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U.S. Supreme Court Rules Against White House on Senate Recess Appointments; Terrorist Group Threatens Baghdad; Interview with Iraq's Ambassador to U.S.; Team USA Loses to Germany, Advances
Aired June 27, 2014 - 07:00 ET
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ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Here's what he told our Nancy Grace.
NANCY GRACE, HLN HOST: Can you just tell me whether you have seen little Charlie yet?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have not.
GRACE: I know that's got to be breaking your heart. Why won't police let you see your boy? Where is he?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I'm breaking the no comment rule, but I was briefly on the phone with him when he called my mother, and I need to go now because I'm not listening to the --
GRACE: Charlie, I understand.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
FIELD: Earlier this week Bothuell was found in a basement. He was behind a barricade made of boxes and a 55-gallon container. Police say this 12-year-old could not have put up this barricade by himself. They say that he was excited when he saw police and he said he was hungry. The boy has been checked out by a team of child psychologists. He's being interviewed by investigators right now. Police say they have not ruled out child abuse but they won't comment on whether or not they are seeing any physical signs of abuse. What we do know is that investigators removed a PVC pipe from the home as well as bloody clothing. They say they want to talk to this 12-year- old boy again later today, the information they get from him will go to prosecutors who will decide whether or not there will be charges to file here. A lot to follow, Kate.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Absolutely, Alexandra, thank you very, very much. We'll continue to follow that.
Also this morning President Obama is in Minnesota making a pitch for his plan to help the middle class. This also comes a day after the Supreme Court handed down a unanimous decision against him saying the president violated the constitution with a series of recess appointments back in 2012. The ruling could have a wide-ranging impact of balance of power between White House and Congress, a lot of political fallout as well. Let's get to CNN's Athena Jones who is at the White House this morning. Athena, how is the White House reacting to this decision?
ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Kate. This was a closely watched case, and the White House is deeply disappointed in the Supreme Court's ruling. It's a blow to the president's plan to try to work around a Congress that he believes is bent on obstructing him.
BARACK OBAMA, (D) PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Hey, hello, Minneapolis.
JONES: President Obama fired up about the partisanship that has defined his term.
OBAMA: I'll be honest with you, you've got a party on the other side that -- whose only rationale, motivation seems to be opposing me. But, despite all that, we're making progress.
JONES: And White House efforts to get around the gridlock suffered a setback on Thursday with the Supreme Court's unanimous ruling against the administration on recess appointments.
JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: The decision today is -- it's a big defeat for President Obama.
JONES: The justices sided with Congress, saying that while the constitution allows the president to fill jobs temporarily during a recess without Congressional approval, he can't fill top government jobs when the senate says it's in session.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The senate will come to order.
JONES: To block these appointments, Republicans have been gaveling the senate in and out every three days during breaks, conducting no legislative business. The administration argued these weren't really sessions. The court disagreed. Justice Stephen Breyer saying "We hold that the senate is in session and not in recess when the senate says that it is in session."
Republicans applauded the decision.
MITCH MCCONNELL, (R-KY) SENATE MINORITY LEADER: It represents a clear, clear rebuke to the president's brazen power grab, a power grab I was bowed to lead the effort against.
SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY, (R) IOWA: President Obama's unconstitutional recess appointments are part of a pattern in which he thinks that if he cannot otherwise advance his agenda he can unilaterally thwart the law.
JONES: They have long accused the White House of overreach. House Speaker John Boehner is even threatening to sue the president over his use of executive action. The White House says President Obama is using his pen and his phone to get around the partisan obstructionism on Capitol Hill, and he's not going to stop.
JONES: Now Republicans clearly see this as a wing issue for them, this focus on what they see as presidential overreach, what some call an imperial presidency. So we can expect to see a lot more of this fight, especially since the White House says the president isn't going to back down when it comes to using his executive power. Chris?
CUOMO: All right, we'll following that, Athena, thank you very much, and have a good weekend.
