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FEMA Prepares for Hurricane Arthur; U.S. Teen Arrested for Intending to Provide Material Support to Terrorists; Tension Between Israel and Palestine Over Teen Deaths; House to Hold Special Hearing on the Border

Aired July 3, 2014 - 07:00   ET

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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: What are you expecting?

JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Actually things not looking too badly. I think a lot of people will be able to relate to this. If you take a look right down here where you see the security area, I've been through LaGuardia many, many times on a lot of holidays. I've actually never seen it this clear. If you take a look you can see it's pretty smooth sailing through LaGuardia right now. Actually we've done a check of all the area airports, Newark, JFK as well, all of them right now looking at very little delays. Some residual cancellations from yesterday, but things seem to be moving along pretty well.

All of this is because of that cold front that you mentioned that moved through the tri-state area last night. I want you to take a look at some of the picture. One thing we've already seen, the Empire State Building, being struck by lightning several times, really amazing to see that happening out here last night as a lot of people in the city saw that happening.

Also flash flooding in the tri-state areas was reported in New York state and parts of New Jersey as well. Again, all of this because of that cold front that had moved through here causing -- wreaking havoc throughout areas such as Chicago and Indiana, throughout the Midwest. Again, we saw some residual delays here today, yesterday at the airport. There were several delays, especially people trying to get into and out of Chicago, but for right here, right now here in the city, things looking not too bad so far. Kate?

BOLDUAN: All right, Jason, thanks so much.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Let's bring in our FEMA Director Craig Fugate. He joins us to talk about preparations for the storms. Thanks so much for joining us, Mr. Fugate. So big question -- we ready?

CRAIG FUGATE, FEMA DIRECTOR: Well, we're getting ready. But what's important today is people heed the evacuation orders. Now that the evacuation orders are in effect along the outer banks, it's time to go. Even if conditions don't look that bad yet, as you said, the hurricane is coming that way, so we really want people to heed the evacuation orders while we work with the state to get ready for whatever happens.

PEREIRA: Yes, that's the problem when people look outside their door right now and they think it's not a big deal. But we know because of technology what's brewing. What are your biggest concerns now as Arthur moves up the coast?

FUGATE: Well, it's really going to be, does it pass over the outer bake banks or to the west of there or east of there? That will tell us the damage. But the focus right now is getting people to evacuate. The more people that evacuate makes it a lot easier to go in there and clean up afterwards. We're not having to do a lot of search and rescue operations, and hopefully with this storm we don't have loss of life. But that depends on people heeding those evacuation orders and staying out of water and taking steps to get ready.

PEREIRA: That's a point to underline to be sure, heed those evacuation orders. Talk to us what the folks on the ground are doing. Obviously they're well-versed, and if you live along that coast you'll see some extreme storms. What kind of preparations are they taking?

FUGATE: Well, you know, get the boats secure and pick up everything that could get blown around. Board up or shutter up your windows. People do this, you know, they are used to that there. The governor of North Carolina has already got his teams in place. He's moved some swift water rescue teams in case that's needed.

But we hope people will take time and get ready. If you're in the evacuation zone, evacuate. Again, this storm does not have to cause loss of life if people get ready now.

PEREIRA: You mentioned the swift water teams being moved in. Flooding and flash flooding in particular is a real concern. Talk more about that and other readiness that FEMA is preparing.

FUGATE: Well, again, we work closely with the state so a lot of these efforts are the state. The governor has called out parts of the National Guard. He's got teams ready to go. It's going to depend upon how much storm surge and how much rain we get. So everywhere along the Carolina Coast, as well as the inland areas along the bays are getting ready for the storm. So, you know, we prepare for the eventualities of the storm, but the most important step now is get ready if you're in the evacuation zone, evacuate now. Don't wait until 11:00 and see if the forecast is any better. You will run out of time.

PEREIRA: Right. So here's a challenge for you. As we mentioned, we both talked about folks that live there very well familiar with all of the changes of living along the Atlantic coast. But you've got a variable here you can't necessarily control. You got the Fourth of July. You got all sorts of visitors from away saying, hey, we want to go spend the weekend at the coast, at the shore. They are not familiar necessarily with evacuation precautions and orders, et cetera. What is your message to them? Are you wanting them to make alternative plans on higher ground inland?

