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Dunn Convicted of Attempted Murder; Heavy Snow Buries New Englanders; Brutal Campaign by Islamists in Syria; Understanding the Michael Dunn Verdict; New Docs Show Hillary's Distrust of Media; Developer Pulls Plug on Flappy Bird

Aired February 16, 2014 - 07:00   ET

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CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Heidi Beamer, all the more power to you. She has not been chosen yet, we should point out. But --

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Thank you, Heidi.

Hey, the next hour of NEW DAY SUNDAY starts right now.

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PROTESTERS: The people united will never be defeated.

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BLACKWELL: An emotionally charged case ends with a controversial verdict. After 30 hours of deliberation, the jury in the Michael Dunn trial reaches its decision. Just not the one that was most serious of those charges, murder.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was no winners. Everybody lost something in this.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We intend to retry him, retry Michael Dunn on first degree murder.

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PAUL: Retrial or not, Michael Dunn is headed to prison, possibly for the rest of his life. And for the parents of Jordan Davis, some sort of closure, and a vow to continue the fight for their son.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm remorseful for the killing of my son that it was not just another day at the office.

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PAUL: Good morning, everybody. We're so glad to have your company. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Seven o'clock now on East Coast, 4:00 out West. This is NEW DAY SUNDAY.

And this is what a lot of people were talking about. The prison? Yes. Closure? Maybe. But deadlock on the most serious count facing Michael Dunn means the so-called loud music murder trial is apparently, if you listen to the state attorney there, Angela Corey headed for retrial.

PAUL: That has some experts and other attorneys really surprised. So, remember last night, an attorney in Jacksonville, Florida, convicted Dunn on three counts of attempted second degree murder. Each of those carry the minimum 20-year sentence and they have to run consecutively. So, we're talking 60 years.

Dunn was also convicted of firing on an occupied vehicle, but jurors failed to agree on that big charge everybody was watching -- murder in the killing of Jordan Davis.

BLACKWELL: Yes, Davis was 17 when he was shot to death in the parking lot of that gas station in Jacksonville. Today would have been his 19th birthday.

The lack of a murder conviction sent Davis supporters to the streets. You see him here. This is outside the courthouse, calling for the state attorney ouster.

PAUL: CNN's Alina Machado is live this morning in Jacksonville with more on I guess the partial verdict and the fallout from it.

Hi, Alina.

ALINA MACHADO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Christi.

Yes, the attorney representing the Davis family ask that everyone leave the family alone today as they celebrate what would have been Davis' 19 birthday and as they process the verdict that came down here.

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MACHADO (voice-over): After about 30 hours of deliberations, the jury in the Michael Dunn murder trial returned a partial verdict.

JUDGE: Mr. Dunn you having been convicted of counts two, three and four by a jury.

MACHADO: Guilty on four counts, including three of attempted second degree murder in the 2012 shooting outside of Jacksonville gas station that killed 17-year-old Jordan Davis.

But on the murder charge, no verdict.

JUDGE: Based on the jury's inability to reach a verdict on count one, I will declare that mistried.

MACHADO: Davis' family expressed gratitude but vow to keep fighting. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We will continue to stand and we will continue to await for justice for Jordan.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel this Michael Dunn has a minimum of 20 years on one count and another 20 years on another count and another minimum 20 years on another count. So, he's going to learn that he must be remorseful for the killing of my son that it was not just another day at the office.

MACHADO: During the trial, jurors heard from the three teens who were in the car with Davis the night a confrontation over loud music turned violent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did the driver do with the gun when he grabbed it from the glove compartment?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He cocked it back.

MACHADO: Dunn, himself, took the stand in his own defense.

MICHAEL DUNN, DEFENDANT: I'm looking out the window and I said, you're not going to kill me you (EXPLETIVE DELETED) and I shot.

MACHADO: Surveillance video where you can hear the gunfire --

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MACHADO: -- was requested by the jury during deliberations. Jurors also had several questions, including this one.

JUDGE: Is it possible to not reach a verdict on one count and reach a verdict on other counts?

MACHADO: Suggesting they were having difficulty reaching a unanimous verdict on the murder charge as early as Friday. The tension in the courtroom palpable.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Those 30 hours were probably the most stressful hours of my life. I cannot even imagine what Mr. Dunn was thinking because he was the one that was facing the verdict.

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MACHADO: Angela Corey has said that she has every intention to pursue another trial on that first degree murder charge -- Christi, Victor.

