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Could Grandma Hold Key to Finding Missing Family?; Accountant Accused of Keeping Sex Slaves; Could "Love & Hip-Hop" Star Go to Prison

Aired June 16, 2014 - 19:00   ET


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Tonight, breaking news in the hunt for that missing Alaska family of four. In a very bizarre twist, cops say they`ve

arrested the missing children`s grandmother in Tennessee on unrelated drug trafficking charges, and they plan to extradite her to Alaska for

questioning in the family`s mysterious disappearance. Could this granny, this grandma hold the key to finding this beautiful family before it`s too


Good evening, I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell, coming to you live. Thanks for joining me.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have no idea what`s going on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On May 27, 37-year-old Brandon Jividen, 22-year-old Rebecca or Becca Adams and her two daughters, 5-year-old Michelle and 3-

year-old Jarraca Hundley went missing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The missing persons investigation has been a top priority.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We want them be found. We want to know they`re OK, that the girls are OK. We want them home.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Cops say the family of four -- Brandon Jividen, his girlfriend Rebecca Adams and her two beautiful daughters, ages 5 and 3 --

just vanished off the face of the earth three weeks ago. Investigators say the couple left both of their cars behind. They didn`t pack any bags at

all. They didn`t even take their wallets.

And tonight we`re learning that breakfast was even left right out on the table.

They lived in a rugged, wooded area in Alaska, and they vanished without taking any camping gear whatsoever. Their cell phones have gone dead.

Even the family dog is missing with them.

Now in a stunning turn of events, Lisa Hundley, the woman you`re looking at there -- that`s, I believe, her rap sheet. The grandmother of the two

missing girls and former mother-in-law of the missing woman, she`s arrested on unrelated contempt of court charges connected with a 2010 drug

possession and trafficking conviction.

Now U.S. marshals are hauling that granny from Tennessee all the way to Alaska to grill her. They say she`s not a suspect but hope she can give

investigators, quote, "more perspective on the family itself," end quote. So why doesn`t she just get on a plane for her own interests?

Why is she being extradited? Lisa is the paternal grandmother of the two missing little girls. Her son was in a relationship with their mom,

Rebecca Adams, the woman who`s missing, before he died in a motorcycle accident two years ago. Some published reports are speculating and

suggesting that perhaps the missing woman and the grandmother were in a feud, fighting over money. Whether it`s estate money, insurance money,

after his sudden death.

I want to hear from you. Help us solve this mystery. Call me: 1-877-JVM- SAYS, 1-877-576-7297.

Our Lion`s Den debate panel is fired up and ready to debate this mystery. But first, straight out to our senior producer, Selin Darkalstanian.

You`ve been digging and have some brand-new information.

SELIN DARKALSTANIAN, HLN PRODUCER: That`s right, Jane. Remember, this -- we still don`t know where this family is. This family has completely

vanished into thin air. And what makes it, you know, even more chilling is that the breakfast that we just learned from the landlord, the breakfast

was left on the table. The diaper bag is left in the car. The wallets are there. So this family, whatever happened, happened really suddenly. They

disappeared. It was very sudden, obviously not very expected. The storage room was open.

What happened? Where are they? There`s still no sign of them.

So now this grandmother that is being extradited, the paternal grandmother of the girls, is being extradited from Tennessee all the way to Alaska.

Cops are saying that she could give them, you know, quote, "more perspective" on the family itself. So they`re not calling her a suspect.

But they`re saying, you know, she has some information. She could give them some perspective. What is it that she knows?

You know, on social media, everybody is talking about could it be insurance money? You know, money is always -- can play a factor in these things.

Did he even have insurance money? Was there some type of, you know, beef between the mom and the paternal grandmother that she moved on so quickly

and now has a boyfriend and, you know, reports are she moved in quickly with the boyfriend, right after the death of the father of her children.

We don`t know. This is all speculation.

But what we do know is that this family is still missing. There`s a 3- year-old and a 5-year-old little girl that are missing.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look at this beautiful child. It`s absolutely bizarre. And there`s something very mysterious about the timing that I want to get

my panel to weigh in on.

OK. This family vanished three weeks ago. But cops reportedly didn`t start actually searching until days after the first request for a wellness

check from neighbors came in. Check this out.