FUGATE: Well, again, if you're in the outer banks, those officials are the best place to get that information. If you are in an area with an evacuation order, obviously won't go there today. Depending upon the impacts, if it's not that bad, maybe you can salvage the weekend. But it's much better to wait and make sure before you get out there and get stuck in traffic for the rest of the coast where it's watch and see some areas, again, I think the message will be heed evacuation orders, if required.

But more importantly, be careful on the coast around surf conditions. We know a lot of surfers look at this as an opportunity to get out there and make sure you know what you're doing and heeding the orders to stay out of water. We'll get some dangerous surf conditions, and, unfortunately, that can also result in loss of life.

PEREIRA: It's tempting but better to be safe than sorry.

Final thought for you. It's pretty early for us to be facing a hurricane. Are you concerned about the upcoming season?

FUGATE: We take them one storm at a time like we said at the beginning of the year. You get ready for all of the storms, not just what the seasonal forecast is. And, again, Arthur is the first one up. We don't know how many up. But if you live from Brownsville, Texas all the way up to Maine, it's hurricane season. Get ready.

PEREIRA: You heard Craig Fugate there. Heed his warning. Glad to hear FEMA is prepared. Thanks so much for joining us.

And a happy Fourth to him we should point out. Coming up we'll talk more about preparing for the storm with North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory.

BOLDUAN: Let's turn now to an American woman in custody accused of trying to help ISIS. This is the terror group fighting in Iraq and Syria. The FBI arrested 19-year-old Shannon Conley of Colorado back in April as she was about to leave the country. CNN's Pamela Brown is in Washington with much more of the details. She was arrested just as she was trying to board the flight even.

PAMELA BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's right. In fact, we're learning several new details from that recently unsealed criminal complaint, Kate. We've learned from that complaint that this woman, this 19-year-old woman in Denver, Shannon Conley, was on a mission to wage jihad and wanted to travel overseas to fight with ISIS. In fact, the FBI said that they spent months trying to dissuade her before finally arresting her in the airport as she tried to board a flight to Turkey.

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BROWN: A Colorado teenager arrested and charged with conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists. And 19-year-old Shannon Maureen Conley taken into custody by the FBI as she attempted to board a plane to turkey at the Denver International Airport in April. Her goal, authorities say, to unite with the radical Islamist group ISIS in Syria and marry a jihadist she met on the Internet. According to a newly unsealed criminal complaint Conley discussed her

radical beliefs with federal agents over the course of an eight-month investigation, referring to U.S. military bases as targets, and telling investigators that she thought she could plan an attack on U.S. soil but could not carry it out because she lacked the means and opportunity. Ignoring warnings that aiding terrorists would result in her arrest, Conley told investigators she needed to go overseas to be trained in jihad.

The teenager became the subject of an FBI investigation after a pastor who feared she was planning an attack at a local church reported what he saw as suspicious activity to police.

GEORGE MORRISON, SENIOR PASTOR, FAITH BIBLE CHAPEL: She became more -- a little bit more hostile. Then eventually we came to her and said, listen, it's just probably better that you not come back.

BROWN: According to court documents Conley told investigators that she hates the people at the church, asserting that "They think I'm a terrorist, I'll give them something to think I am."

According to the complaint, agents recovered material about jihad and Al Qaeda from her house in addition to DVDs of Anwar al Awlaki, the American militant killed in a drone strike in 2011. The teenager joins a growing list of Americans who have been detained for attempting to join terrorist organizations abroad.

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BROWN: And in the criminal complaint, Conley even received military training in an effort to train jihadists overseas about U.S. military tactics, according to authorities. She is charged with attempting to provide material support to terrorists. Michaela and Kate?

PEREIRA: An unusual story there. Pamela Brown, thank you for that. We appreciate it.

All right, let's turn to Christine Romans. She is here with some of today's other top stories. Good morning.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning again, ladies. The breaking news this morning, the U.S. embassy in Uganda is warning there's a specific threat to attack the airport in Kampala today. Intelligence sources say an unknown terrorist group has planned the attack on the Entebbe International Airport between the hours of 9:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. tonight. Officials are warning travelers to review their flight plans in light of this information. Ugandan police have drastically increased surveillance in the country in the wake of recent by Islamist militants and insurgents.

