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British Police: No Evidence of Murder; Putin & Ukraine President Meet; Human or Robot?; Justin Tucker Helped Ravens Win; Beatles to Release New Album
Aired December 17, 2013 - 06:30 ET
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MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: And they concluded today in the report that there is no credible that the SAS, the special forces, were involved in the deaths of Diana or Dodi. So it does at last seem to end this theory that the special forces were in any way involved in this crash.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: That theory, but what about other conspiracy theories that linger out there that you're well aware of, Max? What about those, did they say anything about tying them all up or does it just get continued?
FOSTER: Well, you know, there are so many other theories out there. People think it's too convenient that Diana was this problem and she died. Dodi Fayed's father, Mohamed al-Fayed, he actually issued a statement today, he's not happy with this at all. He says he's disappointed but not discouraged. He says simply the latest whitewash in a 16-year cover-up.
CUOMO: All right. Max, thank you very much. We'll keep following this. People are interested. We know that.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Coming up next on NEW DAY, robocall or real person? Listen.
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SAMANTHA: No. I am a real person. Maybe we have a bad connection. I'm sorry about that.
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BOLDUAN: Blame it on the bad connection. Wait until you hear the newest way telemarketers may be trying to keep you on the line.
CUOMO: And you're a Beatle fan? How about an early holiday gift? How about 59 new songs from the Fab Four? They just hit iTunes today. We'll tell you why and why you better get there quick.
BOLDUAN: Welcome back. Let's go around the world now.
Starting in Moscow where Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected to meet with Ukraine's embattled leader.
CNN's Diana Magnay has that.
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DIANA MAGNAY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Kate, Ukraine's president is on Moscow to talk trade with Russia's president, Vladimir Putin. On the table, cheaper gas for Ukraine and a possible loan injection. This after Ukraine pulled out of a trade deal with the European union. Ukraine desperately needs cash to avoid defaulting on its debt.
Russia may help out but it won't be easy money. The fear is that the president will bind them closer to Russia when they want to look West -- Kate.
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BOLDUAN: Diana, thank you so much.
And in China, activists have released a new report about increased human rights abuses in the country. Ivan Watson has that from Shanghai.
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IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Last month, China banned its controversial reeducation through labor camp system where officials could basically throw you into forced labor for up to four years without any access to open trial. Well, Amnesty International has researched this. They say they've seen some of these centers close, some of the political and religious dissidents in turn there released.
But in some cases, they say the changes are merely cosmetic, that some of the inmates are being kept in what are now described as drug addict interment centers or mental institutions and in some cases, people are being interned in black unofficial prisons. Amnesty is saying that's got to stop.
Back to you, Kate.
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BOLDUAN: Ivan, thank you so much.
In the U.K., a musical heartthrob gets a major win over the paparazzi.
Eric McLaughlin is in London with more.
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ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: One Direction star Harry Styles is telling the British paparazzi to back off. And now, he has a court order to make that happened. London's high court ordered a group of unidentified paparazzi to stay away for now. They're not allowed to loiter within 50 meters of the singer's home and they're not allowed to pursue him. Now, Styles' attorneys say this is a harassment injunction. It's not a privacy injunction.
Legal experts tell me we can expect to see a flood of similar celebrity applications in the future, that things are moving in one direction, in favor of the celebrities.
Back to you, Kate.
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BOLDUAN: All right. Erin, thank you so much for that.
Good turn of phrase.
So, robot or human? Are you robot or are you human?
CUOMO: That's an ironic question.
BOLDUAN: Up for debate.
Telemarketing calls are getting more misleading. Several "TIME" magazine reporters spoke on the phone with an upbeat woman offering health insurance deals. But the reporters weren't convinced she was real, as much as she assured them she was.
Take a listen.
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REPORTER: Hey, are you a robot?
SAMANTHA: What? No. I am a real person. Maybe we have a bad connection. I'm sorry about that.
REPORTER: Will you tell me you're not a robot? Just say, "I'm not a robot". Please?
SAMANTHA: I am a real person.
REPORTER: I mean, I believe you, but will you say, "I'm not a robot"? It will make me feel better to hear you say it.
