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Aired November 21, 2013 - 08:00 ET
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Giant 4241 heavy, confirm you know which airport you're at?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, we think we have a pretty good pulse.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Happening now, a giant cargo plane stranded in Kansas after landing at the wrong airport. The runway too short for it to take off.
And on a JetBlue plane, the emergency slide opens inside mid-flight. We're tracking it all.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: No excuse, the Florida congressman caught with cocaine pleads guilty in court and now he's talking, his emotional press conference and what he plans to do next.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN HOST: The surprising pope, Pope Francis, fascinates the world, now one of the men who knows him well, Cardinal Dolan, joins us live.
Your NEW DAY continues right now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is "NEW DAY" with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan and Michaela Pereira.
BOLDUAN: Good morning, and welcome back to "NEW DAY". It's Thursday, November 21st, 8 o'clock in the east.
Breaking news overnight, a large, very large cargo plane landed by mistake at a Wichita, Kansas, airport, about 12 miles from where it was supposed to touch down. Now here's the issue. The runway at Wichita's Jabara Airport is too short for the massive plane to take off. What a problem. CNN's Rene Marsh is live in Washington with more on this.
So what are they going to do, Rene?
RENE MARSH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Kate, you know, to steal a line, they've landed and they can't take off, it is a huge embarrassment for these pilots, it took off from JFK right there in New York and now because of the foul-up, they're stuck at an airport, it is too small, the airport is too small for this massive plane. The FAA is now investigating what caused this cockpit confusion.
MARSH (voice-over): A giant cargo plane stranded in Wichita, Kansas, this morning, after making a big mistake, landing at the wrong airport, 10 miles away from where it was supposed to.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Giant 4241 heavy, confirm you know which airport you're at?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, we think we have a pretty good pulse.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Giant 4241 heavy, roger, you -- it appears you are at Jabara.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Say again?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Giant 4241 heavy, we saw the plane on the radar and it appears that you are at Jabara airport.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Say again the name of it again?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jabara.
MARSH (voice-over): The jet was supposed to land at the McConnell Air Force Base Late last night but it somehow ended up at the Jabara airport.
Making matters worse, Jabara has no control tower and a runway that's only half the length of McConnell's, so as it is now the 747 Dreamlifter cannot take off from there, the runway is too short.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: McConnell is nine miles southeast.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir, we just landed at the other airport.
MARSH (voice-over): And it doesn't end there.
A tug that was on its way to help move the Dreamlifter broke down, according to Wichita affiliate KWCH. Landings at the wrong airport have happened before. Last year a passenger plane carrying 14 people landed at the wrong airport in West Virginia, and a military jet last year landed at tiny Tampa Airport in a residential area.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Giant 4241 heavy, that's J-A-B-A-R-R-A (sic).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. All right. Well, copy that.
MARSH (voice-over): But neither of those planes were as giant as the Dreamlifter, the modified passenger plane that Boeing says can haul more cargo than any other plane in the world.
MARSH: All right. So an update now on the situation there in Kansas. An official tells us that a tug has turned the plane around; it is now at the end of the runway, and it's been determined that the plane will be able to take off from this airport. The scheduled takeoff time is about five hours from now. Our affiliates are reporting they are simply at this point waiting for a new crew -- Kate.
BOLDUAN: All right. We'll see how that -- well, keep tracking that for us but, also, a wild night in the skies because there was another incident to talk about involving a JetBlue flight yesterday and an emergency slide deploying.
MARSH: That's right, this JetBlue flight, we know that some 74 people were on board at the time, headed to Boston; it had to divert to Orlando because that slide partially deployed. We can tell you no injuries at this point and it deployed in the front area of the plane. It was able to land safely but again, FAA also investigating that incident to figure out how in the world that happened.
BOLDUAN: No kidding. All right, Rene, thanks for keeping track of it all for us this morning.
CUOMO: All right. Florida congressman Trey Radel is leaving office because he needs to fight his substance abuse problem. The freshman Republican pleaded guilty to coke possession, called his arrest in a narcotics sting "a wake-up call." CNN's Alina Machado is live from Cape Coral, Florida, watching this for us.