LT. DAVE ROSS, KENAI POLICE DEPARTMENT (via phone): Just trying to get a full understanding of the people that are missing and some of their habits

and some of their connections and all those things that might help lead to us locating them.

They were reported by the landlord on June 5, which was last Thursday, as having not been around or paid their rent, and that was out of the



VELEZ-MITCHELL: The landlord`s phone call wasn`t the first time cops were alerted that something was wrong at the family home. Let`s look at the

time line.

The family last seen in public May 25. That`s Memorial Day weekend. May 27, Rebecca speaks on the phone to her sister for the last time before that

sister goes missing. A few days later, May 31, cops get their first call for a wellness check. And then on June 5, they get another call and

eventually launch a search.

Lisa Bloom, here`s something that they`re talking about on social media. OK. This grandmother is being brought in. Right? She would be clearly

upset about her son`s death, the father of these two children who are now missing. OK? Get this: he died in a motorcycle accident in that same town

where they disappeared from May 30, 2012. Almost exactly to the day two years later this family goes missing.

LISA BLOOM, LEGAL ANALYST, AVVO.COM: That is very interesting, Jane. So two things, No. 1, she is presumed innocent. No. 2, she is a very

appropriate person for the police to be focusing on. The police always want to look at the closest family members, question them first, exclude

them, and then expand the circle outward.

If there`s anything suspicious about her, if she had an argument, if she`s expressed some negative ideas about this family, about the boyfriend, about

the mother, of course -- of course, they have to bring her in for questioning. And even if she ends up being excluded as a suspect, she may

have information that can lead them to other leads.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, Lisa Lockwood, the first thing I think of is, yes, absolutely, she is not considered a suspect, that the term "person of

interest" has been mentioned. But that means nothing to me; it`s not a legal term.

And by the way, this grandmother is invited on our show anytime. If she`s watching now, please call in. She is being extradited. If she`s able to.

Please call in if you`re not behind bars. And even if you are behind bars, call in, if you can.

But she`s being extradited from Tennessee all the way to Alaska, which is the location where this family went missing, where her two grandchildren,

as well as the very location, the very town where her son died two years earlier.

My question is, what do cops need to do to check her cell-phone records and other records to find out if she had any communication with anybody who

either went to Alaska around the time of their disappearance or who was in Alaska around the time of their disappearance?

LISA LOCKWOOD, INVESTIGATOR/AUTHOR: Grandma would not be extradited if she was not a suspect. OK? I need to be very clear about that. She right now

is a suspect because of that. Yes, they go through the family members initially. But she is there on not her own recog. She is there because

she was extradited by the police.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Lisa Bloom is saying, no, she`s not a suspect and the police aren`t calling her a suspect. So you guys are disagreeing on this?

LOCKWOOD: Absolutely. I absolutely am, because she could have went there and paid her own ticket. And especially -- let`s look at the facts. She`s

got two grandchildren who are missing. Don`t you think she would go there on her own free will to try and find out what is going on with her


No, the police had intervened and made sure that she was there. So my understanding is the police right now have been pinging and have been

trying to find out if she was in that area at that time.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And it`s so interesting, Wendy Murphy, former prosecutor, that they suddenly come up with this contempt of court charge to arrest

her, related to a drug conviction from 2010. That`s co-ink-ee-dink, right? Suddenly, out of the blue, they take her in.

WENDY MURPHY, FORMER PROSECUTOR: Yes. But that`s the way it works. When you want to take someone in, and you don`t know quite what you can charge

them with, if anything, you find something, especially this lady. She`s a drug trafficking conviction? Come on.

If she`d had a reason to do something terrible to this family, for whatever purpose, either the cash from the poor guy`s accident or for some other

reason, she`s in the business of drug trafficking. I think she knows people who can do bad things. I`m just saying.

So the fact that she`s going there not of her own free will, come on. She knows. And I guarantee you it`s in part probably, because they already did

already conduct a search warrant of her phone and computer, and they know stuff about what she was saying to someone.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Dr. Tiffanie Davis-Henry, psychotherapist, this grandmother lost her son in a motorcycle accident almost or perhaps even

exactly two years to the day before this family disappears. There is speculation -- I don`t know if it`s true -- that they -- that she and her

former daughter-in-law had a falling-out over whatever -- insurance money, whenever. He had a motorcycle crash.

