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Egyptian Court Adjourns Morsy Case Until January; Interview with Google executive Eric Schmidt; Commercial Surrogacy in India

Aired November 4, 2013 - 8:00   ET

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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.

Now crowds gather outside a Cairo court where ousted Egyptian president Mohamed Morsy made a brief appearance.

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ERIC SCHMIDT, EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN, GOOGLE: I was shocked that the NSA would do this.

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LU STOUT: Google's chairman expresses his anger about allegations that the NSA tapped into Google's internal data links.

And two small planes collide, but everyone on board survives. We'll tell you how.

The trial of ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy has been adjourned until January.

Now state run TV says court proceedings in Cairo came to a halt today as Morsy and the other defendants because chanting, calling the trial illegitimate. And there was chanting outside the courtroom as well. Pro Morsy demonstrators showed up despite high security to denounce the interim government.

And Morsy himself proclaimed that he is still president.

Let's get more now from our Ian Lee. He joins us live in Cairo. And Ian, what happened in court earlier today?

IAN LEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Oh, Kristie, the court is adjourned. Only eight of the 15 defendants showed up, including ex- president Mohamed Morsy. He's being charged with incitement of violence that took place last December around the presidential palace. Fast forward to last July and that's when the army ousted him following massive street demonstrations.

He recently in a leaked video talked about his ouster. Take a listen to this.

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MOHAMED MORSY, OUSTED EGYPTIAN PRESIDNET (through translator): What does coup d'etat mean? I means a setback for the institutions. And it will flip the institution balances upside down. We are in a state of coup now. And I am paying a price for this coup. I am being very honest here.

And god as my witness in what I am saying now. All of Egypt is now suffering from what's happening.

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LEE: Oh, Kristie, I want to bring in now our wonderful producer Sarah Sirgany. She was in the courtroom today.

And Sarah, just kind of tell me what kind of madhouse I heard it was in there.

SARAH SIRGANY, PRODUCER: Well, even during recess we saw scuffles breaking out between the defense team and journalists calling for Morsy's execution. The judge has to -- had to call the trial into recession twice because at one point he couldn't hear who was saying what, whether the defendants rejecting authority or him asking questions.

LEE: And we haven't seen Morsy in four months, really, how did he look?

SIRGANY: Well, he looks healthy. We managed to sneak a peak at him during the trial. He was wearing a suit as opposed to the usual customary white tracking suits the other defendants wore. And when he spoke, he spoke defiantly.

LEE: Thanks, Sarah.

Now, Morsy was moved to Burj al-Arab prison, that's outside Alexandria. Really, there's two questions remaining. First, will Morsy accept legal representation and thus accepting the court. Also, what is in the over 5,000 pages of documents, court documents -- now don't expect any quick trial. It was adjourned to January 8 -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Now, Ian, it won't be a quick trial, but will it be a fair one?

LEE: And that's a question a lot of people are asking. And there's a lot of skepticism that it will be fair. Morsy is being tried by the government that ousted him. I talked to a lawyer yesterday. And he said that it will be hard, also, because the media has been so adamantly against him. During his rule, he fought with the media. And now since the voice of the Muslim Brotherhood has basically been silenced from Egyptian media, all the media is up against him. It will be difficult. And that will be a true test of this transitional period if he can have a fair trial, Kristie.

LU STOUT: All right, Ian Lee joining us live from Cairo. Thank you very much indeed for that.

Now you may have noticed people outside the court were holding up four fingers. Now this salute of sorts is considered a symbol of defiance against military rule. It is a reference to the deaths of Morsy's supporters back in August when Egyptian security forces moved in to clear their camp in Rabaa al-Adawiya (ph) square. Now Rabaa (ph) means four, so holding up that number of fingers shows support for Morsy and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Now turning now to Somalia. Now feared and reviled in almost equal measure, al Qaeda in Somali, al Shabaab, is failing at home, but lashing out beyond its borders.

In September, as gunmen attacked the Westgate shopping mall in neighboring Kenya killing more than 67 people. And within weeks, the fabled U.S. Navy SEAL team 6, which killed Osama bin Laden set out to capture the al Shabaab leader known as Ikrima, but failed. And the twist here, his rise was virtually enabled by the United States.

Now Nic Robertson has the terror leader's story in this exclusive report.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Known as Ikrima, he rocketed from obscurity to global terror threat in just a few years. He did it with the help of the CIA. CNN can reveal how and why they even hooked him up with al Qaeda in Yemen before they tried to kill him.

MORTON STORM, FORMER CIA SPY: I was offered a million Danish Kroner which is occurring to $200,000 if I could lead the Americans to kill him. ROBERTSON: Ikrima (ph)?

STORM: Yes.

ROBERTSON: Storm, a former Danish biker turned jihadist turned double agent says he was working undercover when he first met Ikrima.

