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Election Aftermath; Kerry in Israel; Nazi-Looted Art Trove Uncovered; Investing In Twitter; Rich Incognito's 1st Public Comments
Aired November 6, 2013 - 06:30 ET
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JOHN AVLON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: So, you know, history would show that they would -- that Republicans would carry this.
Terry McAuliffe, a deeply flawed candidate, he's a former DNC chair, Clinton fund-raiser. Ken Cuccinelli's extremism, his social conservatism alienated the swing voters he needed to win. Four years ago, Bob McDonnell, very conservative governor, was able to win women by eight points. That was simply not in the cards.
When you look at Christie's margin, you see the outlines of something the GOP needs more of, an ability to appeal outside the base. That's why this election matters so much.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Pretty clear in his acceptance speech that he is looking beyond the New Jersey borders.
AVLON: Not subtle.
BOLDUAN: Not so subtle, and I guess that's OK.
I want to ask you about conservatism, though, because Christie specifically -- he really pushed back in an interview with Jake Tapper on issue of the suggestion that he's a moderate. He said, "I am a conservative."
So is that a challenge for him going forward when he's getting outside of New Jersey if he's approaching a presidential primary?
AVLON: You know, Chris Christie is not a subtle guy. I do think his speech last night put the cards on the table pretty clearly where he wants to go. But he understands the lessons of other candidates like Rudy Giuliani who I worked for. He understands that, look, the Republican Party is a conservative party. His challenge is to broaden the definition of conservative. He's not going to get stuck being called a RINO when it really matters.
On the other hand, he's not someone who shies away from a strong center-right style of leadership. He talks about the importance of being able to build broad coalitions. He can point to some access in doing it. So, that's the line he's going to have to walk.
Is he going to expose himself on his right flank unnecessarily? No. But he's going to really lead this fight, lead this debate inside the Republican Party which currently has these deep factional disputes between the center and the far right. Christie is someone who might be able to square the circle, and he's not going to make the same mistakes previous candidates have in the past.
BOLDUAN: You see both candidates were campaigning to the middle, McAuliffe was campaigning as a moderate as well as obviously Christie. They won last night. There's a message in that. We can dig deeper for days to come but there's a message there.
AVLON: You can. Terry McAuliffe did it very well with a big money advantage. Democrats can look to Bill de Blasio and say the new left is resurging.
BOLDUAN: Good point.
AVLON: There's nothing subtle about Chris Christie's mammoth win last night and that's something to really pay attention to across the nation because it says a lot about what we're going to be dealing with going forward as a country in our political debates which is fun.
BOLDUAN: Yes, politics, elections, they're back. Great to see you, John. Thank you.
AVLON: You too, guys.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: A teacher wounded during the shooting rampage at LAX is going public. Ryan Ludmer was shot in the leg and used a sweatshirt to stop the bleeding. Police officers later found him, got him into a wheelchair and hustled him through the terminal. The suspect is in critical condition.
The parents of a Nevada boy who wounded two students, killed a teacher and himself last week said they had no idea rather that their son was so angry. Jose and Liliana Reyes said their son was teased and was working on a speech problem. His parents say they hope everyone can move forward with their lives.
Michelle Knight saying the love for her son helped her survive years of cruelty in a Cleveland house. Knight telling Dr. Phil that Ariel Castro lured inside by promising her a puppy. He then tied her up with an extension cord, and her 11 years of rape, beating and torture began. Knight said she was chained to a metal pole for days with a motorcycle helmet on her head. Castro punched her in the stomach with a barbell when she became pregnant.
The oldest woman to run in Sunday's New York City marathon has died. Eighty-six-year-old Joy Johnson passed away in her sleep in her New York hotel room a day after crossing the finish line. Johnson had stumbled during the race and hit her head around the 20 mile marker but managed to finish the race anyway in just under eight hours. It was Johnson's 25th time completing the New York marathon.
Surveillance video catching a ten-point buck making an unexpected trip to a supermarket in Cedar Rapids, managed to follow a man through the front door, charging down the produce aisle, customers clearing the way. Ran into the stock area in the back of the store and then we're told he walked right on to a delivery truck. The deer was then driven to a park and released.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: It was released.
PEREIRA: Cut out the middleman.
CUOMO: Do you know what it was looking for or no?
PEREIRA: I cannot wait to know.
BOLDUAN: Did we interview the deer?
CUOMO: Yes, we're getting word. I believe it's probably hunting season there which means they released it, a ten-point buck, there were 50 sights trained on it.
BOLDUAN: Yes, he's released and there's a sea of orange around --
PEREIRA: What makes them 10 points?
