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Prison Break; Video of Terror Suspect Killed by Law Enforcement Released; Police Officer Pulls Gun at Teenage Pool Party. Aired 8-9p ET
Aired June 8, 2015 - 20:00 ET
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[20:00:08] ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: Hey, good evening. Thanks for watching.
Tonight, two convicted killers are on the loose right now, David Sweat and Richard Matt, here they are. Sweat on the left killed a sheriff's deputy. The victim's sister joins us separately. Matt kidnapped a former boss, beat and tortured him then snapped his neck, cut off the body and dumped the pieces in the river. To call either man dangerous, that is putting it mildly.
So if you see them call 911 and police say be very, very careful because Matt already has experienced fleeing the country. They could be almost anywhere tonight.
They also may have had help doing what they did. What they did was breakout of one of the biggest, toughest and most remotely located maximum security prisons in the state of New York. How they did it? How they cut and crawled their way out of the Clinton correctional facility? And done it more is something straight out of the movies.
We are following this all night starting with Randi Kaye.
RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They were supposed to be in their beds and adjoining cells. But instead before dawn Saturday, a routine check turned up something else.
GOV. ANDREW CUOMO, NEW YORK: They weren't actual dummies but they had clothing on and it looked like people were sleeping in the bunks with a sweatshirt, hoodie on.
KAYE: One of a handful of clever moves by this crime duo, Richard Matt and David Sweat, both convicted killers. They were last seen around 10:30 Friday night in their cells during a standing count. Their bunks were also checked every two hours during the night, but it wasn't until 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning that a guard sounded the alarm.
COMMISSIONER ANTHONY ANNUCCI, NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS: The search revealed that there was a hole cut out of the back of the cell for which these inmates escaped. KAYE: A hole in the cell, the men cut their way right through a steel
wall using power tools that still no one knows how they got. The escapees then somehow followed a catwalk that's six stories high, eventually snaking their way through an elaborate maze of pipes before shimmying through tunnels.
The prisoners got their first taste of freedom in years when they popped out of that manhole right there at that yellow tape. This is actually the closest that we're allowed to get to it. And it was a pretty bold exit plan because right over there is a health club, and it's surrounded by homes in this quiet neighborhood. So anyone who might have been outside and might have seen them could have quickly called police.
The manhole is just a block and a half from the prison, where New York governor Andrew Cuomo retraced the men's steps. These are dangerous men. Sweat was serving life without parole for killing a sheriff's deputy in 2002. Matt was behind bars for 25 years to life after murdering and dismembering a man back in 1997.
The convicts are the first to escape from maximum security at Clinton correctional facility since it opened in 1865, leaving behind this note dripping with sarcasm, it reads "have a nice day."
So many unanswered questions for authorities, how this prison break go unnoticed with regular bed checks? How could the guards not have heard the sounds of the power tools? And perhaps the biggest question of all, where did those power tools come from?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're looking to see if possibly one, a civilian employee or a contractor was assisting this escape.
KAYE: Meanwhile, despite more than 150 tips, a $50,000 reward for each man and intense search efforts involving more than 250 law enforcement, helicopters and bloodhounds, there is no sign of the escapees.
So there are these checkpoints all over town as they are trying to find these guys.
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You can see why with checkpoints all over town. The community is on edge, but these guys are determined to find the two inmates.
With the prison just 25 miles south of the Canadian border, authorities are concerned, warning those to the north there are killers on the loose.
COOPER: Randi joins us. What do we know about the female prison employee that investigators questioned today? KAYE: Anderson, she was questioned as a possible accomplice. She
apparently knew these two guys pretty well. She worked with them tailoring clothing inside the prison. Now, she was questioned. She wasn't charged. She wasn't arrested.
We are also learning some more information today about whether or not these two guys might have been caught on surveillance tape. State police say that there is limited surveillance tape from inside the facility and it hasn't proven to be very fruitful.
We also wanted to know about cameras at the street corner where they came up through the manhole. It turns out there aren't any cameras on that corner either. So authorities really have very little to go on. They don't know if they left on foot or someone might have met them at that manhole, Anderson, and picked them up in a vehicle.
