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U.S. Draws with Portugal in World Cup; ISIS Continues to Capture Cities in Iraq; One-on-One Interview with Barack Obama; Kerry Meeting with Iraqi Officials over ISIS; Divide Within the Republican Party

Aired June 23, 2014 - 07:00   ET

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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: I like your shirt.

FERNANDO FIORE, AUTHOR, "THE WORLD CUP, THE ULTIMATE GUIDE": I got your memo very early. How are you?

CUOMO: Who is on the ball?

FIORE: Yesterday Maridona, Diego Maridona, the one and only. Yesterday was the 16th anniversary of the best goal of the World Cup, the famous goal against England, not the one with the hand, the other one, the one that was considered the best of the best.

CUOMO: Indulge me. Let my audience know as they're becoming in love with soccer, tell them about the majesty of Diego Maridona, who he played for, why he's so special?

FIORE: First we have to define him as a player, Maridona as a man. That's why we have so many people who cheer him and so many people who hate him so bad, because he got a very, very difficult world in terms of personal life. As a player he was the best. For me, for my generation and purely for the ones that are Argentinians or not, they love soccer, they think he was the best. He's the best.

CUOMO: He was an Argentine star, just so you know.

FIORE: Now I can tell you the story of the guy. He is the best.

CUOMO: And he signed the ball.

FIORE: He signed the ball. Also Figo, a very famous Portuguese. Lineker, which was a player from England, and Raul from Spain, another world champion from Argentina but in Italy, played in Italy in 2006 and was a champion.

CUOMO: This is beautiful. First of all, thank you very much for the gift. I appreciate it. I'm kidding. The thing that makes it beautiful is it shows you love the sport. You love all the different countries, even if it's not your home team. That's what makes the World Cup so special. You're wearing the U.S. jersey. You know the coach.

FIORE: Very much. CUOMO: So Jurgen says us wing is not a reality. In the U.S. they go

crazy. They can't believe a coach says his team can't win. How does he mean this?

FIORE: They asked me this before. I think it's because he's German. He's not Latin. If you ask Argentinian coach, Brazilian coach, we are winning, we are going to be the champions. No problem at all, relax. We are the best. You ask a German guy, which is very nice, calm, and collected. He says we've got no chances. Then if he wins he looks like a genius. If he doesn't, I told you so. It's a perfect -- a win-win situation, Chris. Jurgen is a great guy. I don't like it that he left Landon Donovan at home.

CUOMO: Landon Donavon was a U.S. great for many years, didn't make the squad this year. Do you think they needed him?

FIORE: Yes.

CUOMO: For leadership?

FIORE: Because he's a great player, because an icon in the United States soccer, and he's the best we have had so far.

CUOMO: Do you think the U.S. looks the way they need to look to make it out of the group and make an impact at the World Cup?

FIORE: Definitely. They are looking very strong. They were a little bit lucky Against Ghana, but yesterday they demonstrate they can beat anybody. It's going to be a great game. I'm sorry. By the way, I have a little problem with, yes, we will tie with German, because it's going to be rumors from here to the end of the world.

CUOMO: You don't buy it. The idea that the --

FIORE: It didn't happen.

CUOMO: Two teams kind of colluded and took it easy on each other?

FIORE: That's why I want to teach you something. That's why today when we start the last phase of the first stage, we play at the same time, two matches, they play at the same time. So the other guys don't know what's going on because in 1982 Austria and Germany, they knew they need a tie to pass and they did tie. They didn't attack at all.

CUOMO: So you don't think that's going to happen this time?

FIORE: I don't know.

CUOMO: Oh, come on.

FIORE: This is what happened. It's a rumor from here to the day of the match. Then if it happens, I told you so. If it didn't, soccer is the cleanest sport in the world. So it's a win-win situation.

CUOMO: So there's a mystery involved. FIORE: Very much, very much. It's the mystery of the World Cup.

CUOMO: So you have an Italian name, but you're an Argentine, you're wearing a U.S. jersey. You have a ball with 20 different countries on it.

FIORE: I'm a global guy.

CUOMO: You are a global citizen.