STORM: I met him in 2008 in Nairobi. I was working on a mission from the Danish intelligence and the British and the Americans --

ROBERTSON: The CIA?

STORM: And also, the CIA and the British five (ph).

ROBERTSON: Ikrima was not a fighter. He was to rise through al Shabaab's ranks with the help of Storm for the intelligence agencies he worked for.

(on-camera) This is one of the places they used to meet, a shopping mall in the heart of Nairobi, a nondescript hotel tucked away inside. Storm, he says, handing over material to Ikrima, material he says that intelligence officials knew all about.

STORM: He'd been asking me for money. He'd been asking me for equipment and I had been giving him what he asked for.

ROBERTSON: Why?

STORM: That was to gather intelligence information and to maintain our network in Somalia.

ROBERTSON: And this essentially builds him up because he has money he can provide?

STORM: That's right.

ROBERTSON (on-camera): Money and equipment wasn't all Storm gave Ikrima. He was introducing two major al Qaeda franchises.

STORM: This is Ikrima (ph) since the 23rd of February, 2010, where -- and where our rookie is asking me to pass on an e-mail to Ikrima.

ROBERTSON: These e-mails and dozens of others, Storm says, evidence he connected Ikrima to al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, AQAP, to the American cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki killed in a U.S. drone strike last year. Together, he says, Ikrima and Awlaki plotted attacks on the west.

STORM: Ikrima and Anwar al-Awlaki had been in touch and had agreed to send people from Somalia to Yemen to receive the training and then AQAP in Yemen would arrange the traveling to the west. That would be for terrorist attacks over there.

ROBERTSON: Storm lost touch with Ikrima last year when he retired from spying, but he blames intelligence services for building him up and leaving him at large to, perhaps, be involved in the Kenya shopping mall attack.

STORM: I could really frustrated to know that Ikrima had been maybe involved in Westgate's terrorist attack and also is a high rank person within that organization, it frustrates me a lot, so --

ROBERTSON: Because he could have been stopped?

STORM: He could have been stopped.

ROBERTSON: Stopped, if western intelligence had fully understood who they were dealing with.

Nic Robertson, CNN, Nairobi, Kenya.

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LU STOUT: Now the CIA has declined to comment to CNN on this story. And for more, Nic Robertson joins me now live from New York. And Nic, this is such an incredible story of how Ikrima became an international terrorist with the help of the CIA, but how did he become radicalized?

ROBERTSON: Well, this is what I talked to his friends about, his former friends in Kenya. And they said that they remembered a small guy, moved from Mombasa, he wasn't particularly athletic, wasn't particularly strong. He would play soccer instead of going to -- instead of going to school. But he was from a middle class family. And his parents sent him to a very good school. He was very good a languages. He knew six different languages.

But his family, when he couldn't get a job after he left that school decided to send him to Norway for a better life. And according to his friends this is where they feel he became radicalized. He didn't fit in in Norway, didn't -- couldn't find a job, wasn't able to get residency there inside Norway and that's when he went back to Somalia and became very radical.

So for his friends, incredibly surprised that this small, quiet guy that they had known who used to play soccer and smoke marijuana should now be the head of -- or close to the head of al Shabaab.

But the reason they think that he is still in a leadership position is because he is smart and that he speaks many languages, which allows him to communicate well in Kenya and also with the connections he's made with al Qaeda in Yemen.

LU STOUT: As his friends told you that he is not a fighter, he is a strategist. So with his skilsl, his intelligence, his language abilities, could you tell us what kind of impact, how he was able to transform the al Shabaab group?

ROBERTSON: Well, they say that he is responsible for coming up with plans. And they say even those people who were going to execute those plans are very afraid of him, because they recognize that there could be a high death toll, not only of whoever it is they're fighting, but also on their own side.

So there's a real sense that he is very extreme in nature, that al Shabaab has taken a turn not to be a nationalist movement inside Somalia, but to be an international terror threat. And he seems to be at the core of that, teaming up with the former Yemeni cleric, American Yemeni clerick Anwar Awlawki to try to find fighters, to send back to their countries, whereever they've come from in Europe or potentially the United States to perpetrate attacks there.

So he's also seen as a bridge between al Qaeda in Somalia, al Qaeda in Yemen, al Shabaab's elements in Kenya and also at the core of trying to recruit fighters to send them for attacks in Europe, which perhaps -- or perhaps in the United States, which perhaps explains why Navy team SEAL 6 were sent in to try to capture or kill him back in the beginning of October.

LU STOUT: And he still remains at-large. A fascinating profile on Ikrima. Nic Robertson joining us live from CNN New York. Thank you so much for that.

And while authorities suspect Ikrima of involvement in the Westgate attack, four suspects appeared in court in Nairobi today. And they were charged in connection with the deadly siege.

