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Five U.S. Soldiers Killed in Afghanistan; Shocking Background of Nevada Shooters; Increase in Underage Migrants Overwhelm Border Agents; Hard Questions for Hillary Clinton

Aired June 10, 2014 - 08:00   ET



CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. Welcome to NEW DAY. It's Tuesday, June 10th, 8:00 in the East. Kate is off. I am joined by my friend.

It is great to have you here.


CUOMO: Thank you for helping us out.

And we have breaking news for you overnight. Friendly fire has taken the lives of five American troops in Afghanistan. A U.S. official tells CNN a jet fired on American troops on the ground after they called in help taking on the Taliban. This is the deadliest day in months for U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

Let's get to CNN's Barbara Starr at the Pentagon with the latest.

Barbara, what do we know?


The details are still sketchy. It is all under investigation, but officials are telling us to the best of their understanding right now, U.S. troops on the ground in southern Afghanistan with afghan forces on a security mission. They came into contact with enemy forces. They called for air support. There was a B-1 bomber overhead.

They are looking at the possibility now when that B-1 bomber launched an air strike it incorrectly, inadvertently, of course, hit the troops on the ground. Five killed. We are getting no word on how many may have been wounded.

Of course, the deadliest incident of friendly fire in some time now. One of the deadliest days in Afghanistan and a very long time. For many, you know, people noticed the president is winding up the war, troops are going home.

But for five American military families this tragedy strikes so deep -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: Our hearts and thoughts, of course, with their families and loved one this morning.

Barbara, thank you very much for that update.

Also today, some pretty stunning revelations about that couple who took the lives of those two police officers and a Wal-Mart shopper in Las Vegas. Here's what we know -- that couple here had a history of sentiment against law enforcement. They were prominent faces during the conflict at Cliven Bundy's ranch until they were sent packing for apparently being too radical.

Dan Simon, let's go to you, live in Las Vegas with more. Good morning.


Well, these people were very overt in expressing their beliefs. They expressed them to neighbors, on their Facebook pages. But apparently, no one thought they would carry out this deadly rampage.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are going to Vegas, baby.

SIMON (voice-over): They moved here about six months ago from Indiana. Documenting their journey from the road.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're approaching Indianapolis and it's our last time going through this awful city, hopefully.

SIMON: The couple made lots of videos, a window perhaps into their twisted world.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love you so much, baby!

SIMON: The 31-year-old Jared Miller declaring his love for his 22- year-old wife before he was to head to jail. He had a lengthy rap sheet that included a felony for stealing cars.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm, like, brag about you in jail! Tell you about how awesome you are.

SIMON: Nevada would certainly not be a fresh start. They were attracted to the anti-government, anti-law enforcement rhetoric of rancher, Clyde Bundy. Jerad Miller even appearing at a local newscast.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel sorry for any federal agents that want to push us around or anything like that. I really don't want violence toward them but if they're going to come and bring violence to us if that is the language they want to speak, we'll learn it.

SIMON: But, apparently, the Millers were too radical for the group, which included state militia. They were as ostracized, told to go home according to Bundy's son. The message was not well-received.

Jared Miller writing, "We sold everything we had to buy supplies and quit our jobs to be there 24/7. How dare you ask for help and shut us dedicated patriots!"

Whether the Bundy movement or being shunned from it sparked some kind of deep anger and fueled a desire to kill police officers isn't known. Authorities say they are investigating all aspects of Miller's past.

A past that Amanda's father Todd Woodruff is all too familiar with. In an interview with the "L.A. Times," says, quote, "I begged her not to marry him and move to Las Vegas. He was into this patriot nation and conspiracy theory stuff and the whole world was just against him. And he was just, he was just nuts."


SIMON: And we're learning more about that additional victim at the Wal-Mart, Joseph Wilcox. He was carrying a concealed weapon. He sees what's going on, but he doesn't realize that Miller has a wife who's watching what he's doing, and she shoots him before he can do anything -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right. Dan, thank you for following that story for us. It's important to track the bigger ideas going on there.

Now, another story we want to tell you about deserves our attention very much. Undocumented kids flooding across the southern border by the thousands. Authorities are overwhelmed. They have no idea what to do with them.

Remember, these kids are as young as 3, 6 months old. They're moved into holding centers in Arizona after facilities in Texas got too full. The conditions they're being held in are described as dire.

So why are so many kids, many alone, risking everything to enter? What can be done to help them? The questions we face this morning.

Joining us to help answer them, the mayor of Nogales, Arizona, Arturo Garino.

Mayor, thank you very much for joining us.

This is a different type of immigration situation, even if it's illegal, even if it's wrong. These are kids. Many of them are very young.

What can you tell us about the conditions where they're being held?