SAMANTHA: There is a live person here.
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BOLDUAN: Wanting to get to the bottom of it.
CUOMO: If they were in person they would have known for sure. It's the whole over the phone thing that makes it tricky.
BOLDUAN: That's true.
BRETT LARSON, TECH EXPERT: Well, or is it how they get away with it because it's over the phone?
BOLDUAN: Brett Larson --
LARSON: It's like the HAL 9000.
CUOMO: Do you think it's an open question?
BOLDUAN: So, what do you think?
LARSON: I actually -- I think it at some point was a real person but I think it was probably a real person who went into a voiceover booth and was handed a script and said record these 87 phrases for a health care company, including I am a real person. Ha, ha, ha!
That to me was the creepiest part of the whole thing where it randomly starts laughing.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: But it begs the question, why the secrecy? Why do they need to hide it's a robot? It makes us talk about it, obviously.
LARSON: Which is good. You're right about that, because it's like, well, when I call the airline I'm not speaking to a real person.
CUOMO: People want to speak to real people. It's become a bit of a sensitivity. This is a hedge.
LARSON: Right, where we can put a real-sounding person who's going to answer, she was just there to answer some simple questions before she passed you off to --
BOLDUAN: An actual real person?
LARSON: An all real person. I think she happened to call the wrong person who said, did you just laugh?
CUOMO: Why spend the time coming up with those responses? You know? Why cater to the need then?
LARSON: Right. But the one response she never could answer what is the main ingredient of tomato soup? There was a giggle and, I'm sorry, do we have a bad connection?
BOLDUAN: What's the technology behind this?
LARSON: Well, it's definitely the same technology you have when you call the airline or the credit card company that says --
BOLDUAN: Just more advanced.
LARSON: Hi. Tell me your account number and I can help you. You tell it to it and it passes it off to someone. Or so you say, like, can I talk to an operator and they say, sure, just a moment.
It's interesting they've taken it to this degree of complication.
PEREIRA: It's amazing how reactive it is. I actually what if it's someone -- we know they've taken a lot of calls offshore, right? Somebody sitting in India, we know a lot of the call centers are based there, and they are able to comprehend the question and say it but there's just a digitized -- a filtered voice so that's how it can be specific except for the tomato soup question.
LARSON: Well, exactly. They're sitting in front of a sound board where --
LARSON: The company doesn't want to say anything because they don't want people to know they've outsourced that many more jobs. So they're going to say, oh, no, no. It's a real person, it's a real person, even though it's the call center.
BOLDUAN: Did the company confirm this is not a real person? That's there's not real person involved with this.
LARSON: They initially said that it was a real person and we don't have this technology and the number went busy.
PEREIRA: And apparently the Web site --
LARSON: And the Web site went down.
PEREIRA: "TIME" magazine said the website is gone.
LARSON: The companies would love nothing more if we stopped calling them and dealt with everything through the website, because then they have to have huge staffs of people.
BOLDUAN: Is the tomato soup question the question to ask?
LARSON: Definitely. That's an unusual question but it's very valid.
CUOMO: But we need to know, how can we tell if somebody is real or not when we're on the phone with them? Do you have tips?
LARSON: You could ask them -- a question I ask in general, how is the weather where you are today? Totally normal.
CUOMO: What am I wearing right now?
LARSON: If they can tell you what you're wearing, you have bigger problems.
CUOMO: Is a blue shirt on, what am I wearing right now? And if they don't answer --
PEREIRA: Do you spend a lot of time outsmarting the robocall?
CUOMO: Now that I know that this tomato-soup mystery is out there.
LARSON: Chris Cuomo's space odyssey.
BOLDUAN: You'd be a great voice for the technology.
LARSON: I've heard that before.
PEREIRA: You'd be sassy.
LARSON: That's the thing. I wouldn't be like, yes, I'm a real person. What are you talking about? I'm going to hang up on you. That's how I'll show you I'm real.
CUOMO: You missed your calling as a facsimile human voice. Mama would be proud.
LARSON: Yes, she would.
CUOMO: We have a real live meteorologist for you right now.
CUOMO: The real deal.
PEREIRA: No robot.
