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Arthur is Now A Hurricane; June Jobs Report Forecast; Town Becomes Flashpoint in Border Crisis; U.S. Increasing Flight Security on Some International Flights; Hatteras Island Undergoes Mandatory Evacuation

Aired July 3, 2014 - 06:30   ET



MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Good to have you back with us on NEW DAY.

You saw right there we're following breaking news. Arthur is now a hurricane, a category one hurricane bringing with it dangerous 75- mile-an-hour winds. Arthur is headed straight for North Carolina's outer banks, and that's where we find our Indra Petersons.

Indra, it's kind of the proverbial calm before the storm. Looks beautiful there, but we know what is coming.

INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Michaela, you nailed it. This is one of those eerie days where I think about years ago, before technology, people here would have no clue a storm was brewing. I mean, the seas generally calm, maybe a couple clouds in the sky, but we do have technology and we know Arthur is now a category 1 hurricane, 113 miles off the coast of Charleston, South Carolina.

If you actually look at the radar you can see the outer bands already making their impact, and it's expected to move north about 9 miles per hour now is its movement. So, overnight tonight, in through tomorrow morning, here on the outer banks, we do have the threat for landfall. That's the concern here. Then, directly after that, it's expected to quickly make its way off towards the Northeast, staying south of the area.

But if you look at the farthest western portion of the track, we could see an impact there towards Cape Cod on Friday evening. It continues off to the north by Saturday, likely to hit Halifax as a remnant low.

So, so much to consider. There's always warnings out here. We're talking from Dodge City or Surf City, all the way down to dock warnings already in effect. In fact, we already have mandatory evacuations in place here in the outer banks, out towards Hatteras Island.

Now, let's talk about what's expected. You're talking about two to four inches of rain right where there's the impact. Remember, it's supposed to have that impact right during high tide. So, we're going to have to add additional water, including a storm surge of two to four feet and waves, 10 to 20-foot waves out here. It's beautiful now, but we know it's not going to stay this way for long.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: That's absolutely right. Indra, thanks so much. We'll get back to you as soon as possible.

Right now, we're looking at jobs. In two hours, the June jobs report will be released by the Labor Department. Coming out a day earlier than normal, why? The Independence Day holiday and looks to be a promising one.

Let's get over to chief business correspondent Christine Romans for the latest. Christine, what are you expecting?

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: You know, we're expecting it could be a strong report, and here's why -- 200,000 jobs added. That's a CNN Money forecast. Unemployment rate holding steady at 6.3 percent, and it's so interesting when you look here at trend you can see. We've had several months now with about 200,000 jobs created. You want to see that continue.

Even though things were pretty rough in the winter, the economy really slowed down we think the jobs market is saying things are stronger and strengthening into the spring and summer. When you look at the trend on the unemployment rate, it has been falling and falling, now the lowest since 2008 at 6.3 percent.

You might see the unemployment rate tick up in the months ahead as more people are now hearing that the economy is getting a little bit better and trying to come into the labor market. It could tick up a little bit but you want to see these numbers will continue to decline.

Here's what the numbers look like since the recession and big financial crisis. The jobless rate really spiked in 2009 and this is the trend as we've been coming lower, you want to see that continue.

The risk I think today you guys is a stronger report than we think. We had a private sector report yesterday that said 281,000 private sector jobs were created in the month. If you saw numbers like that, it would be a sure sign that companies are starting to hire. Small companies, big companies as well and they are starting to see the economy pick up and the need to add workers. So, we'll watch very, very closely, for all that have comes out in two hours, you guys.

BOLDUAN: A lot to look at today. All right, Christine, we'll get right back to you.

Coming up next on new day, immigration protesters. Let's look at the video -- demonstrators, they're turning away buses of undocumented immigrants. What can the president do to address the new immigration crisis? Our political panel will debate.

PEREIRA: Also, flights bound for the U.S. are going to be facing some extra tight security. We'll tell you what prompted Homeland Security to reach out to U.S. allies for some assistance.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is costing us out of our pockets, use the word illegal aliens. They came across here illegally.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If I break the law, you're going to come down on me real quick, and yet you are not following the law. You are breaking the law.


BOLDUAN: You can see it right there -- anger at a town hall last night.