FIORE: I'm a global kind of guy, a renaissance man. Actually I'm so happy to be with you with my seven work hours.

CUOMO: You're only 26 years old.

FIORE: No, actually I'm 53. And now with the mustache coming back, I'm going to be 54.

CUOMO: You look beautiful. Fernando Fiore, thank you so much.

FIORE: Please, I'm going to give you a little gift.

CUOMO: I'll take it.

FIORE: You can follow me @FernandoFiore. And there you have the guide of the workout. Here you can practice your Spanish. If you turn around, you can do it in English.

CUOMO: I get it both ways, Kate.

FIORE: In Espanola.

CUOMO: Not yet. Beautiful. Fernando Fiore, thank you very much.

FIORE: Thank you very much.

CUOMO: Kate, to you.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks, Chris. We'll get back to you very soon.

Let's turn our attention to the developing story continuing in Iraq. Secretary of State John Kerry has just wrapped up high-level meetings in Iraq as the situation in the country looks like it's continuing to deteriorate. ISIS militants have now captured more towns in the western part of the country including two key border towns with Syria and Jordan. I spoke with President Obama who said that the United States is willing to help, of course, if Iraqi leaders are willing to compromise. Listen.

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BOLDUAN: By going in to the country to support this Iraqi government, to support Iraqi forces now, there's a real risk that you will very well likely be seen as supporting the Shiite side. Isn't that inflaming the tension further and thus doing exactly what ISIS wants? BARACK OBAMA, (D) PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Yes, actually not

because the terms in which we're willing to go in as advisers initially is to do an assessment of do they still have a functioning chain of command and is their military still capable? But what we've also said is if we don't see Sunni, Shia, and Kurd representation in the military command structure, if we don't see Sunni, Shia and, Kurd political support for what we're doing, then we won't do it.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BOLDUAN: Let's discuss this and more with Lieutenant Colonel Rick Francona, CNN military analyst, of course former military liaison officer to the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, also assigned to the CIA for operations in northern Iraq. Colonel, thank you very much, really appreciate it.

Let's show the map. Let's show also the towns that ISIS has already taken and over the weekend, a handful of towns have been taken additionally, closer and closer moving west. I think two U.S. officials said at least 70 percent of Anbar province is now under ISIS control. What do you make of these gains? They seem so quick.

LIEUTENANT COLONEL RICK FRANCONA, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: In Anbar province they're just rolling up the towns they bypassed initially and they're going back and consolidating this whole area. But what we're seeing is they're moving close to Baghdad toward the southeast. They're also moving toward the southwest down toward the Jordanian border, toward the Saudi border, which is something many of us didn't expect to see. So they've taken the border crossings, they've completely taken the Syrian border now. They've pretty much isolated Baghdad from the Syrians.

BOLDUAN: What is the intention of that? What do you see in that? What's the strategy there?

FRANCONA: Well, ISIS has made no qualms about what they want. They want to set up a Caliphate in the entire area. We call it the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, but hey mean Syria as greater Syria which includes not just the country of Syria but includes the area of Lebanon, Jordan, parts of Saudi Arabia. So they're looking at this as the new caliphate.

BOLDUAN: So you see we highlighted Rutba. This is one of the towns that they've taken over and you see just how close it is to the borders of Jordan and Syria and, quite honestly, Saudi Arabia right there. Why is that so important and so dangerous?

FRANCONA: Rutba is the key city in western Iraq. It's like U.S. quality interstates out there, and Rutba is the junction. You go north into Syria, you go west into Jordan. This is the key city out there, you can go over there. And even if you want to go into Saudi Arabia, this is where you would start from. And the fact that they've taken it indicates that the Iraqi army really isn't interested in fighting in the west. They've ceded the entire west to ISIS. It looks like they pulled back. They're going to make their stand in Baghdad. BOLDUAN: So you have Rutba, they've taken Rutba. Is it entirely

clear if there are Iraqi forces still protecting the border crossings?

FRANCONA: It looks like the border crossings are completely under control of ISIS. The Jordanians have reacted by moving forces to the border. So it looks like we're setting up yet another battle.

