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U.S.-China Strike Tourism Visa Deal; Expats Reach Breaking Point With Beijing Pollution; Leading Women: Ornella Barra; Eight Women Die During Sterilization Procedure In India; The World Remembers End Of World War I; Entire Villages Suffer Under Strain of Ebola; Sewol Ferry Captain Sentenced To 36 Years

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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.

Now world leaders meet face-to-face in Beijing, but did they see eye- to-eye?

Plus, details are emerging about a mass sterilization program that resulted in the deaths of eight women.

And the plan for net neutrality. The U.S. President says an open internet is essential to our very way of life.

We begin in Beijing where the leaders of the world's two largest economies have been meeting one on one following a summit of Asia-Pacific

nations.

Now, there was no public agenda for the talks between the U.S. President Barack Obama and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping, but analysts

say controversial issues such as freedom of the press and human rights may have come up.

And here now to talk about it is CNN's Jim Acosta. He joins us now live from Beijing. And Jim, in that one-on-one meeting with Xi Jinping,

did the U.S. president bring up those tough issues of press freedom, human rights and cyber spying?

JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we are told that that is going to come up. We have heard as of yet as to whether or not that's happened,

but the president and Chinese President Xi, as you said, Kristie, they will be meeting over dinner over the next couple of hours here in Beijing.

They've been cutting deals in the areas of business where they agree. They agreed on a tariff cutting deal earlier today. They're talking

through some of these issues where they disagree such as cyber security.

But the big development of the day so far I think, Kristie, is that the president did come face-to-face three times today with Russian

President Vladimir Putin. They spoke about Iran, Syria, the crisis in Ukraine. Deputy National Security Adviser for the Obama Administration Ben

Rhodes called Russia's recent military moves in eastern Ukraine a recipe for isolation.

But he did concede the sanctions imposed so far on Moscow have not changed Putin's behavior.

Now the president does have one more day here in China. And the big remaining question -- even though he's meeting with Xi now -- is just how

far the president is willing to go in criticizing Beijing over its record on human rights and hacking. So far that criticism really has been more

polite than pointed. And just as the president is raising U.S. concerns about cyber security. There are reports back in the U.S. about Chinese

hackers reaching the U.S. Postal Service.

And there are also reports, Kristie, that the Chinese here in Beijing were offended by the president's gum chewing. Mr. Obama was seen chewing

some Nicorette gum, which is a nicotine suppressing gum sold in the United States. The president chewing that while he was entering the APEC event

here earlier today. The Chinese may not be aware the president chews Nicorette gum so he doesn't have to smoke. It's something that we

reporters at the White House see him doing from time to time.

But no question about it, the president and Chinese President Xi, they have a lot of business to attend to. And we're waiting those readouts as

we're not in the room with the president and President Xi. We're waiting those readouts to find out exactly what they're going to discuss. But we

were assured by officials the president will be bringing that up in a very candidate fashion -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Now, Jim, you're certainly picking up all the key details of the U.S. President's visit there in Beijing. And while in Beijing,

President Obama announced that extended visa deal with China. Do you get the sense that his police priority with China is not about the tough

issues, it's all about business

ACOSTA: You know, that is -- that is the big question, Kristie. And I raised that question earlier today, you know, whether or not the

president's legacy in Asia -- you know, he's made a big part of its foreign policy; they're calling it the Asia rebalance -- whether his legacy will be

defined by these more business related achievements as opposed to whether or not to get China to agree to really move in the direction of the United

States when it comes to human rights, press freedoms and that sort of thing.

And what we heard from administration officials is that the president does press the Chinese on these issues. The question, though, I think in

the final analysis, Kristie, is whether the Chinese in the eyes of the United States makes strides in those areas. And that's just something

we're going to have to see over time.

But as you know, Kristie, from covering this region, we've been here in Beijing for the last few days. You can't -- if you walk outside of the

hotel, the press filing center for the White House press corps, you can't get on Twitter, you can't get on Instagram, you can't use Facebook. And I

went up to the Great Wall earlier today and talked to some Chinese citizens, talked to a man up there who said he loves President Xi, thinks

he's better than Chairman Mao, but wishes he could get on Facebook.