Good morning, Alina.
ALINA MACHADO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. The 37-year- old lawmaker flew in late last night. He came straight to his offices where he faced reporters and answered questions about his future.
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REP. TREY RADEL (R), FLA.: I have no excuse for what I've done.
MACHADO (voice-over): Contrite and apologetic, Republican Congressman Trey Radel announced late Wednesday night that he's taking a leave of absence from Congress after pleading guilty to possession of cocaine.
RADEL: I've let down our country. I've let down our constituents. I've let down my family.
MACHADO (voice-over): The freshman lawmaker says he is accepting responsibility for his actions.
RADEL: I have been getting the help that I need and I will continue to get the help that I need.
MACHADO (voice-over): Federal agents arrested Radel back in October during a drug sting. Court documents say he bought 3.5 grams of cocaine worth $260 from an undercover officer. Radel calls his actions, quote, "extremely irresponsible," and says he has been struggling with addiction for years.
RADEL: I knew that this day would come. I've been struggling with this but I have had my wake-up call.
MACHADO (voice-over): Earlier Wednesday Radel was at Washington, D.C.'s Superior Court where he ignored questions from reporters.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this related to your alcoholism?
MACHADO (voice-over): Radel has been sentenced to a year of probation and if it's successfully completed, his guilty plea will be cleared from his record. He was facing up to 180 days in prison. Some are now calling for Radel to step down.
MELANIE SLOAN, CITIZENS FOR RESPONSIBILITY AND ETHICS: Trey Radel needs to resign right away. He committed a crime. Members of Congress swear to uphold the laws, not break them.
MACHADO (voice-over): The former journalist and father of a 2-year- old son stopped short of resigning. Instead he says he is focused on rebuilding trust with his family.
RADEL: The first thing that I need to do tonight is go to begin to mend that trust and relationship with my wife, who is with me, who will continue to stand with me, who I love, who is my rock. I'm going to hug my little guy, even if he is asleep tonight and I'm going to work to do everything I can to be strong, to come out as a better man.
MACHADO (voice-over): Radel also said he would enter an intensive inpatient program to get treatment for substance abuse. He hopes to set an example for those who struggle with addiction.
MACHADO: An aide for the congressman tells us the congressman will be checking himself into rehab this morning. He says he'll be checking into a facility in nearby Naples, Florida -- Kate.
BOLDUAN: All right, Alina, thank you for that.
A possible breakthrough this morning in nuclear talks with Iran. Negotiations resuming in Geneva Wednesday with new hope. The West would agree to roll back economic sanctions if Iran halts some of its nuclear activities but some lawmakers as well as major U.S. allies consider it a fool's errand. CNN's Jim Sciutto is in Geneva with much more on this.
So how are things looking right now, Jim?
JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF U.S. SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Well, they finished their morning session, Kate, we can report some incremental progress, the Iranians saying their confidence has been restored after this morning's session and the European side telling us there was serious and substantial talks this morning.
And now they get into the detailed discussions, and that's really the test, those details of whether they can come to this historic agreement.
SCIUTTO (voice-over): Negotiators return to Geneva with the same unresolved question, could they succeed where years of negotiations have failed with a breakthrough deal on Iran's nuclear program?
As the talks got under way in Geneva, back in Washington, Secretary of State John Kerry said the administration is in no rush.
JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: We will not allow this agreement, should it be reached -- and I say should it be reached -- to buy time or to allow for the acceptance of an agreement that does not properly address our core fundamental concerns.
SCIUTTO (voice-over): The key sticking point to any final deal is how much of Iran's nuclear program will remain in place?
The White House is comfortable with a peaceful program within strict limits and under strict verification. But its closest regional ally, Israel, insists Iran's program should be entirely dismantled.
In Moscow, lobbying Russia to force a tougher deal, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu cited the ongoing destruction of Syria's weapons as a model. This sharp disagreement over Iran is causing deeper tension in the broader U.S.-Israeli relationship. Still, despite the split, administration officials maintain the two countries are on the same page when it comes to the final outcome.
JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: There is no daylight between the United States and Israel when it comes to the objective of preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.
SCIUTTO (voice-over): Still, whether an agreement can be reached that would assuage Israeli concerns, a permanent breach in the relationship remains very unlikely.
AARON DAVID MILLER, WOODROW WILSON INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR SCHOLARS: Unlike Lehman Brothers, the U.S.-Israeli relationship really is too big to fail. And I suspect these differences over time will be accommodated, but not happily.
SCIUTTO: It's not only Israel that's opposing the deal; you have opposition from Capitol Hill as well, pushing for new sanctions right in the midst of these talks.
It's the administration's position that new sanctions would destroy the chance for talks but they feel they can really only push them off perhaps to the end of this congressional session, the end of the year, and that's why, Michaela, many in the administration and in Europe as well feel this might be the last best chance for an agreement.
PEREIRA: All right. Jim Sciutto, we'll be watching. Thank you so much for that.
To our headlines now. No apology in a new letter from President Obama to Afghan President Karzai, but the two countries do have a deal on a bilateral security agreement stretching into the next decade. Karzai and Secretary of State Kerry finalizing a plan that outlines the support role of U.S. troops in Afghanistan once America's combat mission ends there next year.
In a letter to Karzai, President Obama promises U.S. forces will continue to make every effort to respect the sanctity and dignity of Afghans in their homes and in their daily lives.
An 85-year-old Korean War vet has been detained in North Korea. Merrill Newman's son tells CNN the California man was touring the country with a friend and just as he was about to leave, he was taken off the plane. This happened about a month ago. The family has not heard from him since. The State Department will only say it is aware of the reports of Newman's disappearance.
Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds is doing better; he has been upgraded now to good condition after he was stabbed reportedly by his own son, Gus. His 24-year-old son later killed himself. Officials are now investigating why his son was released from psychiatric care the day before the attack.
The NSA surveillance programs will be under the microscope once again today. The Senate Judiciary Committee will hold another hearing on the government's use of surveillance. Committee chairman Patrick Leahy of Vermont says he is concerned the NSA has overreached. This is the committee's third hearing on the matter this year.
I want to show you a mysterious fireball over the skies of Oregon. Nobody seems to know what it is yet. Some say it's a meteor, some say it's contrails from a jet, others say it is merely the rising sun reflecting off clouds. You might recall a few weeks ago another fireball believed to be a meteor was reported above the Pacific Northwest. Experts say it likely landed in the Pacific Ocean but, oh, what a sight.
CUOMO: What is it? What do you think it is?
PEREIRA: Yes, Neil deGrasse Tyson would probably tell me I'm right.
CUOMO: Kate B?
BOLDUAN: What is the other option?
PEREIRA: The sun reflecting off the blah, blah, blah.
Contrails from a jet.
PEREIRA: Oh. Well, see. We didn't think that.
CUOMO: Indra, what is it?
INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I'm going to go with meteorite but again, not an astronomy major.
PETERSONS: I'm taking this back, Kate, it's Superman.
BOLDUAN: Thank you.
PEREIRA: Superman on fire?
PETERSONS: I know he wants to hear it.
PETERSONS: That's right.
All right. We're going to take you guys, we're still talking about the big snow that's out there, we're talking about over a foot of snow in through Colorado today, even leftover snow showers into the Sierras. It's a two-sided system here, though. Keep in mind, up where it's cold, around the northern portions here of the system, we're talking about the snow.
The bottom of the system, we're talking about so many heavy rain, again all of this streaming in from way off the ocean, there's Hawaii, you can see it streaming in all the way across the entire Pacific and looping around that low.
So with that we're talking about flood warnings likely, heavy amounts of rain, anywhere from four to six inches of rain -- may not sound like a lot to you but in the Southwest it's definitely a larger amount of rain than they can typically handle in that short period of time.
