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No Deal, But U.S. Government Shutdown Closer To Ending; Earthquake Strikes Central Philippines; Leading Women: Eva Chen; Abu Anas al-Libi Arrives In New York; Saudi Women Drive In Defiance Of Rule; After Hundreds Drown, Italian Government Steps Up Shore Patrols
Aired October 15, 2013 - 08:00 ET
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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.
An alleged al Qaeda operative snatched by U.S. military team in Tripoli is due to appear in a New York courtroom shortly.
A powerful quake strikes the central Philippines near the resort island of Cebu.
And what is an ordinary occurrence in most parts of the world is an act of defiance in Saudi Arabia: women driving cars.
Abu Anas al-Libi is expected to appear in federal court in New York later today. An elite U.S. army team captured him outside his home in Libya's capital Tripoli 10 days ago.
Now the alleged al Qaeda operative was interrogated on board a U.S. Navy ship last week. And he is accused of being involved in bombings at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998.
Now the al-Libi case reignites a debate about prosecuting international terror suspects in U.S. courts rather than military ones like at Guantanamo Bay.
Now Deborah Feyerick is outside the courthouse in New York. She joins us now live.
And Deborah, what will happen in court today?
DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, what we expect to happen is Anas al-Libi will be brought here to the federal courthouse. He will appear before a judge. And you've got to keep in mind that he was indicted more than a dozen years ago in connection with the U.S. embassy bombing.
He was one of Osama bin Laden's senior aides. He cased one of the embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and took surveillance photos, photos that were used to help plan and execute the attack, an attack that killed more than 200 people, including American personnel.
So he's going to be brought here. He was questioned by members of the high value detainee team, their skilled interrogators. They were trying to get information. This is somebody who was in al Qaeda, really its formative years at the beginning stages. What he knows now, his family says look he was living in Libya. He was trying to have a normal life, applying for a job as at the Libyan oil ministry.
But again, he will be here to face the charges that he helped in these attacks -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: And why is al-Libi, an international terror suspect, sent to New York as opposed to Guantanamo Bay?
FEYERICK: Well, that's one of the things that -- you know this has been long discussion as you mention. And part of it is, is because he was indicted, he was indicted along with Osama bin Laden. He was indicted along with Ayman al-Zawahiri who was the number two person, now the leader of al Qaeda. He was indicted along with other U.S. embassy bombers who were found guilty and are serving time in Super Max prisons.
Prosecutors believe that this was the right venue, because this is where he was charged. When you attack American interests abroad, then it goes into the federal court system. And so that's why it's playing out as it is, Kristie.
LU STOUT: And can you tell us about the track record in the government prosecuting terror cases in civilian courts as opposed to military courts? And I ask because the relatively recent trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, that one comes to mind.
FEYERICK: Sure. And as a matter of fact, look, the federal prosecutors here certainly in the southern district they are very skilled at dealing with high terrorism cases. They successfully prosecuted the four men who did the attack on the U.S. embassy bombing. There have been multiple cases that they have been able to try, take to the court system, get lawyers for these individuals and get it done.
In the case of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, there were issues that perhaps he would come here. After much discussion the government changed its mind and he went through a military court system.
So there's always a back and forth discussion as to where they should be tried, but the U.S., as far as successfully prosecuting international terrorists, this is one of the courts that has among the highest track records.
LU STOUT: All right, Deborah Feyerick reporting live from New York for us. Thank you, Deb.
Now according to the Washington Post, meanwhile, the U.S. National Security Agency is collecting hundreds of millions of contact lists from personal email accounts around the world. Now the newspaper says instant messaging services also being targeted.
Now the Post reports that the NSA uses the lists to search for possible connections between foreign intelligence targets. And the Post sites top secret documents provided by the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.
Now, so, it looks like that we can add address books to the list of data that the NSA can allegedly access. But what else? Well, there's phone records from one U.S. company. Back in June, The Guardian reported a secret court order gave phone records for millions of Verizon users to the NSA.
And if you use any internet service from Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook your data could be compromised.
Now also in June this year, The Guardian, the Washington Post reported PRISM, it gave the NSA access to user data from those companies, including email photos and online browsing history.
And then it was alter revealed by The New York Times that the NSA was using data like that to build social maps.
Now analysts can chart a person's social ties, locations at certain times and their traveling companions.
And if all this is scaring you into using encryption to keep your online data private, well, we've got some bad news for you, too. Recent reports say the NSA has also been developing its ability to crack common Internet encryptions. In fact, The New York Times and The Guardian suggests that they are doing that by using supercomputers, or secret court orders, or by inserting backdoors in popular tech products.
Now the U.S. government shutdown has entered a third week. And while there is no firm action yet, politicians are talking up progress.
