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USA Loses World Cup Match to Belgium; Protesters Against Recent Immigration Demonstrate at Border; Lisa Sendrow Talks Sexual Assault on College Campuses

Aired July 2, 2014 - 07:00   ET

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ALINA MACHADO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's very dangerous out there because of the threat of rip currents. And that's a threat that we're not only going to see here but also along the East Coast as Arthur continues to make its way close to shore. Michaela?

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, thank you so much. We'll take it back here in New York. Where exactly is Arthur going? We want to track the progress and track its movements with Indra Petersons, our meteorologist. A lot of people are keeping a wary eye on this, as they should.

INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: They definitely should. We're talking about a system developing very early in the season. Let's talk about it. Right now you can see it's formed into a tropical storm and a strong tropical storm at that, currently seeing those steady winds at about 60 miles per hour. Once it hits about 39 miles per hour, that's what makes it a tropical storm, but this morning continuing to strengthen. Now the latest model saying that this guy is expected to be a category one hurricane as early as tomorrow just off the coast of the Carolinas.

It does have a chance that it could make landfall. Most of the models bring it just barely offshore of masthead. But notice the cone of uncertainty. There is a chance again we could see that impact right there and then quickly by the time we get into the Fourth of July it gets into the flow of the jet stream and curves quicker and stays south basically of New York City and New England. And thereafter that's where it hits those cooler waters, a little bit of wind shear and we'll see it dissipate to a remnant. All of that happens by about Saturday.

So, where is the heaviest rainfall? Offshore, since it's remaining offshore, so about eight inches of rain will be right offshore. But on the coastline itself, around Florida, about one to two inches of rain. Remember, it starts to hug the coastline. You'll see more rainfall when it gets closer to Georgia and South Carolina, and especially where it has the potential, right out towards the outer banks. You could see about three to five inches of rain when it does get really close to that immediate coastline. That's one side of the equation.

We have storm surge as well, some warm water new need to add to it, one to two feet around Florida. But again, as it makes its way closer, three to five feet of water is possible with storm surge around the Carolinas. As far as timing, we know it's off the coast of Florida today in through tomorrow. It strengthens to that category one hurricane and really proceeds into the northeast. A lot of questions about this. Yes, it stays south of the northeast, but there's a cold front there so the combination of the two will bring a threat for heavy rainfall into the northwest, or northeast, I should say as well, Kate.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Keep moving east. That's all we can hope for right now. Thank you so much, Indra.

Let's get back down to Brazil, though, where Chris is. Chris, what an amazing night and what an amazing performance by Tim Howard. And you had such a great conversation with him.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Kate, it was great to have him here on the show, Tim Howard, the man of the match. You may notice I have a one on my chest. It symbolizes a number of things, unfortunately, the number of goals the U.S. scored, also represents the unity that we saw here at the World Cup, the idea of one nation, one team that America has really embraced when it comes to U.S. soccer I'd say more than at any time in my lifetime. And of course, it's Tim Howard's number.

Let's bring in Lara Baldesarra. She's been the man of the match for us here taking us through the World Cup, the anchor, of course, of "WORLD SPORT" on CNN International. So his play last night, you've been helping me throughout the game. I got to sit very close to the U.S. goal in the first half. I felt like he was doing something unusual. Was it obvious?

LARA BALDESARRA, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It was obvious. Tim Howard, he was playing superhuman last night. But even though he's super human, we've been talking about his play, I want to mention something that's very human about him. This is a guy that deals with Tourette's Syndrome and has actually done -- has done a number of charitable works with children who are struggling with Tourette's Syndrome. So I just want to mention that because he's quite the giver back, the humanitarian, and yet he has been able to just simply keep the USA -- he kept them alive throughout the match last night, and you can't say enough about his performance. It was so impressive.

CUOMO: And also it speaks to how he's not that limitation of his syndrome.

BALDESARRA: Exactly.

CUOMO: And it's important for people to have it and important for awareness, and now he'll have even more reach because the guy is being called Captain America. He's in Wikipedia as secretary of defense. And when is the last time if ever a U.S. soccer player was real like a celebrity in sport of the highest order overnight?