But here`s the other interesting thing. There are reports claiming that this woman, who`s now disappeared, moved in with this new boyfriend soon

after the motorcycle accident in which this grandma`s son was killed. Your thoughts on what her resentments could be?

TIFFANIE DAVIS-HENRY, PSYCHOLOGIST: Right. If she didn`t have a good relationship with the mom -- the mother-in-law before the son`s death,

moving in with her lover or new boyfriend immediately after isn`t going to fix that or make things better. It`s actually going to make it worse.

And so I wouldn`t be surprised if there was a pretty tense relationship. This lady lives clear across the country. So she probably doesn`t get to

see her grandkids as much as she might want to. There`s probably a lot of friction there.

And not to mention the fact that she`s moved on so quickly. That will chap a mother-in-law`s hide better than anything I know.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s go to the phone lines. Sarah, Arizona, what do you think? What do you have to say?

CALLER: Yes, I`d like to say, you know, as far as the family missing in -- in Alaska, there have been a lot of cases of reported -- of people going

missing in Alaska, specifically in Nome. So it may not be the grandmother. How do we know it`s not government related? Because I mean, there have

been a lot of missing cases reported in Alaska itself. And there`s no explanation as to why.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I don`t know about that. I mean, we`re going to talk about the McStays, a family of four who disappeared. But they weren`t in

Alaska, and tragically, they all turned up dead. There`s a lot of very bizarre parallels. We`ll get to that on the other side. We will check and

see if people are vanishing left and right in Alaska. I haven`t heard that before, and I hope it`s not true.

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We`re just getting started on this, eerie parallels to another family of four that disappeared, but they turned up dead.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (via phone): Our neighbors haven`t seen her. Nobody`s seen her. Their vehicles are still parked. Their belongings are still in

their home.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have a message on my home phone of her and the girls, singing me happy -- "Happy Birthday." And I keep listening to that

as much as I can.




UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Want to know that they`re OK. The girls are OK. I want them home.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Rebecca Adams, along with her two beautiful daughters and her boyfriend, missing in Alaska. Rebecca`s sister spoke to her just a

day or two before she disappeared and said Rebecca was stressed out and acting very strangely. Listen to this.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She had called me a couple of weeks ago. She sounded disgusted. She had to get off the phone quickly. She didn`t tell me what

was wrong. Told me she just wanted me to know that she loved me. And I haven`t heard from her since.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: So let`s go back into the Lion`s Den. Lisa Bloom, by the way, legal analyst for and author of the fantastic book,

"Suspicion Nation," appropriate in this case.

Rebecca`s acting oddly on the phone, which would indicate maybe she had some indication that something terrible was about to come down the pike.

But then again, it looks like they were caught by surprise, because the breakfast is on the table, nothing packed, no cars taken. Those two don`t

seem to jibe.

BLOOM: You`re right. And those clues are so tantalizing, Jane. So any of us who have had small children know how hard it is to get everybody out the

door when you are intending to go somewhere. I can only imagine that everything is left in place, because they were suddenly set upon by someone

or multiple people, probably with weapons. And they had to all suddenly leave, leaving everything in place at their home, leaving their cars, their

wallet, the camping gear. I mean, it`s awful to contemplate, but what else could have happened here?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Why would they -- why would the abductors take the family dog, Lisa Lockwood?

LOCKWOOD: And that`s a great question. Usually, in a case like this, my hunch is it was somebody who knew them. Because a dog traditionally would

attack an offender. And if they didn`t find any blood on the scene from that dog, having taken the dog out in some capacity, my hunch is that that

dog knew the person who entered that home.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow. Let`s go to the phone lines from...

MURPHY: But...


MURPHY: But if you take -- if you take the dog, the dog doesn`t run around the neighborhood barking, which can be a quick alert, and then you go

looking for the family faster.

I think it`s weird that the cops didn`t go looking for them sooner. It makes no sense to me.

On the other hand, I`ve been to Alaska. I`ve been fishing in the Kenai, salmon fishing. It`s a gorgeous place. But there`s a whole lot of land

between houses. And for -- you know, for most people, five-hour drives just to go to the store are not uncommon. So for them to be gone, I think

a lot of cops there might say, you know, they may be at, you know, a neighbor`s house, and a neighbor`s house is really far away, or they`ve

gone on a day trip. It`s not uncommon to go really far in Alaska and not be missing.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s add a couple of little...

