, two men who have not gotten along very well in recent weeks and months here in Washington. But they have to work together to avert a crisis.
ACOSTA (voice-over): With the clock ticking down to debt ceiling day it's come down to Senate majority leader Harry Reid and minority leader Mitch McConnell, who have started horsetrading over a deal to reopen the government and avoid default.
SEN. HARRY REID (D), MAJORITY LEADER: I've had a productive conversation with Republican leader this afternoon. Our discussions were substantive and we'll continue those discussions.
ACOSTA: The question is whether they can get there in time.
SEN. CHARLES SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Both leaders realize how difficult default would be, the devastation it would cause to America.
ACOSTA: But talks over the weekend appear to stumble again as Republicans accused Reid of overreaching by seeking additional concessions from Republicans over those forced budget cuts in the sequester.
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: Now is the time to be magnanimous, and sit down and get this thing done.
ACOSTA: The White House said President Obama was standing firm, in a phone call with House minority leader Nancy Pelosi, that there must be clean bills to extend the debt ceiling and end the shutdown with no strings attached. Tensions are boiling over.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: This is the people's memorial.
ACOSTA: Texas Senator Ted Cruz led a protest over the closing of the World War II Memorial on the National Mall that drew this verbal attack on the president.
LARRY KLAYMAN, FOUNDER, FREEDOM WATCH: I call upon all of you to wage a second American non-violent revolution, to use civil disobedience and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees and to figuratively come up with his hands out.
ACOSTA: Veterans and Tea Party activists grabbed monument security barricades and dumped them in front of the White House. Before a rowdy face-off with park police in riot gear, one man waved the confederate flag. Others called for impeachment.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They gave them back to President Obama by piling them in front of his house, our house, I'm sorry, in front of our house.
ACOSTA: While another Tea Party-backed senator was calling for compromise.
SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: I think it's not a good idea to go through the debt ceiling deadline. I think we should go ahead and have an agreement in advance.
ACOSTA: Now the only deal that has been struck in the last several days is between the federal government and state governments to reopen some of the national parks around the U.S. And as for things at the White House, things are quiet after all that commotion yesterday, but that rhetoric that you saw playing out outside of the White House is a sign of just how difficult it might be even if a deal is reached in the Senate to get it through the House where there are very many conservative Tea Party backed members of congress to deal with. The House Speaker John Boehner still has a very difficult task on his hands in the House -- Pauline.
CHIOU: Jim, from the perspective of the international audience, it's pretty alarming to see politicians of the world's biggest economy pushing it this far. For example, interest payments on Treasuries are due at the end of the month. We've heard warnings all week from CEOs and also from the IMF the past couple of days. Are politicians there in Washington going to wait until the markets really spiral before they rush to the table to find some sort of a solution?
ACOSTA: That is very possible, Pauline. And I think that's what a lot of people here in Washington are waiting for are some of the Dow futures of course are down this morning before Wall Street gets going in just about an hour from now. But I think that that is a very good possibility. We heard people across the Capitol say just that in the last 24 hours.
And keep in mind that this sort of thing did happen before when the government bailout was discussed several years ago. It took several drops in the stock market to get the House going again. And it may just take that this time around.
Now Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and the Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are expected to have more discussions later today. The Senate does go back into session. And there are other senators behind the scenes who are talking about other bipartisan types of agreement. So at this point we're just going to have to wait and see.
But I think with the -- even with the Columbus Day holiday, the markets are going to get going today, Pauline, and we may see that negative reaction that could wake people up here in Washington.
CHIOU: Yeah, the opening bell in about an hour from now. So we'll see.
All right, Jim, thank you very much for the wrap-up so far from Washington. Jim Acosta there.
In France, Sunday has been a day of rest for walks in the park and perhaps a pony ride. But most shops must remain closed, that's the law. After the break we'll tell you why that century old law is now being challenged.
CHIOU: Well, Sundays in France have long been a day off. That means most shops and supermarkets must remain closed by law. But with people keen to see stores open on Sunday, this traditional day of rest may be about to change. Jim Bittermann has more.
JIM BITTERMANN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Ah, Sunday in France, a day of restm to take a deep breath after the rigors of the previous week, and to mentally prepare for that 35-hour work week ahead. A day to be with the family or work on personal development.
But a day to shop? The government here is trying to figure out what to do after a court ruling which orders some home improvement stores to shut down on Sunday, in compliance with a work law drawn up a centry ago. The problem is that according to one survey, four out of five French favor the stores being open. And store owners say Sunday opening boosts the economy.