Now a deal is said to be in the works that could reopen the government and crucially increase the debt ceiling, at least for several months.
Now senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta has more.
SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV), MAJORITY LEADER: We know it's been a difficult time for everyone.
ACOSTA (voice-over): Lo and behold, two experienced Capitol Hill brawlers, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, may have found the path to budget piece in Washington.
REID: We are not there yet, but a tremendous progress, and everyone just needs to be patient.
ACOSTA: Both men shared the news on the Senate floor that they are close to a deal that would reopen the government and raise the nation's debt ceiling before a potential default in less than two days.
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), MINORITY LEADER: I think it's safe to say we have made substantial progress and we look forward to making more progress in the near future.
REPORTER: Is there a deal?
ACOSTA: But as Vice President Joe Biden indicated by staying mum on the subject, it's not over yet.
Here is how the deal would work: The government funded through mid- January. The debt ceiling extended to early February. In a nod to GOP opposition to Obamacare, changes to that law are also under consideration, including new income verification requirements for health care subsidies.
Those are tweaks to Obamacare the president may not support but he is all but pressuring the Republicans to take the Senate deal.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If Republicans aren't willing to set aside some of their partisan concerns in order to do what is right for the country, we stand a good chance of defaulting.
ACOSTA: A new ABC News/"The Washington Post" poll finds the public is furious with the GOP, with 74 percent saying they disapproval how Republicans have handled budget negotiations, versus 53 percent who feel the same about the president.
But some House Republicans are holding their ground, still demanding concessions.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I like to do something that he gets something. I get something.
ACOSTA: Democratic Senator Barbara Boxer compared the GOP tactics to acts of violence.
SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D), CALIFORNIA: When you start acting like you're committing domestic abuse, you've got a problem. "I love you, dear, but, you know, I'm shutting down your entire government."
ACOSTA: Jim Acosta, CNN, Washington.
LU STOUT: Now this is News Stream. And coming up this hour, devastation in the Philippines: dozens killed as an earthquake strikes on a national holiday.
And new details on the investigation into the missing British girl Madeleine McCann. Now six years on we'll tell you why police are searching for this man.
And behind the wheel with women in Saudi Arabia. We'll meet the women demanding social change in the kingdom.
LU STOUT: Welcome back. You're watching News Stream. And you're looking at a visual version of all the stories we've got in the show today.
Now we started with a suspected al Qaeda operative appearing in court in New York. And a little bit later a look at how Saudi women are defying a ban against driving cars. But now we turn to a powerful earthquake striking the Philippines.
Now a national holiday has turned into a day of disaster in the Philippines. At least 49 people have been killed in a powerful earthquake there. It had a magnitude of 7.1. And it was centered near a town in Bojo Province (ph).
Now it struck early on Tuesday, reducing many buildings to rubble as the country celebrated the beginning of the Muslim festive of Eid al Adha.
Now rescue and recovery efforts are underway with at least 33 people still missing. And authorities fear that many may be still trapped inside collapsed buildings.
And let's get more now on this deadly earthquake with Mari Ramos. She joins us from the World Weather Center -- Mari.
MARI RAMOS, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Just amazing images there coming out of that region. And as night falls, of course people are still shaking at times, literally, because there have been so many aftershocks, at least 10 of them at a 5.0 range or higher. Definitely sensible quakes and people, of course, on edge across this region.
You mention the area affected right here across the southern portion of the central Philippines, 7.1 at a depth of only 20 kilometers. So that is a relatively shallow quake. And of course that's what you see one of the reasons I should say that you see so much of the damage.
I want to show you something, Kristie, kind of interesting. I showed you this before. And if you were on Twitter yesterday, or earlier today, I should say, for your time here in the Philippines, you saw this. This is the shake map from the U.S. Geological Survey. And it kind of gives us an indication where the strongest shaking happened. And of course nearest the epicenter.
This is the island of Bohol, Cebu City right up here to the north. And there's the scale, the darker the colors to get back over toward the red. It would be extreme. We don't have any of that in this case, but we definitely have the strong, the very strong and even shades of the severe shaking along these areas here.
Now I know that you've had earthquakes in the past in this area and there are many homes and buildings that are earthquake resistant, but there are many also that are not. And that is one of the big concerns.
The other thing I'm showing you here is the population. You see these large kind of lines that come up here on this grid. This shows us the population density in these areas. And of course Cebu City, a large population density, much less than we have over here in Bohol where the strongest shaking was felt.
Less severe shaking, that would include about 885,000 people, according to this estimate from the U.S. Geological Survey and that very strong, or strong shaking combined, this entire region that you're looking at, the population density is over 1.8 million people. So this is a widespread area, a densely populated area that was affected by this earthquake. And we're seeing so much damage.
Let's go ahead and roll the pictures, kind of give you an idea, again, what we're looking at.