Residents of Murrieta, California, protesting the transfer of detained migrants from overwhelmed Texas facilities. That dramatic scene really played out after another dramatic scene, flag-waving protesters turning away buses full of detained migrants, mostly women and children from reaching a federal processing center.

Let's discussed this and the political ramifications of it with Margaret Hoover, CNN political commentator, Republican consultant, and John Avlon, CNN political analyst and editor-in-chief of "The Daily Beast" and here in the title as well, best-looking couple in television.

Great. Thanks, guys.

So, let me play one more sound bite for you. This is the mayor of Murrieta I think really capturing the frustration of what officials down there, what everyone is dealing with down there in Murrieta. Take a listen to this.


MAYOR ALAN LONG, MURRIETA, CALIFORNIA: Immigration happens every day in Murrieta. We have a border patrol office right here in Murrieta. We're not protesting that. What we're protesting is the product of a broken system that finally reached the doorsteps of our community.


BOLDUAN: You have that coming from the mayor. You got a town hall filled with furious people. You got people stopping border patrol from doing their job, trying to get these buses through.


BOLDUAN: Is this a boiling point? What is going on?

AVLON: Look, we're hitting the height of summer, and frankly when the heat rises, the local passions tend to rise, one of the reasons why we see town halls hijacked at different recent points in our history.

But let's deal with a sense of prospective. First of all, it's important to recognize that concern about illegal migration and porous border does not necessarily equate opposition to immigration. At the same time, we have a history in this country of people waving flags and protesting immigrants, and when that happens it's usually been a bad chapter in the history.

So, this is a flashpoint moment right now and this is a real important conflict.


AVLON: Well, thank you.

HOOVER: There is something very, very seriously wrong going on at the border. It's almost like the floodgates came loose. Something is happening in Central America, in El Salvador and Guatemala whereby coyotes and drug cartels are taking advantage of impoverished people telling them if they send their children to the United States, their children are going to become citizens.

The floodgates are off, and our immigration border patrol system simply doesn't have the capacity to deal with it, and that's why it's at the point. It's not like this is the normal trickle of immigration across our porous border. There is something quite unusual happening here that we simply aren't dealing with, and it is very -- I don't think it's an overstatement to call this a humanitarian crisis.

You are finding decomposed bodies of children crossing the border, and you're only able to sort of track down their parents because they have written the phone number of a relative in Chicago inside their belt.

BOLDUAN: Where is the anger to be directed toward? That's the question, because right now, they are angry at the buses that are trying to get to the processing facilities.

AVLON: Right.

BOLDUAN: But the officials, they are lawmakers. People in Washington, their representatives who represent their districts, they're not doing anything about immigration.

HOOVER: There is a fix here. There is a solution.

AVLON: Good.

BOLDUAN: I'm ready for the breaking news banner right now.

HOOVER: We have laws that deal with how to handle children that have crossed the border from come from a contiguous border, from Canada, or Mexico, within 48 hours, you call their parents and find the relative in the home country and send them back. If they are not from a contiguous country, El Salvador, Guatemala, you have an entirely different set of protocols that you have to follow. And that's what's plugging up the system because we don't have the resources to deal with finding lawyers for all of them.

BOLDUAN: The president is proposing changing that rule. AVLON: Right.

HOOVER: And we should.

BOLDUAN: And he's asking for $2 billion of emergency money and pushing forward with executive order. Is that enough?

AVLON: No. It's not sufficient but it's necessary.

BOLDUAN: Why aren't we doing this by unanimous consent?

AVLON: Because Congress is generally opposed to anything that President Obama backs, as we've seen, but those steps are absolutely necessary to stemming the tide what. What really needs to be done is comprehensive immigration reform, which was back by the Senate a year ago and heroically (ph) in the House.

BOLDAUN: Do you believe, John.

HOOVER: That's not going to happen.

AVLON: Why not?


AVLON: We're facing --

HOOVER: No, no, Congress has failed us. You are absolutely right. Congress has failed us and we should expect that of our elected representatives, but you and I both know immigration reform is dead until there's another president or another Congress.

ALVON: I don't buy that.


BOLDUAN: Why, why isn't it a humanitarian crisis?

HOOVER: It is.