[20:05:29] COOPER: And this note that they left, a smiley face, does anyone have any explanation for what that means?
KAYE: No, it's certainly one of the most bizarre items that they left behind. They are not sure what it means. They're wondering, some have suggested that maybe it means they were digging to China, that maybe that is the message. They are also wondering if there's some type of Asian racist message in there as well. But it certainly a big you know what to the prison crew here, certainly a nasty message left behind by the guys, it seems like nobody here can figure it out exactly.
COOPER: Yes. I mean, especially incredible breakout.
Randi, appreciate the update.
Just to give you some idea of how much the prison dominates the local landscape, consider this. According to local chamber of commerce, it's the second largest employer in the entire county and a major job source for the people of Dannemora, including mayor of the village who oversees the prison laundry, Michael Bennet.
Mayor Bennet joins us now.
Mr. Mayor, thank you very much for being with us. Beyond being mayor, you have also worked in this prison for 18 years. Do you know the woman who Randi just reported on? Are you familiar with the people who do the tailoring or how any of that works?
MAYOR MICHAEL BENNET, DANNEMORA, NEW YORK: No, I never worked with that woman. She's at a different part of the facility.
COOPER: In terms of the situation in the town right now, I know because you're an employee of the prison, obviously, you can't speak about what happened or the details of it, but how is the town reacting to this?
BENNET: Well, initially, there was shock, you know, obviously this has never happened before. There was fear, you know, amongst a lot of people. But being a prison town, a lot of the people within the village work for the department of corrections and I'm really amazed at how well the people are handling it, and I think a lot of that has to do with the high number of law personnel that are in our village right now.
COOPER: We saw Randi Kaye, our reporter, getting her vehicle searched as she went through a checkpoint. What kind of police presence are you seeing? You said you're seeing large numbers. Are there a lot of checkpoints up?
BENNET: There's a checkpoint on just about every corner within the village. The department of correction is doing most of the checking in the village and the state police are on the outskirts of the village.
COOPER: What advice do you have for residents, people coming up to you or from surrounding areas about these two, while they're still at large?
BENNET: Well, my main thing would be make sure you keep your properties secured and, you know, be aware of your surroundings at all times. And if you happen to see something, you know, make sure you call the state police.
COOPER: Have you ever heard of anything like this out of this prison in particular?
BENNET: No, this is the first time this has ever happened to my knowledge.
COOPER: Are there a lot of cabins, places where people could hide out in the surrounding areas?
BENNET: Yes, there's numerous areas different hunting camps. There's numerous areas they could be hiding.
COOPER: And in terms of getting to Canada if that was a destination, how complicated is that?
BENNET: Well, it's a walk but it could be done, you know. We're not that far from the Canadian border. But I would have to bet the troopers and other law enforcements are keeping a close watch at that area.
COOPER: I know authorities have contact the Canadian authorities as well.
Mayor Bennet, I appreciate your time. Thank you.
A lot more to come, including the specifics on what these two were doing time for, victim's sister joins us.
We'll also talk to a pair of former top U.S. marshals about the patterns that fugitives follow and why some manage to stay on the loose longer than others.
And later someone who did 24 years in prison, some of it at Dannemora for a crime he did not commit. He will tell us what life is like inside this facility. The facility many called little Siberia.
[20:13:25] COOPER: Our breaking news tonight, the search for the killers who broke out of a New York prison and could be almost anywhere where you at. There is a lot of more information that we have been gathering just over the last 12 hours or so. And even into this night.
Take a look, David Sweat on the left, Richard Matt on the right, one a cop killer, the other Matt quite literally a butcher and someone with prior experience on the run.
Now, in a moment, what will it take to actually catch them, but first their very bloody resumes, Deborah Feyerick has more.
DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Vicious, cunning, extremely violent, that's how a retired detective describes now 49-year-old Richard Matt. Matt was convicted in 2008 of kidnapping his ex-boss William Pickerson Sr., who owned a food delivery business.
