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U.K. Residents Bracing For Nasty Storm; Cardinals Take 2-1 World Series Lead After Wild Ending; Missouri Upset At Home In Double Overtime; Wallace Jr. Win Makes NASCAR History; Government Working To Fix Website; Republicans Back Obama On Spying; Olympic Athletes Make U.S. Bobsled Team; Big Changes Made To Weather Warnings

Aired October 27, 2013 - 14:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR : Hello, everyone, I'm Fredricka Whitfield. A look at our top stories right now in the NEWSROOM.

A bizarre ending to game three of the World Series. A controversial call gives the Cardinals a crucial victory. And Red Sox fans are infuriated. See the play and hear the heated reactions.

The operator of a ride at a state fair is behind bars. He is accused of sabotaging the ride's safety devices, causing a malfunction that left several people hurt. And police say it's possible he didn't act alone.

Plus, planes rip through a bus filled with school kids on a field trip in Tennessee. We'll talk to a student and a chaperone who survived that terrifying ordeal.

Boston Red Sox fans are getting another lesson in heartbreak at the World Series. Last night's game three against the St. Louis Cardinals ended with a controversial call by the umps that gave the St. Louis Cardinals the win and left some fans shaking their heads.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They play seven games for a reason, so great win. I don't know about the call, but it's all good. Yes, you guys rock it out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was a great game to watch. I was glad I was here, it was a great game to watch. But the ending was something I've never seen before.

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WHITFIELD: Well he wasn't the only baseball fan saying that. CNN's Joe Carter looks at the game's wild ending.

JOE CARTER, SPORTS REPORTER, HLN: All right, Fredricka. So, Jim Joyce is the third base umpire who made the obstruction call, and he said after the game, in his 26 years as Big League umpire, he's never seen a game end in this fashion. Now it happened in the bottom of the ninth. The game was tied 4-4. Now, Boston gets the out at home plate. But the throw to third base goes wide, but it still looks like Boston gets Allen Craig out at home plate, but he's called safe because the umpire at third base calls obstruction on Will Middlebrooks. Now, St. Louis is awarded the game-winning run, and pandemonium ensues.

So you have to watch it again - Middlebrooks interferes, trips - obstructs basically with Allen Craig's process of going home, and the rule states, whether you intend to or not, you cannot impede with the base runner's progress. St. Louis wins 5-4 in the one of the strangest plays you'll ever see. It's the first World Series game ever to be decided on an obstruction call.

JOHN FARRELL, BOSTON RED SOX MANAGER: It's a tough way to have a game end. He's on the ground, he's - you know if he tries to raise up, then he's clearly getting in his way. You know, for Craig to try to advance to home plate. But the only thing, he got t angled up with him, and that was the call.

CARTER: Now, again, the rules states that intent has absolutely nothing to do with the obstruction. Jim Joyce, the guy who made the call at third base, explains it this way.

JIM JOYCE, THIRD BASE UMPIRE FOR GAME THREE: The base runner has every right to go unobstructed to home plate, and, unfortunately for Middlebrooks, he was right there and there was contact, and so he could not advance to home plate naturally.

CARTER: Now, the entire umpiring crew, which each of them have more than 25 years of experience, all agreed that the call made on the field was the right call. So, now St. Louis leads the Series two games to one, game four is tonight. Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: OK, it's going to be a nail biter, indeed. Thanks so much, Joe. All right, a side night - hey, this isn't Umpire Jim Joyce's brush with base infamy. In 2010 as you recall, he blew a call when pitcher Armando Galarraga was just one out from a perfect game. Afterwards, Galarraga actually was rather understanding about it. He said, "Nobody's perfect."

All right, "Rolling Stone Magazine" is reporting that rock and roll icon Lou Reed has died. Reed's influence as a song writer and guitarist, first with Velvet Underground and then later as a solo artist, spanned 50 years and inspired artists in a variety of genres, but he was probably best known for his song "Take a Walk on the Wild Side." Reed leaves his companion and fellow musician behind, Laurie Anderson. Lou Reed was 71 years old. All right, singer Chris Brown has landed in hot water again. He was arrested early this morning outside of a hotel in Washington, D.C. after police say he and his bodyguard got into a fight with another person. Nick Valencia following the story. So, Nick, what have you been hearing from police? How did this all unfold?