Landslides, a huge concern. In this mountainous area, when you have such strong shaking, landslides are a problem. And if we get rain, that problem will continue, unfortunately, because the ground is loose.
There are areas that are harder to get to, because of roadways that have buckled, like the ones that you see here, cracks on the road, some bridges that have been damaged and there schools were closed across this area earlier today, so authorities could inspect those buildings to make sure that they were safe for students to return to.
So that's the kind of thing that we're looking at in many of the larger buildings like churches that you see here have been significantly damaged, some of these older buildings that are probably not reinforced for earthquakes.
Come back over to the weather map as far as conditions here, just some scattered rainshowers expected in the overnight hours across these areas.
Let's go ahead and switch gears now, because I do want to talk to you about these other storms. Wipha here to the north and Nari making landfall in Vietnam.
Let's start with the typhoon headed toward Japan. Now wind 150 kilometer per hour winds, that's already pretty impressive. We have rain already that is moving across these areas. And the storm, even if it passes just to the east of you, I think it's going to be close enough that you could have some significant impacts from this.
Kristie, this is extremely important, especially for this densely populated areas right over here, right around Tokyo Bay, yeah, including Tokyo proper.
This surprised me, 300 millimeters of rain in the forecast for Tokyo. So we're going to see some significant flooding from this. There are flood warnings already issued. There are landslide warnings that have been issued across this area. And of course your typhoon warnings that go along with that.
This is the picture from Da Nang. Already the storm here, Typhoon Nari making earlier today. Some of the rainfall totals pretty impressive across these areas as well.
What's going to happen next? Well, the storm will continue moving inland. And that rain will continue moving inland with it. That means inundated areas already of Vietnam, of Laos, of Cambodia and of Thailand are going to see even more flooding. Even though they had been dry over the last few days, here comes the rain again from Nari.
Back to you.
LU STOUT: Yeah, another big storm in the region for us here. Mari Ramos there, thank you.
Now, meanwhile in eastern India, at least 21 people were killed after a powerful cyclone hit over the weekend. But many feared the impact would be far worse.
Now a similar storm in 1999 killed 10,000 people. Now this time, authorities worked hard to evacuate close to a million.
Mallika Kapur reports.
MALLIKA KAPUR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Odisha 1999, a fierce cyclone leaves 10,000 dead.
This month, another cyclone found Odisha. The death toll is 21.
"We knew beforehand. We had been warned," this slum resident says.
The Ajim (ph) family says the local government saved their lives. They were evacuated to a shelter a day before the cyclone hit. 14 years ago, they were not so lucky.
"Last time, no one knew there would be a cyclone. Everyone was holding their children and running, falling. Some buildings fell, schools fell," says Akta Rumparvin (ph).
Two people in her family died. Her house became a cremation ground.
India has changed since then. Roads and basic infrastructure have improved, making it easier to mobilize people. A telecommunication revolution means almost everyone has access to a cell phone.
PRADIPTA KUMAR MOHAPATRA, SPECIAL RELIEF COMMISSIONER: Then we were technology (inaudible) very backward. Even, I remember, two days prior when -- prior to the cyclone hitting, we're not having adequate information. Now, we knew precisely when the cyclone originally in Thailand. We are monitoring every hour.
KAPUR: High tech information disseminated in a low tech way.
Many residents lived right here during the 1999 cyclone before these children were born. They say this time, though, it was different. They knew the cyclone was coming, because they'd heard about it on the television, they read about it in the papers. Plus, they say a local government official came knocking on each door telling people they must evacuate.
The Ajim (ph) family and their neighbors moved into a local school, one of almost 300 shelters set up along India's northeast coast.
Lives were saved, because of early and orderly evacuations. As these adults watched their neighborhood come alive again, they say their glad their home. And I bet children can play freely because, as Sheikh (ph) says, this time the government got it right.
Mallika Kapur, CNN, Bhubaneswar, India.
LU STOUT: Coming up on News Stream, six years after young Madeleine McCann disappeared, police are now searching for this man. We'll bring you the latest on this extensive investigation after the break.
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Now it has been six years since Madeleine McCann vanished from her parents holiday villa in Portugal. And now British police are on the hunt for a man they want to speak to about the disappearance of the then 3-year- old girl. And Madeleine's parents have come forth with a new plea. Erin McLaughlin has more.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A new plea from the parents of Madeleine McCann.
KATE MCCANN, MOTHER OF MADELEINE MCCANN: Please, please have the courage and confidence to come forward now and share that information with us to unlock this whole case.
MCLAUGHLIN: And a chilling memory. Now six years old. Kate McCann described the moment she realized her three-year-old daughter was missing from their holiday apartment in Portugal.