Now the men are believed to be from Somalia and each pleaded not guilty. That trial is expected to get underway next week.

Now you're watching News Stream. And still to come, a revealing interview with Eric Schmidt, the chairman of Google. Hear his reaction to accusations that the NSA spied on Google.

And this NFL player in the U.S. has left the Miam Dolphins more on claims that he was bullied and harassed.

And the latest on the embatttled Toronto Mayor. He admits that he's done stupid things, but will he resign?

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LU STOUT: Now the former U.S. intelligence contractor Edward Snowden has spoken out again, this time in an open letter published in the German magazine Der Speigel. Now the letter is titled "A Manifesto for the Truth." And Snowden defends his leaks about U.S. spying saying this, quote, instead of causing damage, the use of this new public knowledge is causing society to push for political reforms, oversight and new laws.

Now Snowden's recent revelations about U.S. intelligence operations have rocked diplomatic relations between the U.S. and its allies.

Now last week we heard new allegations that the NSA had tapped into Google's internal data links. And earlier, I spoke to Google's chairman Eric Schmidt. I asked him about everything from Android to immortality. But I had to begin by asking for his reaction to the latest claims about the NSA spying on Google.

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SCHMIDT: That the NSA would do this, perhaps a violation of law, but certainly a violation of mission. If it's true, and we don't know, maybe there are other disclosures coming, it would indicate that the National Security Agency have been looking between data centers in leading companies like Google.

Now Google's technology is heavily encrypted internally, heavily fortified. And we have announced that we're making it even more so. We're using encryption and other powerful algoritms to make if very difficult that the U.S. government can get your information or the Chinese government.

LU STOUT: Google is answering, you're responding in many ways with a legal response and also through greater encryption.

SCHMIDT: But it's just terrible policy, right. So as an example, in the United States it appears as though, according to the documents, the National Security Agency tracked everyone's phone calls in order to identify 300 suspects we had to track, according to the disclosures, 300 million people's activities. Doesn't seem right. Seems like overreach.

Over and over again, this needs to be organized. There are legitimate uses of this. This is clearly an overstep.

In this particular case, we assume that there was monitoring between different computer systems. With encryption, we can stop that.

LU STOUT: Google is calling this overreach. You're clearly angry about this.

SCHMIDT: We are.

LU STOUT: And I want to show you this, of course you've seen it already. This is the NSA slide seen around the world showing how they were able to infiltrate Google systems. You're smiling because you exactly what we're talking about. And there's the smiley face on that. What does that reveal about the psyche of the NSA?

SCHMIDT: Well, we don't know who wrote this slide. Let's assume that it's accurate. But from a Google perspective, any internal use of Google services is unauthorized and almost certainly illegal.

LU STOUT: Did it surprise you that the NSA were able to do this? That they had the skills to infiltrate Google?

SCHMIDT: Well in the first place we don't know that the NSA was able to. This is a claim. The NSA certainly is technically very, very good. And so could they do it? Sure. Should they have done it? Absolutely not.

LU STOUT: Now let's talk about patent wars, because Google has been hit by another lawsuit by the so-called rock star consortium, which includes Apple and Microsoft. What's going on here? How nasty is it going to get?

SCHMIDT: It seems like everyone is collecting patents so they can sue each other to eventually end up in some kind of a settlement. So this was actually started by Nokia maybe five years ago. And in the software industry before that, no one really sued each other, because the patents were confusing and many of them were invalid and so forth.

We have been forced to defend ourselves and validate almost every one of these patent claims. And we will continue to do that.

The fact of the matter is that this overwhelming use of patents ultimately hurts innovation, because while Google can do very well and Samsung and all of our partners can do very well, it makes it that much harder to create a new competitor in the space, because that competitor cannot get access to all the patents needed to do so. It ultimately hurts consumers.

LU STOUT: Now, there is this mysterious floating barge -- we've got a picture of it right over here -- off the coast of San francisco, a Google barge. What can you tell me about that?

SCHMIDT: There are some answers Google cannot produce. And that would be one of them.

LU STOUT: I mean, is it a showcase -- will it be a future show room for Google Glass?

SCHMIDT: I actually have studied the market for barges, and barges are going up in value today.

LU STOUT: Is it a floating data center.

SCHMIDT: Think of it as an investment in barges.

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LU STOUT: I asked the question, didn't quite answer there, but fascinating conversations. That's just the first part of my conversations with Google's chairman Eric Schmidt. And on tomorrow's show, we'll be talking about Samsung's dominance of Android and whether Google will soon introduce its own smartwatch. You can see that interview right here on News Stream tomorrow.

Now you're watching News Stream. And still to come, let's tell you what off field behavior allegedly caused one U.S. football player to reach his breaking point and why more players are now speaking out.

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LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you're back watching News Stream.