CUOMO: Indra Petersons may not look real but she is, I guarantee you that, to the CNN standard -- Indra.
INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I'm trying to figure out why Kate saying what to do. Did she not think this is real, Kate?
Yes, we definitely have snow out here this morning. It's like that wet snow, the one that makes it very difficult for your morning commute.
We'll show you what it looks like on the radar. If you're trying to head outdoors, you'd get a good idea of where the system is. We've already seen rain in Philly and some snow and it looks like this wet snow is here in New York City.
But still south of Boston. We're looking for good amounts today. I mean, still anywhere from two to four inches. We've upped it from yesterday.
So that's for New York City. Also for places like Boston we'll be talking about heavy amounts, even up towards Portland, Maine. Notice we're talking about heavier amounts as the low is expected to form off the coastline.
So, the timing you can see it has started for the morning commute. But remember, later in the day, we'll start to see it moving places like Boston as well. We're going to be watching for it really all of New England, and get some of the heavier snow as it go for the late afternoon today, and then it's the overnight period tonight in through tomorrow morning. They're really going to start to watch.
But what we have to watch is where this low forms, it makes all the difference. As far as whether or not Boston ups the totals or whether we up the totals in Maine. So, it's kind of tricky and we'll watch up that overnight tonight. But it does mean is also some winds are going to kick up at the same time.
The other thing you may want to note, you may already know -- it is cold. Yes, temperatures a good 10 to 15 degrees below normal in the Northeast, pretty much everywhere else in the country. They are above normal, beautiful in the Southeast and, of course, the other western half of the country, it all looks good. Here, snowy and a tough morning commute.
BOLDUAN: Well, watch it. Thanks, Indra.
BOLDUAN: Coming up next on NEW DAY: Paul McCartney, looking more like a fan than rock royalty at a Brooklyn Nets game. Find out what he was trying to get for free.
Details in bleacher report ahead.
CUOMO: No dedication to the catch.
BOLDUAN: He's, you know -- oh!
CUOMO: Speaking of Sir McCartney, never before heard tunes from Beatles were released overnight. New songs. You never heard them. Details just ahead and how you can get them.
CUOMO: Welcome back to NEW DAY. Boy, I've got to tell you, ever hear some teams say we just couldn't stop them last night, their kicker was too good. Nobody ever said that ever until last night on "Monday Night Football." The Ravens' Justin Tucker was the man. Not only did he kick the game winner, he scored all his points teams.
BOLDUAN: It's very (INAUDIBLE).
CUOMO: It's true. Andy Scholes told me so. He's got this morning's "Bleacher Report."
Is it true? ANDY SCHOLES, BLEACHER REPORT: It is true, Chris. You know, the Ravens, they couldn't buy a touchdown last night, but lucky for them, Justin Tucker was locked in. He made a franchise record six field goals in the game. He knocked them down from 29, 24, 32, 49, 53. And guys, he saved his best for last.
Check it out. This one is a 61-yarder with under a minute to go. It barely gets over the cross bar. Gave the Ravens the win. They beat the Lions, 18-16 despite not scoring a touchdown in the game.
You know how car dealerships, they always have those crazy promotion that if the impossible happens you get to keep the car for free? Well, it finally backfired on someone. A car dealership near Seattle last week said if the Seahawks shut out the Giants on Sunday 12 people would win $35,000 each. Sure enough, it happened. Now lucky for the car dealership they purchased a $7,000 insurance policy on the promotion. So the big loser in this deal is actually the insurance company.
Our number three in the live section on bleacherreport.com, today music legend Paul McCartney at the Brooklyn Nets game, and check him out. He really wants a free T-shirt. He says, hey, that was for me. Even for someone who's got 60 gold records, free T-shirt, too hard to pass up.
Guys, I don't know about you, the free T-shirt thing, it seems to be all about the hunt. I've caught three or four of them. I've never really worn the T-shirt. But I've always just been thrilled to get the T-shirt.
BOLDUAN: You are rubbing it in our faces. I have never caught a free T-shirt, Andy.
CUOMO: That's because -- because you have dedication to the catch. Sir Paul had no dedication to the catch.