MAYOR ARTURO GARINO, NOGALES, ARIZONA: Well, first of all, thank you very much for having me, and the conditions are a lot better than expected.

I visited the center yesterday, and they have -- they've already created cafeterias for them inside. They've also created an area for medical assistance, an area for telephone banks, computer banks for the processing of the children.

Yes, there's quite a few of them right now. Anywhere from 800 to 900 of them, but what I was told by border patrol is that it's basically a transition center here in Nogales, and what they're going to be doing could take anywhere from four to five days per child. There's a rotation of about 200 to 300 daily after they process them, they're being sent to other locations.

We're trying to locate the parents of the children so they can be reunited with them in the United States. The three consulates, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras, they can communicate with them.

I looked at everything, because I was concerned. I'm very comfortable. Very comfortable with what I saw.

CUOMO: Very comfortable.

What are your concerns going forward here? I mean, how are they going to find families in these other countries? That can't be easy. How long will they be kept in a situation that's called transitional, and then what happens when you can't find someone back home who will take them back? What do you do with these kids?

GARINO: Well, at this point, the Nogales area, when brought here, there are three different locations within the United States. California, Texas and I believe Oklahoma, where they're going to be sent to, and if they don't find somebody, most likely they will get deported back to their point of origin.

So, right now, what's happening is something that has never happened. Especially not in Nogales or the state of Arizona, and as you know, these children are not crossing through our borders here in Arizona. They're coming through Texas, and the process -- Arizona's basically helping process the system.

CUOMO: So the best case scenario for these kids is that they just get sent back to their country of origin, and you'll let them sort them out?

GARINO: Well, you know, I guess. You know, I've asked some questions, and almost nobody can really answer what was the reason for them to be here. Is it immigration reform? Is it, you know, some type of political issues in their country? Or is it that they want to come be with their parents?

There's a lot of different ideas floating out there that, why this is happening, but this has never -- had never been seen to this -- to this level, and especially with children.

This is the concern that we have as citizens here in Nogales. That's why we even started Friday a clothing drive to assist border patrol, because what these children have, what they're wearing is the only thing that they have with them in their possession.

So, we have gone -- tried to get the humanitarian aspect of this as citizens to help border pat patrol, because they're great partners of us here in Arizona and we work closely with them.

CUOMO: Right. To be honest, Mr. Mayor, that's why we're having you on. This is not your fault. You're not here to be blamed for a creation you created.

But I have to tell you, there's a lot of concern about how you're going to manage this situation. I know that Governor Brewer has been very critical of President Obama for the deferred action for childhood arrivals program, that somehow incentivized people to send their kids here, because the thought is that the U.S. will be lenient on kids.

Is that what you think led to a little change in disposition here, accounting for this influx?

GARINO: Well, yes, that could be it, but, you know, one of the things that I can say is that nobody from the governor's office has been here. None of the congressmen, no senators from the federal level have been here in Nogales. Most of this is being managed by us here at the city, and some state representatives, and representatives senator, and two representatives from the district were here in the past few days.

But we -- we have to find ways of how to manage this, and if it gets to a point, because they're saying that it could be anywhere from all of the summer or up to September that this transitioning is going to be going through in Nogales.

If there need be, we're going to have to reach out to some of the federal officials to see what we can do to help this out or to solve this issue, but I think the point of origin is where they need to ask and find out what is happening? Why is this happening? Why are they coming here?

Is it because of the Obama issue, or -- but we have this with us right now and what we need to do is solve the problem, not create a problem. So, we have it with us. So, we're going to have to work on it.

CUOMO: Listen, I hear you, Mr. Mayor. And you make a strong point that a lot of these lawmakers who are arguing about this haven't visited you in Nogales. They're not on the ground to help and that's what you need most. Please, keep in touch with us, we'll check in because this could be months.

This isn't Mexico. You know, the Central American countries, it's not as easy for proximity and policy to repatriate, to send them back. They could be there a while and these are kids, not adults. They're going to have specific needs.

Let us know how to help and to keep the word out, Mr. Mayor. Thank you for joining us.

GARINO: Thank you very much, and we will be trying very hard to help out and, like I said, this is more humanitarian than anything for our citizens here in Nogales, and we are concerned with this. So, let's just hope that they're treated as well as they're being treated here right now, in the other locations that they're going to while they find their parents.

CUOMO: Mr. Mayor, you're touching on the right issue, too. They're going to be moved. Who knows what happens next? Thank you very much for joining us and, again, we'll check in with you. Thank you for being with us on NEW DAY.

GARINO: Thank you.

CUOMO: You know, Mick, we argue an immigration, rights and wrongs but this is a really bad situation. These kids could be there for months. Who knows if you find their families? Mexico creates a lot of advantages for us policy-wise that we don't have with these other countries. We're going to have to stay on it for sure.