DARKALSTANIAN: Don`t forget...


DARKALSTANIAN: Don`t forget last week we did searches on the boyfriend she went missing with. And he`s an avid hunter. And he had hunting and

fishing licenses in every state that he`s lived in. So it makes you wonder: Did he have weapons on him? Did he have a gun on him? You know,

that`s another big question.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: He also had a DUI conviction last year. But that`s his only rap sheet, is one DUI conviction.

Let`s go out to the phone lines. We have somebody calling from Alaska. Elizabeth from Alaska, weigh in on this, because you live in that state.

CALLER: I`m wondering, do they have any drug, you know, involvement as the grandmother does, the mother or the boyfriend?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know, we can`t really find out like what he did for a living, whether she was a stay-at-home mom or what she did for a living.

We know this one, the paternal grandma, does have a drug conviction, including trafficking. So that means that she potentially might have

connections with some shady characters. And I think that -- I think, Lisa Lockwood, that`s the point that you`re trying to make. This isn`t any old

grandma. This is a granny with a rap sheet, for drugs.

LOCKWOOD: With a rap sheet. And she was disputing with. She was very upset regarding the estate of her deceased son...


LOCKWOOD: So there had been an ongoing argument for two years. Allegedly, yes. Allegedly. But people are coming forward with that information, so

police are looking at that closely.

So let`s look back again. She was extradited there. She did not go there on her own free will. So she is a huge suspect in this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I just wonder, why would you have to extradite somebody who would want to be there looking, desperately searching for her

missing grandchildren?

Now, we`ve got to go over this. Because I want to talk a little bit about the McStays, you know, that family, Joseph, Summer, their two kids. They

disappeared in February of 2010. And they also left food on the table. It`s a very, very odd parallel, except in the case of the McStays, their

dogs were left in the yard with no food or water before being rescued.

Investigators thought they saw this family crossing the border to Mexico on surveillance video. The family`s car was ultimately found abandoned. And

then very sadly, because we covered this case so many times, all four McStays, including the 3- and 4-year-old boys, were found buried in

California`s Mojave desert. Listen to this.


PATRICK MCSTAY, JOSEPH MCSTAY`S FATHER: I`ve been consumed with knowing something happened to them, that this was not -- you know, that the San

Diego sheriff`s Department was out there only doing whatever they felt they could do that would fit with their little theory and prove that they

voluntarily walked away because the only thing you ever heard out of them or you ever saw was that.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I mean, Wendy Murphy, former prosecutor, this tragically proves that you can abduct four people, including children, and

kill them. And this case remains unsolved to this day.

MURPHY: Yes. And what`s freaky to me is, whatever the reason people retaliate -- money, drugs, whatever -- it`s pretty rare to hurt the kids.

And to see that happen twice -- and I`m sure the numbers are even bigger than two -- there`s something really wrong here. I mean, we are escalating

whatever this is to a level that is just barbaric. I don`t get it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, it`s hideous. And we`re going to stay on top of this story. We`re going to find out what happens when granny gets to

Alaska and she`s grilled and what information she gives cops. And hopefully, let`s pray that they find this family, especially those two

beautiful girls.

Now, on the other side, this is such a crazy story. I had to read the criminal complaints several times, because I just couldn`t even believe

what I was reading.

Cops say this guy led a double life. He`s a buttoned-up accountant by day, and cops say a man who kept sex slaves trapped in his house behind locked

doors while he plied them with crack cocaine by night. It`s a crazy story you will not believe. But cops say it`s true.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Timothy Deegan, accountant by day...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s a prominent neighborhood. It is an upper-class neighborhood.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Charges he kept three women locked in his house as sex slaves, investigators describe as a house of horrors.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He met them on a site called

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Deegan would give the women cocaine in exchange for sex and housecleaning. They say he videotaped their sexual encounters,

streamed it on the Internet and even prostituted them out to others.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, this is a shocker. Fasten your seat belts.

A well-to-do accountant -- yes, he does taxes, right, a CPA -- accused of secretly running a drug-fueled sex dungeon inside his upper-crust Florida


Fifty-three-year-old Timothy Deegan, that guy right there, he`s smiling. I don`t know why. Allegedly held three women captive inside his home for six

months, trading sex for crack cocaine and even housekeeping. Even streaming the sex acts online and allegedly pimping women out to others.