BALDESARRA: That's incredible. It's quite the incredible story. And this now allows him like you said to have more outreach and give back even more, and there's more charitable giving, which I always think is important to mention. He is now the superstar. He's going to be the face of American soccer, but now the question is, is that going to be for very much longer?

CUOMO: You kicked aside my suggestion. I tried to hit him with like the penetrating question. You smacked it aside like a weak shot.

BALDESARRA: He's going to be 39 years old in the next World Cup.

CUOMO: But he's built like twisted steel. He's on top of his game.

BALDESARRA: He's a little old, but the USA has a number of young players, future players.

CUOMO: Saw a couple shine last night.

BALDESARRA: We did, certainly. This was a team built on the future of them. Now DeAndre Yedlin, he was one of those guys.

CUOMO: He's a favorite of mine, speedy.

BALDESARRA: A huge favorite, yes. And after the match I asked him, I said what was it -- what is it like to know that you are the future of American soccer? And listen to what he had to say to this.

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DEANDRE YEDLIN, U.S. SOCCER PLAYER: If that's the title, then that will be great, but there's obviously, you know, some amazing players coming through in Jon Brooks and Julian and Aaron and Micks, so I'm excited for what the future holds for us.

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BALDESARRA: He is just 20 years old. He actually grew up with his grandparents and came through the Seattle youth system, so it shows that the MLS is really growing. We're talking a lot about the growth of American soccer and it's starting within the American soccer league. He's just one of those young players.

CUOMO: Julian Green, who scored last night.

BALDESARRA: He's another amazing youngster. You can just see his touch, his first touch on the ball, he has such technical awareness, such a gifted player. He's just 19 careers old.

CUOMO: He's 19, first World Cup performance, first time he touches the ball in the match he scores.

BALDESARRA: It was unreal, unreal. The world said hello, Julian Green. This is a guy we can be excited about in 2018. He was a big score for Jurgen Klinsmann because Klinsmann really had to woo him so he did not sign -- not decide to play with Germany. And a lot of people said he was offered a spot for the future. The future began last night.

CUOMO: And to be honest, this game could have been over in regular time very easily with Belgium up maybe three, maybe four. They were obviously the more talented side at this point. Even I saw that. Their roster is stacked with premier league, the top league players. So this is not a surprise on that level.

BALDESARRA: No, not at all. This was -- this was what was expected, and the USA just really held themselves in this game so well against them.

CUOMO: And the bigger victory, as far as I'm concerned, and I really do not believe it's a hedge. They didn't get it done on the field. They should be angry about that. They missed opportunities. The big names didn't show up the way they needed to. But the impact back home, the fact that my kids went out outside after the match and kicked around a soccer ball and dreamed of being the next Tim Howard, that's huge and shouldn't be underestimated in terms of the impact of success at the World Cup, in my humble opinion, with my big one of gap tape on.

Lara Baldesarra, we'll be back with you. Thank you for teaching us the game in Brazil. Back to you in New York. One stands for many things.

BOLDUAN: Definitely. A very subtle, very subtle addition to the outfit today.

PEREIRA: I felt that was a nod to me, Chris, saying that you understood why I said Belgium was a threat. I was not concerned about the U.S. I was just merely saying, like he said, they were scary.

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BOLDUAN: We'll get back to you, Chris. Lara, good luck with him.

We're going to turn now to the big news we're watching this morning, to the crisis in Iraq, one of those big stories. The leader of ISIS is calling on Muslim extremists around the world to join his cause. He wants them to help build up the Islamic state that he declared just a few days ago. This comes as more deadly clashes are reported outside Baghdad where hundreds more U.S. military forces are on the ground.

Let's turn to Barbara Starr who is at the Pentagon for us as always with much more. Good morning, Barbara.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Kate. Here at the Pentagon officials insist this is not mission creep. This is not escalation of force. But let's have a reality check. Three times, three times in the last two weeks the U.S. has now increased the number of forces in Iraq to deal with this crisis. It's now somewhere north of 750 and perhaps more on the way.

The reality is the center of gravity for the U.S. now is Baghdad international airport. Why? Because ISIS fighting positions are just northwest of the airport. The U.S. has put troops there, officially saying they are there to protect U.S. facilities at the airport, but with is so close by, every military official I've spoken to privately says that the job now is to make sure the airport remains open and secure.