And I think that is what people are grappling with in China. They like their government. They like all their prosperity, but they want more

freedom. And I think they'd like the president to make a tougher case to President Xi about that issue -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yeah, and it's also interesting that in that environment there in Beijing is where the U.S. President made that call for more net

neutrality. And we're going to get into that issue a little bit later in the program.

Jim Acosta, though, reporting live from Beijing for us. Thank you so much indeed for that.

Now meanwhile, a fleeting moment this summit. And it happened right around this time on Monday. It quickly caught the attention of Chinese

censors. And you can see right there, Russian President Vladimir Putin, he was caught on camera putting a shawl around the shoulders of China's first

lady Peng Liyuan, the Chinese presidents' wife.

Now seconds later, she discretely slipped it back off.

Now social media had a field day right after this happened, but now there was almost no trace of it left on Chinese websites.

Now China's social networking site Weibo has noticed some other things that have conspicuously gone missing over the past two days in Beijing.

And this picture pretty much sums it all up for many Weibo users.

In fact, one person writes this, quote, APEC is here. The sky is blue. Traffic is smooth. Marriage registration is stopped. Can't get

travel documents, not even burning joss paper and wreaths at graveyards. So this proves that the government can do what they want to do, just

depends on if they're willing to do it or not."

Now this image, it was taken on November 3. Now the government ordered cars off the road ahead of APEC to clear the air. And now look at

this one, the contrast is so striking. This is also Beijing, but it was taken about one month earlier.

Now, one of the sites that monitors air pollution in Beijing has posted a notice on its home page. Beijing-air.com says it has received

instructions from authorities saying the Beijing government has the most accurate air quality readings so this month it will not be using the data

it normally gets from the U.S. embassy.

Now the notice goes on to congratulate the city for holding a successful APEC summit.

As David McKenzie now reports, some of the city's ex-pat workers are finding it all too much.

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DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Strutting their stuff in Beijing, fast fashion and facemasks. It's an accessory made for

the Chinese capital.

Runners needed them in the Beijing marathon as they choked their way through hazardous pollution.

For many ex-pats living in China, the final straw was the airpocolypse of 2013.

MICHAEL CRAIN, CONSULTANT: I really hit the wall. And I think every ex-pat goes through that.

MCKENZIE: After eight years here, Michael Crain (ph) is packing up and moving his family back to the States.

When the gray skies outnumbered blue, they knew they had to leave.

JOANNA CRAIN, TRAVEL MANAGEMENT: I went into the girl's bedroom and I flew open the curtains and I said girls look outside it's the most amazing

day and they literally jumped up and down and said yay, we get to play outside today. And you know that's just heartbreaking.

MCKENZIE: Companies are doing what they can to convince ex-pats to stay. Pollution bonuses and expensive air purifiers are some of the

(inaudible).

Still, they're finding it increasingly hard to recruit talent to China.

And you can see the pollution.

GUS TATE, SMART AIR FILTERS: Yes. It's...

MCKENZIE: At least some ex-pats are staying for the pollution, because it turns them a profit.

This filter costs less than $20.

TATE: Yeah. And we just thought well what happens if we just try to force air through this by itself. So we got a fan and started blowing air

through it.

MCKENIZE: Not exactly rocket science.

TATE: No exactly, no.

MCKENZIE: Smart Air promises to scrub your air with their canon device.

But air purifiers won't help you when you're outside.

MICHAEL CRAIN: I felt like it was just -- you couldn't get enough oxygen. And in fact that's what it was. So we came back here and I

remember we just laid in bed and watched movies all day. And you know that's not really a way to live a life.

MCKENZIE: It's moments like these that push ex-pats out of China. And Michael Crain says no amount of money would make them stay.