This is what the cops are saying.

Deegan allegedly plied his captives with cocaine, crack cocaine. He used hidden cameras all over his home to watch their every move. Cops say he

used their cell phones to track them. He removed doorknobs to keep them from escaping.

When investigators searched the home, they say they found syringes, hidden cameras, cocaine, sex tapes. The scandalous allegations against Deegan

have completely rocked his community.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s a prominent neighborhood. It is an upper-class neighborhood. And no one really saw it coming.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: When detectives first began investigating Deegan in December, when one of the alleged victims told police she found a video he

had recorded of him having sex with her while she was passed out, the suspect reportedly admitted it, and he was arrested for sexual battery.

But not so fast. That woman then changed her story and claims she was a willing participant in the sex. The videos were all part of their sexual

repertoire, including the fact that she was OK with him having sex with her while she was asleep or passed out.

Are you kidding me? Is she telling the truth? Or is she trying to protect her captor?

Call me: 1-877-JVM-SAYS. I want to hear from you.

This is a crazy one. The suspect`s attorney told us he is, quote, "asserting his innocence." The charges are greatly exaggerated, he says.

There are credibility issues with the victims and that he is not guilty of the charges in this case. And that attorney or even the guy in question

invited on anytime.

Straight out to reporter Mark Starling from News 96.5. Spell it out for us. This criminal complaint, I can`t read it on the air, because it`s so

triple-X-rated. But give us a sense of what cops say was going on inside that home and in other places?

MARK STARLING, REPORTER, NEWS 96.5 (via phone): Well, Jane, I mean, aside from selling crack cocaine, prostitution, voyeurism, hidden cameras, drugs,

syringes, sex tapes -- I mean, this story really -- this has it all. I mean, for news people, this is one of those stories where it`s, like, hard

to believe that all this was coming out of one place, No. 1.

Now, this guy, Deegan, he`s in jail. He`s still in Alachua County Jail right now on $300,000 bond. Being held on three counts of human


And so far, that`s what we`ve seen in the arrest report and like you said, it`s just so convoluted and so hard to believe that this was all going on.

You know, I reached out to the district attorney`s office today to try to find out some more information. They were not able to get back with me in

time. But, again, you know, we`re just kind of waiting for this guy to -- for the case to start at this point.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, look, you know what really had me falling off my chair is that the attorney for this guy -- well, somehow we got ahold of

this document I hold in my hand, and this is one of the woman who was allegedly held captive there, recanting her whole story. And it`s

unbelievable. Yes, this was sent by the suspect`s attorney.

And in it, she essentially says that that, "No, I wasn`t forced to do anything." And I`ve got to read this, because Lisa Bloom, you`re going to

be so shocked by this. "I have been involved in a voluntary and willing sexual relationship with Timothy Deegan for over a year now. During the

course of this relationship, we have engaged in intercourse many times. I have never had intercourse with Timothy Deegan that I did not consent to.

It`s a common practice for us to videotape ourselves while we`re having sexual intercourse. I`ve done this with him many times. And all of those

times, the act of intercourse and the act of videotaping had been freely, knowingly and voluntarily performed on my behalf."

And here`s the absolute kicker. "I have even told Timothy Deegan on multiple prior occasions that I consent to having sex -- I consent to him

having sex with me while I`m asleep or passed out."

What woman, Lisa Bloom, is going to say, "I consent to you having sex with me while I`m asleep or passed out"?

BLOOM: Well, a woman who is a victim and has been so brainwashed and so emotionally beaten down that she`ll say anything to protect her

perpetrator. That`s one. Another is, you know, it is possible that she really did consent. We don`t know. What we do know -- I handle a lot of

these kinds of cases of --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Or one who`s drug-addicted and high.

BLOOM: -- sexual abuse or sexual assault is that women tend to tell a story and then they recant. And then they tell the story and then recant

as do children in child sexual abuse cases. One of the most frustrating things about handling these kinds of cases but we have to understand the

psychology of it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, on the other side of the break, we`re going to talk Blog Xilla with about one of the ways -- it`s mentioned in

this criminal complaint that he kept these woman under his thumb. And I`m not talking about taking out the doorknobs and the cameras and the GPS.

I`m talking about crack cocaine.