BOLDUAN: Should he have dove over --
SCHOLES: He got to dive over those fans.
CUOMO: He got gator arms on him. I want it. I want -- you're not getting it. You've to give, you've got to give.
BOLDUAN: He reached a little --
CUOMO: You've got to dive, smash the kid in the face, catch the T- shirt.
PEREIRA: Wow. Yes.
PEREIRA: Wow. Took a turn.
SCHOLES: Love it.
CUOMO: You want it, you go for it. Come on, Paul.
BOLDUAN: Thanks, Andy.
SCHOLES: I'm with you, Chris.
CUOMO: Thank you, Andy.
BOLDUAN: What? Andy.
PEREIRA: All right. Here is some news you can use. While you were sleeping, Christmas came a little early if you are a Beatle fan. 59 rare, previously unreleased songs but briefly available on iTunes in a -- in certain countries early this morning. This newly released album includes unheard versions of iconic hits like "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "Twist and Shout."
Let's bring in CNN entertainment correspondent and Beatle fan, Nischelle Turner.
NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Yes.
PEREIRA: So let's -- so we know a couple of the tracks. Give us an idea of what else what was on this album and why it was so elusive.
TURNER: Well, first of all, it's a whole new generation of Beatle mania this morning.
TURNER: And you're right, like all of us who didn't grow up in that era are now enjoying the Beatles all over again because of this 59 unreleased tracks that have been released on iTunes.
Now what -- they're called the "Beatles Bootleg Recordings" in 1963. I love that. And like I said, 59 new tracks, 44 of them are live. And let me stop talking because we want to hear them sing, right?
TURNER: So let me give you a taste of what you guys can hear on iTunes this morning. Listen up.
So you're going to hear --
PEREIRA: All right. Tell me.
TURNER: I know.
PEREIRA: Why release them? I -- explain to folks how this all came to be. TURNER: Well, it's pretty simple. It's pretty simple. Because they don't want the copyright to expire.
TURNER: So that's why they're re-releasing them.
BOLDUAN: That's ruining the (INAUDIBLE), right?
TURNER: Exactly. The copyright is set to expire at the end of December. So what Apple Records is doing is re-releasing them. So under European Union laws, they can't -- the copyright won't expire and other companies can't profit off of this music. They did it with Bob Dylan's music, too.
TURNER: So it happens from time to time. But just to think that there are now 59 new Beatles tracks that you can listen to this morning. The kicker, though, you've got to act fast.
TURNER: Because they've been up for a short time on iTunes. They put them up and now they're unavailable in a lot of different places. They were up for about an hour in the UK. And one of our brilliant producers acted fast and got his download.
BOLDUAN: How can they maybe not even go back up? Was it just purely like we're going to put it up to get around these copyright issues or we'll just take them down?
TURNER: Well, here's what Universal is telling us. They're saying -- a source familiar to all of this is saying they will be up for the foreseeable future. When and where? Nobody knows.
CUOMO: Even that, if you grab one of the tracks within this window of availability before they start their new status of limitations on the copyright.
TURNER: Yes. Yes. Right.
CUOMO: Which his like 50 years.
TURNER: Yes, 50 years.
CUOMO: I think in the U.K. Seventy years some other places, you still have to pay all the other royalties that get attached to music.
TURNER: Yes, exactly.
CUOMO: So it's a little bit of, you know, catch you on the back end there.
PEREIRA: It makes me wonder because that era was so rich with great music are we going to see more of these copyright protections?
TURNER: Well, you don't know. I mean, you don't know. I would have to do my job and go back and check and see if there are more copyrights that are coming up to expiration.
PEREIRA: Yes. It makes you wonder.
TURNER: And if so, we definitely could see something like this. But you are right. This is Christmas comes early for Beatle fans if you can get your hands on these recordings, then merry Christmas to you. And happy holidays, too.
BOLDUAN: Have we tried it here?
PEREIRA: We've been trying -- we've been trying all morning.
TURNER: All night and all morning.
BOLDUAN: I love that Bob Dylan one. The subtitle of it was copyright extension collection.
BOLDUAN: Laying it out there.
CUOMO: Want to make it clear legally what it is.