At the trial, an accomplice testified the man he called Rick Matt tortured the elderly businessman, tossing him in a car trunk for 27 hours before snapping his neck. And it didn't stop there. Matt then dismembered Pickerson's body. The accomplice testifying quote "he cut up the torso and he said that he threw the legs in the Niagara River." Before he could stand trial for that murder he escaped to Mexico where he soon killed another American in a bar. He was thrown in a Mexican prison and extradited to New York to stand trial for the Pickerson homicide. Years earlier, in upstate New York Matt had escaped a different prison facility while serving time for burglary.
CUOMO: He's a really dangerous, desperate man. They are literally killers.
[20:15:01] FEYERICK: The second fugitive is 35-year-old David Sweat. He is serving life without parole for the 2002 murder of Brume county sheriff's deputy Kevin Tarsia. Sweat and an accomplice had just robbed a gun store when they were confronted by the deputy shooting him at least 12 times. At the maximum security prison from which the men escaped, Matt and Sweat had adjoining cells, who worked in the prison tailor shop with a female employee now suspected of helping the two men break out.
Deborah Feyerick, CNN, New York.
COOPER: Well, for some, you can imagine this is deeply personal. Sharon Tarsia is the late deputy Tarsia's sister. She joins us by phone.
Sharon, what went through your mind when you heard that the man who killed your brother had escaped in prison?
SHARON TARSIA, BROTHER KILLED BY ESCAPED PRISONER (via phone): I said oh my God, no way. I couldn't believe. I got to read it twice to make sure and sure enough it was my brother, I just couldn't believe it.
COOPER: What kind of guy is this David Sweat?
TARSIA: I think he's very evil and he was there as the things on as he did to my brother. I just can't believe it. I don't know how he could do what he did to my brother. I just -- And then he gets ran over and shot and it's just, I just -- I can't even stand the thought of it.
COOPER: Do you believe the prison is at fault here? That maybe they should have been able to, you know, keep a better eye on these guys? They should been able to keep them behind bars?
TARSIA: Yes. I think they should, because I don't know how anybody could drill a hole through a steel wall and not hear a drill. So, it just seems suspicious.
COOPER: Is this guy somebody you have thought of in the time that he's been incarcerated or after the trial after he was convicted of killing your brother, is it somebody you kind of put out of your mind?
TARSIA: I never put him out of my mind because I always think about what he did and how awful this guy is, and you cannot stop thinking about it, what he did. It just will never go out of my mind.
COOPER: Tell us about your brother. What kind of guy was he?
TARSIA: He was very supportive, like he always gave me advice, like if I ever needed advice he was right there. He always helped me out, and he would help anybody. He was a good cop and even if he pulled somebody over, you know, he'd try to give them a chance.
COOPER: Well, Sharon, I'm sorry for what you're going through, what your family is going through right now. Let's hope they catch this guy quickly, thank you.
TARSIA: I, do, too.
COOPER: A lot more did.
More now on how fugitives run and how they get caught, more importantly.
Joining us is Lenny DePaul. He is former commander of the U.S. marshal service regional fugitive task force for New York and New Jersey. Also, Robert Fernandez who currently runs a similar task force covering the Washington, D.C., area.
Now Robert, I know your division of the marshal service is helping run down leads right now. How concerned are you about these two fugitives? How much of a danger do you believe they pose? CMDR. ROBERT FERNANDEZ, U.S. MARSHALS CAPITAL AREA REGIONAL FUGITIVE
TASK FORCE: We're very concerned. Guys like this, they just have nothing to lose, with the sentences they were serving on the run. My fear is for the patrol officer, the uniformed patrol officer might pull them over unknowingly for some traffic violation.
COOPER: Lenny, I understand you believe these guys might be on the run together because of what your sources have told about their relationship in prison. What do you know about them?
LENNY DEPAUL, FORMER U.S. MARSHALS SERVICE TASK FORCE COMMANDER: It's a good possibility, Anderson. I'm not, you know, completely sure and can't confirm or deny that, but they were very close in prison. As they said earlier they didn't share a cell, they were next to each other. They were always seen together in the yard, they ate together for the past several years. So you know, they are friends. Are they together? We don't know.
COOPER: If they stay together, does that make it easier from a law enforcement standpoint because you essentially don't have to separate manhunts going on?