BLACKWELL: All right. Alina Machado for us in Jacksonville -- thank you. And stick around. We'll talk much more about this case and the verdict of what's happening next with the attorneys, Paul Callan and Jose Baez. That's at the bottom of this hour on NEW DAY.

So, the mixed result of the Dunn trial disappointed some people in the courtroom, obviously. There were several expert observers who were I think confused and not too happy about it, as well. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: What I find so appalling is that they could not reach a verdict as to the first count, which is first degree murder.

JOSE BAEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think the defense clearly raised sufficient reasonable doubt as it related to the justifiable use of force.

NANCY GRACE, HLN HOST: Yes, I'm happy Dunn's going away. He's going away and it's a life sentence. But, still, that count one is just hanging there in the air.

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN HOST: Angela Corey, with all due respect, is in deep denial. I mean, when she says we put on everything we possibly could. No they didn't.

BAEZ: He's going to die in prison. Mission accomplished. I don't know what trying the case would do.

GRACE: It's my firm belief if the roles were reversed and a black youth gunned down a 45-year-old white software creator that was unarmed, we wouldn't even be talking. It would be over.

JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Let's not be embarrassed that we all have issues with race. Let's talk about it. Let's come together on this.

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PAUL: And, again, we will have more coming up on this in the next hour and a half, of course, as we continue the conversation. A lot of questions that we need to ask. If you have something you want us to ask some of the experts we have coming on, let us know, tweet us.

BLACKWELL: Yes, we'll pass those questions on.

PAUL: I don't know if you've seen this video yet. Some people just want to sit down and have a meal.

BLACKWELL: Just want to have a cup of coffee.

PAUL: But good heavens, clearing snow from the streets of New York led to this freak accident. Take a look at this.

We've got surveillance video in Queens. You see that snow plow there barreling through. Apparently it was doing so with such force, it threw heavy snow and ice -- look at this -- across the sidewalk into a restaurant, blowing out the store front, knocking over a customer seated inside. This is frightening for them.

BLACKWELL: Yes, the manager of that restaurant said the customer who was blown out of her seat checked out of the hospital. She appears to be OK. And, you know, further north, blizzard warnings issued off the coast of Massachusetts.

Let's go to Jennifer Gray now.

Jennifer, this video from this restaurant. I think people, the most we've ever experienced was maybe, you know, the snow blocking car doors. But go through the window of a restaurant. I think people are surprised. I'm surprised by that, the force of the snow.

JENNIFER GRAY, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Yes. Me, too. I'm very surprised, you know. But we've had a couple of accidents with those snow plows this winter season. We've had a lot of snow and, luckily, no one was injured seriously in that, because that could have been really, really bad.

We are still watching the snow come down in the Northeast. Luckily, it is moving on out off the coast of Maine, northern Maine, pushing into Canada this morning. But we had about 11 inches of snow in Massachusetts. We have a couple little systems that we're going to see coming on through, once moving through and not going to cause much snow at all later today and into Monday.

And then we have another one coming into Midwest. That could cause a little bit of snow, places like Chicago, Minneapolis and your snow totals through Monday, four to eight inches in Minneapolis, three to six in Milwaukee and Chicago could pick up an inch or two. So, nothing major right there.

Here's your good news of the day. We are going to see a shift in the jet stream. You could thank the jet stream and its ride to the north for this warmer air that will start working in mainly to the South, but the north will actually feel it, too, in the coming days.

Atlanta 61 today and 64 tomorrow and then by Tuesday, temperatures will be at 66 degrees. New York City will be at 38 degrees on Tuesday and then in the 40s on Wednesday in D.C. even at 61 degrees Wednesday.

So, guys, things are really starting to change but I was reading some things in the Midwest they're starting to worry about some of that flooding. They had so much snow and temperatures start to warm up and flooding is going to be a concern in places like the Midwest in the coming weeks.

PAUL: Right, right, that's always a concern. Hey, Jennifer Gray, thank you so much.

GRAY: All righty.

BLACKWELL: Still to come on NEW DAY SUNDAY, we'll bring you the very latest from Sochi and who has been helping to boost the U.S. medal counts.

PAUL: Also, President Obama is weighing in over Twitter about Team USA's big victory on the ice.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) PAUL: Rise and shine, Washington. Live pictures from the White House there.

The forecast for all of you waking up in D.C., partly cloudy skies, high of 41 degrees, but just want to say a little hello to all our friends there in the D.C. area.

BLACKWELL: Let's go to another cold and snowy spot, Sochi. The U.S. is now tied with rush Russia for the most Olympic medals. It's day nine of competition.

