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New Security Measures for Domestic Passengers; Investigators Recreate Hot Car Death; President Obama Talks Immigration in Texas; Bill Hillman Gored during Running of the Bulls
Aired July 10, 2014 - 6:30 ET
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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Good to have you back with us on NEW DAY.
Let's take a look at the headlines at 32 minutes past the hour.
Beginning with a major push and pushback on how to handle the border crisis. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson is set to press Congress on President Obama's $3.7 billion immigration fix during a Senate hearing today. The president is urging Congress to take quick action, but House Republicans have made it clear there will not be a speedy vote.
In the Middle East, more fire exchanged overnight between Israel and Hamas at the Gaza Strip. And as the conflict deepens, President Obama is defending Israeli airstrikes but is cautioning against a ground attack into Gaza. This as we learn that Israeli officials have suspended a police officer that they say was involved in this brutal beating of an American teenager in Jerusalem last week.
New airport security measures are in effect for domestic flights. The TSA will now ask some passengers to power up their electronic devices at airport checkpoints to show that they do indeed work. It is an expansion of a procedure affecting some U.S.-bound flights.
Rene Marsh joins us now with details.
We thought it was just flights originating in Middle East and Europe coming into the United States. Now, a change.
RENE MARSH, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: Yes, things that changed just this week. This new security measure though is targeted at a very, very specific group of people, now, if you are on the federal government's watch list, make sure your devices are fully charged because now, you're going to have to power them up whether you're flying out of a U.S. airport or international airport.
Now, people who find themselves on this so-called selectee list at airport, they have been flagged by either the government or law enforcement as a potential terror threat. Now, you should know that these people already get enhanced screening, but this will be another layer of security.
This is all coming, as you mentioned, Michaela, after last week, the U.S. government stepped up security at airports in the Europe, Middle East, as well as Africa, essentially to address concerns that terrorist groups are looking for new ways to sneak explosives on to aircraft. So, what this procedure really does is try to help them assure that the electronic devices haven't been modified to conceal an explosive device. We should point out that this will only impact about a couple hundred people per day -- Michaela.
PEREIRA: We should start seeing the changes implemented soon.
All right. Rene Marsh, thanks so much for that.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: New details in the Georgia hot car death case. Investigators recreating the sweltering conditions that led to the death of 22-month-old Cooper Harris. I want to show you a video right now from Atlanta station WAGA. It shows investigators parking the actual SUV that Cooper was in, in the exact spot where it was parked the day that his father left him there.
Victor Blackwell following developments for us from Atlanta.
Victor, what do you have
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: John, good morning.
In a few hours, police detectives will continue to study everything outside the SUV, everything Ross Harris said and did, why and when, but now, there's a new group of investigators who are studying what happened for the seven hours the child was inside that car, when his discomfort became pain, the pain then became torture, and then the torture ended in death.
BLACKWELL (voice-over): Just how hot did it get inside this SUV as 22-month-old Cooper Harris suffered and ultimately died? The estimates are staggering, potentially 140 degrees.
Now, Cobb County investigators have recreated a scene that they have described repeatedly but one we are seeing for the first time. In this video from WAGA, we see Justin Ross Harris' SUV in the employee lot at Home Depot on a hot sunny day in the same space where he parked it three weeks prior, and in the back the very car seat Cooper was strapped into for seven hours.
Joseph Scott Morgan is a forensic scholar and former investigator.
JOSEPH SCOTT MORGAN, JACKSONVILLE STATE UNIVERSITY: I think that it paints a really graphic picture for us as the public to get an idea what this child went through and how horrific this death was.
BLACKWELL: In the video, investigators with the district attorney's office are seen testing temperatures several times. At 9:30, about the time police say Harris pulled into the parking lot and left his toddler strapped in the back seat. At 12:42, when police say Harris returned to place light bubbles in the car. And at 4:16, the end of the work day when detectives say Harris got in and drove off.
MORGAN: Externally, they would have been using an external temperature gauge which is a huge thermometer that they have with a digital readout. Interiorly inside of the car, they have temperatures monitors that are set up within the vehicle. My thought is that they are also utilizing more than likely heat sensitive video as well to see the rise and fall of temperature.
BLACKWELL: The D.A.'s office has not released the findings of the heat test, but for most people left heartbroken by this case, the exact temperature is an afterthought when compared to the toddler's agonizing death.
MORGAN: You still have a child that's strapped in a car that's exposed to extreme heat, that I can assure you no adult would be able to endure. I certainly couldn't endure it.