BOLDUAN: That should motivate them to bring about comprehensive immigration reform. Dead kids in a desert aren't going to make them work together, what is?

AVLON: The answer is, unfortunately, when the Republicans feel like they have a new president or there's real political pressure. This is a moment of real conflict that should cause people to refer to the better angel of their nature, to actually pass legislation.

But we see politics overriding humanitarian concern every day. We see politics overriding problem-solving every day. The real problem -- the real tragedy here is the fact that people demagogue illegal immigration and refuse to do anything about it because of hyper partisan politics in Washington. That's got to stop.

BOLDUAN: Because you can't get it through by getting -- going back to your corners. Cannot push comprehensive immigration reform by just sticking with your side.

AVLON: Correct.

BOLDUAN: Did the Eric Cantor loss --

AVLON: Absolutely.

BOLDUAN: --hurt this even more?

AVLON: Absolutely, because it sent a message that terrified everybody in the face of the Tea Party and the Republicans.

BOLDUAN: But Lindsey Graham stuck his neck out and he's doing OK.


HOOVER: There's a difference between the Senate and the House, unfortunately. I mean, the reality is House members are more scared of the Tea Party coalition.

AVLON: Reality check here, folks. We're halfway down the field with this because of the courage of a bipartisan coalition in the Senate. If the House could just summon up its courage and stop being so terrified and pass some sort of bill we could get this done.

BOLDUAN: But isn't this also a little bit about there needs to be a way to have political cover? When anything big gets done, I remember always being on Capitol Hill talking about, oh, they provided the political cover for -- for these guys to be able to vote for it. When you have President Obama out in every speech saying, "So sue me. If you're not going to do something, I'm gonna do it," a potent political message for sure, but doesn't that also hurt the chances of really getting something done?

HOOVER: It does. But that means -- I think he's doing it because he knows it's over. If you notice --

BOLDUAN: Well, wouldn't be wrong about that.

HOOVER: -- in his speeches -- over the last year -- no, in his speeches over the last six months, he steered clear of immigration. He wasn't saying send me a bill, send me a bill. He did it because -- because the House said we actually think we can get it done; just give us a little bit of space speech because if you touch this, it'll become way too polarized. And -- and, so now, there's this signal. There was a call between Boehner and the president.

BOLDUAN: Is this gonna get people out to the polls, though, in mid- terms, or will people still (inaudible)?


HOOVER: You know what? Let me just tell you. The politics of this hurt Republicans.

BOLDUAN: Long term. HOOVER: 55,000 Latinos become citizens every day. Do you think they are registering to be Republicans? Heck no.

BOLDUAN: You're looking at the long-term gain.


BOLDUAN: Republicans, any lawmaker cannot long look at the long term. They're just trying to survive the mid terms.

HOOVER: Well, they'll be lucky if they survive the next two mid- terms.

AVLON: Yeah, and you know what? Look, their -- their politicians try to sculpt (ph) these, they can stoke these fears to turn into voter turnout in the mid-term election. But let -- alternate way for a second. Because every member of Congress, you know, if they are not officially, you know, off -- off work until the election, it only feels that way.


AVLON: You know, you're looking at the cultural conflicts spilling out into American streets. If you're really concerned about this issue, use this as an impetus to pass a bill, pass a bill now, if that's a constructive way to confront this crisis. Otherwise, frankly, it's just fiddling while Rome burns.

BOLDUAN: I don't want to just say just to do something because you don't want to do something that could hurt the process. That's not what you want to see right now.

AVLON: Delay is denial here.

BOLDUAN: Thanks, guys. Great to see you.

HOOVER: Thank you, Kate.

AVLON: Good morning.

Happy Fourth of July, everybody.


PEREIRA: Great conversation there, guys. Thanks so much for that.

Next up on NEW DAY, expect increases security for flights that are heading to the U.S.. Concerns are mounting that terrorists may be developing sophisticated explosives. What does this mean for you, the passenger? We'll bring you details ahead.


PEREIRA: Welcome back to NEW DAY.

The U.S. is increasing security on flights that are headed to the United States from Europe and the Middle East. The changes are sparked by new concerns that terrorists are developing new types of explosives, ones that are harder to detect during that airport screening.

