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Large Plane Stuck At Small Airport; Representative Radel Takes Leave Of Absence After Cocaine Bust; Deeds In Good Condition; Clinton Awarded Medal Of Freedom; Stalking Charges Dropped; "Best Chance...in a Decade"; American Detained in North Korea; Political "Gut Check"

Aired November 21, 2013 - 06:00   ET

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Giant 4241 heavy, do you know which airport you're at?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, we think we have a pretty good pulse.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Breaking overnight, plane crazy. A giant cargo plane lands at the wrong airport. Now, it's stuck. We'll tell you why.

And then, on JetBlue, emergency slide opens inside the plane in flight. What's going on?

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Leave of absence. The Florida congressman busted with cocaine is now talking saying he needs time away from his job to get better. We have his emotional press conference ahead.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Outburst. Alex Rodriguez storms out of an arbitration hearing with Major League Baseball then tears into the league and his commissioner. Why he thinks the league hates him?

CUOMO: Your "NEW DAY" starts right now.

ANNOUNCER: This is "NEW DAY" with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan, and Michaela Pereira.

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CUOMO: Good morning. Good morning. Welcome to "NEW DAY." It's Thursday, November 21st, six o'clock in the east. And we have breaking news overnight out of Kansas. A massive cargo plane stranded at a Wichita airport after landing there by mistake. The FAA says the Boeing 747 was supposed to land at McConnell Air Force Base but ended up at this smaller airport many miles away.

Now, they say the runway there, too short for the big plane to take off. CNN's aviation correspondent, Rene Marsh, is live in Washington. Rene, what to do, what to do?

RENE MARSH, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: That is the big question here, Chris. What to do, what to do? Big is the word of this story here because we're talking about a massive, massive cargo plane. You can see a photo of what we're talking about there, some video of this Dreamlifter. It is the 747. It is used to ship cargo.

Just to give you an idea as to how huge this thing is, it is capable of hold something 19 million golf balls, the wings itself on this plane, it would essentially cover the total floor space of four three- bedroom homes with two bathrooms. That's how big this thing is here.

The problem is this morning it landed at the wrong airport, about 10 miles away from where it was supposed to be. It was supposed to land at another airport; we are told it was the McConnell Air Force Base, happening late last night. But instead, it landed at the Jabara Airport. We pulled in some audio from the pilot speaking with air traffic control at the point of when this big mix-up happened. Let's take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Giant 4142 heavy, do you know which airport you're at?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We think we have a pretty good pulse.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It appears you're at the wrong airport.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Say again.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 4241 heavy, we saw the plane on the radar and you are at Jabara Airport.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The name again?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jabara.

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MARSH: All right, again, so you're hearing the exchange there in which it becomes clear that this plane lands at the wrong airport. So here's the problem. The runway at the airport where it landed is just too short. It needs a much longer runway. So the problem this morning is, how we're going to get this huge, massive cargo plane from this point to where it needs to be, Chris. So that is all under way as we speak, trying to figure out how to get this thing out of there.

CUOMO: All right, so the good news is no distress, nobody was hurt. It wasn't an emergent situation. It was more of a what you talking about Willis moment there between the pilots. So that's good. We look forward to figuring out how they get that plane back up in the air again.

Now we have this other incident, OK, JetBlue flight mid-flight, what happens there with this, what we're looking at right now with one of the in-flight inflatable ramps. What happened?

MARSH: Right. So we heard about this at first yesterday. This JetBlue flight we know that it left Fort Myers. It was supposed to go to Boston's Logan Airport, but then it didn't even make it out of the state of Florida before it had to make an emergency landing in Orlando. It's because what you're looking at right there on the screen, that emergency slide deployed inside of the plane while it was in the air.

The FAA says that they are investigating to figure out what went wrong, how this could happen. We can tell you that it has happened before. This is not a first, however, not what you want to see when you're up in the air.

CUOMO: No. But again, nobody hurt. It wasn't a situation where the plane became compromised? Top theory for why it happened? What do you think? Big guy waiting for the restroom leaning up against the wrong wall, what do you think, top theory?

MARSH: I'm not stepping into that one, Chris.

COUMO: You're still dealing with the fact that your Blackberry went off and I heard it, Rene. I heard it.

MARSH: Did you?

CUOMO: Thank you for the reporting this morning.

MARSH: Sure.

BOLDUAN: Here we go. All right, to Florida now where Florida Congressman Trey Radel says his arrest in a drug sting was a wake-up call. The freshman Republican is taking a leave of absence to enter a substance abuse program, the announcement coming just hours after he pleaded guilty to cocaine possession.