PAUL: If you were not ready to find out how Team USA got there. Here's your spoiler alert, just so you know, we don't want to blow it for you. Just crank it down for a second, just turn it down just a second.

BLACKWELL: All right. So, here it is, a pair of U.S. skiers brought home the latest precious hardware. Andrew Weibrecht took the silver in the super-G, an emotional Bode Miller also tied for bronze.

PAUL: Yes, he tweeted this after the race. Quote, "Thanks for all the support. Today was one of the most emotional days of my life. I miss my brother."

BLACKWELL: Bode's brother died unexpectedly last winter. He was just 29 years old.

PAUL: We're thinking about him. Congratulations, certainly.

Look, no medal at stake yesterday, but, darn, was it a good game when the U.S. and Russia met in what some are saying an epic Olympic hockey showdown.

BLACKWELL: Now, this looked like Russia clinched victory with a gold in the third period. But the referees disallowed it saying the net moved. So, with the score tied at the end of regulation, the game went into a shootout.

PAUL: Our Rachel Nichols has the call from Sochi.

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RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN SPORTS: Mix in two huge rivals and then meeting on one of the team's home turf, the shadow of 1980s miracle on ice. Plus, Russian President Vladimir Putin from the stands, it's hard to imagine more build up for this game.

And yet the actual game exceeded all of that hype. Afterward, Team USA winger Max Pacioretty told he was breathless as the rest of us as he watched the shootout from the Team USA bench, saying he didn't know whether to look or not look. He said he nearly had a heart attack. But all ended well for the Americans as TJ Oshie scored four times on six tries to steal the game.

T.J. OSHIE, TEAM USA HOCKEY: I was trying to think of what I could do next and keep the goaltender guessing and fortunately I was able to put a couple in there.

PAUL STASTNY, FORWARD, TEAM USA HOCKEY: He's always been a good shootout guy and is creative and has a lot of skill and we weren't surprised. Especially when you score you ride the hot hand.

JAMES VAN RIEMSDYK, FORWARD, TEAM USA HOCKEY: Back in the NHL, we know he's one of the better guys in the league as far as the shootout and know what he's capable of but to go that many times in a row and still have a few tricks up your sleeve, I think it doesn't get in your heard, that's pretty impressive. So, again, I think he did tremendous job.

NICHOLS: Russian television showed Vladimir Putin nodding his head in approval several times during the shootout. But after the U.S. won, well, no more cutaways of Putin.

But, hey, if it's not one world leader, it's the other. Shortly after the game, Barack Obama tweeted his congratulations, especially praising Oshie. Oshie was amazed to hear that, saying he really prefers to just stay under the radar. Of course, after this performance, that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.

For CNN, I'm Rachel Nichols in Sochi.

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BLACKWELL: All right. Thank you, Rachel.

That tweet that Rachel was talking about from President Obama. Here's what it said. He tweeted, "Congratulations or congrats to T.J. Oshie and the U.S. men's hockey team on a huge win. Never stop believing in miracles with the #GoTeamUSA." And you see his initials there, B.O. Meaning that he tweeted that himself.

You know, the other big sporting event closer to home, the NBA all-star slam dunk competition. Despite a sensational slam by Washington Wizard player John Wall, the game's new rules got mixed reviews from fans. No longer player versus player, it's now conference versus conference, for East versus West.

For the majority of the night, a lot of complaints about the format on social media. But Wall did his best to save the competition with this insane dunk. Double pump reverse dunk after jumping over and snatching the ball from the Warriors mascot. Instead of the slam dunk champion, Wall was as of this year known as the dunker of the night, which seems like a much smaller accomplishment.

PAUL: Accomplishment, doesn't it?

BLACKWELL: Yes. You're good for this night, but tomorrow, sir, you're back to just watching the Wizards.

PAUL: Yes, exactly.

You can watch the NBA all-star game on our sister network TNT. It starts at 7:00 p.m. Eastern. Pregame coverage includes a fascinating sit-down interview between former all-star Charles Barkley and President Obama. So good, you don't want to miss it.

BLACKWELL: All right. Up next on NEW DAY SUNDAY, we're going to Beirut to speak with Arwa Damon. A live exclusive on Syria.

Stay with us.

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PAUL: Twenty-one minutes past the hour right now.

And, you know, President Obama hosts a key Middle Eastern ally. That was Jordan's King Abdullah, at a private residence. And they were talking about the humanitarian crisis in Syria.