We want to bring in our safety analyst here at CNN. He's a former FAA safety inspector. This is a very important thing, Inspector, to have you with us. David Soucie, a pleasure to see you. First off, how concerned are you?

DAVID SOUCIE, CNN SAFETY ANALYST: Good morning, Michaela. It's important to temper the concerns about this particular report.


SOUCIE: Because this is not a specific thing that's been found or some specific plot that's been disclosed.


SOUCIE: It's a general increase in technology, and so what's going on here is just a response to that.

PEREIRA: What tipped them off about this new technology that is being developed?

SOUCIE: Well, they have been looking at this quite a lot, actually since 2009, when the -- when the al Qaeda or what is it, the al Qaeda group that had put together the underwear bomber, if you remember that one, where they were trying to capture someone who had put a different kind of bomb on his body. So there is technology that was out there that was undetectable, and so because of that, they've been really focused on that.

PEREIRA: And they're really focused on flights coming into the States starting in Europe in the Middle East. What kind of changes, if we're international travelers, what kind of changes are we gonna see? What procedures will change?

SOUCIE: Well, mostly what will happen is it will be a tightening of security from Europe back into the United States, and that tightening of security would involve more gate checks, if they'll pull you out of line and say, hey, we need to look at you. And they'll do more -- more of our famous pat-downs, the things that we love to have as pat- downs, but there will be more of that. They'll be looking at your shoes, particularly.


SOUCIE: They'll be looking at quite a few of the -- any of the electronics, anything you bring on board will have a much more closely -- close look at those before they get put on the aircraft.

PEREIRA: But again, those changes not going to be affecting flyers domestically at domestic airports. Why is that? Why is there not that concern for us here State-side? SOUCIE: Well, I think the United States with their security, we've

upped our security to a higher standard than most around the world, so what we need to make sure of is that the security at that level is accomplished before those people get into the United States.

PEREIRA: Fair enough.

SOUCIE: Because once they are in the United States and on those airplanes, then it's a different scenario.

PEREIA: Now, here's my question for you, and -- and I know you have a sense of this, too, because you spend a lot of your time traveling around the globe. Every country has different procedures, even here in the western hemisphere. If you're traveling from Canada to the U.S., from Mexico to the U.S., you see different procedures by their airport screeners. How do we in the United States control the methodology of those procedures overseas?

SOUCIE: That's a really good question, Michaela, and it's not a simple answer, but to put it as simply as possible, the United States controls our airspace. So in order to fly in that airspace, you have to have approval, and that approval comes from Transportation Security Administration, Homeland Security, and it also comes from the Federal Aviation Administration. And those -- those countries that fly into the U.S. are approved to do so. If they attempt to enter the U.S. without approval, they can be turned around and even sometimes defendable (ph).

PEREIRA: So they work well with one another.

SOUCIE: They really do, and there's a very extensive agreement. With the FAA, I worked on a lot of these agreements, and they go beyond air control. They go into the certification of the airplane, the way it's built, the way that that it's designed and ways it's engineered. So it's not just a simple fact. It really, really is important to work together, and they have done that over the years very well.

PEREIRA: Since we got you out of bed so early in Denver, I want to take you to a couple other stories that we're following. We've had a couple of frightening incidents in the air in the past week. We saw a chute, one of those, you know, rescue chutes eject inside the plane mid-flight. And then yesterday that Quantas fright from L.A. to Melbourne, so there was a flood. It looked like a river flowing down the -- the aisle way.

Give us an idea of -- you know, people are going to wonder is our maintenance lacking? Are -- are pieces falling apart? Are things slipping through the craps -- cracks, pardon me? What's your assessment of these two stories?

SOUCIE: Well, these -- these airplanes have had some issues. Those particular two issues, let's take -- take the emergency slide first. That thing sliding and popping inside is really a very dangerous situation.

PEREIRA: Sure it is. SOUCIE: Remember in Asiana when Asiana crashed, there was one that

went off inside. And it nearly killed the flight attendant trying to escape had the pilot not been quick- reacting with grabbing the ax and -- and exploding the -- the slide interior. So it's something that the NTSB has been talking to the FAA about for a long time.

They've been focused mostly on when the airplane crashes that the slides don't deploy properly, but now there's a much more -- much greater and more direct concern to me is that it explodes inside, which could easily have trapped or killed someone inside that airplane.