Now bullying is common in the schoolyard, but now allegations it's happening in American pro football. It's being blamed for the abrupt departure of Miami Dolphins player Jonathan Martin, pictured here last May. John Berman has more.

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JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: This morning we're learning new details about alleged player misconduct within the Miami Dolphins' locker room that may have played a role in the abrupt departure of offensive tackle Jonathan Martin last week.

"The Miami Herald" reports, citing and unnamed sources that veteran players are allegedly pressuring younger players to pay for their high- priced outings. One unnamed rookie is nearly broke because he can't say no to the older players, the source told "The Herald."

This weekend, players tweeted about a lavish-looking dinner. Another player joked about the dinner tab totaling in the tens of thousands of dollars. Later adding, the bill was split.

Martin allegedly left the Dolphins after an incident with a group of players standing up and leaving when he tried to join them for lunch. The NFL is conducting an investigation, and the team released a statement saying, in part, we take these alleges very seriously and plan to review the matter further.

L.Z. GRANDERSON, CNN COMMENTATOR: If he was bullied, it certainly wouldn't be unique. That's part of the NFL culture, especially for young players, particularly rookies. It is the epitome of machismo, and strength and posturing among men.

BERMAN: This comes on the heels of an ESPN report over the weekend that offensive lineman Richie Incognito pressured Martin into paying $15,000 for a trip to Las Vegas that Martin wasn't even on. Incognito fought back on Twitter writing, "ESPN, shame on you for attaching my name to false speculation. I won't be holding my breath for an apology. Late Sunday, the Dolphins indefinitely suspended Incognito, pending the outcome of an investigation.

JOE PHILBIN, MIAMI DOLPHINS HEAD COACH: I can say without question that we emphasize a culture of team first accountability and respect for one another. Any behavior that deviates from that, is inconsistent with the values of our organization.

BERMAN: Some of his teammates hope Martin returns soon.

TYSON CLABO, MIAMI DOLPHINS: A football team is like a family. Every family has issues. We just want him to be all right. And, you know, I want him to come back to work.

BERMAN: John Berman, CNN, New York.

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LU STOUT: Meanwhile in England, Tottenham's manager is having to defend his decision to keep an injured keeper on the pitch. Amanda Davies is in London, she's got more -- Amanda.

AMANDA DAVIES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Kristie.

We're talking about the safety and security of footballers and football's responsibility to their players. And world football's chief medical officer has criticized Tottenham for allowing their goalkeepr Hugo Lloris to continue playing on Sunday after being knocked unconscious.

Professor Yuri Drorach (ph) says FIFA guidelines state that if there's any doubt about concussion the player should then be removed from the pitch.

Well, Lloris collided with Romelu Lukaku's knee and was knocked out on Sunday. It looked as though the Frenchman would be replaced by the substitute keeper Brad Friedel, but after about a nine minute delay and treatment on the pitch he convinced the Spurs' medical staff that he wanted to carry on.

The Spurs manager Andres Villas-Boas has been widely criticized for not taking his player off. He even admitted after the incident that Lloris didn't remember what had happened.

The club have now released a statement from their head of medical services, he's called Wayne Diesel. And it says once the relevant tests and assessments were carried out, we were totally satisfied that he was fit to continue playing.

He's now also been given the all clear after a precautionary CT scan.

In Formula 1, Ferrari's Fernando Alonso's been given the all-clear as well after a trip to hospital to check on his back. He was stretchered to hospital after bouncing over the curbs at high speed at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. A medical alarm was triggered in his car after it crashed down at more than 150 miles per hour at one point during the race.

It was a much better day, though, for Sebastian Vettel. His celebrations continue following up his world title with yet another win, his seventh in a row this season. It means he's tied with fellow German Michael Schumacher for consecutive victories in a season.

In tennis news, the season ending ATP World Tour finals get underway in London on Monday with the Czech Republic's Tomas Berdych taking on taking on Stan Wawrinka in the opening match. Novak Djokovic arrives in London fresh from victory at the Paris Masters and knows he's still got a chance of taking Rafael Nadal's title as the world number one.

Djokovic beat Spain's David Ferrer in the final on Sunday in Paris to claim his 40th ATP title. He's now preparing to face Roger Federer on Tuesday.

And despite the fact he's now the world number seven, Djokovic knows it's not going to be an easy task.

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NOVAK DJOKOVIC, TENNIS PLAYER: Very difficult for all of us players who played here this week to, you know, especially for us to today we have to play already in 48 hours, but it is what it is. Next year there will be a week between. Final week of the season for top players, not including the David Cup final that I have afterwards. And every match is a top quality. And I won the title there last year. And I enjoy playing in (inaudible) and I think it's a spectacular atmosphere and hopefully I can continue on playing well.