K. MCCANN: I was looking at Madeleine's bed and I couldn't -- I couldn't make it out. And then I realized that she's not in that bed. I wondered if she had woken up and had gone to our bed. She wasn't in our bed. And that was -- that was the first time that I guess, you know, panic kicked in.
MCLAUGHLIN: It's all part of an international appeal to the public for more information about Madeleine's disappearance.
CHIEF INSPECTOR ANDY REDWOOD, METROPOLITAN POLICE: Even if it's 0.4 percent chance that she's alive, we will continue to fight for her.
MCLAUGHLIN: Part of the push, Scotland Yard releasing computer generated sketches of a man they say was in the area at the time Madeleine vanished.
REDWOOD: The man who is white with dark hair, had a child in his arms, the child is described as being between three and four years of age with blond hair possibly wearing pajamas. So that itself is already significant information.
MCLAUGHLIN: A 25-minute re-enactment of that night has also been shown on television, giving an updated timeline, which has allowed them to eliminate old theories and explore new avenues in the investigation. Madeleine's parents say they have never given up hope that they will find their little girl.
GERRY MCCANN, MADELEINE MCCANN'S FATHER: We don't know what's happened to Madeleine. We don't know who has taken her. Probably our best chance of finding her is identifying that person.
K. MCCANN: Just imagine how much heartsick we've put ourselves through so long as, you know, we get the result that we need.
MCLAUGHLIN: Erin McLaughlin, CNN, London.
LU STOUT: Now with thousands of refugees desperate to reach Europe and willing to cross the Mediterranean in small, overloaded boats, it's no wonder so many have lost their lives recently, now hundreds in the last two weeks alone.
And now Italy has decided to step up its response.
Matthew Chance has the story.
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Survivors of the latest migrant shipwreck spotted by Italy's airborne coastal patrols, pulled from the waves after their overcrowded boat sank far from land, whole families are among the rescued, but they're the lucky ones. Thousands of migrants attempt to enter Europe by this perilous route every year. In recent weeks, hundreds have died trying prompting Italy with immediate affect to triple its Mediterranean patrols.
ENRICO LETTA, ITALIAN PRIME MINISTER (through translator): We cannot wait for the parliaments or the European institutions when we are talking about human lives. We have to act immediately when in the middle there are poor women and children's lives. We must act now.
CHANCE: With so many fleeing war in Africa and the Middle East, willing to risk everything for a better life, Italy is calling for a broader European response.
But the recent heavy loss of life, including more than 350 migrants drowned when their boat capsized off the Italian island of Lampedusa has horrified Europeans.
As well as the increase in Italian air and sea patrols, which includes aircraft with nightvision capabilities. The Italian media is also reporting that unmanned drones based in Sicily could also be used to identify migrant boats in trouble.
The country's foreign minister says the patrols would be to help save migrants lives, not just to tell them to stay where they are.
But in Lampedusa earlier this month, aid workers told me more patrols are not the answer. Instead, cooperation is needed with North African countries like Libya where migrants often begin their sea journeys.
BARBARA MOLINARI, UNHCR CASEWORKER: One thing is certain, there is still a lot of work that needs to be done in terms of creating the right conditions for protection of asylum seekers and refugees in Libya. UNHCR is working in Libya, so we are working together with the authorities there, but still a lot of work needs to be done.
CHANCE: But for some, it's too late. At the cargo port in Sicily there are so many shipwreck victims, port workers are forced to use a forklift truck to unload coffins three at a time, one final indignity for the immigrants who didn't make it.
Matthew Chance, CNN, London.
LU STOUT: Now still to come here on News Stream, we hear from the driving forces behind a campaign to put Saudi women behind the wheel literally and legally.
And is it exclusive to Islam? Why Christians writing for a newspaper in Malaysia can no longer refer to god as Allah.
LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream and these are your world headlines.
Now direct talks between Iran and six world powers are underway in Geneva. Now they are discussing Iran's nuclear program which Tehran has always said is only for civilian use.
Now Iran's foreign minister says he hopes a roadmap toward a final resolution can be agreed to. The EU says the ball is in Iran's court.
Now suspected al Qaeda operative Abu Anas al-Libi will appear in a New York federal court later today. Now he is accused of playing a role in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998. And over the weekend, al-Libi was transferred from a U.S. navy ship where he was interrogated by intelligence agents. And he was captured in a U.S. military raid in Tripoli, Libya.
U.S. lawmakers are nearing a potential deal to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling before Thursday's looming deadline. Now sources tell CNN that under the plan the debt ceiling would be increased until early February. Now Democratic and Republican leaders of the Senate say that they are hopeful a resolution will be reached.
Now British police say that they have received almost 500 tips from the public and responds to sketches of a man they want to speak to about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. They say two people have independently come up with the same name for him.
Now Madeleine was 3-years-old when she vanished from a resort in Portugal in 2007.
