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More Protests Over Lack of Indictments; Hagel Defends Rescue Mission; "Hagupit" Batters the Philippines; Former Supermodel Alleges Cosby Raped Her in 1982; Fierce Battle Over T-Rex Dinosaur Fossil

Aired December 7, 2014 - 16:00   ET

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FREDERICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Breaking windows, attacking police and looting stores. Chokehold protests take a violent turn overnight, but will there be a repeat tonight? That's next.

Then, a new look inside the failed rescue attempt of two hostages in Yemen including an American photo journalist. And why Chuck Hagel is defending the mission.

Plus, President Obama paying a surprise visit to the hospital. But a lot of unanswered question remained. Sanjay Gupta weighs in next.

Hello again, everyone. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. Welcome to the CNN NEWSROOM.

No word on if there will be more protests and a bigger police presence in Berkley, California tonight. We begin with the look of the violent overnight in protests demanding justice in the death of Eric Garner. This after demonstrations turned violent last night with protesters smashing windows and throwing bricks at police. Six people were arrested and two officers injured.

Dan Simon is in Berkley.

So Dan, is there an expectation of more protests tonight or is it mostly an issue of cleaning up now?

DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right now they're cleaning up. In fact, here at this Trader Joe's you can see the boards on the window and the store has reopened. We know that some people are trying to organize a protest tonight. We will keep an eye on that situation.

But just for context, Fredricka, let me tell you what this protest was. This was not a Ferguson, Missouri situation. There was not widespread vandalism. We didn't have any fires. There weren't really many people hurt. That said, the pictures were very dramatic as police fired tear gas into the ground. Take a look.

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SIMON (voice-over): Chaos on the streets of Berkley, California. Protesters demanding to be heard after grand jury decisions not to indict police in Ferguson, Missouri, and New York turned violent. Breaking windows and throwing what they could at the hundreds of local police stand in full riot gear. Police used tear gas to disperse the crowd.

JENN COATS, BERKLEY POLICE SPOKESWOMAN: Berkeley is known for protests, you know, protests and the first amendment, and we do everything we can to ensure that people can peacefully exercise their freedom to express themselves. In this case, our response occurred because, you know, the group of protesters did become violent. They did start throwing rocks and bricks and bottles. Also small pipes were thrown at our officers.

SIMON: Two police officers were injured in the melee and several arrests were made. Local business workers shocked that the demonstration turned so ugly.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: Next thing you know that window breaks, that window started breaking. These two windows break.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) a customer and we had to take them out the back. I had to call the police and like describe what was going on.

SIMON: The overnight violence follows several days of protest in the area and across the country.

In New York and in Washington, D.C. Saturday, hundreds of protesters conducted several die-ins, taking over train stations in both cities as well as major department stores.

CNN's Nick Valencia was on the scene.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): right now, we're standing in front of Toys R Us building where this group has decided to walk in to stage another die-in. You can see some of these demonstrators behind me. It's been a very fluid night here in New York City. These demonstrators are determined, they say, to have police reform in New York City and to show them that the spotlight will continue to stay on this story for the days and weeks they say to come

SIMON: Back in Berkeley, it's unclear what tonight will bring but for some the hope to be heard without violence will be loudest voice of all.

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SIMON (on camera): As we said, it is calm right now here in Berkeley. But we know that some people are trying to plan a protest at 5:00 tonight. That said, it is supposed to rain this evening. So we'll see if that keeps some of the protesters away. Fred.

WHITFIELD: And then Dan, some officers had gotten -- received some injuries? To what extent?

SIMON: That's right. We are told that two police officers received minor injuries. One of them had a dislocated shoulder but nothing too serious. Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Very good. Thanks so much. Dan Simon, in Berkeley.

So outrage and disbelief over the lack of indictments in the deaths of Eric Garner and Michael Brown have been expressed across the country for the second straight week of pro football players speaking silently. Today it was a member of the Cleveland Browns wearing the simple message, "I can't breathe" at the back of his shirt.