BOLDUAN: What could that mean if ISIS heads to the border with Jordan, an ally?

FRANCONA: It's an ally of the United States. Do we defend the Jordanians? What's our position there? If they move south towards Saudi Arabia, do we again defend Saudi Arabia?

BOLDUAN: Is that when it really threatens to take this to a whole new level?

FRANCONA: Exactly. We don't know when this is going to stop. I think many of us were surprised by the momentum that ISIS has gathered. Are they going right up to the borders. And what's their next intention. Are they going to move to Baghdad or are they going to try and go into Jordan? We don't know yet.

BOLDUAN: You heard part of my conversation with President Obama, and that I think is a pretty key question. He says first what the military advisers, if they're going to go in, what they're going to need to assess is if there is still a clear chain of command and control within the Iraqi army. Where do they need to go first to do that?

FRANCONA: They're going to have to go to Baghdad and go to the ministry of defense and see if they still have a functioning command structure, because it looks to me like it has collapsed. And if we don't see that, then we have to start over. Do we have time to do that?

BOLDUAN: What is the what then?

FRANCONA: Do we have to create an Iraqi army in this short period of time? And I think we're going to find a fractured, very partisan, Shia dominated command structure.

BOLDUAN: How can you then start that reconciliation process politically with all of this it looks like Iraq falling at every turn?

FRANCONA: You won't do it with 300 advisers.

BOLDUAN: Rick, thank you. Colonel, great to see you, thank you so much. Michaela?

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Kate, thanks so much. Let's take a look at your headlines now, 10 minutes past the hour. Three Al Jazeera journalists have been sentenced to seven years in an Egyptian prison. The trio was convicted on charges including aiding the Muslim Brotherhood, endangering national security, and aiding terrorists. The journalists have proclaimed their innocence. Al Jazeera issued a scathing statement criticizing that decision.

Early this morning Israeli warplanes targeted nine Syrian military posts. This came hours after a cross border attack killed an Israeli teenager and injured two others. This is the first time an Israeli has been killed on their side of the border since the civil war erupted in Syria in 2011. It all comes amid heightened tensions. Israel is still searching for three teens that were abducted more than a week ago.

Caught on tape, not your typical car chase. This is a father and daughter going after suspects who allegedly robbed their home in Houston. When the suspects saw they were being followed, the driver stopped and smashed into the pursuing car. The suspects turned around and hit the father and daughter head on. Thank god because the police finally arrived on scene. They arrived on scene soon after that impact of the vehicle. They arrested two of the burglars. The father and daughter we're told are OK. I understand that the daughter had some whiplash but has been released from the hospital. Of course, law enforcement always is going to say don't do this.

BOLDUAN: Unbelievable.

PEREIRA: Really scary. They did get some of the suspects apprehended.

BOLDUAN: Good ending at least. Thanks, Michaela.

All right, let's take another break. Coming up next on NEW DAY, here is a question for you. There are only three countries, really, that do not offer some kind of paid maternity leave. Why then is the United States on that list? More from my one-on-one interview with President Obama as he gears up for today's White House summit on working families.

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BOLDUAN: Welcome back. More now from one-on-one my interview with President Obama. He's gearing up for today's White House summit on working families, to address millions of Americans and the issues that really hit at home literally. One is that many families, they really cannot take any time off to care for a newborn or a sick family member.

I asked the president how he plans to get the country and the Congress to focus on this issue.

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OBAMA: The country is already focused on family issues. Every single day, there are conversations around the kitchen table where people are trying to figure out, you know, what -- this child care is costing so much, I'm not sure that we're going to be able to make our mortgage at the end of the month. There are folks who are saying, you know, Little Johnny is sick, but if I don't show up at my job, because I don't have paid family leave, we're not going to be able to pay the electricity bill. And so the goal for our Working Families Summit on Monday is to lift up the conversation that everybody is already having individually and letting people know you're not alone out here.

So what we want to do is to lift up best practices, show that for companies who are offering paid family leave, who are offering flexibility, their workers are more productive, more loyal, there's lower turnover and ultimately they're going to be more profitable.