Next system we're looking at, here is the cold front, already producing showers into the Midwest today, really stretching from the Great Lakes all the way down through Texas, still looking at some heavier amounts around the Gulf, maybe only about an inch through Illinois today.
It is the same system that will push across and give the Northeast and mid-Atlantic some showers likely late Friday in through Saturday.
The other story is the cold air behind the cold front. So here you go. Let's get some perspective, guys. New York City 53 -- this is tomorrow, beautiful start to the weekend, Philly 58 and maybe some light showers come in.
Once that ends we are talking about those temperatures dropping to something like this, yes, try like 23 in upstate New York, New York City, right at the freezing mark, Philly and New York City, by the way, you talk about 20s and 30s, it means some snow. (INAUDIBLE) just a hint. (INAUDIBLE). BOLDUAN: All about the layers, people. All about the layers.
PETERSONS: Give me some.
BOLDUAN: Got plenty for you. (INAUDIBLE)?
CUOMO: Coming up on "NEW DAY", what is it about the pope? Big heart, tiny car, making friends, raising eyebrows all over the world.
BOLDUAN: Look at that little boy.
CUOMO: We'll have a look and a talk with New York's Cardinal Timothy Dolan what makes the pontiff so popular. Enjoy, it's on us, Cardinal.
BOLDUAN: Also ahead, it's a time to remember and a time to heal in Dallas. We're going to look at how the city is marking 50 years since it became the site of President Kennedy's assassination.
CUOMO: Welcome back. Pope Francis is just eight months into his papacy, but he's already gotten the attention of more than just the faithful from taking a stance on social issues like homosexuality and choosing to lead a humble life. Pope Francis is breaking the mold.
We're going to talk with Cardinal Timothy Dolan about the pontiff. But first, I want to give you a look at how Pope Francis is shaking things up.
CUOMO (voice-over): The cheers are so loud you'd think it's a rock star. And to many, he is. Pope Francis, the first pontiff from South America, already beloved by the faithful, for his humility and hands- on approach. Just 10 days on the job, he got down on bended knee to wash the feet of juvenile delinquents, one a Muslim. This month, he made headlines for his compassionate embrace of these disabled men.
He didn't mind when this little boy upstaged him during a homily, simply smiling, patting the boy's head, even accepting a kiss on the cross hanging around his neck. Pope Francis is also making waves with hot button social issues, chastising the church for being too consumed with gay marriage, contraception, and abortion, a cause for concern among some conservatives.
When asked about his thoughts on homosexuality, the pope answered simply -- "who am I to judge?" This month, he announced he's asking Catholics in a poll to share their thoughts on the new modern family. Pope Francis shunned the official papal apartments for more modest quarters and gets around in a 1984 Renault, all to have more daily contact with ordinary people. He's a pope that people can relate to, not just from the pews but on social media as well, a verified Vatican man with more than 10 million followers on Twitter. He even appeared in a selfie.
CUOMO (on-camera): Good job in that. Joining us now is Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the archbishop of New York. Cardinal, it's great to have you with us.
CARDINAL TIMOTHY DOLAN, ARCHBISHOP OF NEW YORK: Thank you, Chris. Good to be with you.
CUOMO: You will get the inaugural coffee cup.
DOLAN: Thank you.
CUOMO: I want you to know that. So let me take one step into the past. We're in Rome, at the conclave.
CUOMO: You came out afterwards, very generous with your time. You sat and talked to us. I revealed some reporting that I'd heard that you had been somewhat instrumental in raising the name of then Cardinal Bergoglio, making sure he got his due. Even then as excited, as you were about the promise of this pope, could you have imagine that he would have had the impact, not on the faithful, but on the world that he's having (ph)?
DOLAN: No. It's been a great -- it's been a pleasant surprise. I am thrilled with the effect that he's had on the world. I can't walk anywhere in this city, which I love to do, by the way, walk around the streets of New York without people coming up to me saying, hey, thanks for the gift of Pope Francis.