Our Nick Valencia is in New York. So Nick, what are people thinking and feeling there today?

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the demonstrations here in New York have continued throughout the weekend. So far we have seen more intimate crowds here. Just goes really to what we saw in Berkley, California where Dan Simon was. There have been largely peaceful demonstrations.

Earlier today, we caught up with some carol singers. The Justice Carolers, they call themselves, a group of 30 people who went to Penn Station and they had a sort of modern twist on traditional Christmas carol songs. One of them is "All I Want for Christmas is an Indictment." Others saying they are dreaming for a mixed christmas.

Caught up with one of them in the crowds who is actually a professional opera singer and she said it was very important for her to come out and show her support for Eric Gardner.

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SUZANNE MENTZER, OPERA SOPRANO: I'm singing tomorrow night in (INAUDIBLE) so maybe they will fire me if they see me using my voice out in the cold. I'm very happy to take a risk. It's no risk. It's a terrible situation.

VALENCIA: This must be very important for you.

MENTZER: It is very important, yes.

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VALENCIA: And we're expecting another demonstration to happen here in Union Square in New York City at about 5:00 p.m.. We don't know the crowd estimate but if it's any indication from what we saw yesterday, there was well over 100 protesters that marched through the streets going all the way from Grand Central Station through Times Square. They actually even flooded a Toys R Us and went straight for the toy gun section and staged a die-in protest there.

So far we have not seen very many demonstrators out here so far but they say that they will be coming, they will be showing up and they are determined to keep this story out there, despite the frigid temperatures here in the city, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Nick Valencia, thanks so much. We will be watching. Appreciate it.

Moving overseas now, Syria said it came under attack today by Israeli war planes. Israel has not confirmed reports on Syrian television but it has carried out air strikes against Syria in the past. This time a warehouse near the airport was reportedly targeted. Syria also says a second air strike was carried near the coast. No casualties were reported in either case.

And we continue now overseas where defense secretary Chuck Hagel is defending a U.S. special ops rescue mission in Yemen that ended with the deaths of both hostages. American photojournalist Luke Somers and South African teacher Pierre Corkie. It was the United States' third attempt at rescue mission in recent months.

And today, during this visit to Afghanistan, U.S. Secretary Hagel pushed back at suggestions that there may be significant problems with the planning of these raids. Hagel said "an immense amount of focus and timed and review goes into each of these operations."

Joining us now from the White House, CNN's Sunlen Serfaty. So Sunlen, what more are we hearing about the operation?

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fred, U.S. officials say that this mission ultimately failed not due to operational error but because that element of surprise was taken away.

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SERFATY (voice-over): The mission extremely risky and made urgent when U.S. intelligence shows American Luke Somers would be murdered by Saturday morning. By mid morning Friday, the president authorizes the rescue giving no hint of the drama about to play out.

Just a few hours later, according to U.S. officials, two v-22 Osprey under cover of darkness touchdown in a remote area of Yemen, some six miles from the compound where the hostages are held. About 40 special force commandos, mostly Navy S.E.A.L.s moved undetected over the rough terrain but suddenly everything goes wrong when just 300 feet away they are exposed, maybe by a barking dog.

A fire fight breaks out and a U.S. drone watches overhead, one terrorist went back inside and shoots both hostages. U.S. forces kill five (INAUDIBLE) terrorists and the rest flee. And in one of the most dangerous parts of the mission, a combat medical team needs to spend a half hour on the ground trying to stabilize the two gravely wounded men. Finally, they are flown back to the USS Macken Island (ph) off Yemen's coast. But one dies on the way and another dies on the ship.

JONATHAN GILHAM, FORMER NAVY SEAL: You have to look at this from a very surgical point, just like heart surgeon or a brain surgeon. Some will live, some will die.