The thought of facing murder charges after his toddler died in a hot car is heading to court today. Prosecutors will lay out their case against Justin Ross Harris. Police say Harris and his wife Leanna used their computers to research deaths inside vehicles. Harris has been in jail without bond since his arrest. He's also facing child cruelty charges. Today members of Congress are holding up a field hearing in south

Texas to see for themselves just how bad the crisis has become there. Thousands of Central American children have been crossing into the U.S. illegally, overwhelming detention facilities and causing a humanitarian crisis on the border. Governor Rick Perry he wants President Obama to come see the problem personally. More undocumented immigrants are being transferred to California tomorrow. Tuesday they were met with very angry protests from residents.

Take a look at this video, police in Fresno, California, looking for these two would-be robbers after a failed jewelry store stickup. One pulls a gun on the clerk while the other tries -- falls trying to vault over the counter. They fled the scene empty-handed with the store's owner appeared with a loaded shotgun. Police are offering up to $1,000 for information that helps capture these bumbling would-be robbers, still with a gun, a very serious situation.

PEREIRA: Glad nobody got hurt.

ROMANS: Absolutely, absolutely.

PEREIRA: And I mean the store owners.

ROMANS: Yes.

PEREIRA: He probably has a mark on his face.

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BOLDUAN: Dumb robbers. Coming up next on NEW DAY, growing unrest in the Middle East. The focus right now, Israel. Israel offering a string of targeted strikes it says in response to rockets coming from Gaza. This all comes -- comes as the mystery of another murdered teenager is in the headlines. We're going to be covering that coming up.

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BOLDUAN: Welcome back to NEW DAY. Overnight the Israeli military hit Gaza with airstrikes after they say rockets were fired into Israel from Gaza. They follow violent clashes in Jerusalem, you see it right there, after a Palestinian teenager was found dead. Palestinians blame the teen's death on revenge for the killing of three Israeli teens in the West Bank. Israel blames Hamas for those murders.

Let's bring in Fareed Zakaria, host of CNN's "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS," editor at large for "Time Magazine" to discuss.

We've been talking about this. The violence and the tension between Israelis and Palestinians is nothing new at all. When did it get to the point that killing innocent teenagers is part of this?

FAREED ZAKARIA, "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS": Well, unfortunately, of course, there is a long history of terrorism, as you know. Palestinians regarded as a resistance to what they see as an illegitimate occupation. Of course Israelis regard it as terrorism. What I think is new here, which is very troubling, is that people are

using the new tools of technology, social media, and you're beginning to see a kind of radical fringe elements are able to organize, galvanize, support, so what happens after the horrific murder of these three Israelis, you see Israeli right-wing extremist groups go on to Facebook and, you know, create sites that basically say, let's kill Arabs.

The -- you know, the on the Arab side, on the Palestinian side, you've had similar kinds of incitement. It's as if, you know, we sometimes think that these technologies are somehow gonna make everybody get on and get along --

BOLDUAN: Get along.

ZAKARIA: -- and cooperate. And instead what's happening is, it's creating a poison within the body politics of both sides, and it's gonna be very difficult to walk this down because it's out there now.

BOLDUAN: A great point. And, you know, Prime Minister Netanyahu, he's calling for -- he's called for calm. I mean, everyone of both sides are calling for calm on this, but you -- I get the sense that they are trying to get a handle, trying to keep a lid on it, but can they, especially when you talk about how now you have this social media element.

ZAKARIA: You know, this is the thing we've discovered about all the social media. The costs of organization as it were have dropped dramatically, so while governments can say you -- you know, we will -- we will monitor rallies, we will monitor things like that, what do you do about a Facebook group that gets 35,000 likes within, you know, a few hours?

And -- and the problem here is that it creates an atmosphere within which these politicians have to deal. We all know the end point for the Israeli-Palestinian process is simple. Everybody knows it. It's a two-state solution. We know roughly what the contours of those state would be.

The problem getting there involves a lot of painful concessions on both sides. And so when you have these kinds of event, it makes the Israelis much less willing to make concessions; it makes the Palestinians much less willing to make concessions. So I think this does, even though -- you know, in some ways, it's a few people, it's individual tragedies, but it sets back the cause of peace dramatically.

BOLDUAN: And doesn't it just take that spark to ignite something once again? I mean, you know Diana Buttu. We had her on earlier, the former adviser to the PLO. And she says that she believes this is going to spiral out of control again.