So Iraq, the country is in distress, you know this. Human Rights Watch says new images suggest ISIS committed mass executions in the city of Tikrit after they took control. And now the Iraqi prime minister is saying they welcome Syria's airstrikes against extremists along their bothered, this as the country is readying for an election, so officials tell CNN the Obama administration is unlikely to engage in military strikes against extremists until after the formation of a new Iraqi government.
So here are the major questions -- can Iraq hold off is? Can they hold together as a nation? Joining us now from Washington is Iraq's ambassador to the U.S. Mr. Lukman Faily. Thank you very much for joining us, Mr. Faily. We appreciate it.
AMB. LUKMAN FAILY, IRAQ AMBASSADOR TO U.S.: Thank you for having me.
CUOMO: Let's deal with something that is urgent. We're hearing that Iraq is planning to buy secondhand jets and that the prime minister is saying you're doing this because it's too tough to get jets from the U.S. and the problem was air cover. Is it -- is it proper, is it right, is it fair for Iraq's prime minister to suggest that the U.S. hasn't been completely helpful to your country in preparing you for military exercise?
FAILY: Well, Chris, we have also a strategic framework agreement with the United States in which we talk about the integrity of Iraq being protected and we talk about cooperation in vast amount of areas, including security. In that sense we already have a long list of requests which we have been waiting for delivery for some time. As you may appreciate, the country faces an immediate threat to its integrity and therefore whomever is available to support us we will work on that.
CUOMO: But are you able to appreciate that when you look at this situation, if you're the prime minister say it's too hard to get the U.S.'s help when from the U.S. perspective we just watched your army, tens of thousands who have been given so much equipment and so much training, literally rip off their uniforms and run away when faced with the threat of ISIS. How do you explain that?
FAILY: We're looking at the structure of the army. There has been vast amount of changes, more to could. However, as you may appreciate, we have an immediate threat to the country. We need to work together for formation of government to take place. But as far as United States we appreciate all the help we have had. However, we are at an extreme difficult time. We need an immediate help to deal with an immediate threat.
CUOMO: But the reason you're facing an immediate threat on one level is because your army basically quit and ran when it was confronted. Where does the confidence come that Iraq can hold together and do what it needs to do to defend itself?
FAILY: We just had an election 60 percent of the people participated in. A formation of the government will start next week with parliament sitting in. So we're -- we're rebuilding a country based on a dictatorship, based on Saddam Hussein's ruled for long time. So we have a lot of challenges ahead. But we seek the United States as our strategic partner of choice. We expect the United States to support us. We appreciate that. But also, let me repeat it, we have an immediate threat. We don't have the luxury of waiting. We need support now.
CUOMO: But the choices matter. You raise a couple of very interesting issues to deal with, Mr. Ambassador. The first is the U.S. is your strategic partner of choice. Then why are you allowing Iran, of all countries, to have presence and military occupation inside your borders and Russia to move in? What kind of message do you think that sends to the United States, that you've now welcomed Syria, Iran, and Russia?
FAILY: The prime minister was clear we have not coordinated with the Syrians but we said if Syrian air force attacks ISIL, which is an enemy to both of us, a threat to the stability of the region, then that's welcomed. As far as Iranians, they don't have any forces on the ground. They have a risk themselves with ISIL being next to their border in the Diyala province. And as far as Russia is concerned we have a strategic framework with the United States. We have been asking for some time now for apache helicopters and others, and we have a threat. I think you appreciate that.
CUOMO: Absolutely. I have been there. We understand the fragility of the country and understand that it needs to hold together, but it's about the choices that are made and how they are perceived. And I know that when you're talking, we're still understanding this in the U.S. ISIS, or ISIL, it's all the same group that we're discussing with different names for it, but when you are saying we have an emergency situation, it's how you handle it, your army runs away. You invite in Russia and Iran. Those are very troubling signals to the United States. You can appreciate that, yes?