TURNER: Exactly. And that's -- and you're right. That's exactly what it is. It's to protect the copyright expiration.
PEREIRA: That was our must hear moment. Now we'll have our must see moment.
PEREIRA: Might try must taste moment another time. Here is a dog that is not afraid to stand out from the pack. This -- in this clip has gone viral. Her canine buddies splish-splash around. None of it seems to interest her. Take a look. She's standing on her hind legs.
CUOMO: I was going to say, great water threading.
PEREIRA: That's threading on water. With the front paws only.
BOLDUAN: He was in the water?
PEREIRA: It's almost like she just got her hair did and doesn't want to mess up her new do? You know what I mean?
BOLDUAN: Is there a way that a dog doesn't know how to swim?
PEREIRA: Apparently this dog does and loves the water. That's what the post on -- the YouTube poster said. But she just sort of --
BOLDUAN: There you go.
PEREIRA: The other dogs are like, come on. Swim with us.
CUOMO: She seems a little transfixed by something on the side of the pool.
PEREIRA: There's probably a snack.
CUOMO: Right. What's going on that has the dogs -- see the ears were on that. What's that?
PEREIRA: I still go with the hair salon.
PEREIRA: The dog was at the salon earlier.
TURNER: Just got groomed. She doesn't want to mess up her do. Yes.
BOLDUAN: I'm with you.
CUOMO: I believe the dog is a robot.
CUOMO: What's the main ingredient in tomato soup?
BOLDUAN: Answer it, dog. No? OK.
PEREIRA: Must see moment. There you go.
Glad you stuck around for that, too, Nischelle.
TURNER: Thank you. I'm glad, thanks for letting me.
BOLDUAN: Coming up --
TURNER: I feel like I'm part of the family.
BOLDUAN: Final thoughts?
CUOMO: I was going to jump your (INAUDIBLE). Go ahead.
Coming up next on NEW DAY a federal judge slams the NSA's collection of phone records as likely unconstitutional but will the legal battle end up before the Supreme Court? That's also likely. We're talking to our legal experts about it.
CUOMO: Then a high school senior suspended for one year for hugging his teacher. Is the school going too far or is there more to the story?
I bet on the second part.
CUOMO: Almost Orwellian, a federal judge calls parts of the NSA spying program unconstitutional. Now this morning angry tech leaders are meeting with the president. What changes could come and what could they mean for your security?
BOLDUAN: Breaking this morning, a stunning report, Chinese hackers have broken into the agency in charge of overseeing U.S. elections. How did they do it and what's at risk.
PEREIRA: Not again. Another round of nasty weather hitting the east right now. Overnight, snow sent a Delta plane skidding off a runway. The question this morning, why so many storms so early?
CUOMO: Your NEW DAY starts right now.
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ANNOUNCER: What you need to know --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was thinking that maybe she had a bad day or something. Usually a hug would help a person in that case.
ANNOUNCER: What you just have to see.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're coming inside. I said oh, my God.
ANNOUNCER: This is New Day with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan and Michaela Pereira.
CUOMO: That is a pretty storm. Good morning. Welcome back to NEW DAY. It's Tuesday, December 17th, 7:00 in the East.
For the first time, the NSA's domestic phone surveillance program was challenged in open court and it took a hit.
In a scathing opinion a federal job says the program revealed by Edward Snowden is likely unconstitutional. The ruling Tuesday, December 17th. For the first time, the NSA's domestic surveillance was challenged in open court and it took a hit. The federal judge said the program revealed by Edward Snowden is likely unconstitutional.
The ruling has Snowden taking a victory lap but the NSA does not have to change course, at least not yet. And the U.S. certainly isn't changing its position on Snowden.
Chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto is joining us this morning from our Washington bureau to explain.
Jim, just one case, just one set of parties involved. But the implications could be significant, yes?
JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Chris. No question. So here's what it is, what it is. The judge ordered the government to stop collecting data on the plaintiffs in this case who was brought by a leading conservative activist. However for the rest of us, the state is ruling to allow the government time to appeal, noting, quote, "The significant national security interest at stake in this case" - that process could take six months - but he left no doubt as to what his legal thinking is.