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We're trying to figure out exactly that details of this altercation. We do know that Chris Brown was in Washington, D.C. for a homecoming party at Howard University. At some point in the middle of the night, about 4:30 this morning, his bodyguard and him were - and he was involved in an altercation. We don't know much about that victim, but he was hospitalized immediately. And this could spell big trouble, Fredricka, for Chris Brown. He's already on probation from 2009. We all remember that infamous incident with his then-girlfriend Rihanna. So, any arrests, even if it doesn't lead to conviction, it could land him in jail for another four years.

WHITFIELD: So what is next? I mean, is he still in jail? Is he still in custody? What's happening?

VALENCIA: He's being held right now at a local prison - at a local jail I should say in the Washington, D.C. area. But we don't know. And we know that he has a probation hearing for November 20th that was already set up prior to this incident. He was supposed to complete 1,400 hours of community service, on probation for five years. You know, his probation reports had been glowing up until now. But earlier this year, he was said to be involved in a hit and run accident where he was in a fender bender and he took off. He was also accused of not completing his community service which he was sentenced to in 2009, so again, this could really be you know turn out to be a bigger mess than just this altercation outside in Washington.

WHITFIELD: All right, we're going to talk about this case later on today in the 4 o'clock eastern hour. But thanks for that.

VALENCIA: You bet.

WHITFIELD: And then, Nick, of course we have follow up on a story that you were following yesterday that's involving the Barney's Department Store -

VALENCIA: Yes.

WHITFIELD: -- and somehow Jay Z being wrapped up into all of it. And so now, finally, a comment coming from Jay Z, speaking out on a lawsuit against that luxury store in New York. Fans have been asking him to end his contract with Barney's New York after two African- American students claimed that they were racially profiled. Well a statement on Jay Z's web site reading this, "I am against discrimination of any kind, but if I make snap judgments, no matter who it's towards, aren't I committing the same sin as someone who profiles? I am no stranger to being profiled and I truly empathize with anyone that has been put in that position. Hopefully this brings forth a dialogue to effect real change." All right, on to North Carolina now. A carnival ride crash sends five people to the hospital and now charges are filed Miguel Marquez looks at what happened.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fred, investigators say an accident at the North Carolina State Fair was no accident at all. The ride operator is facing three felony counts of assault with a deadly weapon this morning. Police say he tampered with the ride.

Female FROM VIDEOCLIP: We're at the State Fair and the ride turned upside down and dumped everybody out. There's people bleeding really bad. MARQUEZ: Panic 911 calls from the North Carolina State Fair Thursday night. Witnesses say the Vortex ride had stopped, people were getting off, when it restarted. Five people were hurt.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It just sounded like a bunch of stuff hitting metal.

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MARQUEZ: The ride operator, 46-year-old Timothy Tutterrow is in custody, charged with three felony counts of assault with a deadly weapon.

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SHERIFF DONNIE HARRISON, WAKE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA: This ride was tampered with after the inspection. And that critical safety devices were tampered with and compromised.

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MARQUEZ: The Sheriff's Office says Tutterrow is an independent ride contractor for a company that only had one ride at the fair - the Vortex. More arrests in the incident are possible. The investigation is ongoing.

STEVE TROXLER, AGRICULTURE COMMISSIONER: It makes me mad to think that anybody would put people's safety in danger like they have. And I'm not mad, I'm furious.

MARQUEZ: Three of the five people injured Thursday night are still in a Raleigh hospital this morning. Fred.

WHITFIELD: OK, thanks, so much, Miguel Marquez. All right, Germany had some pretty sharp words for the U.S. today about claims the NSA monitored Chancellor Angela Merkel's cell phone. The Interior Minister told a newspaper that if the U.S. intercepted cell phones in Germany, that breaks German law. And he said confidence in the U.S. is shaken. Atika Shubert has more on the impact these spying claims are having.

ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, both Germany and France are so outraged that they are now demanding the U.S. sit down for talks by the end of the year. German Chancellor Angela Merkel was particularly upset at reports that her own mobile phone was tapped. She wasn't the only one who may have had her phone bugged by the NSA. A document leaked by Edward Snowden to the British newspaper "The Guardian," states that the NSA was following more than 200 phone numbers for leading politicians and at least 35 world leaders. Interestingly, that document also conceded that not much useful intelligence had been gathered by monitoring those phones. Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much, Atika Shubert. All right, fallout from the NSA's spying controversy is indeed intensifying. A new report claims that surveillance of (inaudible) was much broader than previously believed. We'll have details on that plus a former CIA operative weighs in on the growing diplomatic rift between the U.S. and Germany.

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WHITFIELD: Outrage over NSA spying claims is growing in Germany with the Interior Ministry saying its confidence in the U.S. is shaken. Minister Hans Peter Fredrick also told a German newspaper that if the U.S. did monitor Chancellor Merkel's cell phone, it broke German law. That comes a day after German magazine "Der Spiegel" reported that monitoring goes back more than 10 years. Chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto has more on the fallout.

JIM SCIUTTO, CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fred, Germany's sending a delegation to the U.S. to discuss NSA surveillance - in effect, work out some ground rules for what's acceptable and what's not acceptable. This comes as the White House in public acknowledging in effect overreach in the surveillance programs and how far it was allowed to go. The administration in damage control. The President's Homeland Security Advisor Lisa Monaco writing in "USA Today" that the Whitehouse will review NSA surveillance ". . . to ensure we are collecting information because we need it and not just because we can."

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SCIUTTO: U.S. officials confirm some damage has already been done.

JEN PSAKI, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKEWOMAN: It's created significant challenges in our relationships with some of our partners.

SCIUTTO: What the White House still will not confirm, however, is if the NSA did in the past monitor the calls of world leaders including German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: All I can tell you is what the President told the Chancellor. The United States is not monitoring and will not monitor communications of the Chancellor.

SCIUTTO: That answer not yet satisfying for European allies who in Brussels warned the surveillance could jeopardize their crucial cooperation with the U.S. on intelligence-gathering.

FRANCOIS HOLLAND, PRESIDENT OF FRANCE (VIA TRANSLATOR): We have an ongoing dialogue with the Americans regarding both the past, what's been done, but it should also, and most importantly, do with the present and the future.

ANGELA MERKEL, GERMAN CHANCELLOR (VIA TRANSLATOR): But obviously words will not be sufficient - true change is necessary.

SCIUTTO: And more shoes may soon drop. The U.S. is now reportedly warning other countries not publically allied with the U.S. that documents taken by Edward Snowden detail their secret intell cooperation with the U.S. in operations targeting China, Russia and Iran.

VALI NASR, JOHN HOPKINS UNIVERSITY: I think outing these countries would then put their relations with Iran in jeopardy, and also could make them open to some form of Iranian intelligence or other retaliation.

SCIUTTO: For some of these countries that are not normally allied with the U.S., the public revelation of cooperation with the U.S. on secret intelligence could be very damaging. And after the WikiLeaks cables were released, this had far-reaching effects. Some foreign leaders' diplomats not willing to talk with their American counterparts, worried that those conversations would be made public. Arguably intelligence information because it's more secret, more sensitive, these revelations can cause even more damage in those relationships and that's a major worry for U.S. Intelligence Services for the administration going forward. Fred.

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WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much, Jim Sciutto. So, Germany is sending a high-profile team to Washington to meet with U.S. officials on these claims at some point. A team will include the heads of Germany's Foreign and Domestic Intelligence Services. I'm joined now by CNN's national security analyst and former CIA operative Bob Baer. So, Bob, good to see you. We just heard some strong words from Germany today, calling possible wiretapping unacceptable and that possibly even German laws may have been broken. So, no surprise really, though, right, that countries do spy on one another? But I guess what the conversation will be now between Germany and Washington, is how do you trust one another from this point forward, right?