FAILY: We have invited United States, our partner of choice. We have over $10 billion awaiting approval. We have been seeking apache helicopters for a substantial amount of time now. So in a way we have already chosen the United States. We have not chosen others. But we have an immediate threat.
FAILY: We have an immediate need. We have an immediate question to the integrity of the state. Surely as a democratically elected government we have the responsibility to seek whomever is available to help us now.
CUOMO: Absolutely. And that's the second issue that you raise, a democratically elected government. There is clear criticism that the government does not reflect your population and is a big reason, a motivation, for the problem with ISIS. The Sunnis feel disenfranchised. They don't have the numbers in your government. They don't have the influence in your government. Do you think that the prime minister, Maliki, has to leave for there to be a confidence that Iraq can truly be a unified government?
FAILY: As you may appreciate, I'm a diplomat. I do not talk about who should be the next prime minister. That's up to the Iraqi parliament. We already have participation, high participation even from the Sunni part of Iraq or other Sunnis which you mentioned. Over 40 percent participated. We will have a reflective parliament next week. They are sitting. They will talk about the prime minister. If Prime Minister Maliki seeks a third term, he gets the support that's democratically. If not, if others, I will leave that to the parliamentarians and to the political process. We are now in democracy. We're developing, but we need an immediate help to deal with a regional threat and not just a domestic threat.
CUOMO: Right, but do you understand why the response of the U.S. is somewhat hesitant because of what you see on the ground there, that the army hasn't been doing what it needs to? And you can't really make the argument that the government right now is inclusive because it's very clear that the Sunnis feel disenfranchised and say it all the time. I mean, those are fair point, aren't they?
FAILY: A parliament is sitting in next week. The United States have already provided some advisers on the ground. They have provided some assistance in counterterrorism. This is all welcome. This is all good news. We need to work together. The threat is immediate. The threat is coming to the region. Iraq is an important country. The politics is developing, but, let me repeat. We have a threat now.
CUOMO: You have a threat now, but it is not a new threat. This is something that should have been seen coming.
FAILY: This is new.
CUOMO: People were telling you about the threat for months and months. You had the Kurdish leader who was saying trying to get Maliki to understand this. Other agencies had reached out to you and said you have to deal with this. I mean, doesn't Iraq have to own some responsibility for failure in the current situation?
FAILY: It is our fight. We have partnership with the United States. We have chosen the United States. The United States was there for over a decade, so they have better understanding of the terrain more than anybody else. We have both fought against terrorism. We have both shared in blood and treasure. I think we have the time, both need to work together. Others are providing help. Yesterday the British foreign minister was in Iraq and having that discussion. We seek international support. But the threat is a regional and a global threat, and it's not just within Iraq. CUOMO: You have the eyes and the ears of the American public right
now, ambassador. They spent a decade or more in your country. We've lost a lot of blood, a lot of families who are still dealing with trouble back here. The will for another fight for a country that doesn't seem to be fighting for itself is low here. What can you say to the American people?
FAILY: I think that's a bit unfair to say we don't fight for ourselves. For the last decade we suffered from terrorism more than anybody else. Americans more than anybody else knows that. So I think we need to work together. The threat we face, let's not forget, came in from Syria. That has an issue that hasn't been resolved for a few years now.
So we have an international threat. This is -- you guys fought against them in Afghanistan and elsewhere, so they are not homegrown within Iraq. This is an international terrorist organization. It is threatening everybody. We have jihadists from Europe and others who are fighting for their cause in Iraq. They will go back home and they may cause damage back home. So let's look at the situation realistically. Let's learn from the lessons, but let's work together.
CUOMO: Mr. Ambassador, thank you very much. We'll all be watching the outcome of the elections very closely, and hopefully it does present a unified Iraq. Thank you for joining us on NEW DAY.
FAILY: Thank for having me.