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DAVIES: And Kristie, I've just been at the O2 Arena speaking to the legend that is Boris Becker. I'm not going to ruin the surprise, but coming up in World Sport in just over three hours time. I'll let you know who he has picked as his winner this week.

LU STOUT: All right, really looking forward to that interview. Amanda Davies there, thank you.

Now you're watching News Stream. And still ahead, the embattled mayor of Toronto says he is sorry. And he's calling on police to release a video they seized during a drug investigation.

Plus, two small planes collide, but how did everyone surprise the crash? I'll tell you after the break.

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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream and these are your world headlines.

Now the trial of ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy on charges of inciting violence, got off to a bumpy start on Monday. The presiding judge abruptly adjourned proceedings after Morsy and his co-defendants began chanting that the trial was illegitimate. Now the trial is set to resume in January.

Now four Somali men have been charged with terrorism offenses in connection with a bloody siege at a Kenyan shopping mall. They're accused of providing support, shelter and false documents to suspected gunmen. And all four pleaded not guilty.

The U.S. secretary of state John Kerry says he wants to make sure Washington's relations with Saudi Arabia remain on track. Now he's in Riyadh to meet with his Saudi counterpart and with Saudi King Abdullah to ease strained relations. And Kerry says there is a lot to discuss including Syria's civil war and Iran's nuclear program.

Now prosecutors in London are expected to finish opening their case against the former News of the World newspaper editors Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks. Now the two defendants are pleaded not guilty to charges related to phone hacking and alleged payments to public officials.

The mayor of Canada's biggest city admits that he has made mistakes, but Rob Ford says he wants to finish out his term which ends in 2014. Now Ford has been forced to repeatedly deny allegations of smoking crack cocaine. He has not been charged with any crime.

Now Ford wants the public to decide his fate. Nick Valencia reports.

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NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): After months of bombshell headlines alleging crack cocaine abuse and erratic behavior, it is what Toronto Mayor Rob Ford had to say on his radio show on Sunday that had everyone listening.

ROB FORD, MAYOR OF TORONTO: Friends, I am the first one to admit, I am not perfect. I have made mistakes. I have made mistakes and all I can do right now is apologize for the mistakes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have gathered the evidence.

VALENCIA: In a news conference last Thursday, Toronto's police chief said they have video what appears to be the mayor smoking from a glass pipe. Ford has repeatedly denied using crack since the allegation surfaced in May. On Sunday, he said that video should be made public.

FORD: Whatever this video shows, folks, Toronto residents deserve to see it and people need to judge for themselves what they see on this video.

VALENCIA: Mayor Ford was also featured prominently in more than 460- page police investigation into gang activity. The report important as much for what it says about the mayor as what it doesn't say, page after page about Ford's alleged drug abuse redacted. But there were photos, including one of Ford in front of what police say is a crack house, with three men alleged to be gang members.

Surveillance video also showed questionable behavior. The mayor seen with his onetime driver who has since been arrested on extortion charges, related to the video that alleges to show Ford using crack cocaine.

Ford hasn't been charged with anything himself but he has become the butt of jokes.

JON STEWART, COMEDIAN: Hey, hey! Don't judge him! Maybe he is cleaning up the city -- by smoking all the crack in it!

VALENCIA: Now, the mayor is taking responsibility, even if he is quite not ready to say why he is apologizing.

FORD: There is no one to blame but myself and I take full responsibility for it. I want to move forward. But I also know to move forward, I have to make changes in my life, which I can assure you that I will do. I love the work I do and I'm going to keep doing it.

VALENCIA: Nick Valencia, CNN, Atlanta.

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LU STOUT: All right, time now for your global weather forecast. And the storm season still very much active in the tropics with yet another system over the Philippines. Details now with mari Ramos. She joins us from the world weather center -- Mari.

MARI RAMOS, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, we kept telling how October was one of the busiest months for typhoons in that part of the western Pacific, Kristie. It was the most active in at least the least 50 years. So that's pretty significant in itself. Here we are now in November and the map is very crowded yet again.

We have the remnants of Krosa. Not much there. Less there, I'm happy to report that.

There's a storm over the Philippines, tropical depression 30. And then a new tropical storm all the way back here in the Pacific, just kind of starting to near the area near Guam now.

But let's go ahead and start in the Philippines. It is a tropical depression, so that means -- think of the food chain here for tropical activity. We have tropical depression, then tropical storm -- that's when they get a name -- and then you have typhoon, or a hurricane depending on what part of the world you are.

So what we have over here is a tropical depression. It has been bringing some heavy rain across portions of the Philippines. This is not going to come with some very strong wind, but enough rain that it could cause flooding and mudslides, so it's still a concern.

What's going to happen, though, as this storm moves over the warm ocean waters here of the South China Sea, the water still relatively warm. We are going to probably see it intensify into a tropical storm.