ROBERT BAER, NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Fredricka, you're absolutely right. (AUDIO GAP). -- that's the question on their mind.

WHITFIELD: Do you feel like the U.S. is in a position where as result of these documents, this intell that has been dumped by Edward Snowden, that perhaps the U.S. needs to preemptively start reaching out to some of these countries to warn them - this is the information that was in these documetns, and we apologize, but now it's public, can we mend fences still?

BAER: I think it's exactly what we're doing. You've seen the United - Washington - go out to countries bordering on Iran and China and telling them that 'you people are hosting platforms against China and Iran. This may come out in Snowden's documents. We're sorry, we'll do the best we can." But truly, Fredricka, this is the worst damage to U.S. intelligence I've seen 30 or 40 years, and we're going to see people backing off from Washington. And frankly, we have to get to the bottom of this and what went wrong with the National Security Agency. Too much information was shared, and at the end of the day, it's going to cost lives.

WHITFIELD: And you heard it in Jim Sciutto's piece that there's the question of whether this will jeopardize, you know, intell-gathering. In your view, will it? BAER: Oh absolutely. Look, if you're the British or the French or anybody else, and you have some top secret program. You're going to have second thoughts about it before you share it with Washington. I just, I know the mentality, I've seen it, and that's exactly what's happening now.

WHITFIELD: Bob Baer. Thanks so much for joining us from Colorado. Appreciate it.

BAER: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: All right, smoke-filled bus filled with children on a busy Tennessee highway. We'll talk to two passengers who managed to escape just moments before flames simply ripped right through that bus. That's coming up, right after this.

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WHITFIELD: Twenty-six Kentucky high school students found out just how bad a field trip can be when their bus catches fire. Just take a look at these pictures. Well, on a Tennessee highway, someone saw black smoke billowing from the bus. The bus driver then pulled over and everyone on board quickly got off. Within in minutes, flames engulfed the bus as you see right there. But amazingly, no one was hurt. So we're joined now by a student and a chaperone who were on that bus. Environmental educator Chris Muesing joining us by phone from Lexington, Kentucky, and Dealla Samadi is a high school junior. She's coming to us via Skype. So, Dealla, let me begin with you. When did you first realize something's wrong on this bus?

DEALLA SAMADI, HIGH SCHOOL JUNIOR WHO ESCAPED BUS FIRE: Well, when they pulled us over, I realized - I didn't think it was that big of an issue, but once they started telling us to get off the bus, I saw that it was something pretty big and we could see the smoke, so I knew it was a problem then.

WHITFIELD: So, how quickly did this bus simply get engulfed, you know, between the time that you and others got off the bus?

SAMADI: I would say that we got off the bus and from that second, it just started getting bigger and bigger. I think it was all in flames in about 15 to 20 minutes.

WHITFIELD: And I understand the bus driver was actually trying to put out the flames. What did you see?

SAMADI: He really was and there were a bunch of truck drivers stopped to give us their fire extinguishers, so our bus driver along with them were trying to put it out. But it didn't work

WHITFIELD: And then, Chris, we have some images I understand that you took some pictures about - of the bus I should say after I guess the flames went out. Explain to me what you saw and you know this is pretty remarkable just to see the shell of that bus.

CHRIS MUESING, ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATOR: Yes, it happened pretty quickly. I was sitting right behind the bus driver and there were some drivers, passengers on the side car - in a car - and they were basically pushing us to slow down. There was one jeep that actually got in front of the bus, started slowing down dramatically and was just pointing at the back of the bus. And we, the bus driver and I got off, we looked and there was a lot of smoke back there, and we tried to clear it out with a fire extinguisher. But once we realized that the fire extinguisher wasn't working, we removed everyone from the bus as quickly and safely as we could. And you know we had a lot of really awesome truckers and just bystanders in cars help us out. Whether it was fire extinguishers or you know us standing in the cold waiting for emergency personnel. It was just great to see that. Just there to help --

WHITFIELD: So people really came together?

MUESING: Yes.