CNN's Alina Machado is following all the latest developments. She is live in Florida for us this morning. So what are you hearing, Alina?

ALINA MACHADO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kate, the 37-year-old lawmaker says he has hit bottom. He came back to his district late last night and came straight to his offices to talk to reporters about his future.

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REPRESENTATIVE TREY RADEL (R), FLORIDA: I have no excuse for what I've done.

MACHADO (voice-over): Contrite and apologetic, Republican Congressman Trey Radel announced late Wednesday night that he's taking a leave of absence from Congress after pleading guilty to possession of cocaine.

RADEL: I've let down our country. I've let down our constituents. I've let down my family.

MACHADO: The freshman lawmaker says he's accepting responsibility for his actions.

RADEL: I have been getting the help that I need and I will continue to get the help that I need.

MACHADO: Federal agents arrested Radel back in October during a drug sting. Court documents say he bought 3.5 grams of cocaine worth $260 from an undercover officer. Radel calls his actions, quote, "extremely irresponsible" and says he's been struggling with addiction for years.

RADEL: I knew this day would come. I've been struggling with this, but I have had my wake-up call.

MACHADO: Earlier Wednesday Radel was at Washington, D.C.'s Superior Court where he ignored questions from reporters. Radel has been sentenced to a year of probation and if it's successfully completed, his guilty plea will be cleared from his record. He was facing up to 180 days in prison. Some are now calling for Radel to step down.

MELANIE SLOAN, CITIZENS FOR RESPONSIBILIITY AND ETHICS: Trey Radel needs to resign right away. He committed a crime. Members of Congress swear to uphold the law, not break them.

MACHADO: The former journalist and father of 2-year-old son stopped short of resigning; instead, he says he's focused on rebuilding trust with his family.

RADEL: The first thing that I need to do tonight is go begin to mend that trust and relationship with my wife, who is with me, who will continue to stand with me, who I love, who is my rock. I'm going to hug my little guy, even if he's asleep tonight. And I'm going to work to do everything I can to be strong, to come out as a better man.

MACHADO: Radel also said he would enter an intensive inpatient program to get treatment for substance abuse. He hopes to set an example for those who struggle with addiction.

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MACHADO: Now, an aide for the congressman tells us that he will be checking himself into a rehab facility in nearby Naples, Florida, later this morning -- Chris and Kate.

BOLDUAN: All right, thanks so much, Alina for the update.

PEREIRA: All right, time for our headlines at this hour. Good morning, everyone. Making news, it is a deal in principle. President Hamid Karzai and Secretary of State John Kerry finalizing an agreement on the role of U.S. troops in Afghanistan once the combat mission ends in 2014. The country's grand assembly of leaders will meet today to decide whether to approve the security deal, which lays out a limited support role for American forces through 2024 and beyond.

Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds has been upgraded to good condition after his son apparently stabbed him on Tuesday. CNN has now learned at least three area hospitals had psychiatric beds available the day before the attack. Gus Deeds had a mental health evaluation Monday, but was released because supposedly no beds were available. He killed himself after the altercation with his father. Former President Bill Clinton, one of 16 Americans awarded the nation's highest civilian honor, the Medal of Freedom, President Obama praising Clinton as a true champion and thanking him for his years of service in and out of office. The two men and their wives attended a ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery commemorating the 50th anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

An update for the Rebecca Sedwick bullying case: All charges against two girls accused of stalking and terrorizing her have been dropped. The 12 and 14-year-olds were arrested last month on felony aggravated stalking charges. They've been under home confinement. Sedwick committed suicide back in September. Next hour, we'll speak with the sheriff who arrested the girls. We'll discuss with him these new developments.

And boy, is this something you do not want to see when you're stand up paddle boarding. It appears to be a great white shark in Santa Monica Bay. The video was shot by Nathan Anderson who says the shark was swimming beneath him and his friends just 50 yards from shore. There have been a growing number of shark sightings in the area this fall possibly because of warmer than usual water temperatures. Apparently the area is popping grounds for the sharks, but to see a full grown one that close is --

BOLDUAN: There is a segment of the population who does enjoy -- would enjoy seeing that, who would scuba dive with that and that would be my husband.

PEREIRA: When he posted the video, sorry about the bad angles, but I was busy freaking out. That was a more dignified way, the way I said it.

CUOMO: That faux calm panic. You look like you're calm but you're panicking, but he kept his go-pro steady. I would be screaming in that high pitch scream that only German shepherds can hear. What would Indra Petersons do in that moment?

INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I love shark diving but in a cage. There is a big difference here right, protection, guys.

CUOMO: She actually did do that?

PETERSONS: Love it. I know I'm a little crazy. A little coop factor.

CUOMO: Now you all know.

PETERSONS: To add to that, for anyone jealous of the cold air we're seeing in Montana and Minneapolis, well, take a look at it because that is going to be coming to your area by the weekend. For pretty much anyone for the eastern half of the country. Notice the temperatures. Enjoy it right now, pretty much average temperatures for the eastern half of the country.

Let's talk about why the change for the weekend. Snow, a lot of it especially in through Colorado today, all thanks to the low that's sliding down to the south. There's two parts of it, cold air, even snow into the mountain regions, but also a lot of rain into the southwest. This will be a big story as we go through the weekend.

There is so much moisture, again, I'm showing you from Hawaii all this is streaming into the southwest, with that they'll be talking about heavy rain and flooding concerns. You can see that kind of filling into the region. For the weekend, lots of rain, anywhere as much as 6 inches in regions that really can't handle that much rain in short periods of time.

The next system is making its way across the country today. In the Midwest, starting to see some of the showers, nothing too heavy but it does mean in Washington, Illinois, they are seeing the rain today. This is a system that will be continuing to slide across by Friday and Saturday, Mid-Atlantic, northeast, look for the light showers.

You may complain it's raining. Don't. At least it's still warm. It's what happens behind the rain. This is Sunday. I'm jumping you way ahead, guys, I'm talking about highs in the 20s and 30s when the rain goes away. I've never had a smile so big as I will see the rain on Saturday. The best it gets.

BOLDUAN: Thanks, Indra.

Coming up next on "NEW DAY", a deal may be near. Nuclear talks with Iran picking up steam. Could an agreement be in place by this time tomorrow?

CUOMO: Plus, an 85-year-old veteran from California detained in North Korea for nearly a month. Did his service in the Korean War trigger his arrest?

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CUOMO: Welcome back to "NEW DAY". About 15 minutes past the hour. Secretary of State John Kerry says right now is the best chance they've had in a decade for a nuclear deal with Iran. A new round of talks began Wednesday in Geneva, more expected today. The main give and take is that the U.S. will loosen sanctions if Iran suspends part of its nuclear program. But there is fierce opposition to any deal both at home and abroad. CNN's Jim Sciutto is in Geneva with that. Good morning, Jim, what do we know?

JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. This really is the money round. There's a sense from both sides they're close it a deal, but it's in these stages where they really have to work through the final issues, standing in the way. One of the members of the E.U. delegation telling us this morning, quote, that "they're locked in very tough negotiations here."

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SCIUTTO (voice-over): Negotiators return to Geneva with the same unresolved question, could they succeed where years of negotiations have failed with a breakthrough deal on Iran's nuclear program?

As the talks got under way in Geneva, back in Washington, Secretary of State John Kerry said the administration is in no rush.

JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: We will not allow this agreement, should it be reached -- and I say should it be reached -- to buy time or to allow for the acceptance of an agreement that does not properly address our core fundamental concerns.

SCIUTTO (voice-over): The key sticking point to any final deal is how much of Iran's nuclear program will remain in place?

The White House is comfortable with a peaceful program within strict limits and under strict verification. But its closest regional ally, Israel, insists Iran's program should be entirely dismantled.

In Moscow, lobbying Russia to force a tougher deal, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu cited the ongoing destruction of Syria's weapons as a model. This sharp disagreement over Iran is causing deeper tension in the broader U.S.-Israeli relationship. Still, despite the split, administration officials maintain the two countries are on the same page when it comes to the final outcome.

JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: There is no daylight between the United States and Israel when it comes to the objective of preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

SCIUTTO (voice-over): Still, whether an agreement can be reached that would assuage Israeli concerns, a permanent breach in the relationship remains very unlikely.

AARON DAVID MILLER, WOODROW WILSON INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR SCHOLARS: Unlike Lehman Brothers, the U.S.-Israeli relationship really is too big to fail. And I suspect these differences over time will be accommodated, but not happily.

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SCIUTTO: And it's not just Israel standing in the way. At the same time you have a push on Capitol Hill for new added sanctions against Iran, is the administration's position. If you add sanctions now, that will destroy the chance for talks here. But the administration feels it could only push off on other sanctions, push for another couple of weeks or so before the end of the legislative calendar this year. And that's why they believe that this is the window now to make a deal.