Now it looked like a scene out of a movie, but it was all too real for one motorcyclist on the streets of Sao Paolo, Brazil. A gunman tried to take his bike. And the whole drama was captured on video as it unfolded.
Now Shasta Darlington has the dramatic pictures.
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It started as a fast afternoon drive on his Honda Hornet, but then the Brazilian man was attacked at gunpoint when he stopped at an intersection in Sao Paolo, all of it captured on his helmet cam.
Before the assailant could get away on the stolen bike, an off-duty cop suddenly appeared and shot him. The thief ended up in the hospital and the man who didn't want to be identified got his bike back.
The attempted robbery took place right here in broad daylight on Saturday afternoon. Now the video has gone viral and really divided Brazil, a country where unfortunately motorcycle and car jackings are common place at intersections like this.
Police say the officer, who was on his way home from work, first shouted a warning and then fired in self defense when the thief grabbed for his gun.
In this crime ridden area, shop owners cheered the response.
"I take my hat off to the policeman," says this woman. "He did what he had to."
But other Brazilians say he acted prematurely and recklessly.
The motorcyclist didn't have any doubts. In the video, you can hear him talking to the injured thief.
"Now you can rob in hell," he says. "You're not going to get my bike."
Shasta Darlington, CNN, Sao Paolo.
LU STOUT: Incredible footage there.
Now meanwhile in socially conservative Saudi Arabia, religious edicts and for many laws and conventions, and because of that women are not allowed to drive. But a new movement, spearheaded by women themselves, is calling for change to bring the nation in line with the rest of the world and let women get into the driver's seat.
Now that campaign, the activists say, is gaining momentum. The women who defied the ban still face possible arrest.
And Mohammed Jamjoom joins me from CNN Beirut with more on the story - - Mohammed.
MOHAMMED JAMJOOM, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Kristie, a growing number of Saudi women have had it with being amongst the most oppressed women in the world. They are now demanding their rights and they've started a campaign in which they are showing their defiance by driving.
JAMJOOM: The message from Adiha al-Ajoush (ph) couldn't be clearer: Saudi women are now more emboldened than ever, ready to get in the driver's seat, an ordinary act for women around the world, but an act of defiance for women in Saudi Arabia, the only country in the world where women are not allowed to drive.
Al-Ajoush (ph), a mother, psychotherapist and activist was arrested along with dozens of other women more than 20 years ago for driving, but she is back behind the wheel and posting it online.
Joining other women, like the ones you see here, who have uploaded videos of themselves driving in different parts of the kingdom.
There's this woman describing the simple pleasures of picking up her children and taking them home.
In another video, Saudi men appear to show their support, waving as they pass the woman driver on the highway. The videos are messages to their leaders and to the world.
TAMADOR ALYAMI, SAUDI BLOGGER AND OPINION WRITER: It's our right. We have to act for it. And we can't act for it and be passive at the same time. So...
JAMJOOOM: Activist Tamador Alyami is calling on women to do even more. She's a supporter of the online movement, a campaign urging women to defy the driving ban by getting behind the wheel on October 26.
ALYAMI: I'm willing to take the risk, because, you know, it's time for change. And we've got to step up for it. If not us, who is going to do that.
JAMJOOM: Indeed, Alyami recently went through a sprint through the streets of Jeddah, then shared the video online just like the other women, despite the fact that they can be arrested for doing so.
In 2011, activist Manal al-Sharif (ph) who helped start the driving movement was jailed for nine days after uploading a video showing her behind the wheel. She became a hero to many.
And just last week, Iman al-Afjan (ph), one of the current campaign's organizers, was stopped by police while riding with and filming a female driver.
But supporters like Alyami aren't deterred. She says Saudi laws that require women to have male guardians and don't allow them freedom of movement have to change.
ALYAMI: Women are equal to men now in education and work, everywhere, you know. They have to feel free to go around, to drive themselves, to take hold of their own lives.
JAMJOOM: It's a journey she's happy to be on, even though the road ahead might be long.
JAMJOOM: You know, Kristie, one of the most interesting things about this current campaign is that a lot of the women I've spoken with have told me that even when they've been in traffic there, some of them in bumper to bumper traffic in some of the major cities in Saudi Arabia, they say they're getting a lot of support. They say, many of them, that they've even been spotted by traffic police who have let them pass by.
And one of the campaign's organizers Iman al-Afjan (ph) who we spoke about in the report who was stopped by police last week for being in the passenger seat of a car that was being driven by a woman. She says that the police were quite nice to them. She says that it wasn't the traffic police that stopped them, it was the regular police. And it seemed like they really didn't know what to do. It seems like the officials there are quire worried about this campaign gaining momentum. They don't really want to arrest the women, according to the activists that I'm saying, but they're not quite sure how to handle the growing momentum of this campaign -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yeah, growing momentum, as you mentioned. A lot of support for the women as well.