Now, these are people who are catholic, these are garbage collectors, cab drivers, bartenders, you know, who come up and say, I'm not catholic, I'm not even religious or I used to be a catholic and I left the faith. This guy is great. Thank you for the gift of Francis. So hallelujah. What a gift he is.
BOLDUAN: Chris described it really well in that piece leading up, but how would you describe the Francis effect?
DOLAN: I would -- simplicity and sincerity I think is what it is. He's simply himself. This is, I'm quick to say this, because I think in the United States, we often think like our politicians, they have a strategy, they have experts saying this is how you've got to be, this is what you've got to do if you're going to win the people's affections. He doesn't need that. He's simply himself.
I had the honor of sitting down with him for about a half hour three or four weeks ago when I was in Rome and I when I told him, I said, holy father, you need to know that people love you, you're sincere. He just started shrugged and he said, well, I am who I am. It's not like he's got this marketing strategy. He's just himself.
PEREIRA: And being a man of the people couldn't come at a more important time really -- when you think about it, when you think about the scandal that's plagued the church here in America.
DOLAN: You got it.
PEREIRA: People are losing their faith in a way.
DOLAN: You're on to something.
PEREIRA: Does it make you feel like we've got a chance to sort of get some of the believers and people back in?
DOLAN: He said that. He said what we need to do is reestablish a warmth and a tenderness in the church. Now, he's not. He loves Pope Benedict, his predecessor. He speaks about it with affection and gratitude and we all know Pope Benedict's great care (ph) was the mind, was the brain. He had this ability with this amazing precision and reasoning to present the timeless trues of the faith.
What a gift he was. Pope John Paul II, the man of fortitude and courage, we needed that. I think now what we're saying and Pope Francis knows it, we need somebody to restore that sense of embrace, that warmth, that tenderness and he's doing it on steroids, right?
DOLAN: And there's your lead-in to the A-Rod story.
CUOMO: God loves the Yankees. God loves the Yankees, cardinal. You know God loves the Yankees. You know, this gets difficult, though, because now, the pope has this message that comes out and cardinals like yourself it is now about putting the boots on the ground, so as it were with the message and there will be conflict. You will have Catholics who will come and say what is this about homosexuality that's not for him to judge?
You have been outspoken on these issues as your role in the church. How do you balance this? Yes, he's the pope.
CUOMO: He's the supreme figure in the Catholic Church. But how do you balance with people who aren't going to like this change? DOLAN: And balance is a good word, but see, we're used to it. So, for instance, when John Paul and Benedict, they were excellent on what you might say the clarity of the church is teaching, all right? So then we had to deal with people who felt alienated from the church because we had popes who were brilliant in expressing the timeless vigor of the church's teaching.
Now, we've got a pope that says you know another aspect of that teaching, the teaching is there, it's as clear as ever but another aspect is mercy, love, tenderness, inclusion. So you're right, Christopher. Now, there's going to be people who are going to say, well now, we feel alienated that this man is diminishing the truth of the church. We need both. Catholicism is a both/and project. It's not an either/or. So, he's a nice balance. I'm glad you used that word.
BOLDUAN: And how would you respond to -- most recently we know conservative politicians kind of uneasy with maybe the pope's approach, calling him liberal on social issues. I mean, he seemed someone that is difficult to fit into a box.
BOLDUAN: What do you say to politicians who try to take him on like this?
DOLAN: We always -- I think church teachers always are. Pastors always are, because we don't want to be politicians, we're pastors. And who is our model? Our model is not going to be some pollster. Our model is always going to be Jesus, OK? And Jesus was always able to teach the truth with love and mercy. Now, there's where the balance is, right?
BOLDUAN: There's the balance.
DOLAN: So Jesus was able to say to that the woman caught in adultery, 'Neither do I condemn you; I love you. But by the way, don't sin anymore.' So he's got in both (ph), see? Francis is doing that. Now, we tend -- I think we tend to zero in on what's new, what's innovative, especially you, that's your business. You call it the news.
What's new with this man? Well, that approach of tenderness and mercy is new. It's innovative. We need it big time, but that doesn't mean the other is excluded.
