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Police Hopeful Killer "Contained" in Perimeter; Terror Warning in America; Tunisia Gunman has been Identified; Funerals Today for Charleston Church Shooting Victims; One Escapee Dead, One On The Run; Historic Week For President Obama; Poll: Clinton's Lead In New Hampshire Shrinks; Same-Sex Marriage Legal In All 50 States. Aired 11a-12p ET

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[10:59:46] VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, don't go away. Much more ahead in the next hour of the CNN NEWSROOM. We turn it over to our colleague, Suzanne Malveaux. Suzanne -- good morning.

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It is 11:00 on the East Coast. I'm Suzanne Malveaux in for Fredricka Whitfield. NEWSROOM starts right now.

Thank you for joining me. Suzanne Malveaux in for Fredricka Whitfield.

We are following breaking news now.

Hundreds of law enforcement officers, they are on the hunt for a prison escapee, David Sweat. Now, police are telling CNN that they believe they have him in a contained perimeter. Now, fellow escapee, Richard Matt, he was shot was killed by a border patrol agent. Police had closed him on him after getting a call of shots fired. Officers say that Matt was shot when he refused to put his hands up.

Joining me now is our own Jean Casarez. She is live in Malone, New York -- that is where the search now is. Jean I understand it's intensifying this morning. Where do they believe that he has been cornered? Do they have this location where they are pretty confident that they are going to find him today. JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, I just spoke with

some searchers not too long ago. I asked that very question. I said do you still believe that you have him contained? And their response to me was, "We hope so".

But here is what we are learning right now. The search area for the moment is going to stay the same today. We are in the north/northwest area, upstate New York, Adirondack Mountains not too far from the Canadian border.

But I think we have a live picture that you can look at right now of the checkpoints that they have in this area. I mean the roads are closed. You cannot travel beyond really where we are standing right now. Law enforcement is standing right there. If you live in that area, you have to go through that checkpoint.

There are searches on the ground, by the air. There are helicopters today. We understand the canine units are even supposed to be out today. We haven't seen them. We have definitely seen the ATVs because this area is very, very remote.

Now something we just got information on. We know that this all came down yesterday about 2:00 in the afternoon when shots were fired and a man was driving a camper and he thought originally he had a flat tire. He pulls over, eight miles later and realizes, there is a shot that's gone through his camper.

We can now tell you according to the Clinton County Sheriff's Department, that shot was made by Richard Matt. And it went on from there. Take a listen.

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GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK: There was a civil complaint -- civilian complaint in the town of Duane. There was a gunshot that was fired at a camping trailer. The state police responded to investigate the complaint. They came upon a cabin. They went inside the cabin. They detected the smell of gun powder.

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CASAREZ: That was when the tactical unit of the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol came in by helicopter, landed. There was a ground search in that area. They heard a cough. That told them it was a human being that was close to them, not an animal. They, then, in time, cornered Matt. He was armed. They told him to surrender, to raise his hands. He did not do that. When he didn't, they shot him dead. That 20-gauge shotgun was found right by his side.

They now are on pursuit for David Sweat. They do not believe the two ever separated. There was noted footprints in the area, two footprints. Whether they have more information or not to fully believe that they never separated, we don't know at this point. But the search is on. And they say they will not stop until they get him -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: All right. It sounds like it is getting very, very close. Jean -- thank you very much.

I want to bring in our Matthew Horace. He is a 28-year veteran of federal, state and local law enforcement, former ATF executive as well and we also want to bring in former FBI special agent Jonathan Gilliam.

Jonathan, I want to start off with you here. Last week, officials were saying now that these two, they seemed absolutely desperate. Well now that David Sweat is now on his own, do you have a much better chance of getting him, locking him in now that he doesn't have a partner in crime?

JONATHAN GILLIAM, FORMER FBI SPECIAL AGENT: Well, I think even more than the fact that he doesn't have a partner in crime. Let's start with that. He doesn't have a partner in crime -- they can't take shifts to sleep or get any rest. But even more than that, the fact is, what happened yesterday alerted law enforcement as to 100 percent the specific area where they were at.

And besides the cabin where they were -- their DNA was found, this is really only the second time where they have actually had definitive proof that they are in this location. So they were able to respond quicker and now they pretty much have him pinned in, at least we hope so.

I just wouldn't be surprised if within the next 24 hours he doesn't get caught or they don't have a shootout because he is going to start getting tired pretty soon.

MALVEAUX: Obviously, getting very tired and getting very weary. But what do you think he has been doing up to this point to be so elusive for all this time evading the police?