Now this mass call to drive on October 26, Mohammed, that is just over a week away. So judging from what you've seen, the online protests, the response, what kind of turnout could we see?
JAMJOOM: You know, by all indications we're seeing right now it looks like the turnout could be quite big. Now we should add that quite big by Saudi standards is not big by western standards. We're talking dozens, maybe hundreds of women. That would make it a very big deal in Saudi Arabia.
But so many of the women that I've spoken with who plan to drive on October 26 say they didn't even want to wait until October 26, that's why they've already been posting videos of themselves last week and this week.
And I should add that the campaign itself, the online petition, which has garnered over 14,000 -- actually over 15,000 signatures since this campaign was launched in late September, that website was actually shutdown, according to activists in Saudi Arabia. It's blocked for Saudi users and yet still people are logging on, they're finding a way beyond the firewall, signing up, posting videos of themselves onto YouTube, sending them into that campaign website.
So it really seems to have taken root right now. And it'll be very interesting to see what happens on October 26. And if there is any kind of a mass protest that day, what the reaction of the government will be -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: And you've been talking to a number of women involved in that campaign, including the Saudi female blogger, her name Iman al-Nafjan (ph) who supports that driving campaign, that protest to take place later next week, she was detained recently. Can you tell us what happened to her?
JAMJOOM: Yeah, well she's been filming a lot of women, a lot of colleagues of hers, and friends of hers and just regular Saudi women who want to drive. She will go with them in their cars and film them and actually be live tweeting about it. And she's the one who filmed the video where you saw in the report where you saw the men passing by and waving and giving the thumb's up.
It was the day after that, it was last week, she was in a car with a Saudi friend of hers, they were driving through Riyadh. They were stopped by the police, but she says that they were quite nice to them, that this was not the traffic police, this was just the regular police in Riyadh.
She says that they were told by the police that they were stopped because there were some people that were calling the police station complaining that Iman was live tweeting about where they were and that, you know, they shouldn't be allowed to do this, because technically this was illegal.
But she says that, you know, she wasn't at the station that long. She did have to eventually sign a piece of paper saying she would not go for a drive again, would not film women driving again.
I asked her if she would really stick to that promise. She says, look, it doesn't really matter what I do, this movement is about much more than me, it's about Saudi women. It's about people in Saudi Arabia. And there are a lot of men that are expressing their support right now. Some men even uploading videos where they are showing their wives and mothers how to drive in Saudi Arabia.
So again, this really seems to be taking root in a way much different than the previous campaigns and garnering a lot more support in Saudi Arabia, even though there are parts of the country that do still oppose the idea of women driving -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: All right, Mohammed Jamjoom reporting on the daring and inspiring women behind the wheel in Saudi Arabia and of course the men who support them. Thank you very much indeed, Mohammed.
Now in Malaysia, a heated religious debate there is underway over who should be allowed to use the term Allah. Now both Christians and Muslims in the country refer to god as Allah, but Muslims say that the word should be exclusive to Islam.
Now CNN's Ram Ramgopal reports an appeals court has agreed.
RAM RAMGOPAL, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Outside a Malaysian court of appeals where three judges ruled unanimously that a Christian newspaper cannot use the word Allah to refer to god.
It's a case that's been going on for years. The newspaper's editor argues that Allah is just a Malay and Arabic word for god.
LAWRENCE ANDREW, EDITOR, THE HERALD: God is an integral part of every religion we have. Allah is a term in the Middle East and in Indonesia it is a term that is used by both Christians and Muslims. And so you cannot say that it all of a sudden it is not an integral part.
Malay language is a language that has many borrowed words. Allah itself is a borrowed word.
RAMGOPAL: But many in majority Muslim Malaysia, as well as the government, think the word should be exclusive to Islam and the court agreed.
In 2009, the high court ruled in favor of the Christian newspaper The Herald saying it could use Allah in literature printed in the country's native language. The ruling sparked violent protests and at least six churches were firebombed.
Monday's demonstrations are peaceful, but pointed.
JAFRIZQAL AHMAD JAAFAR, MUSLIM SUPPORTER (through translator): As a Muslim, it is our religious duty to protect the word Allah. That's why we're here to show our support.
RAMGOPAL: Lawyers for the paper will appeal, arguing for its rights as a minority owned publication.
ANDREW: The nation must support and protect the rights of the minorities. So we should not be discouraged, because in this land we still have the law and we still can hope for our rights to be exercised.
RAMGOPAL: The ruling comes amid rising ethnic and religious tension after May's close and polarizing election.
Ram Ramgopal, CNN, Atlanta.