David Mckenzie, CNN, Beijing China.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: Now relatives close to the tragedy want South Korean prosecutors to appeal today's verdict against Lee Joon-seok, the ferry

captain involved in this year's deadly disaster off Jindo Island. He was acquitted of murder, thus avoiding the death penalty. Instead Lee was

sentenced to 36 years in jail on other charges including negligence.

Now most of the more than 300 victims were teenagers on a school field trip.

Now many of their parents responded to the sentence with outrage.

Paula Hancocks joins us now live from Seoul. And Paula, what are the prosecutors saying about their plan to appeal this verdict?

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie at this point they have told CNN that they will be appealing. It's not

certain at this point whether they're going to be appealing just the captain's verdict or whether they'll be appealing all 15 of the verdicts.

There was just one of the crew members who was found guilty of murder. This was a chief engineer. And the reason he was found guilty of murder is

because he saw two injured fellow crewmen on board but did not stop to help them, left them where they were and then went and left the ship himself.

So at this point, families are incredibly angry that there has been no one within the 15 who were on trial that have been found guilty of

murdering the passengers. But the three judges felt that the captain himself, for one, did not show any intention of murder. The captain

himself said he knows with his crimes he deserves to die, but he had no intent to commit murder.

And so certainly the prosecutors did not prove that intention to murder. And at this point they have said that they will appeal.

Within seven days they have to formally put that appeal through the system -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: All right, Paula Hancocks reporting live from Seoul. Thank you, Paula.

You're watching News Stream. And still to come on the program, state funded sterilization takes a terrible turn in India and why the practice

has human rights groups so concerned.

Plus, Barack Obama weighs in on the web. We'll tell you about the U.S. president's goal for net neutrality.

And touching -- remembrance ceremonies around the world as countries honor soldiers who died in World War I.

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LU STOUT: Welcome back. You're watching News Stream. And you're looking at a visual version of all the stories we've got in the show today.

We've already told you about the controversial prison sentence in South Korea for the captain of the capsized Sewol Ferry. And later, we'll

show you London's moving Armistice Day tribute to the lives lost in World War I.

But now, lets take a closer look at the U.S. President's push for net neutrality.

Now Barack Obama has voiced support for it in the past. And now the White House is calling on the U.S. Federal Communications Commission to

protect that founding principle of the Internet.

Now we have been following this battle for quite some time here on News Stream. But let's remind you what it's all about. Net neutrality

means that everyone has equal access to every website.

Now imagine the Internet as the information superhighway. Now the FCC is moving ahead with a plan that could give some companies priority access,

which is frequently compared to a fast lane. And remember, the plan rules only cover broadband and not mobile internet use.

Let's get more now from our regular tech contributor Nicholas Thompson. Of course he's the editor of the New Yorker.com. He joins us

now live.

Nick, good to see you. And why now? Why did President Obama make this bold statement in support of net neutrality?

NICHOLAS THOMPSON, NEW YORKER.COM: Well, it's hard to knows exactly why Obama did it now. But what's going on is that the FCC is coming up

with rules, so they've been accepting public comment and there have been millions of comments, crashed the servers of the FCC. People have been

writing in saying this is what you need to do.

And as this debate has been going on, Obama has stood back. And he sort of waited. And he's let the FCC think and ponder. And then suddenly

yesterday he came out and said you know what, I've had enough. No more compromising, no more looking for a middle ground, what I really want you

to do is to go full throttle in favor of net neutrality, and in fact I want you to change the whole regulatory framework for the way the telecom

companies are regulated in order to protect net neutrality.

So he came down in the biggest, hardest, most vehement way.

Why did it happen right now? It is a moment of public comment, it is a moment when people are weighing in. It's after an election. This is a

contentious issue, maybe he wanted to wait for that. And then I think the other reason he came down now is that it's right. I mean, I think he

genuinely believes deep down, and his advisers and the people around him believe that this is the best thing for America's economy and the best

thing for helping small technology companies grow.

You know, even back in 2007 Obama called himself a strong supporter for Net Neutrality.