WHITFIELD: So, Dealla, I understand that there was a lot of relief among many of the students, you know, once they saw that people were just coming together, truckers were stopping and helping out and it really kind of I guess eased the pain that there were a lot of students that were very upset that all of their things were being burned. I guess they were thinking about their things before they were thinking about you know, their lives. Describe for me what people were worried about.

SAMADI: Well, at first everybody - we thought we were just going to get right back on the bus, and once it started getting bigger and we heard the tires start popping, that's when it like really clicked in our heads, you know, you know, our stuff was on that bus. If we had kept driving, we could have been on that bus, so I think there was an immense amount of relief there. And I think something really that we pulled out of this experience is that everybody is willing to lend a hand and that just really you know, it makes you feel really good inside, knowing that people care about everybody else.

WHITFIELD: Well we're so happy that it ended with no one being hurt. Dealla Samadi and Chris Muesing. Thanks so much to both of you and all the best.

SAMADI and WHITFIELD: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: All right, we're going to talk about a rising star in car racing. Winning big on the track and at the same time, making history. We'll talk to NASCAR driver Darrell Wallace, Jr.

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WHITFIELD: Back in the U.S., a mother and four children are dead following a stabbing spree in a Brooklyn home. A 25-year-old suspect is in custody, but official -- officials say charges have not been filed yet. Some media reports say that a machete and scissors have been seized from the crime scene. In Italy, Mt. Etna has erupted sending a large plume of ash seen over much of Eastern Sicily, I mean, it even force the closure of air space in the area for a few hours earlier this morning. And in the U.K., residents are being told to brace for a big storm headed their way. Alexandra Steele is in the Severe Weather Center and explains this could be a bad one.

ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Hi, Fred. Well a significant storm moving into the U.K., most likely here, the center of the U.K. The calling card of this, some very strong winds. Gusts 60 to 80 miles per hour. That's tonight and into tomorrow. It's going to be flying into London, Paris, even Amsterdam. Some very strong winds. These are the forecast winds, the next 48 hours look at 51 mile per hour gusts in London. We're going to watch this all abate though on Tuesday.

Here in the U.S. the biggest story temperatures finally beginning to warm up. Although a cool day today, as cold as it's been and in terms of the temperatures in the southeast warmer today and then even warmer as we head towards tomorrow -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much, Alexandra Steele.

The World Series may go all seven games. Both the Cardinals and the Red Sox are playing their hearts out to capture the championship and last night's wild finish in St. Louis was more proof. Let's go to Joe Carter with that and the rest of the sports highlights in our "Bleacher Report."

JOE CARTER, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Fred, what an absolutely crazy ending in St. Louis. It's the first World Series game ever to be decided on an obstruction call of all things. It happened in the bottom of the ninth. The game is tied 4-4. Boston gets the out at home plate, but throw to third base goes wide. Still looks like Boston will get Alan Craig out at home plate, but he's called safe because the umpire at third base called obstruction on Will Middlebrooks.

St. Louis is awarded the game run. It's very confusing how it happens. Let me just explain. There you see Middlebrooks interfering, obstructing Alan Craig from going home and the rule says whether you intend to or not you can't impede with the base runner's progress. St. Louis gets the run. St. Louis gets the win on one of the strangest craziest plays you'll ever see.

Let's talk a little college football. Number five Missouri is no longer perfect. It was upset by South Carolina in double overtime. One of the most dramatic finishes we've seen all season. Missouri had a chance to force a third overtime, but the field goal hit the left upright. South Carolina pulls off the 27-24 win, ending any chance at a BCS title game for Missouri.

In racing news, Darrell Wallace Jr. made history yesterday. He's the first African-American driver to win at the sports national level in 50 years. He won the truck series at Martinsville Speedway and you can see the emotion on his face. This guy turned 20 years old this month and a graduate of NASCAR'S diversity program, which help multicultural and female drivers advance. That's your "Bleacher Report" update, Fredricka. Back to you.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much, Joe. And of course, as you see there it was an emotional win for Darrell Wallace Jr. and we're thrilled that he's with us just under 24 hours after that historic win. Darryl, congratulations.

DARRELL WALLACE JR., NASCAR WINNER: Thank you. Thank you. How are you?