SERFATY: As word of the failed rescue mission leaks out, the president called the Luke Somers' killing "a barbaric murder." Vice President Biden promises that the U.S. will be relentless in seeking justice.

JOE BIDEN, U.S. VICE PRESIDENT: The women and men, special forces who were engaged in these two rescue missions, did an incredible job and inflicted serious damage on the captors. But this time -- this time they were unable to save Luke.

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SERFATY: And we're told President Obama monitored this mission from the White House, really following along with every step in realtime. Fred.

WHITFIELD: And then let's talk about the president's health. And why he went to that hospital in Bethesda Walter Reed and what now? What's the prognosis?

SERFATY: Well, President Obama has acid reflux. This is what the White House is telling us. They say that he's been complaining of a sore throat for the last few weeks and he saw the White House doctor and there was an indication he had some inflammation in his throat. So the White House doctor recommended that he go to the hospital to have a round of tests, a CT scan.

Now the White House told us that this was done out of an abundance of caution. They say that the scan came back normal. And they say no biopsy was done or planned. Of course there are still a lot of questions that remain. The president is a well documented former smoker. The White House emphasizing that he has quit. But it does bring up questions whether potentially his history of smoking put him at risk. Here is what CNN's Sanjay Gupta has to say.

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: If he is still smoking, we don't know, obviously. If he is though, then that certainly could be contributing to his current symptoms of acid reflux. Smoking definitely makes acid reflux more likely and worse.

But based on his past history and again, this is an abundance of caution. We hear the CT scan was normal but you got this sort of history of smoking, you got these symptoms of acid reflux, a CAT scan could be being performed to be sure there is no other mass or something that may represent cancer or swelling of the lymph nodes. Again, nobody is saying that is what occurred here. The CT scan was read as being normal. That is the sort of abundance of caution. You want to look at that area very thoroughly.

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SERFATY: And White House official tells us that the condition has had no impact on the president's routine or schedule over the last few weeks while it's been bothering him. Fred, we will hear from President obama in just under an hour. He has a previously scheduled event here at the White House, a reception to honor Kennedy Center (INAUDIBLE).

WHITFIELD: All right. That's always a lot of fun. All right. Thanks so much, Sunlen. Appreciate it.

All right. Overseas, a typhoon batters the Philippines. Rain and heavy wind whipped trees back and forth as you see right there. We take a look at how bad the damage is.

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WHITFIELD: At least two people are dead after a typhoon "Hagupit" slammed into the central part of the Philippines. The slow moving storm is losing strength as it moves northwest across the country and dumps heavy rain. About 40 million people were in the path of that storm. Those who made it through the storm so far are telling their survival stories. Here is CNN's Andrew Stevens.

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ANDREW STEVENS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Giving heartfelt thanks, the Tacloban Existentialist Church to surviving a second major storm to hit the city in a little more than a year.

Sunday mass, a serene break from this church's new role as an evacuation center. 1500 people, almost the entire parish cramming together with their belongings and pet to ride out "Hagupit."

(on camera): How scared were you that there could be another "Yolanda"?

UNIDENTIFED FEMALE: Really scared because I really -- I imagined what happened last year but I have to trust god.

STEVENS (voice-over): Some left at first light but many are staying longer until the typhoon is clear the region or until their damaged homes are repaired. For virtually, all in the city it stirred raw and painful memories of a little more than a year ago.

18-year-old Art Martinez (ph) lost both parents when they stayed too late to escape Typhoon Haiyan's devastating storm surge. As he shows me the remains of his family home he says he evacuated early this time but said he was still terrified.

ART MARTINEZ, HAIYAN SURVIVOR: I'm the only one who was still awake and still praying god please help us, please help us. I know that you will help us.

STEVENS: Do you think he did?

MARTINEZ: Yes.

STEVENS: Reminders of what happened here a little more than a year ago are hard to miss. They are also potent symbols of the bitter lessons learned. The most important of those, to get out of harm's way and to get out early.