I'm going to be taking some action, a presidential memorandum directing every federal agency to be very clear to their employees that it is my view that offering flexibility where possible is the right thing to do. We don't want people having to choose between family and work when you've got an emergency situation.

BOLDUAN: You know this, but you talk to 10 different people, you're going to get 10 different challenges that they face in trying to succeed at the work and life balance, to succeed at both. What are the three things that you would like to see companies, employers, businesses do to make it work? Because you know those priorities don't always align.

OBAMA: Yes. There are some things that we know will make a difference in people's lives.

Paid family leave, we're the only advanced country on earth that doesn't have it. It doesn't make any sense.

This is not just a woman's issue. One of the most precious memories that I'll ever have is when my first daughter, Malia, was born, I was lucky enough that my schedule allowed me to take that first month off. And, you know, staying up until two in the morning and feeding her and burping her, you know, creates a bond that is irreplaceable.

And a lot of companies are already doing it and it's working. And Michelle and I have talked about this. You know, when we knew that employers had our backs and were willing to give us flexibility to look after family, that made us want to work harder for that employer, even if it meant taking work home with us.

So we have unpaid family leave right now, but for a whole lot of families, it means they can't use it, because they just can't afford it.

Number two, workplace flexibility. If I've got a parent-teacher conference, you know, we always say that we want parents involved in our kids' education. There are millions of families out there who can't even imagine taking time off to go to parent-teacher's conference.

And then the third thing is the issue of child care. You know, we don't do a very good job providing high quality, affordable child care and there are a lot of countries, a lot of our competitors do it. That means that it's a lot easier for women to be in the workforce and -- and not have to make choices that ultimately mean they're, in some cases, getting paid less or having less opportunities. I should add on that list equal pay for equal work. We've done some

things administratively on that front. I always say that shouldn't be a women's issue, because I always wanted Michelle to make sure she was getting paid fairly. Because when she bought her paycheck home, that went into the overall pot to help us pay our bills.

BOLDUAN: You know, Republicans, they will be critical of some of the initiatives you're trying to...

OBAMA: I think I -- I think that's fair to say.

BOLDUAN: Fair.

(LAUGHTER)

BOLDUAN: But -- but it is no...

OBAMA: That's shocking.

BOLDUAN: It is. But it's no secret that Democrats' midterm election strategy is to pitch to women to get the women to come out to vote. They've said that. Is this all politics?

OBAMA: I was raised by a single mom who had to work, go to school, raise two kids. I didn't come from a wealthy family. We were helped by my grandparents and the primary breadwinner there was my grandma, who never got a college education, but worked her way up from a secretary to being a vice president of the bank, uh, but also hit a glass ceiling.

I've got a -- a strong successful wife, who I remember being reduced to tears sometimes because she couldn't figure out how to juggle everything that she was doing. And I've got two daughters that I care about more than anything in the world. And so this -- this is personal for me. And I think it's personal for a lot of people.

This is not just a women's issue. This is a middle class issue and an American issue. I'd welcome a part -- a bipartisan effort with ideas coming from the private sector and from Republicans, from Democrats and, you know, from non-profits and the faith community about how we make sure that we're supporting families and reducing their stress.

That's what this Monday summit is all about.

BOLDUAN: Mr. President, we need to wrap up. But since she has been kicking throughout our entire interview, the little miss would probably want to know if you have any best advice for first-time parents, this one included?

OBAMA: You know, you're going to do great. Michelle and I talk about this. Kids are more resilient than you realize. You give them unconditional love and then you give them some structure and some rules. And they usually turn out really, really well. And they'll bring you a lot of joy.

But, you know, we were pretty big believers in, as early as -- as soon as they could understand words, you know, you start giving them some assignments. Nap, eat your peas, you know, pick up the toys off the floor and, you know, by the time they're -- they're 16, they turn out pretty good, although they don't always give you as much time with them as you want.

BOLDUAN: Yours have turned out pretty well. Thank you, Mr. President.

OBAMA: Good luck.

BOLDUAN: Thank you very much.