Stay right there.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He met them on a site called

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Deegan would give the women cocaine in exchange for sex and housecleaning. They say he videotaped their sexual encounters,

streamed it on the Internet and even prostituted them out to others.



VELEZ-MITCHELL: Timothy Deegan is a 53-year-old very successful Florida accountant who lives in a very nice home. But now we`re uncovering what

cops say is a secret, secret sordid life. He`s not exactly a CPA, the kind of person you`d expect to have a secret sex dungeon in his home. So let`s

take a look at the side he presented to the public -- the suspect`s ad for his tax service.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is someone else preparing your taxes? Do they know their stuff? Ask-tax. Your investment or real estate market down? Ask-

tax. IRS got questions for you? Ask-tax. Let the firm of Tim Deegan, certified public accountant, answer your important questions, including

retirement planning, wealth management and more. Qualified and certified, contact Tim Deegan at or call 337-0020. Tim Deegan -- taking

the ax out of tax.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. There`s his ad. Oh, reputable CPA. But the truth is this guy`s got a rap sheet dating back a quarter of a century --

ok. 1984, he was arrested for trafficking cocaine. 2008, charged with cocaine possession. Then the December arrest for sexual battery which is

now being combined with the latest human trafficking charges he faces.

According to the criminal complaint, he met his alleged victims on a Web site associated with prostitution. He took them to his home. He streamed

sex videos that he recorded with them online and detectives believe he`s affiliated with several known drug dealers. Those dealers would pay him

for coke and for leasing cars to transport the illegal drugs, according to cops.

Now look, Blog Xilla with, what gets me is he`s been out for a long time, even though there`s a sheet this thick of people in his

neighborhood complaining about him. You know, he doesn`t fit the profile of the typical pimp or the typical drug dealer. You know what I`m saying?

BLOG XILLA, GLOBALGRIND.COM: I get you 100 percent. I mean nowadays, if you`re from Florida, anything is possible. This guy looks just like -- I

would suspect him of being a creep for having someone locked in his basement and to use crack cocaine to do that. Crack is a powerful drug and

it can pretty much make a person do anything. I mean do you even talk to your neighbors now? This is a sick story.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Absolutely. You raise a very important point. Wendy Murphy -- maybe I`ll throw this to Tiffanie Davis-Henry, in this criminal

complaint, it talks about how he controlled these women and it wasn`t just removing the doorknobs and GPS on their cell phones.

But here`s the thing, according to this criminal complaint, one of the women stated that he wouldn`t allow her to meet other sources of supply for

crack cocaine because she was a drug addict. So basically he controlled their crack cocaine. And when you control an addict`s drug, you control


DAVIS-HENRY: You control them. And I wouldn`t be surprised if that letter wasn`t either written by him or written by one of the victims but certainly

under duress of her wanting more drugs. That`s another scenario, too.

This is a guy who preyed on women, who drugged them, who held them hostage and sexually violated them repeatedly. To me, in my mind, he`s no

different than an Ariel Castro. No different.

MURPHY: That`s exactly what I was going to say. This guy is such a monster, such a pig. And I think he`ll be very good using his ledger sheet

from his CPA train to add up the life sentences he`s going to get at the end of this one.

What I want to know is --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Don`t insult pigs.

MURPHY: -- why would the prosecutor -- why would the prosecutor drop the charges knowing that this woman was drugged and raped and it was on video?

You don`t even need her to take the stand. You just push the button. You go play -- I rest my case, guilty. Why do you let a guy like this out?

I`m up to here with prosecutors blaming victims for why they can`t get their damn jobs done. This is slavery. This is slavery, just like blacks

in the south, it`s happening to women. The fact that it has sex attached to it changes nothing.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: First of all, I don`t want to accuse his attorneys of anything. Everybody has a right to counsel. I`m not going to suggest that

they did anything untoward in this retraction by one of the alleged victims. I think it has a lot to do with addiction.

But I will say that I am seeing call after call from a long time ago -- from neighbors saying, do something about this guy, I`m hearing screams,

I`m hearing women scream from inside the house. Why on earth, Lisa Bloom, did it take them so long to go in there? Why didn`t they charge in there a

long time ago? They might have found these women.

BLOOM: I think you put your finger on it earlier -- Jane. He doesn`t fit the profile. We`re talking about Florida. I mean I just wrote a book

about racial profiling in Florida and across the United States. And look at the house.