(voice-over): Nearly 50,000 people fled to evacuation centers, churches and schools even private families took strangers in. Most voluntarily, some forced. Authorities here are not going to have a repeat of last year.

But in the end, "Hagupit" did little more than crush Tacloban. Damage limited to localized flooding, downed trees and roofs ripped through shanties. Parish priest Father Eliot (INAUDIBLE) of the REdemptorist church says people have resigned themselves to the fact that storms will always be a part of their lives.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: They encountered so many questions like that. Is it the will of god or the wrath of god? But now, no, we feel that it is just part of nature.

STEVENS: A part of nature they pray won't revisit the city any time soon.

Andrew Stevens, CNN, Tacloban, the Philippines.

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WHITFIELD: And CNN's Impact Your World is keeping track of charities who are helping on the ground there in the Philippines. To find out how you can contribute, go to cnn.com/impact.

All right. Former President George W. Bush looking ahead to 2016, just like the rest of us. What he says about his brother or his sister in law making a run. An explanation with Candy Crowley, after this.

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WHITFIELD: While the U.S. government is releasing six detainees from the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center in Cuba, the Senate Intelligence Committee, this week, is expected to release a report on CIA activities including interrogation of terrorists.

Chief political correspondent Candy Crowley is anchor of "State of the Union." So Candy, you talked to Congressman Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee about this report. What's in it? And what is the chairman saying about it.

CANDY CROWLEY, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, we don't know for sure but we can take a guess. Let's just say that so far, the nickname for this report is the torture report. Officially, it's not that.

But nonetheless, it's an investigation into the CIA and its activities during the Bush era. So we expect to hear what the U.S. specifically did, the CIA specifically did with terrorist suspects.

Also, we are expected to hear although not by name which -- about countries who helped the U.S. both detained and interrogate prisoners. Sometimes those countries have chosen precisely because they didn't have rules about torture. So this -- what does Mike Rogers' think? Mike Rogers thinks it's a very bad idea to make this stuff public.

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REP. MIKE ROGERS (R-MI), CHAIRMAN HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: This is a terrible idea. Our foreign partners are telling us, this will cause violence and deaths. Our foreign leaders have approached the government and said you do this -- this will cause violence and deaths. Our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths. That tells you something -- this is more than just differences on what happened.

And then you have to ask this -- what good will come of this report?

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WHITFIELD: All right. And now, let's talk about a presidential politics for a moment, 2016.

You interviewed former President George W. Bush in your program and we know he is pushing his book about his dad, 41. But it seems at every turn his brother keeps coming up in these interviews. At least, he made it very clear, he was anticipating you are going to ask him about Jeb.

CROWLEY: He absolutely did. In fact, I was asking him one question that was going one place and he said, "Oh, is this the Jeb question?" So he is used to it. You can get mixed up because you're talking about 43 as the son, George Bush, is called who is writing a book about 41. And being asked questions about 45. So, the question here has always been is Jeb Bush going to run. For two brothers who say that certainly as they became adults, they became closer, 43 has absolutely no idea whether Jeb wants to be 45.

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GEORGE W. BUSH, FMR. U.S. PRESIDENT: He's not a guy who sends signals. He'll say yes or no when he feels like it.

CROWLEY: You've often referred to Bill Clinton, when you talk about his relationship with your father and how developed and your mother as well and he's your brother from another mother. What does that make Hillary Clinton to the Bush family?

BUSH: My sister-in-law.

CROWLEY: Interesting. Do you think that your brother could run against your sister in law?

BUSH: Yes. And I think he'd beat her.

CROWLEY: (INAUDIBLE).

BUSH: Very much so. No question (INAUDIBLE).

CROWLEY: So you'll take that bet.

BUSH: Absolutely.

CROWLEY: You think she'll run.

BUSH: Of course, you're not going to make it because you're an objective newscaster.