But after making this bold statement, what will the FCC do? Will it act to protect an open internet?

THOMPSON: Well, this is the hard thing, right. The FCC doesn't have to do what Obama says. He is the president, but he can't just fire the

chairman. So the chairman could continue down his current path of looking for a middle ground and compromising with the telecom companies, or what's

more likely is the FCC will either agree with Obama, change the regulatory framework to protect net neutrality, or he'll use this as leverage with the

telecom companies.

What's happening right now in Washington is the telecom companies are extremely powerful. They give lots of money to a lot of congressmen, they

have a lot of influence. They have great lobbyists. They're really working the FCC. They've been demanding a lot.

Now that Obama has put the stake in the ground, the chairman of the FCC has a lot more leverage. And so you may actually find a compromise

that isn't all the way to Obama just insisted on, but that's much, much closer than the middle point of the compromise had Obama not done what he

did yesterday.

LU STOUT: And finally, what does Obama's bold push for net neutrality mean for the future of the internet?

THOMPSON: Well, I think it makes the future of the internet more promising. I mean, there is a very scary proposition that as you say the

internet will be arranged into a whole bunch of toll lanes and so it will become much more confusing if you're a startup and you want to get into a

business you won't have to just think about how good your product is, you'll have to think about whether it's really possible to get access on

Comcast, or can you really, you know, get access on this provider, maybe not, so maybe I shouldn't do this.

It will make it much more open, much more free.

What Obama has essentially said is that the internet should be regulated the way electricity is regulated. You turn on a light switch and

electricity flows. You can do whatever you want with that electricity. He's saying you can do whatever you want with the internet. You can built

anything, you can look at anything, and providers just have to provide the pipes that let the bits flow.

And I think you'll see a lot more innovation and I think you'll see a lot more small companies. And I think it'll actually be a lot better for

people.

LU STOUT: You just came up with the rallying cry for it. Let the bits flow.

Nick Thompson, New Yorker.com. Thank you so much. Take care.

THOMPSON: Thank you, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Now today is the biggest online shopping day of the year in China. It's called singles day. It's a Chinese holiday that started as a

way to celebrate being single, but has since morphed into a frenzied multibillion dollar online buying spree.

Now the event always falls on November 11, that's 11/11. You probably notice something here, those four single digits, they resembled four single

people.

Now back in 2009, China's online retail giant Ali Baba decided to capitalize on the shopping fervor by offering special discounts on 11/11.

Now since then they've brought in staggering sales every year and succeeded in repurposing Single's Day as a binge spending day.

Now, let's take a look at today's numbers so far. Now the ecommerce giant, it just went public. Is already smashing U.S. records. By 7:00

this morning here in Hong Kong, Ali Baba sales had already surpassed sales for Black Friday and Cyber Monday combined. By 1:31 p.m. this afternoon,

the retail giant beat out its own 2013 sales of $5.8 billion.

Let's keep in mind, though, Ali Baba maybe China's largest online portal, but at home it faces competition from rivals, including the

ecommerce firm JD.com. Now they have fast become a formidable competitor. And in the midst of Single's Day we heard from its company spokesman.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JOSH GARTNER, JD.COM SPOKESUNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think if you look at the traditional brick and mortar retail network in China, it's not

nearly as strong as it is in places like the U.S. or the UK. So, ecommerce is a very different phenomenon than it is in the U.S. where in the U.S.

it's a secondary piece of the retail story. In China, it's become a major -- essential part of the retail story, particularly as you look into

smaller cities and rural areas that had not traditionally had access to the kind of consumer products that you can get in the larger cities.

So, when you're looking at ecommerce in China, it's really a different animal than what you see in more mature markets. So, it's become much more

central to how people shop every day.

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LU STOUT: So, some context there from JD.com.

Now the Chinese ecommerce market is uniquely positioned to keep on getting bigger. It is already a $300 billion market that's likely to have

even more room to grow in the next few years.

Now you're watching News Stream. Still to come on the program, a mass sterilization effort in India has left eight women dead and that's merely

the worst of many disturbing details from the story.