CUOMO: Michaela, a lot of other news, this morning, right over to you.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: There certainly is. It's 14 minutes past the hour. Here's a look at your headlines. Russian President Vladimir Putin issuing what may be his most definitive statement yet on bringing peace to Ukraine. Putin reportedly called for a complete termination of bloodshed in all of Ukraine, including along their borders, and emphasized the need for a lasting ceasefire. In the meantime, four members of an international monitoring team were released by pro-Russian fighters reportedly as some sort goodwill gesture. Another four are still being held.
A major reversal, meanwhile, in U.S. policy towards Syria. President Obama says it's time to send aid to the Syrian rebels. The White House asking Congress to approve $500 million to help train and arm moderate rebel groups. This request comes amid increasing concern that the civil war is spilling into Iraq and could further destabilize the region.
A change in military policy, the Obama administration has announced it will start to phase out the U.S. stockpile of land mines. This announcement was made at a conference of international treaty banning mines. Eliminating mines will allow the U.S. to join 161 other nations in the 15-year-old agreement. Estimates put the U.S. stockpile of mines at more than 10 million.
Former Tennessee Senator Howard Baker is being remembered for his ability to reach across the aisle. Known as the great conciliator, Baker served as both majority and minority leader and White House chief of staff. As ranking Republican on the Watergate committee, Baker famously ask, "What did the president know and when did he know it?"
He died at his home just days after suffering a stroke. Howard Baker was 88 years old.
Police removed actor Shia LaBeouf from a Broadway musical last night. The NYPD says "The Transformer" star was drunk and disruptive while watching a performance of "Cabaret." He was charged with criminal trespass and disorderly conduct. Members of the audience said they thought his outburst was an act. The 28-year-old is expected to appear before a judge this morning.
It's one way to start your weekend.
BOLDUAN: There you go.
CUOMO: I support the Beef. Is that what his means Shia LaBeouf, the beef? I think it's French.
I support him. He seems like he's in trouble.
BOLDUAN: I'm sure he's a good person.
CUOMO: So, you know, when I see the celebrities, they start to get hunted by the paparazzi and the entertainment media, I support him.
PEREIRA: He was in a theater. It wasn't the paparazzi chasing him around. It's in the theater.
CUOMO: I know. But, you know, who knows what really happens.
PEREIRA: That's a very good point. We don't know.
CUOMO: Give him some support and give the guy a chance.
PEREIRA: All right, done.
BOLDUAN: I'm moving on.
Coming up next on NEW DAY, Team USA shattering expectations and moving on to round two of the World Cup. But what can we expect from their next opponent, Belgium. A look ahead. We go to Brazil.
BOLDUAN: Alive and well. Team USA will live to play another day in the World Cup despite losing to Germany 1-0, and they have Portugal to thank just days after a stunning draw. It was the Portuguese team that helped the U.S. advance after defeating Ghana 2-1.
Team USA receiving a big congrats from President Obama as well.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: I have to begin by congratulating our U.S. soccer team, Team USA, for advancing, next round of the World Cup. We --
OBAMA: We -- USA!
CROWD: USA, USA, USA!
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BOLDUAN: And the real test, the team is in a must-win situation facing Belgium in the single elimination round of 16.
CNN's Lara Baldesarra joins us from Recife, Brazil, a much prettier picture behind you today, Lara, I must say.
LARA BALDESARRA, CNN SPORTS: Oh, yes, but now, it's extremely hot. I say bring back some rain now.
BOLDUAN: You're not happy no matter what you get in your conditions in Brazil. Just kidding.
So, let's talk about this big game. When it was raining cats and dogs, when the U.S. took on Germany. How did the U.S. look in that game? We know Germany is a great team, formidable opponent. How did the U.S. look in that game and what do you think it says about Tuesday?
BALDESARRA: Well, I would say that it wasn't the USA's best game so far of the World Cup, but I don't think it was completely horrible. I would say that it was a tale of two halves though. The first half, to me, the USA did a lot better. Very tactically astute team. They all hold their positions very, very well.