DOMINIQUE GERALD, SUNDAY SHOPPER (through translator): Stores need to be open Sundays. People who work all week long, they run all week. I prefer that stores be open on Sunday, definitely.
BITTERMANN: What's more, employees, like Maurad Tarb, who often are paid extra for Sunday work, say it is one way to make ends meet.
MAURAD TARB, EMPLOYEE: Money talks, you know. When you pay -- when you work on Sunday, you get about 150 percent of your salary. So it's more interesting for us to work on Sundays. But unfortunately, it's quite difficult to get all the Sundays because there's too many people who want to work Sundays.
BITTERMANN: Tarb and others, who want to work Sundays, are part of a protest movement trying to get the government to leave the stores alone. They say it would be ridiculous to do otherwise with high unemployment and an uncertain economy.
Nonetheless, the government is now imposing fines on the stores that stay open in defiance of the law.
(on camera): Opposing Sunday opening hours is an unlikely coalition on both ends of the political specgtrum. Neither conservative Catholics nor lefitst unionists and politicians think people should work on Sunday.
(voice-over): A spokeswoman for the radical Left Front Party says workers need to be protected.
RAQUEL GARRIDO, LEFT FRONT PARTY: I think everyone wants the rule to be that on Sunday you rest. The government obviously needs to put its hands in the theme because it's about working rights. If not, you will have -- everything will be open and then we will just have the American way of life. I think that's sad.
BITTERMANN: For the moment, the government has dodged a bullet by naming the former head of the French Post Office to study the question of Sunday opening hours. His report is due in November.
Meanwhile, the stores that stay open in defiance of the court ruling are paying hefty fines each weekend they do so, leaving the French to comtemplate whether that American way of life would ever be at home here.
Jim Bittermann, CNN, Paris.
CHIOU: I think it's fair to say that Novak Djokovic has enjoyed his trip to China this year, as in fact he seems to every year. The Serbian star may have lost his world number one ranking this month, but for the second year running he won his tournaments in Beijing and Shanghai and now has five trophies for the season.
It wasn't easy against Argentina's Juan Martin del Potro who took Djokovic to a deciding third set after upsetting Rafael Nadal in the semifinals. In fact, the third set went to a tiebreaker. But Djokovic came out on top, winning it by 7-3 and clinching his 15th Master's Series title.
Meanwhile, a disappointing season has prompted Roger Federer to part company with his coach of the last three years, Paul Annacone. This week, the Swiss star slipped to seventh in the world, his lowest ranking in over a decade.
But he reflected fondly on the time he's worked with Annacone saying they have achieved their two main goals -- to win another slam, which was last year's Wimbledon, and to get back on top of the world rankings.
Federer says that the American coach remains a dear friend.
After the break on News Stream, with fish stocks depleting in Hong Kong, we'll go inside a high rise fish farm that's keeping up with demand.
And we hear more from the Nobel Peace Prize winner the organization elminating chemical weapons around the world. And we get an update on their viatal mission in Syria.
CHIOU: I'm Pauline Chiou in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream. And these are your world headlines.
People in eastern India have begun to clean up the damage from tropical cyclone Phailin. Tens of thousands of lives may have been saved by a massive evacuation plan put into place before the storm hit. Still, some 20 people across the country died.
Elsewhere in India, at least 112 people were killed during a religious festival. Thousands of pilmgrims are crossing a bridge to a Hindu temple when suddenly there was a stampede. Authorities say people panicked over a rumor that the bridge was about to collapse.
The parens of Madeleine McCann, who went missing six years ago from a holiday result in Portugal are launching a fresh appeal for information about her whereabouts. British police have released these images of a man they say is crucial to their investigation. They are asking anyone who recognizes the sketches to come forward.
At least 20 people have been killed when a car bomb exploded in northwestern Syria. It happened in the city of Darkoush on the border with Turkey. A rights group says dozens of people were wounded in the blast and the death toll is expected to rise.
This comes as the search continues for seven aid workers who were kidnapped on Sunday. Mohammed Jamjoom is monitoring developments from CNN Beirut in neighboring Lebanon.
Mohammed, what are you piecing together about this kidnapping?
MOHAMMED JAMJOOM, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Pauline, everybody we're talking to is saying this really underscores just how dire the situation has gotten in Syria, just how bad it's become because of the civil war that's just going out of control there.