DEPAUL: Exactly. I mean, you know, you got one manhunt at that point. But if they do split up, I mean, several leads are going to come in from a variety of different areas and whatnot that need to be vetted and certainly our folks and our task force working with the New York state troopers, they are not going to leave any stones unturned. So they're doing a full court press and I know we made both of these guys one of our top, two of our top 15 fugitives wanted fugitives in the U.S. marshal service. So we'll dedicate all our resources and equipment and manpower and money to get these two apprehended as quick as possible.
COOPER: Robert, how difficult is it to track down fugitives in a situation like this? And we're talking about a remote area, there aren't a lot of surveillance cameras. I talked to the mayor who says, you know, there's a lot of hunting cabins around that may be unoccupied that somebody could use, obviously, close to the Canadian border.
[20:19:58] FERNANDEZ: Well, it's very difficult. But I have great faith in the New York state police department and our task force up there. And they have the cooperation of our entire agency.
But more than that, what we need is the public to help. And that's why I don't want to speculate whether they're together or apart because we have seen, and Lenny knows we've seen it happened they are arrested together, they split up when they get help but I don't want a hotel clerk who may have seen one of them not call because they think they may be together.
So we -- anything is a possibility. We really need the public to call in. And especially with some of the specifics like the tattoo on the guy's fingers, that "IFB", that is something a cabbie or convenience store clerk or someone might remember and just don't hesitate to call. We have that number. It's up on the screen or you can put it up on the screen and we will, we have people answering that phone 24 hours a day, ready to follow up on leads anywhere across the country.
COOPER: Yes. We have the tip line up right now and will throughout the hour.
In your experience, Lenny, I mean, is there a pattern, do fugitives tend to stay close, try to wait it out, try to get as far away as possible, as quickly as possible or is it just impossible to say every case is different?
DEPAUL: Every case is different. You know, there's no telling. I mean, do these guys get help from the inside, there is all sorts of speculation going on. The investigators are going to down range doing the investigation. The lead investigators, I'm sure, have interviewed the right people, from prison guards to workers. I know there was a lot of renovation being done inside the prison. And there was a lot of equipment that could have been used and apparently was used for their breakout, you know. What was their plan B once they got out, if there was help on the inside, were there phone calls made, was there money brought into the prison, were their meetings done on the outside by, you know, folks on the inside.
So there is questions that, of course, I don't have the answers to but I'm sure they're crossing their Ts and dotting their Is in the command post.
COOPER: And certainly, Robert, part of what law enforcement does is check who has been to the prison to visit them, phone calls that were made and obviously past associations that they had prior to getting to that prison.
FERNANDEZ: Absolutely, we leave no stone unturned. We are going to check past acquaintances, family members, we're doing interviews, surveillance. We're doing everything to help the New York state police department. And even if people have, knew these guys before, don't hesitate to call. Call us and let us know if you know friends that they had, girlfriends, family members, any of that can help us in our investigation.
COOPER: And Robert, when people say, you know, we're going to close the Canadian border, they are afraid of them crossing over to Canada, does that really matter in terms of the manhunt? I mean, obviously, relations with Canada are very good, Canadian authorities have already been notified.
FERNANDEZ: Yes, it's a very good possibility, because they are so close but we have a Canadian liaison program, we have monthly meetings with Canadian law enforcement authorities. They have been notified and we are in contact with them. And we can chase them there if we have to.
COOPER: All right, Robert Fernandez, I appreciate your expertise, Lenny, as swell. Lenny DePaul, thank you.
Just ahead, the maximum security prison the two convicted killers broke out of is known, as I said, as little Siberia. Tom Foreman shows us why it is called that. And also how rough it is inside the prison walls.
Plus, the video many hoped would set the record straight was the fatal shooting of Boston terror suspect justified? We will walk you through the blurry images the sheriff deadly take down.
[20:27:21] COOPER: Tonight, there is breaking news. The intense manhunt for two escaped killers is growing. David Sweat and Richard Matt were serving lengthy murder sentences in a maximum security prison in the farthest regions of upstate New York.