[11:04:57] GILLIAM: I think they have just been sleeping in a cabin. I think it really comes down to something that simple. You know, they made -- I wouldn't say -- it was a big mistake. I don't think they really had much choice.

They didn't have a ride when they got out. Things didn't work out as far as that part of the plan. They got about 20 miles away and they found this cabin and they, probably, in their minds, said, let's just stay here and shelter down and then we will try to wait it out.

Unfortunately, that was their undoing because they waited too long and somebody came back and law enforcement reengaged because law enforcement was drifting away. Had they stayed there or not been encountered by the person that owns the cabin, we might be having a completely different conversation right now.

MALVEAUX: And Matthew tell us about -- Matt was shot and killed. Do you think that if they zero in on Sweat, they are going to give him a chance to surrender and take him out alive or do they want to keep him alive to get more information?

MATTHEW HORACE, FORMER ATF EXECUTIVE: Well, Suzanne, the priority of law enforcement is to do this safely so that no citizens are injured and no law enforcement are injured. He only has three choices: give up and go back to incarceration, engage police and be killed, or engage police and try to injure someone else.

MALVEAUX: So in light of those choices, what are law enforcement prepared for?

Horace: Law enforcement is prepared to do exactly what happened yesterday and hopefully take him in without incident. Unfortunately, as Joe said, he is getting desperate. He's tired. He's running out of resources. He has no one to keep his back at night. He can't sleep comfortably now, now that Mr. Matt has been killed. And I think he is running out of time.

As I've said from the very beginning of this drama, time is on our side.

MALVEAUX: It looks like time where we could see this happening within hours, actually capturing that second fugitive. We are going to bring you guys back obviously to talk more about that.

Jonathan and Matthew -- thanks. We appreciate your time and attention this morning.

Next, after three terror attacks around the world, there is now a new terror warning here in the United States. This as new details are emerging about the deadly attack in Tunisia.

We have those details straight ahead.

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MALVEAUX: We are continuing to follow the breaking news out of New York today where an intense manhunt continues for escaped convict, David Sweat. Now right now, police are hopeful that Sweat is in a contained perimeter. We're going to continue to bring you updates on that story as we get them.

Also this morning we're learning about new details on the multiple terror attacks abroad. We're getting new information as well about a terror warning for the Fourth of July here at home. The Department of Homeland Security, the FBI and the National Counter Terrorism Center issued a joint intelligence bulletin to law enforcement -- this is across the country. It doesn't detail any known active plots but warns extremists they could launch attacks tied to the U.S. Independence Day holiday or to perceived defamation of Prophet Mohammed.

These threats at home coming on the heels of three separate terror attacks on three continent. Just minutes ago, CNN has learned that the name of the alleged gunman behind the deadly attack at the beachside resort in Tunisia, Saif Al-Din al Rezgui. Al Rezgui has been described by police as a normal man who was a young man as a matter of fact, an introvert, not known to have many problems.

Well, the new information -- this is coming as French authorities, they have detained the lone suspect who crashed a van at a U.S.-owned warehouse that was near Lyon creating a huge explosion that injured two. That attack was followed by the discovery of a severed head nearby.

Police in Kuwait, they are searching for the driver whose car was used to drop off a suicide bomber at a mosque on Friday. Now, that blast killed at least 27 people, wounded 227 others.

ISIS has claimed responsibility for that attack as well as the massacre in Tunisia.

Our CNN senior international correspondent, Nick Paton Walsh -- he has more on the investigation.

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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I'm standing outside the hotel in the far away town of Darfur deep in the heart of Tunisian country side. Outside the house where the gunman behind the Imperial Marhaba Hotel attacks -- the man known as Saif al- Din al Rezgui.

Police are telling us where he came just on Thursday to say good-bye it seems to his parents and his uncle who live behind that brown door behind me here where he, in fact, lived himself until just four years ago when he went to college.

His uncle and many locals here as is often the case after atrocities like this, describing the attacker, the gunman Saif al Rezgui as being an introvert, being someone who didn't really grasp anyone's attention here. He likes soccer, football, he liked to join the dance club here, whose brother lost his life in a storm a number of years ago.

But not anybody who showed signs of going on to become the brutal gunman who had walked through Imperial Marhaba Hotel shooting there dozens of tourists that simply stood on the beach in their swimwear.

Behind me, inside those doors, there is the room where he spent a lot of his childhood too and it was on Thursday, I'm sure in his heart, knowing quite what he was about to do, that he came here to see his parents and his uncle and cousins as well. We understand that just yesterday afternoon in fact, his parents were taken away by police from the capital, Tunis from the house behind us here.