ZAKARIA: I would say it's unlikely only because there's such an imbalance of power, to put it bluntly. The Israelis really have such complete military force dominance. The wall has brought down the incidence of terrorism by over 99 percent. So what you're going to see probably are these kinds of individual acts, horrific and in a sad way because there is less of the other kind of normal.

BOLDUAN: I know.

ZAKARIA: I hate to use that word -- the kinds of protests or terrorism. You will see these more gruesome, more horrific, more spectacular one shot, one -- you know, once in a while. It's what we all worry about with regard to this stuff.

But, you know, it's almost like there's no escape valve, and there's no hope for people, so that you see this and then you see some retaliation, some kind of revenge killing. The Israeli Justice Minister Tzipi Livni has been very, very strong on saying, "Look, if this is a revenge killing, that is illegal; it's terrorism. It has to be punished. Israel is a state of laws."

And we need something like that on the other side, some sense of being able to assert the importance of institutions and not allowing vigilante violence rule the day.

BOLDUAN: For you, how does this play into, how does this fit into the instability, the broader instability in the region in Syria, especially in Iraq? I mean, what's happened over the past -- just this week in Iraq has been really astonishing, a parliament completely in a -- in -- incapable of getting its act together and violence continuing.

ZAKARIA: OK, at the end of the day, the only way you're gonna get a Palestinian state is if the Israelis feel comfortable and secure enough to allow one to be created.

BOLDUAN: That surely isn't right now.

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ZAKARIA: Right, in this atmosphere, Iraq is -- is collapsing. Syria is burning. Fears about what is going to help to Lebanon. Israelis feel, understandably, insecure.

BOLDUAN: What do you -- what do you make of what's going on in Iraq this week? I mean, it was -- you have the line coming from the Obama administration, which is, you need to form this coalition unity government before you can get any more, any real U.S. military support, though we're seeing more military heading over there. But then you see the first attempt at that completely fail in spectacular fashion.

ZAKARIA: Well, clearly, the -- the line that the Obama administration is urging is correct. But I think that at the end of the day this prime minister is not going to do it. He's not -- he's not the guy who's gonna be able to do it. He's the guy who sent out arrest warrants for Sunni politicians. He's the guy who reneged on every deal that the Americans made.

BOLDUAN: He's also the guy with the majority seats right now.

ZAKARIA: He's -- BOLDUAN: What do you think --

ZAKARIA: He has a majority coalition.

BOLDUAN: Coalition.

ZAKARIA: Right, and so there are a lot of coalition members who could defect.

BOLDUAN: So that could change.

ZAKARIA: You could -- you could -- you could see that it might change. The last time around, by the way, he wasn't in the majority, and he managed to finagle with the help, frankly, of the United States and Iran to kind of cobble together a coalition. Because he presents himself at a strong man can govern Iraq.

Well, it's clear, he can (ph) govern Iraq. He's created an insurrection of rebellion, and he's brought al Qaeda into Iraq. So one would hope that people see that. Most importantly, I think the United States is correct to say, if you don't do that, you don't get substantive American help. Because remember, Kate, he has 650,000 men under arms, Nouri al Maliki, the prime minister.

BOLDUAN: He has a huge defense budget.

ZAKARIA: He has a defense budget of $17 billion. He's got the firepower and men he needs. What he doesn't have is the right political environment.

BOLDUAN: So you've got the -- you've got this statement and a position coming from the Obama administration in -- in Iraq, right? Is there something more in Israel between Israelis and Palestinians that the United States should or can do? It seems that -- what we've heard from Secretary Kerry and President Obama so far is what we often here, the two sides need to come together. It might be -- is it too dangerous for them to step in the middle of this?

ZAKARIA: You now, right now probably it is, but I think that there've always been people who felt that maybe what the United States could do in the Israeli-Palestinian situation, at some point is say, look, we all know what the end point is going to be, and we're going to present you a plan, an American plan, to end the occupation and create a Palestinian state. Here's what it's going to look like. Here are the parameters. Why don't you guys get together and discuss these final modalities, final, you know, points, of how would you do the land swaps so that Israel can keep its major settlements? What would you -- how would you carve out a space in the east Jerusalem area, so that the Arabs can feel that they have a capital there?

But, you know, put it all out on the table. Say we're not going to spend three years negotiating this. We know what it looks like. Why don't you guys do it for six months? I don't know that either -- either side is ready for it now.