Now we've heard from the Red Cross yesterday six members of the International Red Cross in Syria as well as one volunteer for the Arab Red Crescent in Syria they were kidnapped as they were in Idlib Province, that's in the north of the country. They were there trying to distribute medical supplies. They had been out in the field sice October 10.
Now the Red Cross is calling for their immediate and unconditional release. Nobody has yet claimed responsibility for this kidnapping. And nothing has been heard from any of those who had been kidnapped since it happened on Sunday.
They Syrian government, through Syrian state media, has issued a statement in which they said that it was armed terrorists that kidnapped these members of the Red Cross and the Red Crescent at gun point, that they had opened fire on their vehicle before kidnapping them.
Of course, armed terrorist groups, that's the sort of catch all terminology that the Syrian government always uses when describing Syrian rebels, that they're engaged in fighting with.
That all being said, though, as bad as it is for humanitarian workers in Syria, and as hard as it is to deliver medical aid as far -- and humanitarian supplies, CNN spoke with the Red Cross. And spokesman for the ICRC just a short while ago, he said that the Red Cross has no intention of shutting down their vital operation in Syria at this time -- Pauline.
CHIOU: So they are not going to be intimidated.
We reported on the bombings that happened as well. Are the bombings and these kidnappings related?
JAMJOOM: Well, it's hard to know if they are related, but what looks to be happening right now is an escalation these last couple of days. Again, this really just shows how bad it is in Syria. At a time when there is so much talk about diplomacy, about the dismantling of Syrian chemical weapons programs, the fact of the matter is the civil war there rages on. It just keeps going. More and more people are killed -- since the start of the conflict, well over 100,000 people have been killed as a result. And many people think that that's an underestimate of the number of people that have been killed.
Now there was this bombing you spoke about earlier today, which has killed at least 20 people. There were the kidnappings yesterday. Also yesterday, there were two carbombings in the middle of Damascus very close to Umayyad Square. The Syrian government reported that these bombs were actually captured on tape, two suicide bombers detonating their vehicles very close to the Syrian state television studios.
And in fact there was a broadcast that was going on live when those explosions occurred. And you can actually see them on camera.
So this all suggests that it is getting worse at a time when there are diplomatic efforts, when there is a team on the ground there trying to dismantle the chamical weapons progra trying to make sure that that negotiation is adhered to and that Syria does turn over all its chemical weapons.
But again, the rebels aren't fighting, aren't stopping their fighting. The government isn't stopping battling the rebels. And it's the innocent Syrian civlians that are really caught in the middle of this horrible civil war that just grinds on -- Pauline.
CHIOU: And that's always the unfortunate aspect about this.
All right, Mohammed, thank you very much. That's Mohammed Jamjoom on the latest in this surge of violence.
Well, this year's Nobel Peace Prize winner is shining a light on chemical weapons stockpiles around the world. The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons receiced that honor. Its inspectors are busy working to destroy Syria's stockpile of deadly poisons. And today, Syria has become a part to the OPCW's weapons convention. So that is a big step forward.
But six countries haven't signed the treaty, including Israel, Egypt and North Korea. CNN's Fred Pleitgan joins me now live from Berlin.
Fred, the Nobel Peace Prize has brought so much more public awareness to this problem of chemical weapons in this world. Is that realistic to expect those remaining countries to sign on and ratify this chemical weapons convention?
FRED PLEITGEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the organization, Pauline, for the prohibition of chemical weapons certainly believes that its efforts will be bolstered by the fact that the organization has now received the Nobel Peace Prize. They think that this will creae momentum in the public sphere, also possiblity in parliaments in the countries that have not signed off -- signed on to the treaty, yet you have, of course, countries like Isreal, you have countries like Myanmar who have not signed the treaty, yet also Egypt as well.
And that's one of the dangerous things, of course, is that you still have these chemical weapons there in the Middle East area.
As you said, though, one of the big milestones happening today with Syria signing on to the chemical weapons convention and becoming the 190th member of the chemical weapons convention. Syria, of course, one of the countries in the world with the largest stockpiles of chemical weapons.
But again the OPCW and its chairman told me in an interview yesterday that he hopes that the Nobel Peace Prize will create additional momentum to make that treaty universal. Let's listen in.
AHMED UZUMCH, OPCW DIRECTOR: We were very surprised. And we learned about it only on Friday at 10:00. And the committee informed us that they would make the official announcement at 11:00. So it was really gratifying, of course. We were very honored.
PLEITGEN: The two things about the Nobel Prize isn't it? On the one hand it recognizes things that you've done in the past, but it also states that there are still things that need to be done to reach a world where there are no chemical weapons. What do you think this prize is going to do to bolster that effort?