PEREIRA: Well, and it distract (ph) me as you were talking about that keeping the traditions of the church, the timeless vigor of the churches work, which you spoke about. We're in a new world order. The world has changed and aligning those two. That's like the biggest balance struggle of all.
DOLAN: It is. It is. How to present, this is always the case, how to present the timeless trues of the faith in a timely way, and that's always, that's always tough, isn't it? John XXIII, remember him? You all are too young. Pope Francis is going to canonize him. John XXIII said, you know, the teaching at the church is like a gift that's always there. It's an eternal gift.
But we got to wrap it in a more attractive way. We have to gift wrap this timeless, unchanging truth in a more attractive appealing way. There is the challenge, isn't it, the pastoral challenge.
CUOMO: I think one of the things that Cardinal Bergoglio, obviously now, Pope Francis had said that the ultimate message of the truth is that the kingdom of God is now and the message is love. And if you go back to that, obviously, everything becomes reasonable --
CUOMO: You can have that card. Let me ask you something about the news, though, while we're on it.
CUOMO: Something comes across the wires, Kate showed it to me, that no less than Vladimir Putin is going to the Vatican to talk to the pontiff about what should be happening in Syria.
DOLAN: So I hear.
CUOMO: Intriguing. Any insight into what the message is supposed to be there? Is this something that the church wants to involve itself in?
DOLAN: Yes. You know that from the fourth century what we call the Holy Sea, which is the pope's government and the church universal has always been a center not only of the next world but of this one. And there's always been diplomats who have come to the pope because he kind of has a universal gaze and a solicitude.
So, in a way, world leaders going to see the bishop of Rome, the pope are not new. You're on to something though, Chris, and that there seemed to be -- there seems to be a heightened attention to the role of Francis. We saw that in Syria. Here is a man who was able to say something and get the attention of Putin who ended up agreeing with the pope and saying Francis is on to something.
Let's do what he said. Now, I was just with a group the other night of prominent leaders in New York, most of whom are not catholic, and they said your pope is the most credible leader in the world today.
In a time when we're used to leaders who are waffling, who are kind of back and forth, who are weak, who are vacillating with all this intrigue, you got a man who simply stands up and tells the unvarnished truth and calls us to the nobility and the perfection that we know is deep down inside of us, these people created in the image and likeness of God.
And this, the one fellow who's a commentator on another channel other than yours said to me, this is realism, this is real, because what the pope is talking about is not something otherworldly. He's talking about things that are eminently doable now. And that's why people like Putin are beating a path to his door, saying this guy is worth listening to.
This guy is worth aligning ourselves with because he makes sense and he's got an immense credibility so hallelujah. We call him the Vicar of Christ. We say Jesus is the prince of peace. He's the vicar of the prince of peace. So, when it comes to matters of international peace and justice, no wonder he's on the front --
BOLDUAN: Maybe he should be taking a weekend trip to Geneva to help out with the negotiations --
DOLAN: Sure. Not bad.
BOLDUAN: Great to see you.
DOLAN: Way to go. All right? Am I going to get one of these mugs?
CUOMO: Can you get the cardinal a cup?
DOLAN: Thank you. Yes.
BOLDUAN: We've got a clean one for you.
DOLAN: Chris puts Irish coffee in his?
CUOMO: Explains everything.
BOLDUAN: Cardinal, tell the truth. Truth the power. Great to see you.
PEREIRA: What a delight to have you here, sir.
DOLAN: Happy thanksgiving.
PEREIRA: Thanks. To you as well.
BOLDUAN: Coming up next on "NEW DAY", the growing feud between Sarah Palin and NBC. Why the former vice presidential candidate abruptly canceled an interview with the "Today" show.
CUOMO: -- taking on NBC, was taking on the pope. We'll take it on as well.
And, on the eve of the 50th anniversary of JFK's death, we will take to you Dallas where people are honoring the president's memory and also reliving the lingering pain from that day. What's it like to live in the city where the world changed? A live report straight ahead.