But this is very much a town -- tiny, humble, lacking in a major economy here trying to come to terms now with what one of its inhabitants appears to have done in the town of Sousse and the global condemnation of that brutal violence. A gunman, age 24, who specialized in electronics and his masters' degree which he went on to pursue not far for her in (INAUDIBLE) another town, another area not far from where I'm standing but who came from such a quiet area with no obvious signs or links to extremism or radicalism and whose childhood seemed to have been spent, so much of it, behind the brown door behind me, where it appears just 24 hours before he launched those brutal attacks, he came to say good-bye to his family.

Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Darfur, Tunisia. (END VIDEO CLIP)

MALVEAUX: All right. Thank you -- Nick. We appreciate it.

We are going to continue to follow that manhunt in upstate New York.

But first, I want you to see this. This is an amazing moment. This is the funeral for Senator Clementa Pinckney that everyone is talking about -- that's up next.

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[11:18:45] MALVEAUX: We're continuing to follow the breaking news out of New York today where an intense manhunt continues for escaped convict David Sweat. Right now police are hopeful that Sweat is in a contained perimeter. We are going to continue to bring updates on the story as we get them.

Also three more funerals taking place today in Charleston, South Carolina, for the victims of the church massacre. Now, the first service for town librarian, Cynthia Hurd began just a few moments ago. Hurd was one of the nine people killed while attending the bible study.

Later today, Tywanza Sanders will be buried. He was just 26 years old, the youngest person killed by the gunman. He will be laid to rest with his aunt, Susie Jackson. She was 87 -- she was the oldest victim and a long-time member of Emanuel AME Church.

Well, the Charleston church massacre begs the question, of course, where do we go here as a nation? I mean how do we resolve these issues of race?

Well, there was very much an emotional funeral for another victim, that for Reverend and state senator, Clementa Pinckney.

President Obama, he said invariably that we restart this conversation about race when these tragedies like this happen -- that this is the time. And he said, we don't need more talk.

[11:20:01] Our Martin Savidge -- he was there. And Martin just an incredible moment. We all watched this. My parents are talking about it. "Amazing Grace", my mother's favorite song. It doesn't get more spiritual, down home and to the heart, to the core of what people are feeling there, when you start talking and singing "Amazing Grace".

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely. It is one of my favorites too. That moment is almost beyond description to see the President lead an entire congregation in a hymn that everyone knows and knows by heart. It was a very powerful moment.

In fact many people in Charleston who attended the funeral of Reverend Pinckney felt that the President knew exactly what to say and he definitely knew the right thing to say. SAVIDGE: A Charleston arena became a sanctuary and a crowd of 5,500 its congregation -- remembering those gunned down in a racially motivated massacre in one of the nation's oldest black churches.

The service was more celebration than somber -- many noting the gunman's intent to divide people by race had done just opposite.

REV. JOHN RICHARD BRYANT, SENIOR BISHOP, AME CHURCH: Someone should have told the young man he wanted to start a race war but he came to the wrong place.

SAVIDGE: For the President, it was personal. Reverend and state senator, Clementa Pinckney had helped Obama's 2008 campaign.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He embodied the idea that our Christian faith demands these are not (INAUDIBLE)

SAVIDGE: The President's eulogy quickly went beyond the victims to challenging a nation to confront the issues of race, guns, even the confederate flag.

OBAMA: Removing the flag from this state's capitol would not be an act of political correctness. It would not be an insult to the valor of confederate soldiers. It would simply be an acknowledgment that the cause for which they fought, the cause of slavery, was wrong.

SAVIDGE: But the nation's first African-American president didn't stop there. He brought up the issues of voter rights and hiring practices -- all seen anew in the aftermath of the killings.

OBAMA: Maybe we now realize the way racial bias can infect us even when we don't realize it. So that we are guarding against not just racial slurs but we are also guarding against the subtle impulse to call Johnny back for a job interview but not Jamal.

SAVIDGE: Also in the audience was a bipartisan group of federal and state lawmakers and at least two presidential candidates and the President seemed to speak to them warning that America cannot forget.

OBAMA: There would be a betrayal of everything Reverend Pinckney stood for, I believe, if we allow ourselves to slip into a comfortable silence again.

SAVIDGE: The President ended by noting how the people of Charleston had risen above hate, how the victims' families had forgiven the killer, all showing grace and amazing grace.

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SAVIDGE: Getting back, Suzanne, to the funerals that are for today. You know, much has been made about Reverend Pinckney because of the fact that he served his state and served his faith. All of the people who died were remarkable. You can find the descriptions of their life at CNN.com. It is certainly well worth understanding how incredible each one of those murdered in that church were -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Yes. And that was such a fitting tribute from the President really showing some real emotion and some real heart there.