Now, Jordan has accepted more than 500,000 Syrian refugees and President Obama said he is going to seek $1 billion in loan guarantees for Jordan. The White House official also said Russia has a critical role to play here in Syria and, quote, "cannot have it both ways."

BLACKWELL: Syria's deadly civil war has gone from rebels fighting Syria troops to rebels fighting rebels. So, in that respect, it's now a war within a war.

PAUL: Right. And Islamic fundamentalists are trying to gain some ground here, waging this vicious campaign of brutality and fear.

We're getting an exclusive look here from CNN's Arwa Damon who takes us inside one Syrian town for a look at those atrocities.

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ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We cross from Turkey into Northern Syria escorted by armed rebels. For months, these lands were under the brutal and merciless control of ISIS, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. As we drive towards the town of Adana, Abu Jaffar (ph) tells us -- ISIS came in and took over the area and called it their Islamic state.

(on camera): This was the main ISIS checkpoint leading into Adana and as part of their terror tactics, eyewitnesses were telling us that they would leave some of the bodies of the people they executed lining the checkpoints so that every single car coming through will be forced to slow down and could not ignore that brutal message.

(voice-over): Across from it, the courthouse. Executions took place out front, freshly dug up dirt marks the graves of some of the victims.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are two corpses over there. Two corpses here and there are some corpse near the north end, some corpse.

DAMON: Anyone who dared defy them paid a price. Even smoking was banned. (on camera): This was another of the ISIS headquarters and everything here, all of the walls were painted black. You can see that they've just been freshly painted over in white. And when ISIS was under control of Adana, at a time like this and it is Friday and it is prayer time, none of these people would have been able to be out on the street. They would have forced the markets to close.

(voice-over): Many here don't want their identities revealed or even to be seen talking to us. ISIS may no longer be in control, but many fear they could come back.

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BLACKWELL: Arwa Damon joins us now from neighboring Beirut.

A powerful piece, Arwa. How likely is it that the rebels will be able to keep the fundamentalists out of the city and government troops also? I mean, now this war within a war.

DAMON: It's going to be incredibly difficult because they are spread out fairly thin, especially given that they are now fighting on multiple front lines. What we're seeing is ISIS trying to consolidate its forces and its fighters in certain area where they do have strongholds.

But people we were speaking to off camera expressing that very same concern, that ISIS could, in fact, return -- especially give on the sheer brutality they're using to control the population. These are very understandable concerns that so many people have.

Rebel fighters, themselves, telling us how they had to re- liberate Adana. They initially went in and captured it from American troops and now, of course, they had to recapture from ISIS itself.

And many people will tell you that this is a byproduct of the fact that the international community has been unable to bring about real resolution to what is happening in Syria. Organizations like ISIS are very capable. They have experience fighting in Iraq. They have foreign fighters that are flowing across the borders, coming in to join their ranks.

And their main aim is not necessarily bringing down the Assad regime, but it is to try to establish some sort of an Islamic state, which is not what other rebel fighters want to see taking place in Syria.

PAUL: All righty. Arwa Damon, great report. Thank you so much for bringing it to us. We appreciate it.

Four convictions could mean 75 years in prison for Michael Dunn. So, why are prosecutors planning a retrial? The full story from Jacksonville, Florida, next.

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PAUL: Twenty-nine minutes past the hour. Right now, I hope you're on time on a Sunday morning. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell.

Let's start with five things you need to know for your NEW DAY.

PAUL: Number one, 60 years in prison. That's the anticipated sentence for the Florida man convicted man yesterday in the so-called loud music murder trial. Michael Dunn was found guilty of three counts of attempted second degree murder. Jurors deadlock, though, on the sole count of murder, count one. And prosecutors vow that they will try Dunn again.

BLACKWELL: Up next, the pair of skiers who are missing after an avalanche in Lake County, Colorado. Emergency management officials say rescuers will start searching the mountains in just about an hour or two, as soon as day breaks. The avalanche happened yesterday evening. Three other skiers are hospitalized with broken bones, one with a collapsed lung.

PAUL: No. 3, a man's body was found in an airplane wheel well at Washington's Dulles Airport. This happened yesterday. But local reports say the South African Airways plane started in Johannesburg, stopped in Senegal before arriving in the U.S. and investigators have not yet identified the man; nor have they determined how he died.

BLACKWELL: No. 4, the son of iconic Muppet's founder Jim Henson has died. According to the family company, John Henson suffered a massive, sudden heart attack. That happened on Friday while he was home with one of his daughters. Now, Henson was best known as a businessman and the voice behind the Muppets ogre character Sweetums. Henson was 48 years old.