BOLDUAN: A big deal. That's a big deal buck.
CUOMO: Big deal, big trophy.
Coming up on "NEW DAY", it was a remarkable find -- hundreds of priceless paintings in a German apartment, stolen by the Nazis. How did they get there? Will they get returned to their rightful owners? This happens more than you think. We're going to talk about it.
BOLDUAN: And everyone's atwitter this morning. Are you buying into Twitter? Its stock goes on sale in just a few hours. Many are lining up to get their chance. What is in it for you?
CUOMO: Tweet me, increase the value.
BOLDUAN: Let's go around the world now starting in Israel.
Secretary of State John Kerry is there trying to jump start peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians.
Matthew Chance is in Jerusalem.
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MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPODENT: The Secretary of State John Kerry is now meeting with Israeli and Palestinian leaders to push forward U.S.-brokered peace talks. The talks have been stalemate since they started three months ago. Building of Jewish settlements by Israel on occupied land, the issue of borders in a future Palestinian state, the status of Jerusalem, all among the core issues in which the two sides remain far apart. Secretary Kerry saying he is determined to work through the issues and is at least publicly still expressing confidence that an agreement can be reached.
Back to you, Kate.
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BOLDUAN: All right. Matthew, thank you so much.
In China, explosions rocked a communist party building there leaving at least one person dead. David McKenzie has that.
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DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A series of explosions rocked northern China early Wednesday. Outside the communist party headquarters, in a city there. The authorities say that they found ball bearings and electronic circuit boards on the scene.
At least one person was killed. Several were injured. And it comes just over a week from that dramatic incident at Tiananmen Square where a Jeep plowed into tourists and caught on fire. The communist party calling that a terror attack.
Kate, back to you.
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BOLDUAN: All right, David, thank you very much for that.
PEREIRA: Well, it's being called the biggest artistic find in modern history. Nearly 1,500 works of art taken by the Nazis, found in a German apartment, including previously unknown works by Henri Matisse, Marc Chagall and Otto Dix.
Let's bring in the senior art critic for "New York" magazine, Jerry Saltz.
Good to have with us, Jerry.
JERRY SALTZ, NEW YORK MAGAZINE: Thanks.
PEREIRA: Give us an idea how unprecedented is this?
SALTZ: Nothing like this has ever happened. It's like the demonic forces of history have conspired and this thing, a 1,500 works of art, that's three times more than hang in the museum of modern art right now.
SALTZ: Have been found. All of it missing, lost, a lot of it possibly tremendous history changing.
PEREIRA: In one apartment it was found?
SALTZ: We're not sure where the work is exactly.
SALTZ: It may be spread out. A lot of it isn't in frames. A lot of it may be in storage, wherever it is, the shock of this will wear off and a greater shock will start which is where will this work go?
CUOMO: Right. That's what I want you to give us perspective on. This will be the biggest of its kind to date. This is the story we don't hear about, right? People who lost artwork, want to get it back and it's often very difficult, right?
SALTZ: It's very hard. The reparations is what it's called, are in place. Laws for it, except say there's three or four sides of your family that wants a painting that your family sold in 1938 to get out of Berlin fast.
Well, is that painting legally or illegally confiscated? The Nazis took tens of thousands of works of art. If they took it from your family, do you have claim on it? Which side of the family?
I'm very sad to say that the big winners in this may be lawyers. Lawyers. And the opportunist auction houses who may come in and just try to sell this stuff off and cash in. There's a tragic side repeating itself.
BOLDUAN: Is that also what's behind why -- we hear that this art was discovered, like a year ago. Why are we just finding out about it now? Is it because of the lawyers? Is it because of the lawsuits?
SALTZ: I'm really sad that it worked out this way because you usually in Germany when they find something you hear about it right away. They're very sensitive to this.
SALTZ: But to wait a year or two, it's very dicey. You don't like the idea. It makes suspicion rise.
The bottom line is: what will happen with this work? It would be really nice, say, if a billionaire built a building and another billionaire gave all the money and spread it out to families and this work could be kept together as a kind of a memorial to an incredible tragedy.
PEREIRA: You're talking billions. What are we talking about the value of the works that were found?
SALTZ: Maybe $1.5 billion but --
SALTZ: -- again, it even goes beyond that. It goes to a chunk of history, most of which went up the chimneys in Auschwitz, as Europe self-emulated. We lost a generation or two of creative people as well to the Holocaust.
This is about annihilation being denied. But annihilation could happen again if the lawyers and the auction houses and the conflicting people get their way.