Now, as we've said over the weekend they broke out of their cells into the bowels of the prison and eventually surfaced through a manhole. How they were able to do this and who may have helped them still a big mystery.
Tom Foreman joins us now with more on the prison itself and the surrounding areas.
TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In a phrase, Anderson, it is in the middle of nowhere. This is in the north country of New York. It is very sparsely populated, only about 25 miles from the Canadian border and full of a lot of woods and a few scattered homes and hunting cabins. Lots of places to hide out. In fact, it's so far north and so cold so much of the time many of the inmates refer to this prison as little Siberia.
It's separated from the outside world by a 60-foot wall and the world inside can be a very harsh place, starts with the inmates. Look at the numbers on all of this, about 2,000 inmates inside the main prison there, 90 percent of them are in for violent crimes. That is a high number. It is the biggest prison in the stage.
The median age also matters here. Because look at that, 39, and the median minimum sentence 14 years, all of this is a formula for a very potential violence in this area. Beyond that, there is more. The racial makeup really counts here, the vast majority of these inmates are black or Latino, three-quarters of them. And yet with more than 900 corrections officers here, only a very tiny sliver or anything other than white officers, five in one recent survey were Latinos. Everybody else is white.
Again, possibly a cause for tension, when you look at the whole situation and they have had tension here before. Three-quarters of the inmates in a recent survey by an inmates advocacy group say they have subjected to racial harassment. Beyond that, they say that fights are common. And the suicide rate is quite higher, one of the highest in the state, high among a lot of prisons. So Anderson, all of that adds up to a place leads up to a very difficult place for any inmate to live.
COOPER: And Tom, basically, the much of the economy, the region relies on this prison, right?
FOREMAN: Yes, that's why it is so hard to fix all of this because this has been here since the 1800s and this whole town out there, 45,000 people absolutely rely on the jobs connected to this prison and there are other towns up in New York that have a very similar equation. So every time they talk about, maybe taking it down or moving it or changing it in some substantial way, local politicians will say, look, there could maybe a lot of jobs lost here. And that makes meaningful change, very difficult despite its troubled history -- Anderson.
COOPER: Tom Foreman, thanks very much. Jonathan Fleming knows just how tough it is inside the Clinton correctional facility. He served nearly 25 years there after he was wrongfully convicted of murder. It's a story in and of itself. Wrongfully convicted of murder. Last year, he was finally exonerated, cleared in the killing and free and Jonathan Fleming joins me now. Thank you very much for being with us.
JONATHAN FLEMING: Thanks.
COOPER: When you heard that these two guys were able to escape did it surprise you?
FLEMING: Yes, it surprised me very much, because of its security there, because security is real tight. So, I was very surprised to hear that they escaped.
COOPER: When you're serving time there, do you know, I mean do you have a sense of the layout of the prison? Because it seemed like these guys knew the bowels of the prison, the structure, where to go?
FLEMING: We don't know the layout of the prison. The only thing we know, we know where the yard is at, we know, where the programs is at, the mass hall and stuff like that, but we don't know the layout of the prison. No, we don't.
COOPER: How do you think they could have found that out?
FLEMING: Well, my opinion, I really think for some reason that it had - some kind of way they had a map, I believe it was an inside job. I really do.
COOPER: Because also, the fact that they had access to equipment, drills and things like that, you were saying if you got, there's drills in the shop in the prison shop but you have to check those out and you have to return them and if they're missing that's a big deal.
FLEMING: Yes, that's always. If you go to a program and you are in your shop and you take out a hacksaw blade or a hammer or whatever you take out in the shop, you have to return it and you have to give them your I.D. card to get these tools, even if you were an electrician or if you are plumber they give you a toolbox, when you leave the shop you have to come back with that stuff. So if anything ever comes up missing they'll shut everybody down who was in that program. And they'll look for that tool.
COOPER: They were in an area where they got special privileges because of good behavior. What kind of privileges would they get? Is it - I mean is it sort of just extra time watching television, to you know?
FLEMING: Well, as (INAUDIBLE) on block, they have stoves, because you know, in regular population they don't have stoves. So, you know, they have stoves, they have refrigerators, their cells stay open all day except during the count time when they take the count, so all of the privileges they get and also, they get recreation every night, because in Clinton one half of the jail gets rec one night and one gets it other night. So, they get to go out with both sides of the prison.