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LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you're back watching News Stream.

In India, a mass sterilization drive has gone terribly wrong. It happened in Bilaspur district, southeast of the country's capital. At

least eight women are dead after undergoing the state-run surgery over the weekend and 48 others are in the hospital.

And the operations are part of a government effort to curb population growth. They have come under fire by human rights groups.

Now an autopsy report is expected by Wednesday morning. And for more, Sumnima Udas joins me now live from New Delhi. And Sumnima, we have eight

women dead, dozens hospitalized, what happened to these women?

SUMNIMA UDAS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Kristie, this is part of the Indian government's family planning initiative, that's what they're

calling it here, and that's been going on for decades. It's a way for the Indian government to reign the population here, which is expected to top

China's by 2028, becoming the world's most populous nation.

So what happens is in these states, in these local districts, health officials go from village to village setting up these mobile camps,

performing these sterilization surgeries for free and even giving a reward to a lot of these women, the equivalent to about 20 U.S. dollars, that was

provided to these women in this case as well.

Now we don't have the details of exactly what went wrong, that's all being investigated right now. The autopsy postmortem reports expected by

tomorrow, but we understand according to local media reports, only one doctor and his assistant performed these surgeries to all 80 women in just

about six hours.

LU STOUT: We're waiting for the autopsy report, but what can you tell us about the level of care and the conditions at these government-run

mobile clinics that carry out this sterilization surgery?

UDAS: The conditions really depend, you know, state to state, district to district. Some of them are fine in cities like Delhi and

Mumbai, are states closer to this part of India.

But Chatiska (ph), this is where this event happened. In states like Chatiska (ph), which is one of the poorest states in India, you can

certainly expect the conditions to have been very, very basic, perhaps even grim.

Again, officials are looking into what exactly happened in this case. But we've seen many pictures in the past of women just being brought to

these sort of health camps. They have been asked to, you know, lie down wherever they can. If there are beds, fine, if there are no beds then just

on the ground in the gardens. And these surgeries are just performed one after the other. And the women are just left there to fend for themselves,

no medication thereafter, no information provided as to what they have to do afterwards to take care of themselves at home.

So this is what we've seen in the past. But this is the first time, at least in the past few years, that we've seen these kind of deaths as a

result of these surgeries -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Now a very, very disturbing development. Sumnima Udas there reporting live from New Delhi, we thank you for your reporting.

Now you're watching News Stream. And still to come, the New York City doctor who battled Ebola is cured and free to go home. Just ahead, we take

a look at the latest on the global epidemic.

Plus, honoring those who made the ultimate sacrifice during the First World War. After the break, how the armistice anniversary is being

remembered across Europe.

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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream. And these are your world headlines.

Now the U.S. President and his Chinese counterpart met one on one at the APEC summit in Beijing. Their agenda was likely to cover trade between

the world's two biggest economies. But analysts say controversial topics like press freedom and human rights may have come up.

A South Korean court has sentenced a ferry captain to 36 years in jail for the April disaster that left more than 300 people dead off the

country's southern coast. Now prosecutors wanted the death penalty and say they plan to appeal. The ferry's chief engineer was convicted of murder

and received a 30 years jail sentence.

At least eight women have died in central India after undergoing sterilization surgery. 48 others are hospitalized and seven are in

critical condition. Now the women went to a government run mobile health clinic for the operation on Saturday and later fell ill. Now these mass

sterilizations are part of a government effort to curb population growth.

A somber day today as the world marks the end of the First World War 96 years ago.

Now in Belgium, a ceremony has been held at the site of a long and intense battle between German and Allied forces. In Paris, French

President Francois Hollande laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier beneath the Arc de Triomphe, and in Canberra, Australia, thousands

of people there gathered at the national war memorial. More than 60,000 Australians died fighting the so-called War to End All Wars.