PAUL: All righty. No. 5, people, it's time to buy another Powerball ticket.

BLACKWELL: Put a few dollars together.

PAUL: Maybe a few dozen. Never know. Officials with the multi- state lottery said nobody won last night's drawing worth $330 million, which means Wednesday's jackpot is estimated at $400 million. And depending on how many tickets are sold, you know that it could get even bigger.

BLACKWELL: Five men, seven women, they spent 30 hours trying to reach verdicts in the latest trial to test the self -- the limits, rather, of self-defense. In the end, they came up short, and in the words of the defendants' lawyer, everybody lost something.

PAUL: Yes, prosecutors basically failed to get a murder conviction, which is what everybody was watching for. But Michael Dunn still faces three consecutive 20-year terms for attempted murder.

And so we want to bring our lawyers into this: defense attorney and CNN legal analyst Paul Callan in New York; in Miami we have defense attorney Jose Baez.

Gentlemen, I want to thank both of you so much for being here.

Paul, let me start with you. I know you have a theory as to how Dunn could be found guilty on the attempted murder of Jordan Davis's friends, but not of murdering Jordan Davis, which I think is the thing people are having such a hard time wrapping their heads around. How did this happen?

PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: You know, Christi, people are stunned by this verdict, and I think they're particularly surprised by the finding that he did -- that Dunn acted in self-defense, presumably, in shooting and killing Jordan Davis, but how could he be guilty of attempted murder if that's the case?

Well, remember there were two volleys of shots. Pop, pop, pop. Four shots first. Those presumably were the shots that were fired at Jordan Davis. Now, the jury hung on those counts.

The other attempted murder counts had to do with the three other young men, teenagers who were in the vehicle. He was charged with attempted murder on each of those counts.

Now, the jury, I believe, found guilt on those counts because the vehicle was fleeing at that point in time. He wasn't acting in self- defense. He had no reason to be using that force. So, I think that's why what appears on its face to be a strange verdict is actually probably pretty logical with respect to these facts.

BLACKWELL: So, Jose, with the three counts of second-degree attempted murder, there's 20 each that have to run consecutively. So that's 60 years minimum. Fifteen for the additional of firing into the cars, so 75 years in prison. Michael Dunn is going to die in prison.

Are you surprised prosecutors are already announced they're going to try again to convict him on first-degree murder? What's the point if the man's going to die in prison?

JOSE BAEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Fiscally, I don't -- I don't know what the point is.

However, if you look at the situation, they've got three counts that are one right after the other. He's going to die in prison. And the main question is, what was the split? How many jurors were in favor to acquit? How many were in favor to convict? We really don't know that answer yet, and until you get that, I think it's a bit premature to say what mistakes did the prosecution make during this time that they can correct the second time. So the likelihood of a conviction, those are things that they need to consider. But aside from that, I really think it's a premature decision.

PAUL: You know, he brings up a good point, Paul. A lot of people are thinking that the fact that Dunn testified might have been a game changer here. I had a lot of people -- I was covering it when it was happening -- on Twitter and some of them were saying, "I want to hate this guy. But I'm finding myself believing him." What do you -- what do you make of that? Did you find any part of what he had to say believable? Because his girlfriend, his fiancee still, I think on one of the major parts that's hard for people to understand, was completely -- had a completely different story. She said, "He never told me about a gun. That he saw a gun in his car."

CALLAN: You know, we're all stunned by this verdict, and I think even people who have been involved in a lot of murder cases, as I have through my career, I was quite surprised by the verdict.

Particularly, Christi, the point that you raise. You know, after firing these shots, the fiancee gets in his car. They go to a bed and breakfast where they order pizza and spend the night like nothing happened. But she testifies he never said anything about seeing a gun in Jordan Davis's car.

Now, wouldn't that be the only thing you're talking about? "They pulled a gun on me. They tried to kill me"? You'd be obsessed with talking about it. She says he never raised it. So, you know, it was really hard to believe that the jury -- that any of the jurors might accept the self-defense claim.

But now we get to your point about how did he do on the witness stand. And I think Jose would agree with me on this, that it's rare that you put a defendant on the stand in a murder case, especially a murder case that goes in weak, but sometimes you do, because you think he's going to do well. And he did very well on the stand.