I mean -- listen hats off to these neighbors because the only way to stop sex trafficking in the U.S. which is a huge problem -- Wendy Murphy is

absolutely right -- is for people to speak up, to call the police. If the police don`t act, call again, again and again because we have to stop it.

And that is the only way. I don`t know if the police sure have some explaining to do as to how this went on for so long after all those calls

and they failed to act.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We have to start smashing stereotypes. Hello. You can be anything, even if you look like a very successful CPA in a very neat house.

One of the reasons his house is so neat, according to cops, is that he had these women cleaning it for him in return for the drugs.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: So let`s stop saying that certain people look like drug dealers. According to cops, right now this guy is the poster boy for

drugs. Go ahead

DAVIS-HENRY: And sex trafficking.

XILLA: Exactly. Have you seen "Wolf Of Wall Street". Leonardo DiCaprio played a drug using successful stock broker. Like anyone can use drugs,

anyone could sell drugs. Drugs are so easy to get these days. They can come from anyone. Just because you don`t look like you should -- if he had

a hoodie on, he would have sold drugs, right? No -- of course, he sold drugs. Look at the guy, look what he did.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Exactly. Unbelievable story.

Now, another wild story. He`s a hugely, hugely successful star of the reality show "Love & Hip Hop Atlanta". It`s a smash. But will something

from Stevie J`s past send his whole world crashing down? This is new information -- breaking news just in.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After the post-marital birthday blowout, Justine was all fired up. She left the party and almost ripped my head off when I got

to the crib. So I gave her some space and I slept downstairs in the bunker.




VELEZ-MITCHELL: The hit show "Love & Hip Hop Atlanta".

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good lord. I`m a lucky guy.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When people watch it for the first time, they just can`t get enough. I hear that everywhere I go.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`ve got money. And I put all the money for a lawyer to make sure my daughter`s good.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I didn`t want to watch. And when I watched it, I was glued.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There`s been something about "Love & Hip-Hop Atlanta" --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m not complaining. Look around. Oh, what a life.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jaw-dropping new revelations. Breaking news: reality star Stevie J`s troubles are mounting tonight as new reports surface that he`s

not only facing criminal charges for allegedly failing to pay child support, but he could also lose his property to pay off the money he owes.

As we told you last week, the "Love & Hip-Hop Atlanta" star was arrested for allegedly not forking over more than $1 million in child support

payments for two kids he has with a former girlfriend. We`re not talking about reality show co-star Mimi Faust.

Now TMZ is reporting New York state may start seizing Stevie J`s property to pay off that million-debt. We did some digging and reached out to

Stevie J`s lawyer. He tells us he hasn`t gotten any documentation saying the state is going after Stevie`s property. But that doesn`t mean they`re

not coming. And he says well, it`s mathematically impossible that his client owed so much money, calling it preposterous. If there is an amount

owed -- it`s definitely not $1 million or anything close to that amount.

Straight out to "Lion`s Den" -- Kendra G, you know Stevie J. I mean is he quaking in his designer boots tonight?

KENDRA G, ENTERTAINMENT REPORTER: Oh my gosh, Stevie J is taking all of black America back with this one. I mean he`s not paying his IRS bill,

he`s not paying his child support. I almost disowned my blackness today. You are right. I know Stevie J. He`s such a sweet guy -- I have partied

with him so many times.

But this one right here, I cannot make an excuse for it, Jane. He is totally wrong. He deserves whatever he gets from this mess, right here.

He deserves it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And it`s complicated. We need a chart. In addition to the two kids Stevie J allegedly failed to pay child support for to the

tune of $1 million, he also has a two-year-old daughter with his ex- girlfriend Mimi Faust. That rings a bell, doesn`t it?

He went after her for being an unfit parent when a sex tape was accidentally leaked featuring Mimi and boyfriend Nikko. Watch this from

VH1`s "Love & Hip-Hop Atlanta".


STEVIE J, REALITY TV STAR: Nothing funny when it comes to my daughter. I`m about to lay down the law. I`m just trying to see if you`re making all

the right decisions, if my daughter needs to be around you`re making irrational decisions.


J: Because you know that I`ve got money and I`ll put all my money for a lawyer to make sure my daughter is good.