If they're going to get through it, Kate, this is their chance to do it. But still a lot of issues standing in the way.

BOLDUAN: Clearly the pressure is on. We're going to be talking about this and much more, coming up, with the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations later in the show.

Thank you so much, Jim, for the update.

Now to a developing story out of North Korea, where an American tourist is being detained. The son of 85-year-old Merrill Newman says his dad, a Korean War veteran, was pulled from a plane by authorities as he was leaving the country back in October and he hasn't been heard from since.

CNN's David McKenzie has more of the details. So what more are we learning, David?

DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kate, it's a very disturbing story.

This Palo Alto native, Merrill Newman, 85 years old, he's a Korean War veteran. He was in Korea for a nine-day visit last month. On the evening before he left, apparently, he was hauled out by his North Korean government minder, some sort of discussion ensued, according to his family, then let's listen how it all went down after that. Listen to his son.

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JEFF NEWMAN, SON OF MERRILL NEWMAN: They went to dinner. It was Friday night. Next morning they got up, checked out of the hotel, went to the airport, got on the plane. Apparently five minutes before they were ready to depart, an authority came on the plane, looked at my dad, asked to see my dad's passport and he was asked to leave the plane.

MCKENZIE (voice-over): And Mr. Newman hasn't been heard from yet by his family. U.S. officials we've spoken to saying they're trying to give every assistance to this family.

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MCKENZIE: They are even trying to get medicine through the Swedish embassy into that country because Mr. Newman has a heart condition. Certainly very disturbing developments.

And a further sign that Americans, including Kenneth Bae, who has been there for several months in North Korea, are not getting out anytime soon. And this will definitely develop in the coming days -- Kate and Chris.

BOLDUAN: Absolutely, David. Thank you so much.

It's so disturbing because his son said he's been planning this trip for months. He's long been interested in the country and the culture. And he was really enjoying his time there. He had been sending postcards back and then now he's disappeared.

CUOMO: And it's one of those reasons, why, as uncomfortable as people get about having relations with what we sees as hostile countries, if you don't have them, and a situation like this happens, what do you do?

We'll keep watching that, that's for sure.

Coming up on "NEW DAY", Ted Cruz is and will be important in the Obamacare debate. And his interview got a lot of you people popping. So now there's real debate about the way forward. Tweet us and then watch our pros go at it. BOLDUAN: When you talk about pros we're talking about Chris as well.

Also ahead, A-Rod erupts. Alex Rodriguez storming out of a hearing yesterday and then blasting the commissioner of baseball. We'll tell you what he had to say about Bud Selig and his beloved Yankees.

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BOLDUAN: Welcome back to "NEW DAY", everyone. Let's start with our political "Gut Check" of the morning. There's been some, I guess we could call it strong reaction from both parties over Senator Ted Cruz's interview, when he was on "NEW DAY" yesterday. We're going to break down his comments and what it means for him and the party going forward.

Here with us to talk about it, CNN's political analyst and executive director of "The Daily Beast," John Avlon, and CNN political commentator and columnist for "The Blaze," Will Cain.

Good morning.

JOHN AVLON, POLITICAL ANALYST: Good morning.

WILL CAIN, POLITICAL ANALYST: Good morning.

BOLDUAN: Let's listen to a little bit of the interview with Chris and then let's discuss.

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CUOMO: I looked at the list of bills that you've sponsored. There's not one that offers a solution to the current problems with health care except to get rid of the existing law. Is that enough?

SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: Well, that's the only solution that will work. All of these Band-Aid fixes that the president is pushing, the congressional Democrats are pushing, won't fix the problem.

Every one of those bills, they have great titles, like, "if you like your plan you can really, really, really keep them," but if they were passed into law, it wouldn't fix the problem for the 5 million people who have lost their health insurance; they wouldn't get it back.

The way to get --

CUOMO: You don't think have you have a responsibility as a U.S. senator to do better than that in terms of offering a solution for what to do next?

CRUZ: Well, I -- I appreciate your trying to lecture me in the morning. Thank you for that.

CUOMO: No, no, no, not all, Senator.

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BOLDUAN: And then the discussion went on to talk about solutions or lack thereof of seeking solutions.

What do you think of it, Will?

CAIN: What do I think of it? Well, look, Chris has asked me this question sitting right here before. And I think I have a question in response first.

When you ask --

CUOMO: Don't you lecture me.

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BERMAN: You're already 30 seconds in. Keep going.