And every year in the UK on Armistice Day, the nation pauses in silence at the 11th hour to mark the end of what's been called the Great

War. And this year, one century after the war started, a sea of red ceramic poppies have been set up to honor the lives that were lost.

Max Foster takes us there.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MAX FOSTER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A moment to remember the Great War, which cost so many lives, which is illustrated in spectacular

fashion by this installation that wraps itself around the tower of London.

In total, there are 888,246 handmade ceramic poppies here, each representing a British of colonial life lost.

The last one was planted by 13-year-old Harry Hayes (ph) whose great- great-great uncle died in the war. So one of these represents a life lost in his family and brings it home to the current generation.

More than five million people have come here in huge crowds daily to see this installation, but no sooner is it complete than it starts to be

broken down. On Wednesday, they'll start to be unpicked and sent off to members of the public who each paid $40 to keep a memory of this

spectacular display.

Max Foster, CNN, London.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: It is a very breathtaking tribute there.

Now the New York City doctor treated for Ebola will soon go home. Now doctors have cleared Craig Spencer Ebola free and say he does not pose a

threat to the public.

Now Spencer will be discharged from New York's Bellevue Hospital later today. He contracted Ebola while working with Doctors Without Borders in

Guinea.

Now meanwhile, the Ebola outbreak remains concentrated in West Africa. And according to the World Health Organization the virus has killed nearly

5,000 people, roughly 1,100 of them are in Sierra Leone.

Now ITN's Alex Thompson traveled to one part of the country to see how entire villages are suffering.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ALEX THOMSON, CHANNEL 5 NEWS: We're heading out from Freetown toward Kwama, where contacts have said four people died. Before we can even get

there, we have to stop at Devil Hole.

So, we have got one - one person is dead there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, two people dead here.

THOMSON: One person dead, several apparently dying. You dial 117 for emergency services here, and they're supposed to come for the sick and the

dead. It's after 11:00. They have been calling 117 since 7:00.

PASTOR ALBERT, SIERRA LEONE: So, I called 117 this morning at least to tell them what happened. They responded to my conversation, but he told me

that they would be here very soon.

THOMSON: So they wait with no protective equipment here, angry, frustrated, frightened.

The house you're seeing 50 meters away is, the villagers tell me, the house where this man lived. Now, that's not where his body is. His body has

been moved some, I don't know, 80, 100 meters down to the other side of the road here. He's lying under that tree right now. The problem is, how did he

get there? The villagers say that he was moved there. That happened with at least two or three people without any adequate protection at all.

That's a near certain way of catching and therefore spreading Ebola. Worse, the villagers tell us the men who carried Osman Gobondo to his last

resting place have fled into the jungle. Not far off, we're taken to see where Aminati Gobondo, one of the man's three wives, lies desperately ill

with Ebola.

People here don't understand why nobody has come to help. A policemen arrives very close and without protection, but what can he do? When you're

in Devil Hole, the international aid limit for Sierra Leone looks to be too little and too late.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the contract tracer. They are the guys who can, like, follow the history of people who have contacted the disease.

Once somebody (inaudible) who they might have come into contact with, just so that they can follow the trail of the virus.

THOMSON: Sure. So, what's your name?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Vincent Trojas.

ALEX THOMSON: Vincent, who are we going to see? Who is here?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're going to see two of the patients here that have been infected with the virus.

THOMSON: OK. And Vincent introduces us to two more sufferers. This is Vincent Gorma.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has been vomiting blood.

THOMSON: Right.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Eyes are red. He's feeling weak.

THOMSON: His wife sits at some distance, and we can do little more than phone the Red Cross again and offer them water.

A mile up the road at checkpoint Yuton (ph), they take your temperature and attempt to stop the spread. But in this isolation tent sit four more

suspected victims, 16 more in the village nearby. Clinics in the region turned them away. "We are full," they said.

We finally make it to Kwama, a ghost village, self-imposed 21-day quarantine after four people died.

ALPHONSUS KANGBO, HEADMASTER OF LOCAL SCHOOL: In case there is anyone died, no one should wash the body, no one should touch the body unless the

burial team - so, for now, to prevent further cases, what we are planning to do is to quarantine the whole village.