COOPER: CNN has been reporting that there's a woman who has been interviewed who apparently worked with them in the tailoring shop inside the prison. I didn't realize, are you familiar with the tailoring shop? Is it making clothes?
FLEMING: Yes. I'm familiar with it. They make all the facility clothes, they make all the prison clothes for the whole New York State, they make the pants, the shirts, so this is that's what they do.
COOPER: So, she would be an employee or I mean she would be from outside the prison, who comes in and works there?
FLEMING: Yes, she would be a civilian that actually comes inside and works every day. They have a few of them that run the tailor shop.
COOPER: How tough was this facility compared to others you were in? Was this different in some way than others?
FLEMING: Clinton is about the same as all the other maximum facilities. They're about all the same. Basically they are all brutal. It's brutal. You know, it's a brutal existence with no hope when you're in prison.
COOPER: No hope.
FLEMING: That's right, no hope.
COOPER: I mean this isn't about this breakout. But I just have got to ask you after 25 years what is it like to have been exonerated? I think I would be furious.
FLEMING: No, I don't have no anger. I'm just blessed that I'm out here, you know, and I'm just happy living life. I mean it happened. There's nothing I can do about it, but just live the rest of my life.
COOPER: How has the adjustment been?
FLEMING: The adjustment is good. I actually just got my right hand in fellowship Sunday, I just got my right hand in fellowship yesterday, I'm in church, you know, I go to a church called First Baptist Church in east Elmhurst, New York, Pastor Young is my pastor. So, you know, it's a great experience for me. I'm at the church every day ...
COOPER: That's really good. FLEMING: You know, I help out, I volunteer at the church and everything.
COOPER: Well, I appreciate you coming in to tell us what you know about this facility and it's really an honor to meet you.
FLEMING: Thank you very much and thanks for having me.
COOPER: Yes, good to have you. Jonathan Fleming.
A quick reminder. We've got the tip line up right now, the bottom of your screen, that's the number to call if you have any information that might lead to the capture of these two fugitives just ahead. We'll also walk you through the newly released video showing that fatal shooting of the Boston terror suspect. Does it clear up some crucial questions about the deadly takedown?
Plus this ...
A pool party erupts in chaos. A police officer throwing a 14-year-old girl to the ground, waving his gun at other teenagers, the fallout ahead.
COOPER: Today, authorities released a video that so many were waiting to see. It shows the fatal shooting of terror suspect Usaama Rahim. He was killed by law enforcement officers who say the 26-year old man was wielding a knife. Now, before the fatal encounter, Mr. Raheem had been under 24-hour surveillance. Authorities say they'd learned he was planning to attack police officers. Their use of deadly force now under investigation. Obviously, the video made public today does answer some questions, doesn't exactly shed any light on some others, the images are blurry. Alexandra Field walks us through them.
ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Shots fired by an FBI agent and a Boston police officer, terror suspect Usaama Rahim falls to the ground. The takedown captured by a surveillance camera 50 yards from the shooting. Moments earlier the man the FBI has been watching around the clock heads toward a bus stop, three officers approach, two more follow. Authorities say the suspect is armed with a military style knife. The video shows the officers backing up, then two of them fire deadly shots. Watch it again slowed down, you can clearly see the suspect moving forward and the officers retreating.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAM EVANS, BOSTON POLICE: We approached this individual just to question him. No one could have foreseen what unraveled at that point. I don't think at this point he was going - going to go down very easy.
EVANS: There were multiple, multiple requests for him to put down that weapon. He was given every chance.
FIELD: In a statement, Raheem's family says the video does not prove that. The video does not show Mr. Rahim possessing, holding or brandishing a weapon of any sort much less a knife. The video does not show Mr. Rahim plotting, scheming or planning an attack on law enforcement officers. To the contrary, the video depicts Mr. Rahim walking toward a bus stop on the way to work. The video does not show Mr. Rahim as the initial aggressor. On the morning of the shooting police say they intercepted a phone call indicating Rahim was ready to attack, the 26-year old telling his father a final good-bye. Court documents revealed he had purchased three knives and that days earlier he told an associate "I'm just going to go after them, those boys in blue."