Why is that? Because if ISIS makes a move on the airport, makes a move on Baghdad, the only way out for thousands of Americans in Baghdad working at the embassy is to be evacuated through the airport by the U.S. military.

So there's a lot going on behind the scenes here. A lot of reality behind some of the talk that we officially hear from the administration. But who have we not heard from can be a very interesting question. Since all of this began, we've not heard publicly yet from Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel or the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey. So far they have not come out to talk about this, to talk about why U.S. troops are there and to explain it to both the troops and to U.S. military families. Kate?

BOLDUAN: That's obviously something the military families will be hoping to hear from next, very, very soon, someone they want to hear from very, very soon. Barbara, thanks very much. We'll get back to you.

But later today, border patrol is expected to bring a group of undocumented immigrant families to a processing center in central California. They are being transferred to relieve overcrowding at border facilities in Texas. This comes, as you can see here, after protests actually blocked three buses from arriving at a federal facility in Marietta, California. Stephanie Elam has much more on this story.

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CROWD: USA! USA!

STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Chants of "USA" gave way to a heated shouting match outside of a U.S. border patrol facility in southern California.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are not born here. They are not born here. Go back to Mexico.

ELAM: Holding signs that said "return to sender" and "stop illegal immigration," about 100 protesters blocked the road as three busloads of undocumented migrants approached the center where the immigrants, detained in Texas and then flown to California, would be processed by customs and border patrol.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are obstructing the roadway.

ELAM: The move is an attempt to ease the badly strained border patrol efforts in Texas.

ELLEN MEEKS, PROTESTING THE MIGRANTS ARRIVAL: I just wish America would be America again because it's not, and it's just not pointed to the Hispanics. It's everybody needs to go through the legal ways.

ELAM: Ron Zermeno is a border patrol agent here as well as a union official. He says processing migrants instead of enforcing the borders is only making the situation worse.

RON ZERMENO, BORDER PATROL AGENT: The cartels are taking advantage of these people that are coming across. The smugglers are directing them, saying go to that border patrol agent on that hill and turn yourself in. As soon as they see the agents occupied with a group of 20, 30 people, the smugglers are then running their illicit drugs and they're running around it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Send them back.

ENRIQUE MORONES, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, BORDER ANGELS: If these children were from Canada, we would not be having this interview.

ELAM: But Enrique Morones argues this is a humanitarian issue as these families, some with young children, flee violence in their native countries.

MORONES: Their parents have had enough. They are saying if I don't send my child north they are going to die. They're sending their children north. Let's welcome them here in California. Let's show the world that we really know how to treat our children.

ELAM: Unable to pass, the buses eventually backed down the street and headed to another facility about an hour and a half away, gone from here for now, but still in the United States. The next 140 immigrants are expected to arrive on July Fourth.

Stephanie Elam, CNN, Marietta, California.

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PEREIRA: Stephanie, thanks for that report. Seriously a mess down at the border right now. We'll keep watching the story. Let's give you meanwhile a look at more of your headlines. Violence erupting in Jerusalem, boiling over this morning, our CNN crew got caught in the crossfire. Take a look.

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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm going to spin the camera around very, very briefly here. Oh, excuse me. There's a lot of police trying to disperse us here. Sorry for all that noise, but it seems like they just let off a stun grenade near us. As you can see, Israeli police trying to disperse residents here who are very angry.

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PEREIRA: Certainly a dramatic moment there. As you heard, that was a stun grenade going off near our correspondent Atika Shubert and her crew. They are safe, we should let you know.

The outrage was sparked by the discovery of a body overnight in a wooded area in Jerusalem. Police are looking to see whether it was retaliation for the abduction and murder of three Israeli teenagers. The three were laid to rest Tuesday with a commitment from Israel's leaders to avenge their deaths at the hands of terrorists.

The alleged leader of the 2012 attack on U.S. mission in Benghazi is expected in court today. Ahmed Abu Khattala will appear for a detention hearing in Washington, D.C. He's been charged in the attack that killed ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. Prosecutors say they expect to add other charges against Khattala as their investigation continues.