And, you know, they did something subtle that I thought was very, very helpful. They put him in a sweater, which softened his look and made him look like sort of a nice, ordinary person. And he came across as soft and kind of likable, as opposed to, you know, someone with a hair temper who would just open fire and kill a teenage boy. And obviously, he didn't convince all the jury, but he convinced enough that this was a hung jury on that critical first-degree murder count.

BLACKWELL: Jose, you mentioned that it's premature for the state to say that it's going to retry Dunn on the first-degree murder charge, partially because they haven't identified any mistakes that the state has made with its case. Have you identified any mistakes in the state's case?

BAEZ: Well, here -- this kind of goes back to what Paul was saying. I'm not surprised by the verdict, and that's because we have such a terrible time being able to cover these trials that there are things you see in the courtroom that the camera does not catch. And that the camera does not see. And that is the subtle nuances of when a lawyer makes a point that the jury is able to identify with. The rapport that the -- that some of the witnesses have with the jury or with the lawyers. There's so many different little things that our -- the subtle acts of persuasion that occur in the middle of a trial that the camera just simply will not pick up.

So, I don't know if the prosecution made any mistakes here. I think they will, if they're truly self-evaluating, will be able to sit back and make that decision. But to make it right off the bat like that, I think was really more a play for the cameras than it was anything. Because simply not knowing what the split was should tell you that they're making this decision based on emotion and not something that they actually thought through, whether they can actually accomplish.

BLACKWELL: All right. We'll see if it actually happens. Jose Baez, Paul Callan, thank you both for joining us this morning.

CALLAN: Thank you, Victor.

BLACKWELL: Thank you.

PAUL: Thanks, gentlemen.

Still to come on NEW DAY, Hillary Clinton versus the press. New documents reveal a complicated relationship. We'll have the details for you, next.

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BLACKWELL: Eleanor Roosevelt is the top-ranked first lady in history. Now, that's according to a poll of historians and scholars done by Sienna College and C-SPAN.

Let's get out the list of the top five. Abigail Adams, Jackie Kennedy, Dolly Madison and, in her first appearance on the list, Michelle Obama came in at No. 5. She knocked out Hillary Clinton from that top five list.

PAUL: Speaking of that family, Chelsea Clinton takes the stage in Las Vegas. The former first daughter is a keynote speaker at a conference for the Human Rights Campaign. This event, called Time to Thrive, focuses on promoting safety, inclusion and well-being for gay youth. Clinton currently serves as vice chair of the Clinton Foundation.

BLACKWELL: I know we're getting a few new glimpses into Hillary Clinton's love/hate relationship with the news media, as certainly, she's weighing the possible 2016 presidential bid.

PAUL: CNN has pored over previously unseen documents that really shed some new light on Clinton's response to negative coverage when she was first lady. Here's Brianna Keilar.

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HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: One of the best pieces of advice that I've ever heard from anyone is Eleanor Roosevelt in the 1920s, who said that, you know, women in politics or in public roles should grow skin like a rhinoceros.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hillary Clinton offered some of her own leadership advice to women this week at a conference in New York City. H. CLINTON: There's that, you know, old saying that your critics can be your best friends if you listen to them and learn from them, but don't get dragged down by them.

WILLIAM REHNQUIST, FORMER CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT: Governor, you ready to take the oath?

BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I am.

KEILAR: Her comments come as new documents revealed Clinton has held a great distrust of the media from before her time as first lady. Clinton calls the press "complete hypocrites," according to diary entries from her close confident, Diane Blair. "They say they want the truth, want power to be transparent, but, in fact, they prefer backstage manipulation of Barbara Bush, Nancy Reagan, Bess Truman, Roslyn Carter," Blair recounts Clinton saying.

Carl Bernstein wrote a biography of Hillary Clinton. Shortly after her husband's 1992 win, Hillary received this advice about dealing with reporters from first lady Barbara Bush.

CARL BERNSTEIN, JOURNALIST/AUTHOR: "Be aware of this crowd. You don't want to have anything to do with them. And if you are going to be quoted, say it loud and clear and make sure you say it damn loud," that they're not to be trusted.

And Hillary said to Barbara Bush, "I've already had some experience with that."

KEILAR: In the White House, the Clintons squared off against the press over the firing of White House travel office employees, investigations into White House counsel Vince foster's suicide. The list went on.

BERNSTEIN: The Clintons felt they were being attacked over health care, over this so-called scandal in Whitewater and, in fact, they really hadn't done anything wrong in Whitewater, but they sure had handled it badly. And once again, this pattern of non-candor was established.