A Facebook post written under an alias shows Rahim believed he was on the FBI's radar as early as 2012. "Damn FBI calling my phone. He said, sir, we have some allegations regarding you. I came by your house a few times but kept missing you." The FBI isn't commenting on the Facebook posts, but after years of surveillance, officers stepped in on Tuesday, trying to stop Rahim from boarding a bus. The surveillance camera also catches a school bus passing by. Officials say one officer noticed the bus and waited for it to pass before opening fire.
COOPER: Alexandra, this video, I mean does it change things in the investigation much?
FIELD: Well, you know, Anderson, as you point out the images are blurry, but it does give some perspective on what happened out here. So, it will be considered by the district attorney as he works to determine whether or not charges should be brought here or if the officers were justified in their actions. Typically, a video like this wouldn't be released until the end of an investigation, but given the controversy that surrounds so many police shootings, the district attorney in this case felt it was appropriate to release this to the public and Anderson, just to allow the video to speak for itself at this point.
COOPER: All right, Alexandra Field, thanks very much. There is a lot more happening tonight. Amara Walker has a "360" bulletin. Amara.
AMARA WALKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, a grand jury has indicted Michael Slager, a former North Charlestown, South Carolina police officer on a murder charge in the fatal shooting of Walter Scott in April. He was shot in the back after he fled during a traffic stop. If convicted, Slager could face life in prison.
Another scathing report on the Transportation Security Administration, an Inspector General says the agency failed to flag 73 airport workers with links to terrorism during its vetting process and that's because the TSA did not have access to the terror watch list information it needs to make those judgments. Changes are being made so that information can be accessed. And a "360" fall, St. Mary's Medical Center in West Palm Beach,
Florida, has stopped doing elective open heart surgeries on babies. This comes just days after Elizabeth Cohen reported the hospital's death rate for the surgeries was more than triple the national average. An expert said its surgeons do not have enough experience to do the operations safely. Also, a federal investigation of the hospital is under way.
And take a look at this photo that has surfaced showing a lion poised to attack in South Africa, just moments before a New York woman inside the SUV was mauled by the animal and then killed. Just terrifying.
COOPER: Incredible. Amara, thanks very much.
Up next, a pool party chaos caught on camera. Teenagers clashing with police, one officer pulling his gun throwing an unarmed girl in a bathing suit to the ground. The protest rallies under way right now. These are live pictures. We have a correspondent there. We'll check in with him, and - to keep you on the controversy, next.
COOPER: Breaking news. You see it here. Protesters turning out right now in the wake of that chaotic confrontation between teenagers and police outside a pool party in a Dallas suburb. The incident was caught on video. Take a look.
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COOPER: Police running - And at one point an officer throwing an unarmed girl in a bathing suit on the ground and pulling out his gun pointing at a teenage boy, all of this as officers try to gain control of the crowd. The officer in question is now on administrative leave. Some in the community say it's all tied to race, others who live there are coming to the officer's defense. Nick Valencia is where the protest is happening joins us now. Nick?
NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They decided to march against a police brutality, what they call excessive force, they started just a little while ago, around 6:30 local time making their way from a local elementary school and marching to the site of Friday's incident. As you mentioned, while some people believe that this was a case of teenagers getting out of control, other people think that this would have been entirely different had these teenagers not been black.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get on the ground. I told you stay. Put you [EXPLETIVE DELETED] on the ground.
VALENCIA: Panic at a pool party. The smartphone captures the tense moments after police arrive at a subdivision in McKinney, Texas.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On your face.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN (YELLING)
VALENCIA: The seven and a half minute video posted to YouTube over the weekend goes viral. The officer seen wrestling a 14-year-old girl in a swimsuit, pulls his gun towards the crowd.
VALENCIA: On Sunday, he was placed on administrative leave.
CHIEF GREG CONLEY, MCKINNEY POLICE: Well, we did see the video. At this time I'm not prepared to talk about anything in particular, but we want it, in watching the video we did want to conduct a full investigation into it.