BOLDUAN: It sure doesn't look like it. ZAKARIA: But at least it creates -- you know the problem in the Israeli- Palestinian case is people often say there's no light at the end of the tunnel. There's light at the end of the tunnel. There's just no tunnel. There's no way to get from here to the obvious solution.

BOLDUAN: That's a great way of putting it, Fareed. It's great to see you. Thanks so much.

And a reminder to all of you -- of course, you know this, watch "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS" on Sundays at 10:00 and 1:00 p.m. Eastern.

Michaela?

PEREIRA: He has such a way with words.

All right, next up on NEW DAY, we are bracing for Arthur. Communities evacuated as Hurricane -- that hurricane gains strength. Ahead, we're gonna speak to the governor of North Carolina about where that hurricane is headed and how preparations are coming along.

Also, Republican Senator Rand Paul says he is doing more to further civil rights than anybody else in Washington. Oh, really? You know we're going to do a little fact-checking inside politics.

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BOLDUAN: Welcome back. Hope you're having a good morning so far. Let's get back to Christine Romans for a look at some of today's top stories.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, unless you're trying to grill out in North Carolina.

Arthur is now a hurricane and is setting its sights on North Carolina's outer banks tonight. Hurricane warnings now extended to the North Carolina-Virginia border.

A Fourth of July tradition in Boston isn't taking any chances with Arthur. The Boston pops fireworks spectacular will happen later today instead of tomorrow because of concerns over bad weather.

We're learning more this morning about a 19-year-old Colorado woman now in federal custody for allegedly trying to join ISIS. Just released court documents reveal Shannon Conley was arrested back in April. She was charged with conspiracy to provide support to terrorists. Conley was about to board an overseas flight when the FBI grabbed her. She told agents she planned to marry an ISIS member she met on the internet.

New talks to curb Iran's nuclear program are under way this morning. The U.S. and allies are in Vienna to work out a deal that would reduce sanctions against Iran in exchange for limits on its nuclear program. They have less than three weeks to break a deadlock that halted negotiations back in May. In a new YouTube video, Iran's foreign minister said if talks fail Americans will be to blame, not Iran. Now if you're ever serving former NFL star Warren Sapp in a

restaurant, be careful how you address him. Sapp took exception to a waitress referring to him and his friends as boys. In turn, Sapp stiffed the server on the tip and $69 bill. He fessed up to it on Twitter after a picture of the receipt went viral. Sapp wrote on the receipt, quote, "Boys don't tip" and said he received horrible service. The waitress denies that claim.

PEREIRA: (inaudible) echoes for a lot of people.

ROMANS: And a tip is a tip.

PEREIRA: The black community.

ROMANS: Tips are voluntary, and you can pay what you want.

PEREIRA: The tip is voluntary. That's a good point, very good point.

BOLDUAN: But waiters and waitresses rely on those. They don't get paid enough.

PEREIRA: That's true.

BOLDUAN: All right, coming up next on NEW DAY, let's get back to Washington with inside politics and John King. Hey, there.

JOHN KING, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Kate, Michaela, Christine, good morning to you, a very busy day inside politics. So let's get right to it.

With me this morning to share their reporting and their insights, Molly Ball of "The Atlantic"; Maggie Haberman of "Politico".

There's a hearing today, a House committee is gonna have a special hearing down on the border to talk about what should be done, especially about this influx of children in recent weeks and months being sent up from central American countries.

Listen to the Texas Governor Rick Perry. He'll testify at that hearing today, but he says somebody else should come pay a visit, the president.

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RICK PERRY, GOVERNOR OF TEXAS: If the president of the United States is really serious about securing that border, we can show him how to do that. But I haven't even had a phone call from this president. If he doesn't go to the border, I think it's a real reflection of his lack of concern about what's really going there.

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KING: So you have some serious policy decisions, Maggie, that have to be made about what to do with these children, how to get more resources down there to make sure they are getting the right health care, to make sure they're being processed. And the president says most of them are going home. We're gonna find a relative and send them home. Will the politics like that get in the way of rational policy here?

MAGGIE HABERMAN, "POLITICO": There's a very strong chance of that. The White House seems very uncertain about exactly what to do about this. It is a massive, massive problem. Rick Perry, as you know, is running for president, so this is a very easy thing for him to get in front of.