BLACKWELL: Now, we heard during the probably cause hearing that there were scratches on the child's face, bruises on back of his head, quite possibly sustained while he was in that car seat. Of course, we're still waiting for the completion and the release of the autopsy in this case.
And police, again, are still looking through computers and cell phones to determine if this was an accident or if indeed it was murder.
Back to you.
BERMAN: Any way you cut it, the death of a 22-month-old child is simply horrible.
Victor Blackwell, our thanks to you.
BOLDUAN: Thanks, Victor. Absolutely.
Coming up next on NEW DAY: President Obama, he's speaking out on the border crisis and he's pointing fingers. Who he blames for the problem and what that means for the fight over tens of thousands of undocumented children waiting?
BERMAN: Welcome back to NEW DAY, everyone.
President Obama really raising some eyebrows, making comments about the crisis on the border while saying he was ready to take steps to stop the influx of young immigrants. He really put a lot of the blame, most of the blame at the feet of Congress and partisan politics.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If I sponsored a bill declaring an apple pie American, it might -- it might fall victim to partisan politics, I get that.
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BERMAN: Apple pie politics, that emphasis rubbing some politics the wrong way.
Joining us now to talk about this, our own CNN political commentators Kevin Madden, a Republican strategist, Paul Begala, a democratic strategist and senior adviser for Priorities Action USA.
Hey, Paul, you know, it's interesting. The president says that this is all about politics, really anti-Obama politics is what he's saying. Yet, you know, he removed himself from the immigration debate for a year to let Congress work on it, and they still couldn't come up with a solution. So, is that really fair?
PAUL BEGALA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, they couldn't because the Republicans are caught in this trap. Republican primary voters, not Republicans generally, but activists in their party, they really hate the president, they hate, hate, hate the president. And that Tea Party fringe has pinned down the rest of the Republicans. But you see it.
I mean, look, all he's trying to do is pass George W. Bush's immigration plan. Republicans won't support it even though it was proposed by a Republican president. By the way, he also passed Mitt Romney's health care plan, he's trying to pass John McCain's cap-and- trade plan, and all of a sudden, that makes him Marxist. He's got the Marxist touch I guess, Midas in reverse.
Everything he touches becomes Marxism. Of course, they're playing politics. Are we kidding?
BOLDUAN: Yes, everybody is playing politics. I mean, first, one point -- Paul, let me ask this of you, because one point is that the president, he says that he doesn't need to go to the border because he says he's not into theater. I'm not interested in photo-ops. I'm interested in solving a problem.
You've called on him to go to the border. I don't know why the president -- tell me why you think the president still won't go, because it seems that when it comes to a presidency, you got to do photo-ops, it's what happens.
BEGALA: And it's not just a photo-op. The meeting with Rick Perry, that was a photo-op, believe me. I'm serious. If ignorance ever goes to $100 a barrel, I want the drilling rights to Perry's head.
The president didn't learn a thing meeting with that guy. That was a photo-op. That was theater. It's kind of theater you have to do when you're president.
If you go to the border, though, the president -- he could do a lot. First off, he could send a message from a more powerful platform to Central American folks: don't send your kids here.
Second, he could show Americans, it's not a border security problem. It's a humanitarian crisis. The kids are surrendering. They are not evading the border patrol.
Third, he could buck up the first responders. Those border patrol agents are heroic. Those faith-based leaders who are caring for these children, are terrific. He could buck them up.
So, he could do a lot of good. He has to go. I really feel that strongly.
But, you know, yes, if you were the president, you do a lot of political theater and that's what he was doing yesterday with governor good hair.
BERMAN: Kevin Madden, speaking of good hair --
KEVIN MADDEN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I'm starting to think Paul doesn't like Rick Perry.
BOLDUAN: Oh, really? Oh, really?
BERMAN: I'm getting the sense that maybe that Paul and Rick Perry have got some issues.
Kevin Madden --
BEGALA: We go way back, Berman.
MADDEN: Yes, it sounds like it.
BERMAN: Kevin Madden, you've been sitting and behaving yourself quietly here.
MADDEN: I'm trying.
BERMAN: Rick Perry was pressing the president to take action.
BERMAN: But the president has pointed out that taking action on his own over the last couple years has created problems of his own. Let listen to what the president said about this. (BEGIN VIDEOCLIP)
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Governor Rick Perry, you know, he suggested maybe you need to go ahead and act and that might convince Republicans that they should go ahead and pass the supplemental, and I had to remind him I'm getting sued right now by Mr. Boehner apparently for going ahead and acting instead of going through Congress. Well, here's a good test case.