CROWLEY: That's why I'm asking you. BUSH: I think she'll run, I have no clue. I have no clue. But I know this, like Jeb, she knows what's it like.

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CROWLEY: You know, at another time, Fredricka, I asked him a question about Jeb and he said, "Oh, you know, if I have to reiterate it, run, Jeb, run." So you know, one vote right there.

WHITFIELD: Yes. But you know, I have a hard time believing that George W and Jeb do not talk about it. Because I know he told you in the interview "we haven't talked about it." Huh?

CROWLEY: I know. Exactly.

And he doesn't talk to his father about, you know, whether he should go into Iraq. He didn't talk to his father about any of that but actually I do believe it. I don't think they talk family business at the Thanksgiving dinner table.

WHITFIELD: OK. All right. We'll leave it there then.

As a reminder to everyone -- and thanks so much, Candy Crowley. We can hear more of that interview with President Bush next Sunday on "State of the Union," 9:00 a.m. Eastern. Always a pleasure. Candy Crowley in Washington.

CROWLEY: Thanks, Fred.

WHITFIELD: And a "Washington Post" bureau chief in Iran is now facing charges. What we know about his case, coming up.

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WHITFIELD: Bottom of the hour now. Welcome back. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. Here are some of the top stories we're following right now.

Six detainees from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay Cuba are now in Uruguay. Four Syrians, a Tunisian, and a Palestinian were flown there overnight and given medical exam. All six men have been cleared for release nearly five years ago. But it took years to find a country willing to accept them. The United Nations will eventually repatriate them with their home countries. Gitmo has more than 750 detainees in 2002. Today, it has 136.

A "Washington Post" correspondent detained in Iran since July has been officially charged with unspecified crimes. The paper says Jason REzaian who holds dual American and Iranian citizenship has been it's bureau chief since 2012. The paper says the Iranian government has not given him a reason for arrest and has denied him access to a lawyer.

New York City is about to experience a major royal event. Prince William and Duchess Katherine are due to land in New York about 30 minutes from now. Their three day visit includes a visit to the 911 Museum, an NBA game in Brooklyn and a day trip to Washington, D.C. to meet President Obama.

Tonight, CNN observes a holiday tradition. "CNN HEROES, AN ALL STAR TRIBUTE." Join us as stars turn out to salute 10 extraordinary people who give back all year long.

The event airs tonight at 8:00 Eastern. Here's CNN's Michaela Pereira.

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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: At first glance it might look like every other award show -- the "CNN Heroes, an All Start Tribute" hosted by Anderson Cooper is an event like no other. Here 10 every day people doing extraordinary work to help others takes center stage and the stars turn out to honor them.

UNIDENTIFED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) so many people are being honored for doing good just because it just pushes humanity forward.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: It basically recognizing people people for what we should be doing every day, just kind of thinking beyond ourselves.

UNIDENTIFED FEMALE: I'm here with my daughter because that's what I want to teach her, that the individual really can make a difference.

PEREIRA: Individuals like a man who helps people with disability get stronger inside and out.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is my honor to hug the weightlifter with the biggest heart ever, Ned Norton.

PEREIRA: A woman who works with messi to save lions from extinction and a rabbi with a black belt who helps kids fight cancer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Given the opportunity, these children can inspire the world.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're killing me, CNN. You got me sobbing all up in my chardonnay.

PEREIRA: It's a night full of emotion.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Those are my babies.

PEREIRA: Laughter.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: My friend, Kathy Griffin.

KATHY GRIFFIN, TV PERSONALITY: Thank you, Jake Tapper. Hi, everybody.

PEREIRA: An uplifting message.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Even in the darkest of places, decency and love can persevere.

PEREIRA: And performances that inspire. And it ends with a life- changing moment.

COOPER: The 2014 CNN Hero of the Year.