UZUMCH: Actually, I hope that this prize will give new momentum to our search for full universality of the convention. There are still six countries which are outside of the organization, which we expect them to join the convention as early as possible. And the decision makers, I'm sure, will take this into account. For many of them there is no reason, in fact, to stay outside of the convention.
Once we achieve the full universality, of course, we will be in a better place to eliminate all those existing chemical weapons stockpiles and prevent their reemergence.
PLEITGEN: How far are we away from that? Because we know we've made a lot of headway, but there are still some out there.
UZUMCH: As to the remaining stockpiles, I think some years. But I can't say that many is probably 45 years would be enough to destroy the remaining stockpiles. And as to the new members, we don't know, of course, whether they possess chemical weapons or not. So once they will join, they will have to declare their possible possession of chemical weapons and then we'll have to deal with them.
PLEITGEN: How big a deal is Syria joining the convention now and becoming a member state? Because Syria was known to have one of the largest stockpiles, even though they were kind of veiled about the whole thing.
Actually, they're initial disclosure on 14th of September was close to our estimates. And now they are being examined, questions are being raised with the Syrian government. Their stockpiles are quite substantial, as you know. And we will -- we are working on possible methods of destruction.
Most of the chemical substances are in large containers. They are not weaponized, so this may facilitate our drop, in fact, to neutralize them and then to incinerate the toxic waste afterwards.
PLEITGEN: How much has been achieved so far?
UZUMCH: Actually, in terms of destruction, very little so far. Some warheads and bombs, empty bombs were destroyed in the presence of our inspectors, but also some production facilities and mixing and filling equipment were rendered unusable.
PLEITGEN: How is the Syrian government cooperating?
UZUMCH: We have found them quite cooperative and transparent. They were able to answer most of the questions. There are a few questions that need to be answered, but they are working on this.
But so far we have been satisfied with their cooperation.
PLEITGEN: Well, Pauline, of course that mission is still in its beginning stages, as you've just heard there. The weapons inspectors still have some 20 sites that they need to visit. They need to verify what sort of chemical weapons are there and then, of course, begin the process of destroying those chemical weapons and the very ambitious timeline is for Syria to have gotten rid and destroyed all its chemical weapons by the middle of 2014 -- Pauline.
CHIOU: That was a really revealing and very interesting interview there, Fred.
Now the inspectors that you were talking about, they had been on the ground in Syria since the beginning of October. Do you happen to know what their reaction was when they got that phone call that they received the Nobel Peace Prize.
PLEITGEN: Well, I asked the director-general about that as well. And he said that they were obviously absolutely thrilled to hear that their organization had won the Nobel Peace Prize. He also said quite frankly that it also did a lot for the morale of the team on the ground.
Now of course morale is a very important thing, he also said, especially when you're conducting an operation like that when you're dealing with the government like the one in Syria, which of course doesn't really have a track record of being very open and transparent and now has to be very transparent in a very short period of time. So there are a lot of difficulties that this team has to work through. Also, of course, that very hard security situation on the ground.
And he said certainly learning of the Nobel Peace Prize was something that really, really lifted the spirits of that team on the ground. By now there are 27 weapons inspectors of the OPCW who are on the ground and working in Syria.
And now, of course, they not only have a higher morale, but he also quite frankly said that he believes that winning the peace prize also bolsters their position vis-a-vis the Syrian government when it comes to negotiations between the OPCW and the Syrians as well, Pauline.
CHIOU: Yeah, hats off to those inspectors. Yeah, it's a tough job.
All right, Fred, thank you very much. Fred Pleitgen there live from Berlin.
The Israeli military says it has discovered an illegal tunnel running into the country from Gaza, the third discovered in the past year. More than a kilometer-and-a-half long and about 18 meters underground, Israel's military says the tunnel could only be used for one purpose. Jim Clancy has more from Jerusalem.
JIM CLANCY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Palestinian sources tell CNN Hamas began evacuating police stations and some office buildings in the Gaza Strip fearing a retaliatory strike after Israel uncovered what it branded to be a terror tunnel.
The tunnel was clearly not designed for the smuggling of food and fuel. And it came with a warning.
MAJ. GEN. SHLOMO TURGEMAN, COMMANDER, IDF SOUTHERN COMMAND (through translator): If the Hamas will carry out a terror operation, an operation from a terror tunnel, it will pay a heavy price. And I think Gaza will look different is such an attack is carried out.