One of the concerns I have with this tropical depression is that it is affecting an area that was hit by the earthquake, remember, just a couple of weeks ago. So there's a lot of people that are still cleaning up and recovering from that. There are people that are still living in shelters after such strong shaking. There's also the threat for landslides.

So, with all of this rain that will be falling through this area, and has been falling through this area, 5 to 8 centimeters additional not out of the question even now. This could be a concern over the next few days - - at least the next 48 hours until the storm finally begins to move away.

Krosa turned out to be a dud, right? Good news. I know it got pretty close to Hong Kong there. The remnants of the storm are just bringing a little a little bit of cloud cover here across portions of the South China Sea. So, we can pretty much say good-bye to that storm as we move away.

So there's the next storm near Manila and then the very last one all the way back over here. You can see it there one more time, the forecast to follow the same general path.

With my last minute, Kristie, let's talk space. Mission to Mars getting in full gear in India.

I want to just talk a little bit about the launch site and these areas that we're going t obe talking about a lot more tomorrow. This is this island off the coast of Andhra Predesh. Doesn't it remind you a little bit of Florida, like Cape Canaveral? It's kind of the same scenario. Very close to the water, the launch will happen in this direction and then head toward the water over toward the east, kind of similar to what happens off the Atlantic coast of the U.S.

This is the main launch site for India's space program. And they are going to have an orbiter that will take off from here tomorrow afternoon local time in India. This is what the rocket actually looks like. This is a great picture here from the India space research organization.

And the weather forecast actually looks pretty good over the next couple of days. A little bit of cloud cover, it might get a little bit on the breezy side, but we're not exactly sure what their parameters are for weather, for launching this type of spacecraft. Can't really tell you if it's a go or no go.

So far, though, all systems are go. This is a Mars orbiter. It's a huge thing for India and their space program. And it's expected to happen tomorrow.

Back to you.

LU STOUT: All right, Mari, thank you for setting the scene for us for the big mission: India's mission to Mars. Mari Ramos there. Thank you.

And now, now this story involving India it's where commercial surrogacy in parts is booming. Increasingly, foreign companies are paying Indian women to carry babies for them. But some groups say that the practice exploits poor women. And they compare it to the illegal sale of organs.

Mallika Kapur investigates.

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MALLIKA KAPUR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It's a long wait: 9 months spent chatting, cooking, sewing, nurturing their swollen bellies.

"Just like you give a room out to rent, I give my womb on rent," says Manjila (ph).

Surrogacy in India is booming thanks to the low cost of the procedure, availability of surrogates and skilled doctors.

(on camera): India is one of the few countries that allows commercial surrogacy. In this hostel, 50 women live together. Each of these surrogates will get $8,000 for carrying a baby.

(voice-over): These women live under the same roof for the entire pregnancy, all under Doctor Nayana Patel's care. She says she's delivered 700 surrogate babies in the last 10 years, two-thirds to couples from other countries.

DR. NAYANA PATEL, AKANKASHA INFERTILITY CLINIC: It was only in 2003 I decided to do surrogacy where it was a grandmother getting the twins off a daughter. And looking at it we found that, yes, this is a very good arrangement. And we started with the commercial services. Not everybody is lucky that they can have a mother or a sister or a friend carrying your child.

KAPUR: Critics call surrogacy clinics baby making factories.

RANJANA KUMARI, CENTER FOR SOCIAL REFORM: If somebody has get a child, you know, somebody's friend should offer the womb, somebody's relative should offer the womb, why it has to be the poor women always. It's like organ sale, you know.

KAPUR: Mother Maquand (ph) who delivered a baby for a foreign couple two weeks ago says she's never felt exploited.

She says she became a surrogate because she wanted to buy a house.

India is now taking baby steps to regulate the industry. It's banned foreign same-sex couples and also singles from surrogacy. And it's proposing that surrogate mothers should be aged between 21 and 35.

New laws could also tighten visa controls.

It won't affect the Kosses, a California couple who say they chose India because it cost a third of what it would in the U.S. But it's not just a business transaction.

MICHELLE KOSS, COMMISSIONING PARENT: All I want is the baby. Yeah.

KAPUR: The news laws could bring down the number of surrogacy cases, something which could affect more than just the commissioning parents.

Nita Maquan (ph) has been a surrogate twice, allowing her to build a new home and a better life for her family.

"Whatever hopes we had they have been fulfilled. We have a roof over our heads," her husband says.

Many surrogates say they feel good about helping others.

Mother Maquan (ph) asks me to translate this letter she received from the couple she carried a baby for. By making their family complete, Macquan (ph) says she's given her own family a better future.

Mallika Kapur, CNN, Annan (ph), India.

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LU SOTUT; Now you're watching News Stream. And coming up, in the United State a terrifying collision left this plane in ruins, but miraculously everyone on board survived. How? We'll tell you after the break.