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WHITFIELD: And that's just a taste of what is to come, watch the entire show, "CNN HEROES, AN ALL-STAR TRIBUTE" tonight at 8:00 Eastern p.m. We will be right back.

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WHITFIELD: At least 21 women have now gone public claiming to have been sexual assaulted by entertainer, Bill Cosby, over a span of four decades, among them, former super model, Janice Dickinson.

I visited her at her Beverly Hills home this week and she tells me about the alleged rape, the fall out, and what she hopes will happen next. And a warning some of what you will about to hear is graphic.

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WHITFIELD: What has held you back all of these years from telling the story in detail until now?

JANICE DICKINSON, ALLEGEDLY SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY BILL COSBY: I remember being humiliated, disgusted -- I had revulsion towards Cosby. And Cosby was a very powerful man and probably still is. You know, I trusted this man and I stuffed it.

I compartmentalized it because I was embarrassed. I was afraid for my career, you know? I was very excited when I got a telephone call, you know, when I was in rehab from Cosby --

WHITFIELD: You were 27 years old. He was roughly about 45 years old at the time.

DICKINSON: I don't remember how old that monster was at the time, but I do remember that I was young, I was innocent, and I was very excited to get a call that I was going to be, you know, offered this job on "The Cosby Show," you know? And I went for it, I trusted him. He was a married man, you know, so how could, you know -- he wouldn't do anything to me.

WHITFIELD: When Bill Cosby did reach out to you in 1982, what was the conversation? What was the picture that he painted for you that you said, even though, I am a supermodel right now and my career is taking off, he is the connection I need for it to go even further. What was promised? What did you believe what happened?

DICKINSON: I believe the tone of his voice. How are you? I'm going to offer you a part on "The Cosby Show." I want you to fly here and you know, get here, you know, in the next day or two. I took the bait. I jumped at this opportunity.

WHITFIELD: You're excited. DICKINSON: I was rearing and ready to go. He said I hear you want a singing career. I can help you with that. So when I arrived in Tahoe. I was met by Bill and a gentleman who worked for him, he was his musical director. I remember him saying to me at this dinner when he offered me red wine. What kind of man offers me red wine when I get out of rehab? I was susceptible and very nervous and excited.

WHITFIELD: He knew about your situation and how potentially fragile you were at the time?

DICKINSON: He called me in rehab. He knew what I was in rehab for, for alcohol. That in itself is really messed up.

WHITFIELD: At what point did you find yourself alone with Mr. Cosby? You trusted him, but then things went a different direction in your view?

DICKINSON: Mr. Gardner, Stew Gardner left the dinner table. I was alone with him and I had menstrual cramps. He said, I have got something for that and he gave me a pill.

WHITFIELD: Did you ask what it was?

DICKINSON: I don't remember that. I don't remember, but if he's giving me a pill. I trust the guy. I trusted Bill Cosby. So he gave --

WHITFIELD: Why did you feel like you trusted him?

There was a lot going on. You're saying you were -- he reached out to you and did he say anything to you, did he promise you that you were at the time a successful model.

DICKINSON: Because of his demeanor and the promise of a career and you know, I trusted him and I wanted a television career. I always had -- I had had a successful career, for commercial, I wanted to take it to the next level.

WHITFIELD: You are telling me you were in rehab. You were still very fragile. He offered you wine. That was a no, no in your view, but now he offers you a pill and you still trust him?

DICKINSON: It was red wine. It was a pill. When I started to black out I had a Polaroid camera on me. That's when I took several photographs with it. I remember shooting these pictures and having them on me the next morning.

When I woke up, the last thing I remember, I blacked out and Cosby mounting me like the monster that he was and I was thinking what the heck was that? I remember more specifically waking up and that he there was a lot of pain downstairs.

There was semen all over me and my bottoms were off and the tops were open. I just packed up and I got the hell out of there.

WHITFIELD: What was going through your mind at that point when he came to you and you had this discovery? What were you thinking and feeling at that moment?