VALENCIA: The father of the girl in the video posts on Facebook. He alleges his daughter was targeted because of her race and that the officer should "be fired immediately after twice striking my daughter and violently beating another teen girl for being black." But not everyone is outraged at the officer.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think he deserves a medal for what he did.
VALENCIA: This McKinney resident was a witness. She says she's afraid to go on camera, but wants people to know the truth about what happened.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I completely support him, drawing his weapon, or a taser or whatever it was that he did pull, because he was being attacked from behind.
VALENCIA: Benet Embry also lives in the subdivision, and was at the pool party.
BENET EMBRY, MCKINNEY RESIDENT: What this is, it was a teenage party gone out of control.
VALENCIA: He says there's a lot we didn't see before the video starts.
EMBRY: What you missed before you missed the fights that were happening, you missed the security guard trying to escort the people who were jumping over the fence in the pool trying to escort them out. What you also missed is the police officer telling people to go home, go home, go home. Not every cause is a just cause for us to be up in arms about. Is there certain things that we need to be addressed and focused on, absolutely, but this is not one of them.
VALENCIA: In this subdivision, 45 minutes north of Dallas, manicured lawns and crisp brick homes surround the community pool. A perfect place for a party, a side hangs at the site of Friday's incident. "For now the pool is closed for treatment."
COOPER: So, Nick, we heard about it a little bit earlier from that gentleman, but does - do we know exactly what happened at the pool party and the reason the police were called? There were fights?
VALENCIA: Initially, Anderson, that's right. A fight was reported here, neighbors that I've spoken to said that they called because they saw a fight happening, they saw teenagers getting out of control. Some of the teenagers, though, that we talked to believe that they were targeted, there has been reports that racial slurs were thrown in. Some of those teenagers I talked to, one resident who said who witnessed it, even before the cell phone video started recording, and he didn't hear that, but others have. And as I mentioned here, the community here is very divided. By and large, the residents that we've spoken to here are vocally supporting the officer, defending his actions, others calling for his abdication. Within the last hour, Anderson, we heard from the police union here in McKinney and they say that this was absolutely not racially motivated and there is no way that anyone in the police department here practices bias or racial beliefs.
COOPER: Nick, I appreciate reporting. I want to bring in Harry Houck, CNN law enforcement analyst, a retired NYPD detective. Regardless of what happened at the pool prior to the video rolling, which is obviously an important part in all of this, just watching what we see in the video the officer clearly not de-escalating the situation, or if he's trying to do that, doesn't seem to be doing it by, how do you see him handling this 14-year-old girl?
HARRY HOUCK, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, I don't think he handled that 14-year-old girl correctly at all. I mean as you can see in the video, she's sitting there, you know, before he grabs her, so she's already pretty much down on the ground. I think this officer is out of control the way he's acting. Like you said, you know, he's not trying to de-escalate it. He's escalating the whole situation by his voice. And he's the only officer running around like crazy. You can see, there's several officers there.
COOPER: And after he pulled some other teenagers come over after he sort of, you know, being aggressive, manhandled and pushed down this young girl, you see the other teenagers there and then he pulls out a gun and clearly the officer seemed to intercede kind of putting their arm on this officer saying like calm down.
VALENCIA: That's what I think, too, by watching it. You even see, when you slow the video down, I went home and I slowed this video down a couple of times and watched it. When the young man in blue that comes around to that officer, that officer might be able to say that he perceived a threat at that time because he was coming around, from his perspective. From my perspective as watching it here it doesn't appear to me to be a threat and in fact is when they run away, he still keeps the gun out and chases after the couple of kids instead of, you know, holstering his weapon and it also does look like the officer is trying to say him, listen, put that thing away, you don't need that.
COOPER: Also, this is a 14-year-old girl who's in the bikini bathing suit. It's not as if she's got a concealed weapon.
HOUCK: And - I mean, of course, there's fights and they need to go and, you know, find out what was going on.
COOPER: We'll see what happened. Appreciate it, we're minutes away from CNN's newest quiz show, we'll look behind the scenes next.
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