CUOMO: And it's valuable stuff, obviously. It's even more valuable to these families. They want it back because it's part of their personal legacy that was taken is now being kept from them, even when they're able to chain of title. This is a story that hasn't gotten a lot of attention. I'm glad this one is.
SALTZ: Thank you. I hope these families get their work back.
PEREIRA: Jerry, we appreciate you joining us.
BOLDUAN: It's amazing when you think about the scale of it.
PEREIRA: We'll keep watching this.
CUOMO: Yes, we will watch it because what Jerry says is right. It probably won't be as smooth as you think it should be in a situation like this. Thanks, Jerry.
SALTZ: Thank you.
CUOMO: Coming up on NEW DAY, we're going to talk Twitter. I use it all the time. Let me tell you, that is risky. The question is: will be it risky to invest in the stock? It gets priced today. That's the final stop before going public. We're going to tell you about the latest on a potential share price and the expectations.
PEREIRA: And then making admission here on national television. I think bowling is hard. And apparently, so does this guy. Oh, wait. When you come back, you'll see just how hard bowling is for him. It's our "Must-See Moment" for the day.
CUOMO: Back swing.
BOLDUAN: Welcome back to NEW DAY, everyone. Twitter's initial public offering, price is set to debut today, and the company's founders and investors are poised to probably not surprisingly, strike gold. Even some celebrities are getting in on this windfall.
Chief business correspondent, Christine Romans, has been looking at it. The IPO itself is interesting, but now, the celebrity element makes it even sexier, I guess.
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Twitter was always really popular among celebrities looking to burnish their reputation, right, and using it as a way to talk to fans and to, you know, grow their influence, but also, their investors who people and celebrities who invested in this company. Richard Branson, for example, he's sort of a celebrity in the business world. He, his rep confirming to us, that he is an early investor in Twitter. We're hearing that Ashton Kutcher, no surprise. I mean, Ashton Kutcher, for example, this is someone who -- I don't mean to, you know, have like a love affair with him right now about his money moves, but he has some made some really smart money moves. I mean, he's invested in a lot of things Uber, Spotify, a lot of other things.
And he has -- he even has a venture fund A-grade investment, venture capital fund. He has been a very, very smart investor in technology. We're hearing lots of big international investors are in on this. And if you look at the founders, let me show you, Ed Williams (ph), one of the founders, 1.4 -- that is a "B," that is a "B" you see on your screen right there.
Jack Dorsey, 586 million. Biz Stone, we're not sure how much he's going to make if he completely cash out, but he's not listed on the original list. But all of these people -- Dick Costolo, the CEO --
BOLDUAN: How much are the celebrities going to make?
ROMANS: Depends on how much they put in. There were several rounds of funding for Twitter along the way when it was (INAUDIBLE), you know, social media company and then as it got bigger and bigger. So, there are some of these venture capital firms are going to make hundreds of millions of dollars.
CUOMO: Assuming that it sells through when it hits the market, right? Just pre-pricing it, do you think it's worth it? Do you think the revenues, the story of the stock will get it through the Facebook fiasco?
ROMANS: I don't think that you're going to have the Facebook fiasco again. I mean, what people are saying is this Facebook or is this Google? Remember Google, you waited at the open of Google, and it just went up and up and up and now is above $1,000 a share. Can this company really prove it can make money?
How is it going to make money? By selling sponsored advertisement to you, to me, to all of us who use it and will that take (ph) us off. And our young people, young people are going to still be such avid Twitter fans or are they going to find other things to do? It reminds me of Bono, actually. Bono was one of the --
ROMANS: Yes. He is one of the original very savvy tech investors with Elevation Partners, a Facebook investor there. There's a lot of money going around to what could be the future of Twitter competitors from some of these stars.
PEREIRA: What are we thinking the initial offering --
ROMANS: People are saying $23.50, you know, to maybe $25 a share.
CUOMO: It was in the teens.
ROMANS: You know, for you, for the rest of us, for real people, do you buy it tomorrow? Remember, all these people I'm telling you about are going to make a fortune right now from investments they already made. They invested in Twitter before it was a public company. Now, it's your turn to decide if you want to buy it for the long-term. Warren Buffett says he doesn't buy initial public offerings. He likes to wait --
CUOMO: What does he know?
CUOMO: He's in Nebraska.
ROMANS: What does Warren Buffett know?
PEREIRA: Christine Romans, thanks so much for that.
Got me pondering what I'm going to do.
Let's distract ourselves with our "Must-See Moment" today. If at first you do not succeed, try, try, try again, even though as hard as this guy.
PEREIRA (voice-over): He's going for a strike. Gave him a ball in here. First try didn't pan out. Try it again, adds a little more power. Whoa! Did that go through the ceiling? Is that where I put my ball? Yes. Smash. Straight from the ceiling and back down onto the floor. His buddies caught it all on tape and you know they're going to work him for this.