KEILAR: Especially for Hillary Clinton, who was more guarded than her husband. In January 1995, after two years in the White House, she told her friend that she did not know how history could be written on Bill Clinton's presidency with media reports being so wrong. Diane Blair wrote, "She said there was hardly a news story that she couldn't totally refute."

Brianna Keilar, CNN, Washington.

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BLACKWELL: Let's check in now with CNN's John King in Washington for a look at what's coming up this morning on "INSIDE POLITICS."

Morning, John.

JOHN KING, HOST, "INSIDE POLITICS': Good morning, guys.

A lively conversation about the week's politics just ahead on "INSIDE POLITICS" today. Republicans surrender to the White House on the debt ceiling and, in the process, reveal a huge split within the GOP. We'll look at the impact on the 2014 midterms and beyond.

And what's old is new again with Hillary Clinton. Will her past, and notes about it, hurt a potential 2016 White House run? We'll go "INSIDE POLITICS" at the bottom of the hour -- Christi and Victor.

PAUL: All righty. Hey, John, thank you so much.

Again, you can catch "INSIDE POLITICS" with John King, coming up this morning, 8:30 Eastern right here on CNN.

BLACKWELL: All right. Turning to tech, it's an end of an era for fans of the game Flappy Bird.

PAUL: You're losing your Flappy Bird.

BLACKWELL: The developer pulled the plug on the app this week, and now there's growing backlash.

Up next, why the creator decided to clip the birds' wings.

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PAUL: We hope you're happy today.

The crowd-funding site Kickstarter is urging its users to change their password after announcing it's been hacked. In a blog post company CEO said users' personal information had been stolen, but credit card information was secure. Now the site says it was told about the hack by law enforcement and immediately worked to close that breach.

BLACKWELL: If you're still mourning the loss of the game Flappy Bird, there's a silver lining. The users who downloaded the app before the developer pulled the plug can still play the game on their device.

PAUL: You know, a lot of people are wondering, why did you yank the game in the first place? We want to bring in the host of "TECH BYTES," Brett Larson in New York.

Brett, good to see you.

BRETT LARSON, HOST, "TECH BYTES": Thanks for having me this morning.

PAUL: So as we understand, and rumor has it Nintendo ordered the game's creator to take down Flappy Bird because it was too similar to the Mario games, right?

LARSON: Exactly.

PAUL: Now, Flappy Bird saying no, that is not the case; it has nothing to do with legal. What is it?

LARSON: The developer yanked the game. Super successful game. The guy was making $50,000 a day in advertising revenue.

PAUL: Gosh.

LARSON: Pulls the game off. Anyone who's played it will recognize those green pipes look awfully similar to the Super Mario Brothers game.

But the developer says he took it down, because the game was too addictive, that people were playing it too much, and he felt, you know, it was just this scourge on the population of playing this game, that -- and I've played it. I have it installed on my phone, so I can continue to play it to my heart's contempt.

It is very addictive when you start playing it. Because you can see, it's so simple, but then the bird dies and you've got to start over. So I don't know how people get to 9,999 on their points, but let me tell you. I can't get past the second -- the second thing.

And it's interesting to see what's happened. We've heard reports that they're starting petitions on the WhiteHouse.gov...

BLACKWELL: Oh, gosh.

LARSON: ... to bring the game back. And, of course, then there's also all of these games that have popped up that are just carbon copies of Flappy Bird, but it's still -- it's not the same thing. It's like New Coke. It's just not -- it doesn't taste the same.

BLACKWELL: New Coke went nowhere. It went nowhere.

PAUL: New Coke is now old...

BLACKWELL: Gone Coke.

PAUL: Gone, yes.

BLACKWELL: So there were these phones that people could buy pre- programmed with the game, that you could buy on eBay.

LARSON: Right.

BLACKWELL: What happened with those?

LARSON: EBay yanked down a lot of these bids. And we saw these phones were getting, like, $100,000 bids from people just to get Flappy Birds. And I thought, "Well, I should -- I mean, I could get a down payment on a house if I just sell my cell phone."

There's some technical ramifications on this. You may not necessarily get the phone with Flappy Birds on it, because once you put on all your user data, a lot of times those phones need to be reset, and in doing so you would have ended up losing the game. Wasted money.

PAUL: All righty. Let's talk about Twitter, shall we? Because we hear changes are coming.

LARSON: Yes.

PAUL: People don't like change so much.

BLACKWELL: Messing with Twitter.

PAUL: Facebook has done it several times, and Facebook has been criticized for it. So what's going to happen? Who's affected?