LU STOUT: Now Burburry's CEO is leaving the company for Apple. Now Angela Ahrendts will take over at a new job that combine's Apple's retail stores and its online store. Apple currently doesn't have any executive heading its retail team. John Browett left the company after only a few months at the helm last year.
Now meanwhile, BlackBerry has placed an open letter in several newspapers saying, quote, "you can continue to count on BlackBerry." Now the letter details what they believe to be some of the company's strengths, boasting that they are debt free, talking about security, highlighting BBM, their messaging platform.
And while the company tries to highlight the positives, unfortunately we know all too well about its troubles.
Now BlackBerry bet it all on their new BB10 operating system, but reviews have not been kind. In fact, Adrian Covert of CNN Money says, quote, "everything still feels a generation behind."
And BlackBerry's marketshare has fallen dramatically. IDC says it had less than 3 percent of the smartphone OS market in the second quarter of 2013. To put it another way, more Android phones were shipped in four days than BlackBerry shipped in three months.
Now you're watching News Stream. And still ahead, this man, he survived 19 days stranded in the wilderness. And just ahead, we'll tell you what he had to eat to stay alive.
LU STOUT: Welcome back.
Now this week on Leading Women, we meet a trailblazing CEO who says she dares her employees to fail. Eva Chen is one of the few women top executives in global IT. And her innovative approach to helping employees achieve their potential by learning from mistakes let's your company to the very top of its field.
LU STOUT: You can call her a super commuter -- from Taiwan to Tokyo to California all in just seven days, a typical week for Eva Chen as CEO of tech company Trend Micro.
EVA CHEN, CEO, TREND MICRO: Trend Micro is a global company. We always say we are a security company. And cyber criminals are global, so cyber policemen has to be global.
LU STOUT: Trend Micro is the third largest online security software company in the world, a leader in cloud security, they say their goal is to protect user data and create a safe place for digital sharing.
CHEN: What you talking about a user, not end point.
LU STOUT: When it comes to running her company and her life, Chen takes a bold approach.
(on camera): Your personal motto is dance your best dance and let others dance theirs.
CHEN: We are in the knowledge economy, right. The knowledge will create most of the value for our customers. And you cannot manage people for them to come out with knowledge or innovation, you must let them dance their best dance to unveil their best potential. And innovation come from there.
LU STOUT: And this is it, this is your control center here in Tokyo.
CHEN: Yes. This is our trend lab and control center here.
LU STOUT: Both innovation, there are sometimes missteps. In 2005, an anti-virus file made by Trend Micro caused computers all over the world to crash.
Did you doubt yourself and your ability to be the CEO of Trend Micro?
CHEN: No, I didn't. Trend Micro's philosophy helped me to not doubt myself, but thinking what is the best way to address this problem.
At the crisis time, you show your real face. It's a big challenge, but it's so great that the whole company come out stronger than before and come out with this security from the cloud innovation.
Wow, no. I like it...
LU STOUT: Chen says they learned from that mistake. And those lessons helped propel Trend Micro to the forefront in Cloud security technology.
This is quote from your company website about a philosophy here at Trend Micro. And it reads as follows: "we drive our growth by innovation. We encourage risk-taking. And our management style dares you to fail.
LU STOUT: I mean, really? I mean, at Trend Micro do you encourage your employees to fail?
CHEN: I have this philosophy of you create an environment for them to freely innovate and have fun without serious damage the company, right?
So when I teach kids, I don't tell them don't do this, don't do that. But you create an environment that's safe enough and let them explore. Just make sure that you create that safe environment.
LU STOUT: Eva Chen of Trend Micro there.
Now you're watching News Stream. And coming up next on the show, he was a star of the London Olympic securing two big wins for England. And after the break, we'll hear from Mo Farah on what drives him to succeed.
LU STOUT: Welcome back.
Now long distance runner Mo Farah secured his place as a British icon during the 2012 Olympics. He won the 5,000 and 10,000 meter titles and became one of the faces of that year's games.
Now just a year later he did it again at the world championships to secure a historic double-double.
Now the Somali-born athlete told our Alex Thomas what it takes to be a world champion.
MO FARAH, 2-TIME OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALIST: I was young at the time. I just finished Uni (ph). I wanted to do kind of my running and then my agent Ricky Simms (ph) had said to me -- you know, he saw my talent. And then he said to me why don't you see the Kenyan guys and learn from them and try and maybe see what they do and stay in the same house with them.
I saw them, what they were doing -- eat, sleep and train.
And then one day I said to myself I was coming back from late night and with my friends hanging out, going to cinema, and going out. I came back late and they were all sleeping. As they're leaving about 8:00 as you usually do, it's 6:00 they woke up in the morning, early morning and they go for their run.
And that's when I realized you must be able to just do eat and sleep and train. And there's no more to it. You can't go out, hang out with your friends, go to cinema, you can't go out clubbing. You can't do what you love to do if you want to be an athlete.