MICHAEL PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: I remember, some of them are as 10 years old, Chris. I mean, that's a real issue for sure.

We'll be watching the story. Thanks.

Let's get a look at your headlines right now. And we begin with news breaking this morning. Iraq's prime minister is asking for international help now and demanding that parliament declare a state of emergency after militants took over Mosul, Iraq's second largest city. Hundreds of men equipped with rocked propelled grenades overtaking provincial offices there.

The Iraqi government has been battling militants for months now in quite a terror fight.

Another attack overnight at the busiest airport in Pakistan. The Pakistani Taliban taking aim at Karachi's international airport for the second time in two days, saying the violence will continue as retribution for the government's shelling of its fighters. Today's attack comes just a day after 36 people were killed stormed when militants stormed the airport's cargo area.

And breaking overnight, basketball news again -- Donald Sterling saying, no deal. According to multiple media reports, the L.A. Clippers owner is withdrawing his consent for the sale of the team and will go ahead with a $1 billion lawsuit against the NBA. This after the league refused to lift Sterling's lifetime ban, or rescind a $2.5 million fine for his racist comments.

You kind of have to watch the bouncing ball, pun intended on this story, because it seems quiet, and then another development. Quiet, and then another development. So, this is the latest on this ongoing saga.

BALDWIN: So, it continues, just when we thought it was over. Nope.

CUOMO: Delaying the inevitable.

PEREIRA: Yes, what Chris says.

BALDWIN: All right. Coming up here next on NEW DAY, Hillary Clinton under fire. She is taking heat for saying she and her husband were, to quote her, broke, when they left the White House. Is her potential presidential campaign suddenly off message as her book goes on sale?

Take a live look outside with me there in New York. Hundreds are already in line to get a chance to say hello, to buy their copy. We'll discuss that, coming up next.

CUOMO: Look at this. Video, comes from a college professor who took a nasty fall, had to climb his way out. How did he do it? How did he get out? First national TV interview, coming up.


BALDWIN: All right. Here we go. Welcome back to NEW DAY. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

This morning, today is the day, Hillary Clinton's book officially hit store shelves as she tries to clarify her work, her comments about being dead broke.

Clinton kicked off his book tour with his new interview dealing with both personal and political issues.

So, let's bring them back in for morning number two, CNN political commentators: Paul Begala, Democratic strategist and a senior adviser to the PAC Priorities USA Action, and Ana Navarro is a Republican strategist, and was national Hispanic chair for the 2012 Huntsman campaign.

Good morning once again. And now, we have actual interviews to chew on. First, we're going to run through a couple different sound bites. First, this whole, shall we call it the first gaffe of potential Hillary campaign 2016? Who knows?

But this is the original sound bite when she was sitting down and talking to Diane Sawyer, followed up with clarification of those remarks this morning on "Good Morning America". Take a look.


HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: We came out of the White House not only dead broke but in debt. We had no money when we got there and we struggled to piece together the resources for mortgages for houses, for Chelsea's education. You know, it was not easy.

Let me just clarify that I fully appreciate how hard life is for so many Americans today. It's an issue that I've worked on and cared about my entire adult life. Bill and I were obviously blessed. We worked hard for everything we got in our lives, and we have continued to work hard.


BALDWIN: Paul Begala, first at-bat here. Listen, we all know that very wealthy people run for office especially potentially president, but, dead broke? Doesn't that show she's a little rusty?

PAUL BEGALA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, it's simply a statement of fact. It shows that she hasn't re-transitioned back into a politician. She was talking like a human being.

They were $12 million in debt. They had all of these right wing investigations. They had to hire lawyers. So, that's a statement of fact. Now, here's the political point where she got to this morning, where she kind of modified it or clarified it, as she said.

The problem with being rich is, if you are seen as supporting policies that will help the rich. We Democrats, oddly, have a great tradition of very wealthy leaders, Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy. That's not the problem.

The problem is, you can tie it up to saying that you have policies that are for the rich, that's what hurt Mitt Romney. Americans like rich people. We always want to reward and honor success. What croaked Romney, he was also for policies that would help the rich. So, what Hillary says is not nearly as important as what she said about yours. That's what we'll see if she runs.

BALDWIN: Ana, what about Paul's point? Reminds us of comments Romney made. You're sort of shaking your head. Paul says, ah, she was just being real. What do you say?

ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: It did remind me of some of those comments. In fact, I was very reminded of the comments Ann Romney said when she said they were eating tuna fish in college to get by and she got huge attacks for that. I think it is a problem.

A couple months ago, she was telling us she'd never driven a car in 20 years. And so, I think she does have a relatability problem.