CLANCY: The tunnel extended 1.7 kilometers, about an mile, from the Khan Unis (ph) refugee camp in northern Gaza, across the border into Israel and near the Kibbutz of Ain Hashlosha (ph). Israeli TV channel 10 broadcast video that showed the tunnel, which was at least 18 meters deep, wired for electricity and communications, and high enough for a man to stand, walk, or run through. It was fully lined with an estimated 500 tons of concrete on the top and both sides.
Israel announced it was halting supplies for concrete and construction materials going into Gaza. An Israeli reporter who was inside the tunnel said he saw markings and dates indicating the tunnel had been completed in July.
Israeli defense forces published a statement saying the most likely use for such a tunnel would be to kidnap Israeli soldiers or civilians and take them back into Gaza hoping to trade them for Palestinian prisoners.
TURGEMAN (through translator): We're talking about a whole industry and not a small group that is organizing it. This is a terror industry in every way recognizable.
CLANCY: A similar tunnel was used to kidnap IDF soldier Gilad Shalit (ph) in June of 2006. It ended five years later with Israel releasing more than 1,000 prisoners who were collectively accused of killing hundreds of Israelis.
This latest tunnel discovery increases fears on the Israeli side for its sheer size and sophistication. The Israeli military says it is operating under the assumption there are more tunnels out there.
Jim Clancy, CNN, Jerusalem.
CHIOU: You're watching News Stream. Coming up, we'll take you under the sea to learn more about the mysterious movements of the Great White Shark.
CHIOU: On today's Art of Movement, they've been around for 450 million years yet we still know so little about the Great White Shark. Nick Glass headed out to sea to learn more about these mysterious creatures.
NICK GLASS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We're on board and expedition with OCEARCH to learn more about the movements of the Atlantic Great White Shark. All morning, a helicopter had been scanning the sea and they had news for the team on board the Contender.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, Norman, go ahead, this is the Contender.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (inaudible) I've got one very close to the beach.
GLASS: Finally, it took the bait.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It just ate it, just ate it.
Get it all together.
GLASS: Back on board the OCEARCH, the excitement was mounting. Suddenly, we could see a shark fin and the fish being brought to us.
The scientists have just 15 minutes to attach tags and carry out tests. She was given an ultrasound. Blood and tissue samples were taken. She was weighed and measured: 2,300 pounds, 14 foot, 2 inches long.
A GPS tag was drilled and bolted to the side of her dorsal fin. And something called an accelerometer attached to the base.
She's only the fifth shark ever to be fitted with one.
NICK WITNEY, SCIENTIST, OCEARCH: It's basically giving us every single movement the shark makes on a second by second basis. So we can tell the tale beats. We can tell how strongly they're beating their tale, how quickly they're beating their tale.
GLASS: At Harvard University in Boston, we got a more detailed explanation of why sharks are such brilliant swimmers.
PROF. GEORGE LAUDER, HARVARD UNIVERSITY: Now this shark here, if you feel the surface of the shark, you can feel the roughness. It's smoother in one direction and it's a little more rough in this direction.
GLASS: It does feel like sandpaper.
LAUDER: It does feel like sandpaper. And the surface structures that you're feeling are quite small. They're about the thickness of human hair, each individually like the human tooth. They're made of dentine. They have enamel. They have a pulp cavity. So your teeth actually are made with the same genes that makes the individual bumps on the surface of a shark.
A shark with a roughened surface structure will swim through the water with less drag than a shark that was absolutely smooth.
GLASS: You could say that in a sense Great Whites are pretty much all teeth.
You can see thousands and thousands of television documentaries about the Great White Shark, but nothing, absolutely nothing prepares you for this, to actually see one in the flesh and that this distance.
They're about to put it back in the water.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This shark is named Catherine.
Good luck, old girl.
GLASS: Catherine didn't want to swim out the way she came in. So she was coaxed around by the tail, slipped way with $10,000 worth of scientific equipment attached.
In the past month alone, she's been circling Cape Cod, covering almost 200 miles. Where she goes next is a mystery, but we will find out. Every move she makes, every dive she takes, someone will be watching her.
CHIOU: Well, fishermen in Hong Kong have a way to keep supply meeting demand. Coming up next on News Stream, I'll tell you how fish farming has become a booming business. And how some farmers have gone high tech.
CHIOU: You're watching News Stream. Let's return to our visual rundown now. In a few minutes, we'll show you just how much one fan loves the film "The Shining." But let's stay in Hong Kong for now where the seas are getting rougher for traditional fishermen. A decline of wild fish in local waters has led to the rise of fish farming where they're raised in enclosures and sold as food.