OBAMA: You bet.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PEREIRA: Getting parental advice from the President of the United States. Fantastic.

(LAUGHTER)

BOLDUAN: Nothing partisan or political about that piece of advice, get your kids to eat their peas.

PEREIRA: Absolutely, and have a nap. Maybe take a nap while they're napping too. I heard that's a good choice.

BOLDUAN: I've heard that's probably a good idea, and they are bringing out all of the White House star power for this White House event. They really are pushing it. The president is expected to speak, the First Lady is as well, the Vice President and Jill Biden, they're all scheduled to be at this White House summit. So they are making a big push. What can be done from a federal level is a big important question. Some states are trying to take on these issues on their own, but to what amount of success and how that can be an example of best practices elsewhere -- that's what they're going to be looking at today.

PEREIRA: Issues that would resonate with a lot of families certainly. Great conversation. Well done. Well done getting a little advice from the president, too. I like that.

BOLDUAN: A little self-serving at the end.

PEREIRA: No, no, no. It was really sweet. Let's take a break on NEW DAY.

Ahead, Hillary Clinton makes hundreds of thousands of dollars just to give a speech. But she says she's not, quote, truly well off. We're going to take a look at her tax bracket on Inside Politics.

CUOMO: Not truly well off. I heard that all the way down here in Brazil. We're down here for World Cup fever. Boy, it is sweeping the country. Team USA takes another step, not as big a step as it could have taken. We're going to take you through this shocker finish in the U.S.-Portugal match and we'll show you the path ahead from Brazil. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PEREIRA: A little past the hour. Let's look at the headlines. Secretary of State John Kerry wrapping up meetings with Iraqi officials this morning. This as ISIS swallows more ground in western Iraq. Officials say militants have captured key border towns with Jordan and Syria. President Obama told our Kate Bolduan there's not enough American firepower that can hold that country together.

Another big shift coming in the hunt for missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370. Officials say they've reexamined the data and it could move the search hundreds of kilometers to the south. The new location is expected to be announced by Australian authorities on Wednesday. The new search for the plane and its 239 souls on board is not expected, though, to start until August.

Quite an amazing rescue off the coast of Florida. A man and woman pulled from the ocean seven miles from shore after they treaded water for 14 hours. Shawn McGovern and Melissa Morris tell authorities they fell out of their boat near Key Largo early Friday evening. During their traumatic 14 hours, they were stung by jellyfish; apparently they were discovered with mild hypothermia. But all in all, the Coast Guard says they were very lucky. Part of the luck was the people that found them, the four guys that found them, two of them were detectives, one of them was a firefighter. So they had the right people found them at the right time.

BOLDUAN: 14 hours, unbelievable.

PEREIRA: I can't even imagine. Quite a tale they have to tell.

BOLDUAN: Absolutely right. All right, let's jump back down to Washington now. Let's get some Inside Politics on NEW DAY with John King. Hey there, John.

JOHN KING, CNN HOST, "INSIDE POLITICS": Kate and Michaela, happy Monday to you. We begin Inside Politics this morning with the subject you discussed with the president.

And with me this morning to share their reporting and their insights, Margaret Talev of Bloomberg News, Nia-Malika Henderson of the "Washington Post".

You know, Kate talked to the president. He's mulling his difficult options. As we watch the president mull his options in Iraq, there's a fascinating debate going on in the Republican Party. I want you to listen here. Here is one potential 2016 Republican candidate, Rand Paul, asked if there should be U.S. military action. He says, in a very personal way, not worth it.

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SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: You have to ask yourself, are you willing to send your son, am I send my son, to retake back a city, Mosul, that they weren't willing to defend themselves? I'm not willing to send my son into that mess. (END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: That's Rand Paul, freshman senator of Kentucky. Here is Marco Rubio, freshman senator from Florida, also a potential 2016 hopeful. He looks at this differently and in a much more muscular way.

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SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R), FLORIDA: For me, this is not about nation building or imposing democracy. This is a counterterrorism risk that we need to nip in the bud.

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KING: Such a fascinating divide in the Republican Party that's going to carry over throughout the next campaign.