DICKINSON: I remember being extremely angry that I had been violated. I remember feeling disgusted at him, but more importantly I was disgusted at myself. I should have gone and reported it to the Nevada police. You know, but I wasn't thinking.

I was only thinking of stuffing it inside an area so deep in my subconscious that it is now coming up and I am sober today through the grace of God and I have crystal clear memories of this entire incident and this rape. I'm not out to get him.

I'm out to tell my side of the story so I can protect any woman in the world against this monster, Bill Cosby, and against anything or that could rob innocence like mine had been violated and taken away from me.

WHITFIELD: How do you prove that when it's your word against his?

DICKINSON: I should have gone the police. I was too embarrassed and disgusted. Can I prove it? I can't produce a stain on my pajamas and I can't produce the semen that was there. I didn't go in for an examination of my womanhood down there.

I didn't rape counseling or any of that. Had I known I would have? Look how it's blowing up now on me. I am not lying. You were not there. I can prove it. Put a lie detector test on me and put a lie detector test on the attorneys and put a lie detector test on Mr. Bill "Monster" Cosby.

WHITFIELD: How much has hearing from the other women who alleged sexual assault by Bill Cosby the details that they have given, how much has that assisted you in coming out and talking publicly about what happened to you in 1982? How much does that also help you in recalling in detail what happened to you in 1982?

DICKINSON: I remember the memory and being robbed of my innocence and I believe the women that I have not been in contact with. I believe their story because it was the exact same thing happened to me. As an individual woman, I am Janice Dickinson and I am the world's first super model and this took place in 1982.

And it took place in a hotel room in Lake Tahoe and he was wearing a bathrobe and a velvet hat and a gold watch. I didn't do the right thing. I didn't report it or go to rape counseling and you know what? I was afraid, but I'm not afraid any more. I'm now strong and I have support and I will go on with my story until my last breath.

WHITFIELD: One of the most recent accusers -- I don't like the word accuser.

DICKINSON: I don't like that word.

WHITFIELD: Why is that?

DICKINSON: I am not an accuser. Why am I the bad person that got raped? I'm not accusing him. I'm telling you my story that took place.

WHITFIELD: If he chooses to speak on his own and he has after an appearance and I do have a portion of what he said. He said I know people are tired of me not saying anything, but a guy doesn't have to answer to innuendos. People should fact check. People shouldn't have to go through that and shouldn't answer to innuendos.

DICKINSON: People? Screw you, Bill. You know damn well that he's not going to take any responsibility on this and neither are his attorneys. He says innuendo, I said, you raped, Bill Cosby. You raped me in 1982 in Lake Tahoe.

WHITFIELD: What do you want from Bill Cosby right now? What do you need to hear from him? What does he need to do?

DICKINSON: You know as well as I know that Cosby and his attorneys will not take responsibility on this. They speak of innuendos. They say no comment. They say I'm a liar. I would like Cosby to come out and at least acknowledge that he is a pig. That he is a monster and he has raped me.

WHITFIELD: Thank you, Janice Dickinson, a pleasure.

DICKINSON: Thank you, CNN. I'm sorry.

WHITFIELD: Don't apologize. You know.

DICKINSON: I don't know how to process this. I do not know how to process these emotions, you know? I'm going to meditate and go to church. This has affected me.

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WHITFIELD: And we did ask for permission if it was OK to continue airing that portion of the interview even after we said thanks and she did say it was all right.

In the meantime, a lawyer for Bill Cosby responded to Miss Dickinson's claims. Martin Singer saying this, quote, "Janice Dickinson's story accusing Bill Cosby of rape is a lie. There is a glaring contradiction between what she is claiming now and what she wrote in her own book and what she told the media back in 2002.

Miss Dickinson did an interview with the "New York Observer" in September 2002 entitled interview with a vamp completely contradicting her new story about Mr. Cosby," end quote.