FAUST: She doesn`t live with you, she lives with me.

J: But she can.

FAUST: But she doesn`t.

J: But she can.

FAUST: She doesn`t.

J: She can and I quit.

FAUST: And how are you going to do that? Because you have to prove me unfit.

J: It isn`t hard right now.



VELEZ-MITCHELL: Blog Xilla,, he`s got a lot of nerve. He`s lecturing Mimi. He has to know in his head that he has a big, big

problem about to bite him with the money he owes.

XILLA: Plus Stevie J has a sex tape with Eve who just got married. So he can`t say that to her face. Stevie J has his own sex tape.

G: He just did.

XILLA: But I am on Stevie J`s side especially when it comes to this child support thing. I mean just because he met some girl 15 years ago and, you

know, hooked up with her --

G: Are you kidding me? What are you talking about?


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Lisa Bloom, I have to throw her into the pen on this one.

BLOOM: Let me in. Listen, you make a baby, you take responsibility for that baby -- happy father`s day. I can tell you --

XILLA: But it`s not $1 million worth.

BLOOM: -- who goes after --


BLOOM: The child is entitled to the same lifestyle as the father. If he has a very wealthy lifestyle, the child is entitled to that, too. It is

very mathematically possible. Get this, those women didn`t spontaneously conceive. It takes two to make a baby. It takes two to support that baby.


G: Yes, yes, yes. I`ve got to say this. You know, I`m disappointed in you as a black man, to make that statement. You know it`s very important

to raise your children. How can you say that and say you`re on Stevie J`s side --

XILLA: But raising a child -- raising a child requires more than just money. It`s not just money.

G: No, it does take money to raise a child. Don`t even sit out there and act like --


VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. All right. All right.

You`re getting a smack down from the women, Blog Xilla. Hold on, the spanking continues on the other side.



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partners in the new hottest club in Atlanta.





UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you say?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s cute. I like it.

J: Sleazy and Xeno Bistro and Buzz is going to have the hottest food, the stiffest drinks, the loudest system, the hottest performances and the

flyest night life Atlanta`s ever seen.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: There`s Stevie J talking about yet another new business venture. He`s a successful producer. He`s on this hit reality show. And

guess what -- he hasn`t paid child support for two kids in over a decade -- according to the filing anyway. The Atlanta Journal of Constitution

reporting court documents show he was required to pay almost $6,600 a month way back in 1999. And that kept going up.

Now listen, let me ask you this. Kendra G, you know him. If they say they could seize some property, does he even have any property or is he renting

everything for show?

G: Well, he does have money Jane because he is getting paid to be on the show. And then he also has appearance money that he travels off around the

world with his wife Jocelyn. So he does have income. I`m not sure if he has enough income to pay back a million dollars in child support. Now I

will say that much.

But he does have money coming in. He does.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know what -- what was he thinking? Go ahead -- Lisa.

BLOOM: Jane his child support ordered by the court is going to be based on his income. So we shouldn`t have any sympathy for guys who say, boo-hoo-

hoo, I can`t afford it. Your income was the basis for that order. And by the way, it`s very difficult to fight one of these because it`s all there

in the court order. If you paid it or he didn`t --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Exactly, exactly. If you`re driving around in a fancy car but you owe $1 million in back child support, that means you bought the car

and didn`t pay the bill for the kids.

Stay right there.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I said that things are going to fine for you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What do you mean for me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your husband I`m not too sure about.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Could (inaudible) face deportation? That he could be subject to deportation after completing whatever terms of imprisonment.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Me without you doesn`t work. This family cannot function without you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I love you so much.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: That from bravo. That`s Teresa and Joe Giudice and they pled guilty to fraud charges a couple of months. They`re in hard times.

Joe could be deported back to Italy where he was born.

Blog Xilla, what is it with these reality stars and money problems?

XILLA: I mean if you don`t -- you don`t go to reality TV if you don`t have money problems. If your money is good you don`t need reality TV or letting

those cameras into your life. Nine times out of ten they don`t have as much money as they seem or appear to because they`re only getting what --

$10,000 $20,000. Unless when you get to really, really do it then you start to get a lot more money. But you know --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Pay your bills first before you spend -- that`s what we all have to do whether we make $5,000 a year or $500,000 or $5 million.

It`s the same deal.

Nancy`s next.