CAIN: When you ask a Republican or a conservative, what are your solutions, I want to be clear. What are we talking about? What are solutions to Obamacare's failures or what are solutions to the health care market?

CUOMO: Both. I think that the responsibility is from Democrats and Republicans is to find ways forward. You cannot be content watching the other party's failures somehow lift you up. That's my concern here.

The failures are obvious. And maybe they will continue. Maybe there will be more manifestations of them. But be straight about the numbers in preimplementation and find ways to fix it. That's your job. It's not your job to (INAUDIBLE).

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BOLDUAN: (INAUDIBLE)?

AVLON: The reason Will answered a question with a question is because conservatives really aren't focused on the underlying health care problems in the country. Their solution is to simply get rid of Obamacare. It's an ideological crusade. They believe it deeply.

But the overall problem, or the pretense that our current health care plan is -- in the country is perfect, which just isn't real. The issue is, and to your point, you have got to propose a new solution if you're going to oppose. But right now Republicans are completely fixated on opposition, not proposition.

CAIN: Here's why I answered a question with a question because we need precision here.

When Democrats or anyone asks Republicans to come in and fix the problems with Obamacare, I think it's rich. It's saying the guy who has warned you that you will be a bull in a china closet, once you're in the china closet and breaking things up, you turn around and go, come on and help us fix this, we know you warned, but sweep, sweep, do something. I think that's rich.

Now if we're talking about the health care market, that's different. And Cruz began -- I think began to give you an answer. The problem there is we're going to be at loggerheads. We're pulling in opposite directions.

We believe you must inject market forces in the health care market, just like the iPhone market, you reduce cost and create access. So you need selling across state lines, you need health savings accounts, you need incentives for catastrophic insurance.

AVLON: Yes. And look, Will Cain is right to the extent that there have been Republican plans in the past. One of them is this president's plan, which was originally proposed by The Heritage Foundation and embraced by Republicans in the 1990s in the Senate as an alternative to HillaryCare.

The problem historically has been is that Republicans in the U.S. Senate have gotten serious about health care only when there's a counter to a Democratic plan that they try to reflexively paint as socialism. So that is why we are at loggerheads.

It's not just an ideological difference. And Will Cain and I can even agree on third-party payer and other problems that drive up costs. But instead of trying to figure out where the common ground, it's slash and burn; it's demonization instead of actually trying to poke through a solution.

CAIN: John and I have had this debate several times.

AVLON: Many times.

CAIN: The invocation of the Heritage paper, a paper by one guy at one think tank some 20-odd years ago --

AVLON: The most conservative think tank.

CAIN: -- does not represent a consensus in the Republican Party. They never advocate for this.

And you don't get to have two arguments at the same time. You don't get to say this was a Republican idea and say Republicans have never done anything about health care.

If we wanted this idea, we would have done it when we had the House, the Senate and the presidency. We need to inject market forces. That's what we advocate for.

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BOLDUAN: That's where I think something is being missed in this. You're talking about the need, when you're a leader, to govern. But I think what Republicans are looking at is the political reality on the ground.

There is really no motivation for the Republicans to offer an alternative at this point. When you look at the poll numbers -- I was just looking back at the latest ABC poll. When you look at who -- if you're likely to vote for a congressional candidate who favors Obamacare, it's completely flipped from July 2012 until now. There's no motivation to offer an alternative plan. So you're talking about governing or winning an election.

AVLON: Look, look, policy and politics are often at odds. I don't want to break some news here on air.

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AVLON: But look, part of the problem in our politics right now is everything is a negative cycle. Parties only gain when the other guy screws up. And that has nothing to do with governing.

And look, don't kid yourselves. If this plan had been put forward by President Romney in 2008 as it likely would have, Republicans would be defending it to the death because their team proposed it. But because the Democrats proposed it, all of a sudden it's evil.

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CUOMO: (INAUDIBLE) responsible. I think the one mistake is to look at this as being anti-GOP in this current iteration. I think that this is a problem that both parties are dealing with. And they're doing it because it works better for them than the tough work of compromise.

That's why we're doing it. We saw it with the shutdown. Democrats don't like the analogy. So we saw it with that.

BOLDUAN: (INAUDIBLE) perfect (INAUDIBLE).

CUOMO: But I'll tell you what was discouraging to me, the idea of a solution bias. Made my head hurt when I was reading that that's what you were talking about.

CAIN: Me.

CUOMO: The day -- yes. The day that government no longer is about finding ways to compromise and move forward on what matters is the day that government no (INAUDIBLE) --

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