We went to one fish farm to check out the science and the business behind it all.
CHIOU: The catch of the day landed at Hong Kong's Aberdeen fish market. While this huge grouper is set to make a local dining table groan, the city's live fish industry is facing leaner times.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Business, it's quite hard to do business now, because there is not much supply. There are just not that many fish in the sea.
CHIOU: Yet the demand for live seafood in Hong Kong and Mainland China continues to grow. Each day, boats unload around 30 tons of fish at this market with wild fish coming from hundreds of miles away.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Actually, there aren't many fish from local waters. I think less than 5 percent of them. Only around 20 percent of our fish stocks come from the sea, most of them, around 80 percent, are from fish farms.
CHIOU: Fish farms like this one have thrived with the decline of wild fish stocks. They are starting to attract some big fish. In a high rise in the city, the science of fish farming is being perfected.
LLOYD MOSKALIK, MANAGING DIRECTOR, OCEANETHIX: There's about 80,000 tons of water sitting on the 15th floor of an industrial building.
CHIOU: OceanEthix is operating an environmentally friendly system to grow and keep live fish indoors. Their operation looks like a scene from a science fiction movie with the blue lights simulating the deep sea.
MOSKALIK: The ones we're growing at the moment, the most expensive would be selling for about 90 to 100 U.S. dollars a kilogram wholesale. The price has been ratcheting up on 10 to 15 percent per annum for the past five or six years.
CHIOU: And that means good business. Live fish are $1 billion a year industry.
CHIOU: OceanEthix says it operates the fish farm in a tightly controlled environment using clean recycled water to keep disease out. It says its fish have a higher survival rate than traditional outdoor fish farms.
Well, CNN has learned that Warner Brothers is in the early stages of developing a movie sequel to The Shining. It has been 33 years since Jack Nicholson and Shelly Duvall kept theater audiences on the edge of their seats. Niscelle Turner tells us why fans just can't let go of this horror classic.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just a huge love for it.
NISCHELL TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Howard Simpt is a sculptor who is fascinated with a particular movie.
(on camera): Look at that face.
(voice-over): Yes, that movie. Such a fan of Stanley Cobert's "The Shining" he decided to pay tribute to it, down to the last detail, including the psychotic father.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All hand punched hair, all one by one.
TURNER: His psychic son -- and of course, the so-called twins.
(on camera): What's going on in that head that makes you wanted to create these type of things?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is kind of a fan thing, like the best horror movie ever made.
TURNER (voice-over): Simpt is not the only "Shining" obsessive. In fact, the movie has been getting a lot of attention lately, more than three decades after it first came out. More than a quarter million people trekked through a recent exhibit on Kubrick at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, the most popular room in the show, the one devoted to "The Shining."
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These are special effects that were used in the film, the real thing.
TURNER: Artist, Patti Podesta, designed the exhibit.
PATTI PODESTA, LACMA KUBRICK EXHIBIT DESIGNER: This is one of the typewriters that was used and this is the knife. She said it was a kitchen knife he took from the kitchen one day saying this is the right knife.
TURNER: In 2013 also brought release of a new documentary about all the theories surrounding secret meetings Kubrick may have hidden in his films. Tim Kirk produced the film called "Room 237" aimed for the spooky suite in a hotel.
TIM KIRK, PRODUCER, "ROOM 237": All of these films, they found things that help support their theories.
TURNER: One of the theorists, Jeffrey Cox, historian at Albion College in Michigan. He is convinced he put coded messages into "The Shining" about the horrors in Nazi Germany.
KIRK: References to the holocaust in particular found a place in almost all films, certainly "The Shining" it represents the bureaucratic machinery.
TURNER: Whether it holds water or oceans of blood is a matter of opinion. He spent months sculpting the characters, says he enjoys the movie for what it is.
(on camera): How many times have you seen it?
HOWARD SENFT, SCULPTOR: Can't tell you, especially working on them, I was almost done with it when I was done with the project, take a little break.
TURNER: Can't watch it again. Then you watched it again.
SENFT: Yes, I'll probably watch it tonight.
(voice-over): Nischelle Turner, CNN, Los Angeles.
CHIOU: Oh, those twins, enough to give me nightmares there.
Well, just a reminder that The Shining is a Warner Brothers movie. And Warners Brothers is part of the same parent company as CNN.
And that is News Stream. World Business Today is coming up next.