Score a victory for the NSA. The Independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight board says the spy agency's program targeting people overseas isn't just legal but that it also works. But the board did find that some parts of the program are borderline unconstitutional by gathering e-mails and phone calls from Americans communicating with foreign targets. Privacy advocates have slammed the program since Edward Snowden revealed it.

That's a look at your headline at 13 minutes past the hour. This morning is taking long, isn't it, Kate?

BOLDUAN: It sure is. There's a lot going on.

Coming up next on NEW DAY, the woman targeted in a controversial column about sexual assault, she is speaking out. She is a survivor herself and she's outraged. Her message about sexual assault on college campuses, and also her message for that man, George Will, the writer of that column.

PEREIRA: And INSIDE POLITICS, look at this, a check from President Obama made out to the U.S. treasury. Why does the American president think he owes the government money?

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BOLDUAN: Welcome back. The woman at the center of an incendiary column written by conservative writer George Will, she's speaking out. Last month, Will wrote that being a rape and sexual assault victim is a, quote, "coveted status on college campuses" that comes with, quote, "privileges." He pointed out this woman's story of sexual assault clearly to dismiss her claims. The column sparked outrage and a lot of debate, many saying that Will was trivializing sexual assault.

Well, joining us now is Lisa Sendrow. She's the woman Will referenced in her column -- in his column and she's speaking out to NEW DAY in her first TV interview.

Lisa, thank you very much for being here.

LISA SENDROW, SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVOR: Thank you for having me.

BOLDUAN: As we were just talking, this is not an easy topic to discuss but an important one to discuss.

What was your reaction when you read George Will's column? You didn't know that was coming, I'm sure?

SENDROW: No. At first I tried to avoid it, but I had many Facebook friends sent me the article. I was of course outraged. He made so many grotesque remarks about sexual assault, dismissing not only my claims but essentially using that as a way to dismiss all sexual assault claims, diminishing what it looks like on college campuses, as if it doesn't exist. And that was extremely upsetting for me to read.

BOLDUAN: I mean, it went from you telling your story to "Philadelphia" magazine in order to highlight problems in college campuses to really you being forced into a national debate, whether you wanted to be part of it or not. What did it feel like personally to read those words in a syndicated column?

SENDROW: It was awful, just because sexual assault is triggering. I'm really glad I had this opportunity to talk about it right now, just because this is such an important issue. There's so much people on college campuses who are triggered every single day. So many people who are diagnosed with PTSD. So many people who don't come forward and are afraid to talk because of things like what Will is saying, that this doesn't exist, that this is a privilege for us to be sexually assaulted. And this isn't a privilege for anybody, so I was enraged. I --

BOLDUAN: Lisa, did you even know of him before this came out?

SENDROW: Not really. I don't really watch a lot of TV or read a lot of articles right now. But I --

BOLDUAN: So one of the things he said, as I was saying, the way he described in the column -- he used your story but he also described victims on college campuses as having a coveted status, and that that status offers privileges. And he's just essentially suggesting that that brings forth more victims, that victims will proliferate on college campuses. Why is he wrong?

SENDROW: For many reasons. The main reason for me being that so many people are afraid to report. I have met many brave men and women, people of all genders, who have come forward to me and are so afraid to go forward with reporting or investigations because they're afraid of how schools will react. Especially being on Swarthmore's campus, it's such a small school, no one wants to be -- have any sort of retaliation. I didn't come forward for that reason. I didn't want to go into my dining hall, or one dining hall, and see his friends or anyone I knew talking about me or saying anything to me.

And that's the same way it is for a lot of people. And for the same reason -- they don't want to be exposed or called a liar or have their stories diminished.

BOLDUAN: And your story, he uses it as an example to dismiss your story. You say that he got it wrong. How did he get it wrong?

SENDROW: so I didn't give a lot of details for this story. It was for the "Philadelphia" magazine and the purpose of that article was to talk about the problems that sexual -- that Swarthmore College was having with reporting and investigating sexual assault.

BOLDUAN: You're saying he didn't understand and "Philadelphia" magazine didn't understand what really happened.

SENDROW: Right. I wasn't giving all the details of what happened, and I felt like even the article, the original article, somewhat dismissed my claims in a way. It made me seem more readable for regular viewers or regular readers.

But it wasn't that way -- I gave little details because I didn't feel like I needed to validate myself. I just wanted to be focused on what the school was doing wrong and how we could fix it for other survivors so they could come forward and not be afraid at the school.