PEREIRA: And obviously, the Quantas one, a concern there is you've got all sorts of electronics that run under the plane, and that could have been very, very dangerous. Smartly, that pilot said, "Let's just turn back." They were only an hour out of Los Angeles.

Inspector Soucie -- I think I'm gonna call you that for now on. Thanks so much for joining us. You gave us such insight on several issues regarding aviation today.

SOUCIE: Thanks, Michaela. Have a good day.

PEREIRA: You, too, and a great 4th, David. We should mention that. Kate, over to you.

BOLDUAN: All right, Michaela, thank you.

We're following a lot of news this morning, including now hurricane Arthur. Let's get to it.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't plan on a hurricane over the Fourth of July.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It'll be busy. People need to realize that when they're making their plans.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Flyers should anticipate the potential of cancellations.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE; The streets of Jerusalem are seething with anger and grief on both sides.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Murder is murder is murder, and the police will get to the bottom of this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When she first showed up, she stood out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Conley told investigators she needed to go overseas to be trained in jihad.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A disturbing hit and run caught on video.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I turned around, there was a lady coming full speed.


BOLDUAN: Good morning and welcome back to NEW DAY. Chris is off this morning.

We're going to begin with breaking news. Arthur now a hurricane. Let's take a look at this ominous storm. It's gaining strength, now packing 75-mile-an-hour winds and it's heading straight towards North Carolina's outer banks.

A mandatory evacuation order has been put in place for Hatteras Island, and since it's a popular vacation spot, especially right now, especially over the Fourth of July holiday, local officials are ordering people to leave during the day before conditions deteriorate tonight. We're gonna be tracking the hurricane's every move for you.

Let's begin with meteorologist Indra Petersons who's at Kill Devil Hills on the outer banks. Indra?

INDRA PETERSONS, METEOROLOGIST: Beautiful this morning, Kate. And I wish it could stay that way for the holiday weekend. But we know Arthur is now a hurricane, and it continues to strengthen. Currently about 113 miles off the coast of Charleston, South Carolina. Those outer bands already bringing rain to the region.

Warnings already in effect for the outer banks. Hurricane warnings are in effect there. Many people already evacuating. As of this morning, it's now mandatory evacuations are in place.

As far as the track. Well, again, into this evening and through tomorrow morning, the closest it's likely to make impact will be right here on the outer banks for these overnight hours. Then it quickly catches up with the jet stream. It makes its way towards the northeast staying south of the region, but if you look at the farthest western portion of the track, there is a threat right towards Cape Cod. That would be the Fourth of July evening hours.

Then it continues off to the northeast, looking for the impact right in though Halifax by Saturday as a remnant low. A lot of rain expected to come this way, 3 to 5 inches possible in through the Carolinas. That's only one side of the equation.

You still have the storm surge, so another 2 to 4 feet of water is expected, and its impact will be right during high tide, so you have even more rain expected there. As far as the surf, we're already talking about 25-foot waves surrounding Arthur currently. By the time it makes its way closer to the coastline, we could be talking about some 15, if not 20-foot waves impacting the region right here, so so much to be thinking about, especially when you look at a beautiful day like this. You know things are gonna be changing rather quickly, Kate.

BOLDUAN: Absolutely, very deceiving, because it is a beautiful sight behind you right now. Indra, thanks so much. So Hurricane Arthur may be the main weather event, but parts of the

northeast are already recovering from a violent night of storms. Look at these spectacular lightning strikes in New York City from last night. Really beautiful.

The rough weather, though, is expected to cause flight delays and cancellations across the country. Couple it with another powerful storm system that's coming in from the west, my goodness, that's clearly a recipe for travel nightmares.

Jason Carroll is live at New York's LaGuardia Airport with much more. Hopefully quiet yet this morning, Jason. What -- what are you expecting?

JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, actually things not looking too badly. I think a lot of people are gonna be able to relate to this. If you take a look right down here where you see the security area, I've been through LaGuardia many, many times on a lot of holidays. I've actually never seen it this clear. If you take a look, you can see it's pretty smooth sailing through LaGuardia right now. Actually, we've done a check of all the area airports.