ALEX THOMAS, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Why did you suddenly realize you had to change your lifestyle?
FARAH: To be honest, in terms of like having something to fall back in and education wasn't great so the only thing I had really is to run and I had to make running work, because I remember being at school and teachers always saying to me, Mo, listen, I know you're missing a lot of lessons to do this, but you know -- education is as well as important as your running. You have something to fall back on.
At the same time I couldn't see myself having -- getting a decent job and working in an office. I just can't do it. I just can't concentrate more than five seconds I just -- I'm just like -- for me, I had to stay active, you know, running.
THOMAS: I think you're quite keen in the book as well to maybe change some perceptions about Somalia as well, aren't you?
FARAH: To be honest, I think everybody just sees one part of Somalia and where we see this because the needs and the fighting and stuff. But there's still other people, there's good people as well as bad people. So at the same time, you know, there's kids out there needs help. But the country needs help itself. And I think finally it's building itself back up.
THOMAS: You've got a lovely wife and three kids. Your running career takes you all over the world. How much harder does it become to be separated from them?
FARAH: It's a lot harder with having kids and you obviously want to be there for your kids and play around with them and help, but what I can with my wife and -- but, you know, it takes, you know, to be away (inaudible) put a block of training together to be the best. So at the same time I know I have to do this. But it's hard, but you know, later on in life I can I guess running is so short in my career. It's not like it goes on forever, so later on when I retire I'll be able to chill out with them.
But it's difficult.
THOMAS: Yeah, because you know that it's only for a certain amount of time. You're not going to be running at 60.
FARAH: No. (inaudible) watching my football team.
LU STOUT: And that was Olympian runner Mo Farah speaking to Alex Thomas about his motivations, his rigorous training schedule and his Somalian heritage.
Now Farah on Monday, he also hit back at comments by the football player Jack Wilsher (ph) that only English people should play football for England. Now Farah, he moved to the UK as a schoolboy and said that he was very proud to be a British runner.
Now a 72-year-old deer hunter is recovering after losing his way and losing consciousness in Northern California's Mendocino National Forest.
Now he went missing on missing on September 24. He wasn't heard from for almost three weeks. Miguel Marquez tells us how he managed to survive in the wilderness.
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Nineteen days lost in the wilderness, injured and dehydrated, and a 72-year-old man survived.
GENE PENAFLOR, SURVIVED 19 DAYS IN THE WILDERNESS: I didn't panic because panic will kill me right away. I knew that.
MARQUEZ: Gene Penaflor vanished in the Mendocino National Forest in northern California. He was on a hunting trip, got separated from his partner and suffered a serious fall.
PENAFLOR: In the process of falling straight down, it struck me for a while. I thought my -- my kneecap was broke. After that, all dead -- went dead. I passed out. I don't know how long.
MARQUEZ: When he finally woke up he was disoriented, suffering a head injury. He was stranded in the middle of nowhere, forced to eat lizards, frogs and squirrels just to stay alive.
KOSIK: The process of several days, the three squirrels were dead because of me.
MARQUEZ: He scavenged water from a drain source. He huddled under logs to stay out of the snow and rain and kept warm by making fires using leaves and grass. Meanwhile Penaflor's family spent every single one of those 19 days praying he was still out there, still alive.
JEREMY PENAFLOR, SON OF SURVIVOR: Nineteen days I know was nothing for him so I knew he was there.
MARQUEZ: Rescue teams have been searching for Penaflor for weeks but he was finally found on Saturday by a group of hunters at the bottom of a ravine. By then Penaflor could no longer walk on his own. He had to be carried on a makeshift stretcher. But thankfully and miraculously he is OK.
LU STOUT: Incredible story of survival there.
Now let's go Over and Out There. Authorities in Belgium knew it would be nearly impossible to extradite a suspected pirate from Somalia, so they came up with an elaborate sting operation to make him want to come to Belgium voluntarily.
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JOHAN DELMULLE, BELGIAN FEDERAL PROSECUTOR (through translator): We asked Afwene (ph) if he would be willing to cooperate as an advisor and expert on a movie project about maritime piracy. It would be a story about his life as a pirate. After patiently building up a relation of confidence, both agreed to participate in the project.
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LU STOUT: Now authorities say the thought of making a movie about his life of piracy was too much for Mohammed Abdi Hasan (ph). He and an accomplice, they traveled from Somalia to Belgium where they were immediately arrested.
Now authorities say that they suspect Hasan (ph), also known as Afwene (ph), was the head of a group of pirates that hijacked the Pompei, a Belgian ship in 2009. Now the crew were held for more than 70 days and released after a ransom was paid.
That is News Stream. But the News continues at CNN. World Business Today is next.