And, you know, Michael Bradley, he's come under a lot of criticism. A lot of people saying he's not really performing at his best right now. But to me, in the first half, he was involved pretty much in every play and every buildup. He was all over the pitch and he was really working.
So, I was quite impressed with him. Also, Kyle Beckerman, he ended up being the man of the match and, once again, Beckerman just continues to dazzle. This guy is just -- he's defensively so aware of what's happening. He's just a brick wall. He breaks down plays.
I really like the way that he looked and the way that they are playing. Now, on Tuesday is when they play Belgium, and it could be pretty interesting match, Kate. BOLDUAN: So, tell me about why -- I mean, it will be interesting
regardless because everyone is endlessly fascinated with how the U.S. is doing in the World Cup. But what do we know about the Belgium team?
BALDESARRA: OK. Well, this is a Belgium team that is very, very young. Their average age is just 26 years old and this team is really truly made up of future superstars. Now right now, it might be a little early for some of these guys. They haven't fully come into their own like Eden Hazard. This is a player on Belgium's team that is some people are comparing to Lionel Messi and you don't have to follow soccer to know that Messi is the best player in the world.
Now, those comparisons, all of that, it just tells you it's going to be a very difficult match for the USA. Belgium is a very quick team. They're very physical team. They are a very defensively sound team.
Kate, they haven't conceded a goal -- only conceded one goal at this point through three matches. That was actually on a penalty kick. So, the USA are really going to have to depend on their strikers an maybe even Captain America, Clint Dempsey, to find a goal to real be able to move on because now in the round of 16, there's no question. You have to win to progress. None of this losing to Germany and still being able to get through. It's win and move on.
BOLDUAN: So, it really does show you that they could really use Jozy Altidore back on the team, but it doesn't look like he's going to be taking the field with them. What do you think? How do you think it's going to look on Tuesday? Are you 50/50? Where's your prediction?
BALDESARRA: Well, first of all, I have to say that I'm actually kind of happy that Jozy Altidore might not be back.
BALDESARRA: I don't think that he's going to suit this game very well. I just think that this is more of a midfield type of game that's going to depend on the midfield, not so much the strikers and Jozy Altidore, he's coming off a pretty bad year. He was always kind a question for me as to why he was really selected for this team anyway.
But that aside, my prediction for this match I think it's going to be very tight, very close. I am saying a late goal by the USA to win 1- 0, and I'm sure you'll hold me to that if I get it wrong.
BOLDUAN: Of course I will, and I will also congratulate you when you get it right. Let's think positively as we head into the weekend, right?
BALDESARRA: You better.
BOLDUAN: Exactly. Thank you, Lara.
BOLDUAN: Enjoy the weather. It's not raining and your hair looks great.
BOLDUAN: All right. Chris?
CUOMO: Kate is sending me down there just to keep her accountable and I will take that very seriously.
Coming up on NEW DAY, from dead broke to seriously rich. The Clintons have said they have done quite well since leaving the Oval Office, begs the question how well? One newspaper added it up and came up with an eye-popping number. You'll want to hear it, and we will tell you.
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CUOMO: All right. It is time for "Inside Politics" on NEW DAY with Mr. John King.
Unseemly, that's a word I don't think I'll ever hear you use, but it has been used and to great effect in the current political dialogue. Am I right?
JOHN KING, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You are right, sir. TGIF, happy Friday for "Inside Politics."
BOLDUAN: One time. It can always happen.
KING: A very busy morning. Let's get straight to it with me this morning to share their report and insight. Jackie Kucinich of "The Washington Post", Olivier Knox of Yahoo News.
Let's start with the president of the United States did an interview with George Stephanopoulos of ABC News. He's been criticized by some Republicans saying the reason more than 50,000 young kids have come to the border and tried to get into the United States illegally, sent by their parents from Guatemala and Honduras, some Republicans have suggested there's an open border policy and the president hasn't been tough enough.
Listen to these tough words here.
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OBAMA: Our message is absolutely don't send your children unaccompanied on trains or through a bunch of smugglers.