WHITFIELD: I'm doing great. Better question is how are you doing after that incredible win?

WALLACE: I'm all right. It hasn't sunk in yet. (Inaudible)

WHITFIELD: Well, Darrell, I love how you embrace this win in Martinsville by giving a nod to the first African-American NASCAR driver Wendell Scott to win a NASCAR premier series race back in 1963. Why was that so important to you?

WALLACE: It's just, that's where I'm trying to go. Take that farther. (Inaudible)

WHITFIELD: That it happened, you said that in your post-race interview and it's difficult to hear you on this Skype but we'll give it a try. You said in that post-race press conference that, you know, it's another thing, you know, that it would happen right in Wendell Scott's backyard, you're a graduate of NASCAR's drive for diversity program, and you said that this win was big. But something tells me you just weren't talking about big for you personally, but on a much grander scale. What did you mean? WALLACE: The race is going all right now. For that win it wasn't just big for me but also my team. We were working hard each and every race and we finally, you know, finally got -- now we can go to the next race and be ready to win another one. First one is always hard. They say the next one will fall into place. Also my family big for the sport. We're trying to change the face of NASCAR day-by-day, race by race and this helped out a lot more than any other race that I've had.

WHITFIELD: I know you were really sad mom couldn't be there, but your mom with your sister who is expecting, I know they had to be cheering you on watching the race live. This didn't send your sister into labor or anything prematurely?

WALLACE: No. The baby was supposed to come last Tuesday and it should pop out any time now. We're all excited. That would have been cool if it popped out yesterday. Baby came yesterday would have been a big moment for our family. We'll see. Hopefully be able to see the little man and get him in the go-kart.

WHITFIELD: Fantastic. Darrell Wallace, we'll be watching your career as it continues to grow and as you continue to soar. Thanks so much. Congratulations for a great win and all the best on many more races and wins to come.

WALLACE: Thank you. Appreciate it.

WHITFIELD: Fantastic. Darrell Wallace.

All right, President Obama is getting a whole lot of heat for his health care law's rocky rollout as you know and the NSA spy controversy as well. How will the president deal with all of the political blow back that comes with these items? Our chief political correspondent, Candy Crowley next.

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WHITFIELD: This week we could learn more about how the administration plans to fix the health care website. The president will be in Boston touting his health care law at Faneuil Hall, the same place where in 2006 then Governor Mitt Romney signed the Massachusetts health care reform into law.

Then the possible fireworks on Wednesday, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, is expected to testify before the House Energy and Commerce Committee about the rocky rollout. For House Republicans her appearance will provide another opportunity to slam the program that many have wanted to pull the plug on all together.

CNN's Candy Crowley is with us now, anchor of the "STATE OF THE UNION" and our chief political correspondent. So Candy, the administration says it will have everything fixed by the end of November, but that's not like to soften the expected grilling of Secretary Sebelius this week. Will her testimony determine whether the White House keeps her on board ultimately?

CANDY CROWLEY, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: I don't think her testimony will unless it's a complete failure. But this is a president who tends not want to do things like fire employees while he's being pressured to do so. If you want happened down the line it wouldn't surprise me, but I think the more he's pressed by Republicans the less likely he is so do it.

The other thing is that this cost, you know, what almost half a billion, a little over half a billion dollars to set up and it doesn't work. What you're seeing here is sort of two track administration approach to this. Kathleen Sebelius, the HHS secretary left to kind of go yeah this was messed up, here's what we're going to do and here's how we're going to fix it. And the president says wait until you get this. It's a great plan. It will work just as well. He wants to get on to the meat of the program and she's going to do the process stuff, which has been a disaster for them.

WHITFIELD: The other big issue haunting this administration, the international anger by world leaders about the U.S. eavesdropping on their phone calls. German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the French president and others. You spoke to the Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers on your show today and it sounds like he's actually defending the spying on the phone calls.

CROWLEY: Couple of Republicans on Sunday morning defended the president and said quit apologizing. This post-9/11 era you'll find in general the Republicans do support the president when it comes to things like drone strikes, things like is espionage either here or abroad. This is what Rogers had to say.