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LU STOUT: All right, coming to you live from Hong Kong, you're back watching News Stream.

And we have this just into CNN, BlackBerry has abandoned its plan to find a buyer. And the company's CEO Thorsten Heins is stepping down. Now remember, Fairfaz Financial had offered BlackBerry a $4.7 billion buyout and today was the deadline for it to come up with the cash.

Now shares of BlackBerry are currently down 18 percent in premarket training.

Now, just last month BlackBerry wrote an open letter saying that you can continue to count on BlackBerry, boasting about their cash on hand and a balance sheet that they said was debt free. Now the company bet that their new BB10 operating system will help BlackBerry around. Reviews out there haven't been so kind.

Now Adrian Covert at CNN Money says everything still feels a generation behind.

And BlackBerry's marketshare has fallen dramatically. IDC says it had less than 3 percent of the smartphone OS market in the second quarter of 2013. And to put it another way, more Android phones were shipped in four days than BlackBerry shipped in three months.

Now, police in Los Angeles, they are starting to get a better picture of what led to last week's fatal shooting at the city's international airport.

We have this story for you. Now the security officer who was shot dead by a gunman on Friday. And the FBI says that the suspect is named Paul Ciancia set out to target a Transportation Security Authority. And it's emerged that police received a warning about his behavior in the hours before the attack. This report by CNN's Miguel Marquez.

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MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Days before Paul Ciancia's murderous rampage, this woman who knows the alleged gunman and his three roommates says Ciancia was already plotting his crime.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He asked one of the roommates if he could have a ride to the airport, he said that.

MARQUEZ (on camera): Why did he need a ride?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's going back home, either that his dad was kind of sick and he needed to deal with some family issues. MARQUEZ: Did anyone ever see tickets or --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. He also then mentioned what day he had to leave.

MARQUEZ (voice-over): She says Ciancia rarely left his San Fernando Valley apartment since moving here in January, describing him as awkward and heavily smoker. The day he put his alleged plan into action, she says, it took his roommate by surprise.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That morning, he doesn't knock. Just opens the door and says, "I need to leave. Can you take me now?"

MARQUEZ: Ciancia's roommates believe this was the moment he texted family members in New Jersey, telling them he was going to commit suicide, that prompted frantic calls between police in New Jersey and L.A. Police came to Ciancia's home.

(on camera): He has a bag, gets in the car ...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

MARQUEZ: ...off they go. And a short time later, a knock at the door?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

MARQUEZ: Police?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police.

MARQUEZ: Why the police there?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They heard that Paul was suicidal and needed to go a welfare check on him.

MARQUEZ (voice-over): She said the other two roommates were woken and handcuffed as police searched the premises. Paul already gone, no sign of a gun.

Police say Ciancia took his military style weapon, a legalized purchased Smith & Wesson .223 caliber rifle, and hopped out of his roommate's car at LAX and began seeking out TSA agents to kill.

(on camera): Did he ever express any hatred toward the government, toward the TSA?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All of the findings that came out this year that he was very upset about it and he also thought that TSA abused their power.

MARQUEZ (voice-over): CNN confirmed this picture is legitimate. Paul Anthony Ciancia shot at least twice. His face and neck hit. He is wearing chinos and a polo shirt. No ballistic vest, no special clothing. He looks like any other traveler.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: At the moment that they are seeing this on the TV, their third roommate comes back and said, oh, I just dropped off Paul at LAX and he had to go home. That they knew, I think that you just dropped Paul off to a shooting.

MARQUEZ: Miguel Marquez, CNN, Los Angeles.

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LU STOUT: Wow. From that terrifying story of gun violence to an incredible story of survival. In the U.S. state of Wisconsin two skydiving planes collided over the weekend. And one of the planes crashed to the ground, the other landed safely. And amazingly all 11 people on board survived.

Now CNN's George Howell joins me live from Washington -- or rather from Chicago, excuse me. And George, could you tell us just what happened?

GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, look so setting the scene we're talking some 4,000 meters, some 12,000 feet in the sky. Everyone jumps off. Everyone survives. Only a few scrapes and bruises. What are the odds?

Here's a look at how it played out.

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GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Flying in formation some 12,000 feet in the air, two planes had just reached their targeted altitude carrying nearly a dozen skydivers when something went wrong. One of the pilots remembered hearing a lot bang. Then the windshield shattered. The moment both planes collided in midair. According to one of men who was on board the plane, it turned out to be a jump for their lives.

MIKE ROBINSON, SKYDIVER: Four jumpers in the lead plane get actually out of the airplane, they're on the step hanging on to the strap. Then they leave. Meanwhile the jumpers in the trail plane have done the same thing, they're on the step. So when they see these jumpers leave, then they leave. We're not sure exactly why they collided yet. But they did.