That's from Martin Singer, the attorney for Bill Cosby. I did speak with Dickinson's ghost writer and he began working with Dickinson in 2001 on her book "No Life Guard On Duty" and Dickinson did give him graphic detail of the alleged rape.

But he never included it in a written draft to the publisher because he said without corroboration from Cosby, he knew the allegation would never have made it through the vetting process and make it in the book. Now tomorrow night at 9:00 Eastern, don't miss a CNN Tonight special, "The Cosby Show, A Legend Under Fire." It airs right here on CNN, tomorrow night at 9:00 Eastern. We will be right back.

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WHITFIELD: It's considered one of the world's greatest fossil discoveries. Peter Larson with South Dakota's Black Hills Institute was thrilled when his team discovered Sue in 1990.

But he didn't realize this dinosaur fossil would lead his team into a ten-year legal battle with the U.S. government and other groups, who all claimed ownership. The upcoming CNN Film, "Dinosaur 13" recounts the fascinating story and the moment when the FBI agent first came to confiscate the find.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Somebody called me and said the FBI has got crime scene tape. I hung up the phone and went down as fast as I could down in the institute. I don't know how many agents they had, 30 some people or whatever. It was insane.

I didn't think about it. I just went to the specimen. That was my concern. I could see the idiots try to pack up my dinosaur. How dare they? How dare these people do this?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't imagine somebody being able to do this here in the United States of America in a free country.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In order to insure that this dinosaur can be carefully packed up, we helped.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was pretty clear that they didn't know what they were doing. These people didn't know anything. Most of these guys hardly go out in the field at all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I said to Kevin, you just tell me and that fossil won't go anywhere.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That request was denied.

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WHITFIELD: Wow. Can you feel the tension there? Joining me right now is Bill Harlan, a former writer at the Rapid City Journal in South Dakota, who we just saw a clip of.

You wrote dozens of stories about this, but this does under underscore the real conflict between the passion for the fossils, the passion of discovery and legally, whether you have the right, you know, to get your hands on.

BILL HARLAN, FORMER RAPID CITY JOURNAL WRITER: It turned out to be a real legal swamp. WHITFIELD: It did indeed. This documentary underscores that because we are talking about the discovery of this t-rex and while the paleontologist thought great. Let's collect it, remove it and take it elsewhere. It's federally enforced land, Native American land, and they negotiated with the landowner, but then that was done illegally?

HARLAN: The fossil was sold for $5,000. What the federal prosecutor determined was that Morris Williams did not have the right to sell.

WHITFIELD: And that was the landowner? The Souix tribe?

HARLAN: The Indian owner of the land did not have the right to sell his land unless he had permission from the Department of Interior.

WHITFIELD: Which he did not for the $5,000.

HARLAN: Yes, he did not have permission to sell his own land. The other part is they ruled the fossil was land rather than personal property.

WHITFIELD: Interesting. Because it had mineralized and the thought and feeling was because of that, it was indeed a fossil. But the other thought is no, it's real estate.

HARLAN: Nobody really knew how good it was. It was still in the ground. The question arises if they had taken the fossil outside of the ground, would have it have been personal property? That was kind of the weird legal facet of this that nobody anticipated.

WHITFIELD: And the legal battle is really what is so fascinating about this documentary. Ultimately, that landowner did receive more than $7 million from Sothesby's for the auctioning off of the fossils. In that factor this legal bottle was resolved in terms of who was allowed to remove it and under what circumstances.

HARLAN: Right. The custody of T-rex named Sue was decided in civil court, but after that was decided, the investigation of the Black Hills Institute continued and later there was a massive criminal indictment, which turned out to be the largest criminal prosecution in the history of the state of South Dakota.

WHITFIELD: It's incredible. Bill Harlan, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Nice meeting you.

That's going to do it for me. Thanks so much for being with me this afternoon. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. Much more news and everything else in the NEWSROOM straight ahead.

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