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CROWLEY: How damaging is it for the German chancellor or the French president to know we've been keyed into their phone calls?

REP. MICHAEL ROGERS, CHAIRMAN, INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: Well, I think the bigger news story here would be, Candy, if the United States intelligence services weren't trying to collect information that would protect U.S. interests both home and abroad.

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WHITFIELD: All right, so what happens now? Would there potentially be hearings or will the White House just meet with intelligence officials from the other countries and talk it over and then smooth things out?

CROWLEY: I think probably closer to the latter than the former. For the most part, I think what you're seeing is an administration going, with its friends both Republican and Democratic, same old same old. We all know we spy on each other. Europe is not acting like that. They are acting like this is something over the top. I suspect you'll see some kind of mutual agreement like the U.S. has with the British like no spying on each other. Let's see if that comes to past. In terms of an outraged congress you're not going see it.

WHITFIELD: Candy Crowley, host of "STATE OF THE UNION." Thanks so much.

CROWLEY: Thanks, Fred.

WHITFIELD: We got more politics coming your way in the 4:00 Eastern Hour joining us will be two veteran party chairs for the Democrats, Howard Dean and for the Republicans Jim Mickelson. That's 4:00 Eastern right here in the NEWSROOM. We'll get their take on Obamacare and all things Washington. We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) WHITFIELD: The NFL says it will play more games in London, England next year. Three regular season games will be played at Wimbly Stadium. The league has also committed to hosting games in the U.K. through 2016. Two league games were played there this year and a total of eight since 2007. The NFL has said it is considering putting a team in London full time as the football league tries to expand its branding outside of the USA.

All right, so the U.S. women's bobsled team has two brand new members, track and field Olympic stars Lola Jones and Lauren Williams. The honor takes them one step closer to being picked for the Olympic team in January. If that happens they will be off to Sochi, Russia after the 2014 Winter Olympic Games.

Gold medalist sprinter Lauren Williams is on the phone with us right now from Plano, Texas. Lauren, thanks so much for being with us. In your wildest dreams did you ever think you would become a bobsledder?

LAUREN WILLIAMS, U.S. BOBSLED TEAM (via telephone): I had no idea until about four months ago until I talked to Lola. She said give it a try and here I am.

WHITFIELD: So Lola recruited you not long after you won gold in London as a member of the 4 by 100 relay team. What was that pitch like? Did it take much arm twisting to get you on board?

WILLIAMS: I was inquisitive about it. I knew there were three people that tried out after the Olympics last year and she said it's a ton of fun and thought I had the right build for it. I love to do weight and do powerful thing. Accelerating and getting a little bit stronger it seemed like it was right up my alley.

WHITFIELD: Tell me about the training and what it takes to get you to be enthusiastic on being on the bobsled team and then making the team?

WILLIAMS: Well one of the most exciting things is I needed to gain a little bit of weight. I've been trying managed my weight a little bit. In bobsled the average girl is about 175 pounds. I'm still about 20 to 30 pounds junior them.

WHITFIELD: So what have you been eating to make that happen?

WILLIAMS: I'm eating a little bit of everything. I'm trying to put on the right kind of weight. I don't want to be a little blob. I want to be strong and powerful. But weight gain is really exciting in addition to the weight lifting so that's really important part of our training.

WHITFIELD: So then the next potential goal is trying to make the Olympic team, right? What does it take? How do you go about training or getting ready for that or being in best position to make that Olympic team?

WILLIAMS: My biggest asset is my feet so I need to be able to keep that speed while staying powerful and there will being eight races over the World Cup season and I got to pain taken my spot as one of top three pushers to make that Olympic team. I hope to move up to first place position.

WHITFIELD: So you could be a push athlete or you could be a driver, it could go either way?

WILLIAMS: No I couldn't drive a bobsled. It takes about six years to learn driving. Definitely be a push athlete. There's three sled that Team USA can take to the Olympics. You can be USA one, USA two or USA three and you want to be USA one that's the one to vie for the gold medal.