HOWELL: You can see from these pictures how the lead plane was left mangled.

ROBINSON: The wings came off, they were on fire. The pilot got out safely, used his emergency parachute and landed. HOWELL: The pilot of the trail plane also survived landing his aircraft safely. Firefighters say when they arrived on scene, jumpers were still making their way to the ground. Amazingly everyone made it off the planes safely. For something that is so routine for these skydivers, with hundreds or even thousands of jumps under their belts, this accident served as a reminder.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can be a dangerous sport. It usually is not. Unfortunately, an air plane crash, you know, you take what you get.

HOWELL: This time they all got very lucky after a terrifying scare in the sky.

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HOWELL: So, here's the deal with that second plane. We understand that it was insured for liability it was not insured for collision. So we understand that this sky diving team will be grounded for at least a couple of weeks, Kristie, until they get a second plane. And the investigate continues to determine exactly how this accident happened.

LU STOUT: That's right, the investigation continues. Are we any closer to knowing why these two planes collided?

HOWELL: Well, you know, yesterday I spoke with the owner of that skydiving company. And he says that the NTSB, they were there yesterday. Here investigators who look into accidents like this to piece together exactly how these things could have happened. That investigation is underway. And certainly it could take a few weeks before we learn more.

LU STOUT: And also, George, could you tell us more about the one pilot who escape, the one who had to use an emergency parachute. I understand that he suffered some injuries. What happened? How is he doing?

HOWELL: Right.

Well, and again, the pilot and everyone else -- and this is really the amazing part of this, everyone made it to the ground safely. There were a few injuries as you mentioned, a few minor scapes and scratches as to this pilot. But that is the remarkable thing here, everyone landed, their parachutes opened properly, deployed properly. And everyone walked away from this, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Wow, it's an incredible story. What happened up there truly a miracle. George Howell reporting for us live from Chicago, thank you.

Now, this is News Stream. And still to come, the ailing anti- apartheid leader Nelson Mandela has had a difficult year, but a new film celebrates the South Africa icon's achievement was well as highlighting his struggles. We'll have more from the star-studded premier next.

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LU STOUT: It was a long walk to freedom for the anti-apartheid activist Nelson Mandela, pictured here during his release from prison in 1990. and a new film pays tribute to the South African's remarkable life. And as Arwa Damon reports, it's release comes at a poignant time for the country.

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ARWA DAMON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It was a red carpet event decades in the making. For some, it was recreating a history they had only read about, like Atandwa Kani, who plays the young Mandela, just a second grader when he met his hero.

ATANDWA KANI, ACTOR: I'm spellbound by this. I've never been to premier of this stature, of this caliber before. So actually -- am I shaking? Answer. Answer.

DAMON: Others know that dark era from Nelson Mandela's autho biography all too well.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE; (inaudible) a portion of the life that we were together.

NDILEKA MANDELA, NELDON MANDELA'S GRANDDAUGHER: It has (inaudible) a lot of sad memories for me, because you know his incarceration was not a good time for me as his grandchild and for the family at-large.

DAMON: Producer Anant Singh started correspondent with Mandela for the movie rights when Mandela was still behind bars. And back then was struck by the humility expressed by a man who would soon become an icon.

AJNANT SINGH, PRODUCER: You know, he wrote back to say will anyone want to see a movie about my life?

DAMON; This is understandably an incredibly exciting yet emotional knight for everyone involved. Nelson Mandela himself does remain in critical, but stable condition, being looked after by a team of military doctors at his home here in Johannesburg not too far away from this very location.

But this night was a welcome change to remember the history of a man whose persona through his personal evolution, defines South Africa today. And the lessons he continues to impart on people, even those he has never met, including the man who took on the monumental task of portraying him.

KANI: You know, during the preparation work for Mandela, I was very nervous about my abilities, my capabilities as an actor, but it then came to me as I was playing a 70 year old man that, you konw, if you put your mind to something you can actually do it.

DAMON: And for South Africans, a timely lesson as well. The nation is gearing up for elections in six months that analysists say could see the popularity of Mandela's party, the ANC, dip below 60 percent for the first time since taking power two decages ago.

It is arguably a time for voters to look back and remember what Mandela stood for.

TREVOR MANUEL, SOUTH AFRICAN MATIONAL PLANNING MINISTER: This story being told at this time is going to be fundamentally important for the elections.

DAMON: A big screen story more relevant today for a country still strving to live out the ideals of its ultimate icon.

Arwa Damon, CNN, Johannesburg.

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LU STOUT: And that is News Stream. But the news continues at CNN. World Business Today is next with more on the news we heard in the last half an hour from BlackBerry.

Now BlackBerry has abandoned its plan to find a buyer and the beleagured company CEO Thursten Heins is stepping down. We'll have much more on that in the next hour right here on CNN.

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