BERMAN: It is a little bit of a mixed message, Kevin isn't it? Republicans saying, Mr. President, you have to take action and when he does take action, we're going to sue you.
MADDEN: Look, that sound bite underscores Paul's point that there's a lack of leadership here right now. I mean, the petulant tone that the president took down on the border, I don't think it served anybody's good. To decry the politics of this by president Obama is quite silly. Politics and policy, they go hand in hand. Any time you're decrying the politics the way the president is, you're losing the politics. The reason he's losing the politics on this, the president, that is, it's not because his opponents are doing a much better job of solving the problem. Instead, he's losing the politics because he's getting criticism from both sides. It's not only Republicans that are criticizing the lack of action from the president. Henry Cuellar, Louis Gutierrez, two very passionate Democrats, very strong supporters of immigration reform, they are admonishing the president for his lack of leadership and the fact that he won't go to the border and see this problem, this humanitarian crisis and the border security crisis firsthand. That's one of the big problems.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Let me ask you, Kevin, a little bit about policy. Governor Perry in the interview that I did with him, he said he made it very clear that he wants to first see the border secured.
BOLDUAN: National guardsmen, surge to the border to protect the border and only then do you start dealing with the crisis of what to do with these children, putting them through the immigration system.
BOLDUAN: Do you think that is a feasible strategy, a feasible policy position for Republicans on this?
MADDEN: It is, and it also aligns with a lot of what you see with the American public. First, they believe that in order to solve the immigration problem that we do have to have a much more secure border. We have a to put resources there and we have to put a premium on securing our border before we can deal with the undocumented immigrants that we have here and the pressure for modernizing our immigration system in a way that recognizes that there are people that want to come here, that there are people fleeing bad situations elsewhere, but also how it fits into our larger economic aspirations as a nation.
BERMAN: Kevin, to Paul's point, they are not sneaking in and melting away. They are getting in, getting caught and in some cases turning themselves over. What are 100 or 1,000 more national guard troops going to do?
MADDEN: There's a lot of different opinions up on Capitol Hill. I think there are Democrats and Republicans that now want to see the law changed on how we deal with a lot of these children that are coming here without parents, unaccompanied minors, so that's -- look, if the president really cares about solving the problem, is he going to call Capitol Hill? is he going to bring together a bipartisan group of people to work on maybe that change, to work on harnessing and putting some of the resources down on the border in order to solve the humanitarian part of it? it will be interesting to see. Right now up until this point in this president's term, which has been six years in the presidency, he either has really bad relationships up on Capitol Hill or no relationships. That's one of the reasons we're at this point.
BOLDUAN: It seems that we're seeing that at least in part play out here. Paul, Kevin, thank you so much. I think one thing that I don't understand is it doesn't seem from what we heard from the president, the reaction to the president's statement yesterday, in the interview I did with Governor Perry that either side is ready to take the first move. The president made this request, but no one is ready to jump to take action to -- to do anything about -- though they are all calling it an immediate humanitarian crisis.
BERMAN: Let's hope they start talking with each other instead of at each other.
BOLDUAN: I don't know even when it's going to happen. Coming up next on NEW DAY oh, the irony. The guy who wrote the book on how not to get gored by a bull, there's a book on it. He gets gored. He's in a hospital and he's speaking out and we're going to
BERMAN: Some NEW DAY irony for you right now. A man who just co-wrote an ebook on how to survive the Running of the Bulls in Spain was gored on Wednesday. Bill Hillman is currently in a hospital. He is recovering in Pamplona after he was gored in the thigh. Hillman, who wrote "Fiesta: How to Survive the Bulls of Pamplona," joins us by phone right now. Bill, thank you so much for being with us. Let me ask you right off the bat, how is the fiesta going for you this morning?
BILL HILLMAN: This morning it's been great. You know, I've got a lot of people coming to visit me, some of the great runners, a lot of my dear friends are stopping by and giving me a lot of support and a lot of good energy.
BERMAN: So, what went wrong? HILLMAN: Well, you know, it was -- it was a really dangerous situation
which I outline in the book. It's when a bull is separated from the pack. They lose --
BERMAN:I think we just lost Mr. Hillman who was gored in the thigh by a bull. After the bull, as he was saying, was separated from the pack there. He did get gored. It's interesting. The introduction of this book written by a co-author. Let me read it to you, it says "if you want to guarantee you'll survive running the bulls, stay off the street and watch it from the balcony."
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Or home.
BERMAN: Or home.
PEREIRA: In America.
BOLDUAN: Do we know, was this his first time?