BOLDUAN: You didn't feel the need to have to relive it.

SENDROW: Right, exactly.

BOLDUAN: What this kind of gets to is a question of is this about men and women thinking about the issue of sexual assault differently? Reacting to the issue of sexual assault differently? What do you think? What needs to be change? You've been, for better or worse, I would -- I'm sure for worse. This doesn't feel like a privilege to you, for sure, no pun intended. You've been forced into this conversation. What need to change?

SENDROW: I mean, rape culture needs to change.

So there's this one idea that always comes to my mind is that people need to avoid being sexually assaulted when really the conversation needs to turn to how we can teach people not to sexually assault. If you're saying no, you mean no. If you're not saying yes, you don't mean yes. So I don't understand why that's so hard for people to conceive, or why it's so hard to understand that sexual assault doesn't need to be in a back alley and you're raped by some sort of stranger.

Sexual assault can happen to anybody; it can happen at any point. It can happen by friends or family members. Boyfriends, girlfriends, anybody can sexually assault or be sexually assaulted. And the way that he framed it made it seemed like it's women who are crying and don't have any sort of reason to be crying.

And that's not the way it is. There are so many women out there, many men who are out there, who are triggered. And I don't understand why he doesn't see that. Like, someone came forward who he knew extremely well saying that this happened to me and I was afraid and I don't want to go outside anymore. I don't want to go to class anymore. How would he react to that?

BOLDUAN: With all of that in mind, why did you want to go public with your story? Because the national spotlight can be a bright one and can be a mean one.

SENDROW: Yes, I've already encountered a lot of those comments.

I'm tired of being afraid, honestly. People need to come forward and start supporting sexual assault causes or prevention causes. It's important for me; it's important for many people out there. There's so many college students who don't want to go to class anymore, who are -- their grades are getting lower. They have -- they're losing friends. They're just depressed all the time. And with the expectations that you have for yourself and your academics, it's really hard when you're sexually assaulted.

BOLDUAN: You should know. You reported your sexual assault. There really has not been follow-up after the fact.

What would you like to see happen to George Will? If not -- like you have the power, of course, but one newspaper has dropped his column, but it seems by and large this has blown over. It became a discussion and the discussion has largely gone quiet. What would you like to see happen?

SENDROW: Well, I want to see this discussion continue, of course, but more specifically with George Will. He's entitled to his opinions and I don't think that sexual assault should be politicized argument or a discussion. It shouldn't be an argument at all. Sexual assault happens and everyone should accept that and everyone should be there to support the survivors and victims of sexual assault.

I just want George Will to recognize that, that there are people out there who have feelings and who are hurt and who are triggered and traumatized every day, who can be touched and not realize that this is going to hurt them in the future, or that they make any sort of movement and it reminds them of what has happened in the past. I just want him to recognize that at the very least, and he's entitled to his opinions, of course.

BOLDUAN: Would you like to meet him? Has he reached out to you?

SENDROW: He has not.

BOLDUAN: Would you like to have a conversation?

SENDROW: I mean, if he wants to have that conversation, I'd be willing to have it with him.

BOLDUAN: Thank you for having the conversation with me.

SENDROW: Thank you so much for having me.

BOLDUAN: Thank you, Lisa. Good luck.

Michaela?

PEREIRA: Bravely speaking ou. , Lisa, well done. I know that was hard.

We're going to take a short break on NEW DAY. When we come back, we're going to take you INSIDE POLITICS. Mitt Romney is back on the campaign trail. We'll find out what the former Republican candidate is up to in New Hampshire today.

Today in Brazil there are a few long faces but overall the U.S. feeling very good about their showing in the World Cup. Right, Chris? CUOMO: Not mine. I'll tell you. We came up short on this

scoreboard, Mick, but in truth there were so many victories to be celebrated for U.S. soccer. We're going to take you deep inside what happened just over my shoulder last night. And don't forget Tim Howard, man of the match. The new Captain America. There's a petition at the White House to rename Reagan National Airport after him. What?

Yes, and he's one of the reasons I have a 1 on my chest. We'll discuss it all coming up in this show. We'll give you the latest and the greatest. Back to you.

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