The truth of the matter is she has been jetting around, around the world, talking lofty issues with international leaders, which is very differ than doing retail politics. And she is going to put her foot in her mouth every now and then, and we've seen it, and I do think it is about being politically rusty, which is why I go back to the point that she needs the practice of a primary, because she's going to continue saying these things.

I'm glad she clarified it today because what she should not do, double down on, oh, this is what I meant, and, yes, I was in debt and yes, I was broke.

BALDWIN: Sure, sure.

NAVARRO: She left the White House with an $8 million book contract. That she got as $3 million advance after leaving the White House.

When you leave the White House with Bill Clinton as your White House, you leave the White House -- OK, she might have been in dead but had a lottery ticket in her pocket.

BALDWIN: And speaking appearances as Diane Sawyer pointed out, you know, that was four times come from many Americans.

But let's move off that, because I have plenty of practice, too, in his upcoming interviews. Let's move to something else. She, of course, addressed Benghazi saying, yes, I take responsibility for it, sort of. Here she was.


CLINTON: We had a system, and that system, of course, ended with me, but I take responsibility, but I was not making security decisions. I think it would be a mistake for a secretary of state to sit and say, OK. Let's go through all 270 posts and let me decide what should be done.


BALDWIN: Now, Ana, I know Republicans can say, listen, she should have known more to haven't prevented, been more aware of security issues there at that post in Benghazi, but there is a difference between responsibility here, her word, and accountability.

NAVARRO: You know, I thought this exchange was very interesting, because she was very defensive throughout it. I think it's something that she -- she should look at the tape. She was defensive, her body language, the way she reacted. She interrupted Diane Sawyer mid- sentence as Diane Sawyer was doing a follow-up question.

She is defensive about Benghazi and it is contradictory for her to say in one second, I take responsibility, and then say, follow it up with saying, but I had no decision-making authority. That's a little strange.

BALDWIN: But she clearly, Paul, was -- you know, she knew this issue would be brought up. She knew -- she's almost like getting ahead of it, trying to be on the offensive knowing this will be an issue if she decides to run.

BEGALA: Well, absolutely. And here's the difference. As the responsible officer of the government, she took steps to correct the situation. She brought in independent review panel, chaired by a four-star admiral and distinguished career diplomat. They issued a scathing report, very critical of Hillary's own State Department.

Instead of being defensive about that, she enacted all 29 reforms. So, that's taking responsibility. She took responsibility, she made changes. Hopefully, now, we're protecting our diplomats more.

But what I thought was interesting, as I said, I think Ana's right, she probably could use a primary to get back in practice.


BEGALA: I think I've been proved right when I said these attacks on her, which are so political, to politicized deaths of four diplomats working for her, four Americans, it's outrageous and it's going to I think entice her to run. It's going to make her want to run, to defend her record and frankly to try to protect the reputations of the people that are being dragged into this for political reasons.

BALDWIN: You know, one other issue that she really addressed, and listen, let's be frank. She could be if she decides to run, she could be the first female president of the United States and addressing the fact as a woman, maybe a couple years ago in '08, was she too stiff? Was she too scripted? Did she not address issues of sexism?

This is what she said about that.


CLINTON: I understand why some people might have seen that, or certainly attributed that, because when you're in the spotlight as a woman, you know you're being jumped constantly. I mean it is just never ending.


BALDWIN: As a woman, Ana Navarro, I find it fascinating you say, hang on a second, I'm drowning in estrogen. What do you mean by that?

NAVARRO: I think she's overdoing it this tile. Look, I think you were right, the way you posed this question.

In my eyes, she has already broken the glass ceiling. Hillary Clinton is the first woman in U.S. history that we can all say we know, can be the nominee and can be elected president. That has not happened before.

So I think she has got to be careful from not going -- from avoiding it like the plague in 2008, to now wrapping herself in a big pink bow. I think she has got to, somewhere in the middle, find the comfort zone and be natural about it.

BALDWIN: Be natural. Be herself. Be genuine.

Paul Begala, final word, my friend.

BEGALA: I do think as a guy, but I've had women clients as a political consultant, women have it harder. There's no two ways about it, the great Ann Richards, the late governor of my state of Texas used to say, Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, she just had the to do it backwards and in high heels.

And there's no doubt that Hillary is attacked on things like appearance, her hair, far more than guy would.

BALDWIN: OK. Paul Begala, Ana Navarro, thank you both very much, on all things Hillary.

And people already, Chris Cuomo, lining up in Manhattan to see her and get that book signed.

CUOMO: Too true. Too true.

Coming up on NEW DAY, a college professor is doing research in the Himalayas. He falls, plunges 70 feet into an icy crevasse, videotapes it and lives to tell us about it. He's going to join us. Wait until you hear what it took him to escape.