LARSON: Right. It's this -- it's a slow rollout here. It's popped up. It happened to a gentleman who writes for Mashable, so, of course, it immediately got noticed, that they're changing the way that your profile page looks.

Now when you go to Twitter, you know, it's got you kind of front and center and then a list of tweets down the -- down the page. In this instance it looks more like your Facebook time line, where your picture is off to the side, and your tweets actually show up in boxes. It's very much like an online magazine format.

It looks great, and it definitely embraces the fact that Twitter is more than just tweets and is now a lot more photos and video. And with the photos and video this layout actually makes a lot more sense, so I definitely see this as something they're probably going to roll out to more users as the months go on.

PAUL: OK.

LARSON: It's a good.

BLACKWELL: With the cell phones, depending on where you are, you can shop for a pretty good deal. T-Mobile.

LARSON: Yes.

BLACKWELL: What kind of incentives are people offering now? And why now? Why this push?

LARSON: Why has it taken so long?

BLACKWELL: Yes.

LARSON: We have four national carriers, and they're still fighting with each other. It's interesting.

T-Mobile is definitely trying to break the trend here. They're going against the grain. You know, we're not going to make you sign a contract. We'll pay your early termination fee if you decide to switch. And it's interesting to watch, because they are, on a national scale, they're the smallest of the four, Sprint, AT&T and Verizon, Verizon being the largest. What's been interesting to watch is AT&T was the first to kind of shake a little bit and say, "Oh, you're going to pay early termination fees to steal our customers? We're going to do the exact opposite."

But what T-Mobile is really trying to push is unlimited data, which a lot of people, now that we've got our iPhone 5s and our Android devices that are really data hungry, are finding these data caps that the cellular providers are giving us, they just don't work anymore. We want unlimited data. We want that unlimited access like we have when we're home.

Verizon finally just Thursday said, "All right, fine. We'll lower the prices just a little bit, and we'll throw in some extra data for you." They're still toeing the line, though. You still have to have a contract. It's still more expensive than anyone else. They're still definitely resting on their laurels of the fact that they are the largest and most preferred carrier nationwide in most consumer surveys. So they've still got that going for them.

But if you are not happy with your service or you feel like you're paying too much, now is a great time to start shopping around.

PAUL: Good to know. All righty.

Brett Larson, good to see you today. Thanks.

LARSON: Great to see you guys, too. Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Coming up in the next hour of NEW DAY, the Florida man who killed a teenager who did not want to turn his music down may spend the rest of his life in prison.

PAUL: That's even without a murder conviction or any verdict at all on the most serious charge. That's straight ahead. Stay put.

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BLACKWELL: Time now for "The Good Stuff," and you want to check out a 9-year-old boy from Kansas. He's getting a new hand, thanks to a 3-D printer.

PAUL: This is amazing. Matthew Shields is his name. He was born with only a thumb on his right hand. It was never a problem, though, until this year, when he apparently started getting picked on at school.

BLACKWELL: And that's when his mom stepped in. She found a gadget online called the robo hand. It's a mechanical device based on 3-D blueprints.

PAUL: So a family friend helped get the device up and running, and Matthew can now write. He can draw. He's even able to high five. Look at him here, and we should mention that his classmates think his new robo hand is pretty cool.

BLACKWELL: It is pretty cool. PAUL: And they should.

BLACKWELL: All right. "Must See Moment" today. Look up in the sky. You know, there's a plane. No bird. Instead a Go Pro camera. According to the person who posted this video on YouTube -- look at this...

PAUL: Oh, my God.

BLACKWELL: ... the camera dropped out of the sky, and look at this guy. It plunged right into the middle of a pig pen. Wow.

PAUL: Oh, look at that guy. He's a little curious, obviously. OK. Let's show it to you again, so you can see.

It's in the air there, people. But that little pig, you're going to see the snout coming at you here as this falls. This is wild, isn't it? And he's going to try to eat it. There he goes. Because why not? He's a pig.

So the two takeaways here. Go Pros are incredibly durable, and pigs truly will eat just about anything you give them.

BLACKWELL: Do you think it's real? It looks real.

PAUL: It looks like it. I don't know.

BLACKWELL: I don't know. It is funny, I give you that.

PAUL: We could be fools again, Victor.

BLACKWELL: Maybe.

PAUL: We could be fools. But you know what? It was funny, and I hope it made you smile this morning. Thank you for being with us.

BLACKWELL: The next hour of your NEW DAY starts now.