THOMSON: An aid team gets to work to cordon off the area.

FATHER FRANCIS PATRICKSON, SOCIETY OF MISSIONARIES FOR AFRICA: Now, Sometimes, I use my own car to pick up. And of course I don't touch them.

And I use my gloves a helmet always in the car. I put - I allow them to get into the car. I take them to the holding tent.

THOMSON: Are you concerned for your own safety?

PATRICKSON: Yes. I mean, I don't touch them. When the people speak about my own safety, I used to tell them that I have my prayer and my

prayer. I'm a Catholic priest.

(LAUGHTER)

THOMSON: Yes. OK. Well, good luck with that, Father. Good luck with that.

Aminati still lay in Devil Hole, her breathing now rapid and shallow. The body of her husband, Osman, is in the white Red Cross vehicle next to her.

But they only do body collection. They say it will get worse before it gets better here. The first part of that is certainly true.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: That was ITN's Alex Thomson reporting from Sierra Leone.

Fighting Ebola is more than just a question of doctors and clinics. Now health officials say education is crucial.

Now in a UNICEF blog, Dr. Peter Salama wrote this, quote, "the outbreak of Ebola is a twin epidemic. One is a viral epidemic and one is

an epidemic of global fear and ignorance. But with fear and ignorance sadly comes stigma and discrimination. Both most be defeated."

Now one frustrated Twitter user recently tweeted this map of Africa for the, quote, geographically challenged to put the outbreak into

perspective.

You're watching News Stream. I'll be right back after this.

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LU STOUT: Now what you do is more important than how you look. That advice from Ornella Barra, a chief executive at the health and beauty brand

Alliance Boots. And she sat down with CNN's Nina dos Santos to talk about her road to the top and investing in yourself.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ORNELLA BARRA, EXECUTIVE, ALLIANCE BOOTS: Work harder, work with passion is my mission and my life.

Good morning, everybody.

NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A strong entrepreneurial spirit, that's what Ornella Barra says drives her. Barra

is a chief executive at Alliance Boots, a more than $35 billion drug and beauty chain. She oversees brand development and the company's wholesale

division, which supplies pharmaceutical drugs around the world.

As we walk through the aisles here with all of these drugs, this brings you back to your roots. You are a pharmacist, aren't you at heart?

That's what you were trained as?

BARRA: Yes. I am a pharmacist.

SANTOS: Barra got her start in her home country of Italy, first managing and then owning her own pharmacy.

She then became a pharmaceutical wholesaler and that's when she met the man who would become her business and life partner of nearly three

decades, Stefano Pessina.

You're clearly very driven. When you started out in business (inaudible) would you ever have thought that you were running this?

BARRA: Very important for me to (inaudible).

To understand, to learn, to improve.

SANTOS: Would you say that being a woman has helped you to lead a company like this?

BARRA: I believe my gut feeling is very important.

SANTOS: Barra says that gut feeling can be an advantage in making business decisions, but admits that she doesn't always get things right.

Has there been a time during your career either here or before when you thought, oh, no, I've really made a big mistake.

BARRA: Of course. This is very important recognizing the mistake and the second to learn.

SANTOS: The pragmatic approach to her career, which has times has earned Barra the reputation of being cold and distant.

BARRA: To be pragmatic, to be concrete and sometime the view for the other is to be cold, to be distant.

My style is the opposite, I'm very open, very warm. Is more important to do, you know, to appear.

SANTOS: To appear.

BARRA: I prefer to translate in Italian.

SANTOS: What you do matters more than how you appear.

BARRA: Exactly.

SANTOS: Doing is the essence of that entrepreneurial spirit. And the work ethic this executive brings to her job is something she shares with

those who are just starting their careers.

BARRA: I believe it's very important to invest in yourself.

SANTOS: When you say invest in yourself, what exactly do you mean?

BARRA: To be proactive, to work hard and not let go.

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