BERMAN: No, no, no, this guy is a pro. He's a pro running for the bulls. He says the issue was a bull got separated and there were other humans who fell down near him. We actually have a story on this. Our Jeanne Moos takes a look at the situation.
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Buffalo Bill Hillman took the bull by its horns all right, right in his thigh. Are you on drugs?
HILLMAN: yes, I'm on a lot of drugs, I think I'm on a lot of morphine.
MOOS: That bull didn't just gore anyone, it gored one of the authors of "Fiesta: How to Survive the Bulls of Pamplona." Noted one commentor, "the bull is now writing a book: How to gore a clown running in front of me on a street in Spain." Our captured the moment that Bill, wearing suspenders, ran from the bull but got pushed by the guy behind him and then tripped on someone's foot.
HILLMAN: The horn entered on my inner thigh and exited on my outer thigh and then pulled through.
MOOS: Do you remember feeling it go in?
HILLMAN: No, I didn't feel it at all. When he lifted me, that's when I realized I was gored. It was actually very slow and like kind of graceful to be lifted by a bull, but it didn't hurt at all.
MOOS: He was instantly in shock, didn't feel pain until he was put in an ambulance. Doctors told Bill the horn missed his femoral artery by about this much. We spoke to Bill shortly after he had surgery to clean the wound.
HILLMAN: Sadly, you know, its just part of the run, you know. All the great runners have been gored. MOOS: This was the tenth year that bill has joined in the running of
the bulls. People trip each other, the bulls trip over the people, the bulls trip over the bulls. They pull the bull's tail to get it away from runners who are down. Chapter three of How to Survive the Bulls of Pamplona is full of tips such as if you fall down, stay down. Instinct tells the bull to jump over debris. Will Bill be making additions to the book?
HILLMAN: I think the book is very solid and I think today was a situation where somebody pushed me and I fell over and I got gored.
MOOS: Bill's prognosis is good, but not the bulls. They almost always wind up dead by the end of the day, killed in bull fights. The animal that gored Bill got separated from the herd which sends a bull into attack mode. It trampled another guy after goring Bill. Will the author be back for the re-running of the bulls next year?
HILLMAN: I can't wait to get back on the street.
MOOS: But give that creature credit. The bull that gored bill hit the bulls eye of irony. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
BERMAN: He's getting stitches in the irony right now after getting gored.
BOLDUAN: All the greats have been gored, he says.
BERMAN: It's like the news business, right? Journalism.
PEREIRA: Depends on what you think is great.
BOLDUAN: Good point, good point.
That's just some of the news we're following, but there's a lot of important news going on this morning. Let's get right to t.
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BOLDUAN: Good morning and welcome back to new day. John Berman is here with us. Chris is off. We begin with political battle lines now becoming clearer on the border crisis. President Obama urging Congress to take swift action on his $3.7 billion plan, also telling critics pressing him to visit -- also telling critics who are pressing him to visit the border that this isn't theater. He isn't interested in photo-ops, he says. Homeland security secretary Jay Johnson will push the president's proposed fix during a Senate hearing today, but he'll be met with plenty of resistance, all of this following president Obama's meeting with Texas governor Rick Perry on this urgent issue. Senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta is following all the developments for us. Everyone is wondering though, what comes from that meeting though, Jim?
JIM ACOSTA, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT : Absolutely, what will come, Kate? President Obama will spend one more day in Texas, by the way, doing some fund-raising and giving a speech on the economy, but aides say he won't be making a trip to the border before he heads back to Washington. After meeting briefly with Texas Governor Rick Perry, the president called on Congress to act on his almost $4 billion plan to address the border crisis, but the president also dug in his heels and defended his decision to pass on a trip to see the problems at the border firsthand, calling that kind of move a photo-op. Back here in Washington his plan to deal with the tens of thousands of children coming into the U.S. from Central America faces opposition from both sides of the aisle. Even Democrats are raising concerns about a White House proposal aimed at speeding up deportations of Central American children. Top administration officials, as you mentioned, Kate, will testify at a congressional hearing on the president's emergency funding request later on today. A top White House official said the officials will tell Congress without that money they could run out of space to house the children down there on the border very quickly. John.
BERMAN: Thank you. Jim Acosta at the White House. For more let's bring in a Congressman that's really at the center of this discussion, Democrat Henry Cuellar from Texas. He plans to introduce a measure that would reverse a 2008 law signed by president George W. Bush supported by President George W. Bush at the time that would make it easier to process and deport undocumented immigrants from Central America more quickly.