BOLDUAN (voice-over): If you've been bowling a long time as an avid bowler, your fingers can swell as the game continues.
PEREIRA: Swelling in the ball.
CUOMO (voice-over): What? He put it through the ceiling.
PEREIRA (on-camera): Yes.
CUOMO (on-camera): #epicfail.
BOLDUAN (on-camera): #don't look at my bowling game.
PEREIRA: Ditto. CUOMO: Wow. In the defensive --
CUOMO: That is true. Probably going to get shot, too, though. Balance, balance. The elections are over. Chris Christie won big, but how he did it and what he said about it may be more important in the win itself to his political future. Jake Tapper talked to him. You'll want to hear it. He joins us next.
BOLDUAN: Also ahead, the NFL player at the center of that bullying controversy we've been talking about. Well, he is now talking for the first time since he was suspended. We're going to tell you what Richie Incognito had to say about the allegations against him.
CUOMO: Richie Incognito, Incognito no more, breaking his silence and adding to what has been a very one-sided story about the suspension by the Miami Dolphins. Andy Scholes has more in this morning's "Bleacher Report." What does he say? What does it mean, Andy?
ANDY SCHOLES, BLEACHER REPORT: Hey, Chris. You know, Incognito has remained quiet on the allegations against him while the NFL investigates the accusations made by teammate, Jonathan Martin. But yesterday, WSBN, channel 7 in South Florida, they caught up with Incognito in a parking lot and got his first comments on the scandal. Take a listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How are you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Doing well.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you have to say about this storm you're in?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I'm just trying to weather the storm right now. And, this will pass.
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SCHOLES: All right. New twist to this story came out yesterday. According to the "Sun Sentinel," incognito was asked by Dolphins coaches to toughen up Martin last spring. According to a source, Incognito took that request too far. The Dolphins have not commented to CNN regarding that claim at this time.
One of the top stories in the lineup section on BleacherReport.com today is why I have my body guards keep my fans at arm's length. According to "USA Today," swimmer, Ryan Lochte, suffered a torn MCL and sprained ACL when an overzealous teenage girl in Florida attempted to jump into his arms. They both fell; Lochte hurt his knee. He's (ph) now expected to miss some time, but he is expected to make a full recovery. Guys, this is an example of why, I guess, you should not always embrace your fans.
BOLDUAN: I know you have that problem all the time, Andy. I know.
SCHOLES: Yes. I've got my body guard ready to take me back to the office right now.
BOLDUAN: Carrying you.
BOLDUAN: Thanks so much.
We're now at the top of the hour, everyone, which means it is time for your top news.
GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE, (R) NEW JERSEY: The only greatest honor and privilege than being a one-term governor of New Jersey is to be a two- term governor of New Jersey.
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CUOMO: The winners. Chris Christie wins, but his victory message is the real news. We have an exclusive interview with the governor.
BOLDUAN: And this question, is the Tea Party last night's big loser? Tough losses for conservatives. Has the movement lost its edge? We are covering it all this morning.
PEREIRA: Chance for freedom. He was imprisoned ten years ago for a murder he says he did not commit. Every witness has admitted to lying. Will he finally be set free?
CUOMO: Your NEW DAY starts right now.
ANNOUNCER: This is "New Day" with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan, and Michaela Pereira.
CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome to NEW DAY. It's Wednesday, November 6th, seven o'clock in the east. And we had an easy win for Governor Chris Christie. Big margin, 20 points. Big message. But it maybe what he did not say that means the most. Question, how long will Chris Christie stay in the governor's mansion?
BOLDUAN: And in Virginia, a long-time Democratic operative, Terry McAuliffe, came out on top in what was surprisingly a nail biter to become that state's new governor. He beat out Tea Party favorite, Ken Cuccinelli, leading many to wonder what this all means for 2016. CUOMO: And here in New York City, so-called Bloomberg fatigue paid off big for Bill de Blasio. The city's public advocate becomes the first Democrat to win the race for mayor since 1989.
But back to the big race. The New Jersey race for governor, what it means for Chris Christie. Jake Tapper is live from Asbury Park, New Jersey. Bruce Springsteen's land of hopes and dreams. We're hopefully Jake is going to help us break down, what this could mean for the governor going forward? A beautiful sunrise behind you, Jake, and new day for New Jersey's governor.
JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR, THE LEAD: It is. And although it's clear that the governor said that he was focused on just this race and being re-elected governor here, his possible presidential ambitions were no secret. I spent the day with him yesterday.