WHITFIELD: That's fantastic. Lauren, congratulations to you for making the women's team and who knows what's right around the corner. Lauren Williams, you didn't want to stop at the London games. Who knows? It may be Sochi next. Congratulations. Keep us posted, all the best.

WILLIAMS: All right, you guys take care.

WHITFIELD: All right, Lauren Williams, thanks so much.

All right, it's been nearly a year since hurricane sandy slammed into the northeast coast and since then big changes have been put into place to keep people safe from monster storms. Find out what they are next.

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WHITFIELD: Here's Christine Romans with a sneak peek at what's ahead in "YOUR MONEY."

CHRISTINE ROMANS, HOST, CNN'S "YOUR MONEY": Hi, Fredricka. It was a week of tablet showdowns and soaring tech stocks, but coming up, you're going to meet an 18-year-old with autism who has never spoken his parents until now. Finding a voice, there's an app for that. We'll see you at the top of the hour -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: So much, Christine. This week marks the one year anniversary of Hurricane Sandy and more than 100 people died in the storm and billions of dollars of damages. But could more lives have been saved? Here's CNN's John Zarrella with a look at changes in our storm warning system.

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JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For the people who lived through it, Hurricane Sandy was a nightmare. For emergency managers and forecasters, Sandy was a nauseating mess.

RICK KNABB, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER: We had a difficult dilemma on our hands.

ZARRELLA: Hurricane Center Director Rick Knabb said next time, there won't be a dilemma. Why requires looking at what happened. Forecasters knew Sandy was morphing becoming a superstorm. While it had hurricane force winds and pushed that wall of water called storm surge towards the coastline by the time it made landfall it wouldn't be a hurricane technically.

CRAIG FUGATE, FEMA DIRECTOR: Of all the disasters we deal with, hurricanes are the one that we map and spend a lot of time trying to figure out who is at risk and then get the messaging out there for them to evacuate with time to leave.

ZARRELLA: But the message may have been missed. There wasn't a hurricane warning because, again, technically Sandy wasn't one. To avoid what it felt would be confusion and misrepresenting the storm, the National Weather Service decided to go with high wind and flood warnings.

KNABB: There's no doubt the phrase hurricane warning is more attention getting.

ZARRELLA: It's impossible to say whether some lives would have been saved if the attention getting phrase would have been in place. But in the wake of Sandy, policy has changed allowing watches and warnings to go up regardless of what you call the storm. There are other changes coming too, part of an ongoing process in the works even before Sandy.

Evacuation zones are changing from Maine to Texas because hurricane forecasters and researchers have a better understanding than they did a decade ago of the storm surge from monsters like Sandy.

JAMIE RHOME, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER: When you put those big storms into our model they produce more surge. So we redid all of our modeling, which meant that everybody had to update their evacuation zones which means most evacuation zones have gotten larger.

ZARRELLA: Another new model will make it easier for people to look at and evaluate their risk from storm surge. All of these new tools are designed to make sure the public gets the message. John Zarrella, CNN, Miami.

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WHITFIELD: And on cnn.com, you can read about Ocean Breeze. That's a breach front neighborhood in New York StatEn Island and it's where a year after the storm, some residents are still trying to put their lives back together. You can see that story at cnn.com/video.

And orca whales are thought to be one of the most intelligent creatures in the animal kingdom. CNN Films follows the history of killer whales in captivity leading up to the death of a SeaWorld trainer in 2010. Watch "Blackfish" CNN Sunday night. That's tonight 9 p.m. Eastern Time.

All right, music producer, Quincy Jones, spent years working with the late superstar Michael Jackson.

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QUINCY JONES: You can't be an effective producer unless its love. When I first started working with him, his father and everybody else says you can't make him any bigger. I said we'll see. One thing led to another.

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WHITFIELD: And all those accomplishments are at the core of a lawsuit now filed by Quincy Jones against Michael Jackson's estate and Sony Music Entertainment. He says he's owed millions in royalties and fees. We'll have details and hear more from my interview with him at 4:00 Eastern Time. "YOUR MONEY" starts right now.