Martin, I want you to talk to me about, I know there was an incident this morning regarding the confederate flag? What actually happened, because it has been very controversial.

SAVIDGE: Well, according to authorities in Columbia which is the state capital, there is a war memorial there where the confederate flag flies all the time. And apparently, there were some activists at around 6:15 this morning one of them climbed up that pole, unclipped the flag and brought it down. The moment they did, they were immediately arrested for defacing a memorial and the flag was up within the hour.

Also, taking place just a short time ago was a pro flag rally. But of course, the confederate flag has really become the focus since Dylann Roof was seen posing with it in a number of photographs before he carried the horrific attack.

MALVEAUX: Martin, I understand that the flag now has been, again, it has been posted and it will take a couple of weeks at least for it to go through the proper process through the legislature to actually take that down formally, yes.

SAVIDGE: Right. Yes. This is going to be a debate that probably is going to last well into the summer here in South Carolina and beyond.

[11:25:06] MALVEAUX: All right. Martin Savidge, good to see you this morning. Appreciate it.

Still ahead, the search continuing now for the prison escapee, David Sweat. Police are telling CNN they believe that they have a contained perimeter around him. CNN's Polo Sandoval, he is going to be joining us live from Malone, New York.

And Polo, we see you there. Clearly, there has been a development this morning. This could be hours, just hours, before this guy is captured. How close are we?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right -- Suzanne. That search continues to intensify here in upstate New York. But it doesn't mean that the remaining inmate, the remaining escapee is in this region.

I will have the answer for you coming up right here in the CNN NEWSROOM. Stay with us.

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MALVEAUX: Good morning. Thanks for joining me. I'm Suzanne Malveaux, in for Fredricka Whitfield.

We are following breaking news. Hundreds of law enforcement officers are on the hunt for the prison escapee David Sweat. Fellow escapee Richard Matt, he was shot and killed by a border patrol team. And police have closed in on him after getting a call of shots fired. Officers say that Matt was shot when he refused to put his hands up. Joining me now is our Polo Sandoval. He is live in Malone New York

where the search is intensifying this morning. Polo -- good morning. What can you tell us about how close they are getting to Sweat and do we think we could possibly see an arrest some time this morning, early afternoon?

[11:30:04] SANDOVAL: That's something that officials want to see happen. It is not just police officers here, Suzanne, but also the people that live in the shadows here of these mountains. They want to see this come to a close.

But at this point, we are hearing from officials who say there really is no solid, physical evidence to confirm that the only inmate that is still on the run, David Sweat, is actually in this region.

But at this point, it is one of the most solid leads they have after the shooting that happened here almost about close to 24 hours ago, or so that claimed the life of Richard Matt after he refused to put down a shotgun that he had.

Federal agents forced to open fire, shooting and killing that convicted killer here. There is really a sense of partial relief among the community here. They are also very familiar with the fact that this is far from over. They still have to track down this remaining suspect.

We did check in with New York State Police a few moments ago on the manhunt. They said at this point, there is nothing new to report. There were some previous reports that began surfacing immediately after yesterday's shooting that they could be very close to David Sweat.

At this point, really, the only evidence that they have here is a specific set of tracks that was located in and around the area that they believe could possibly be David Sweat's. So, again, they are not 100 percent sure that he is in the area.

They also don't have any evidence that seems to suggest that he actually left the region here in upstate New York. As an investigation goes forward, I can tell you, Suzanne, we are also now hearing from Clinton County officials that we also spoke with a few moments ago that did confirm this shot that was fired or the shots that were fired yesterday that led to the shooting that claimed the life of Richard Matt, those shots were initially fired by the suspect himself here.

Those shots were apparently fired at some kind of recreational vehicle that was being driven in around the area. That truly does race the question that we hope to answer later today, is why he pulled the trigger firing those shots that pretty much blew his cover leading investigators directly to him. As we now know, those investigators would later shoot and kill him.

MALVEAUX: Yes, it's very interesting. I wonder if the other inmate, the suspect, has a weapon as well. That's another one of the outstanding questions. Polo, thank you. We'll be getting back to you, of course, if there are any developments or any information.

I want to talk more about this with former FBI special agent, Jonathan Gilliam and Matthew Horace, a former ATF agent, 28-year veteran of federal, state, and local law enforcement.

So Jonathan, I want to start off with you here. We know that David Sweat, he is on his own. That could simply mean that he is at a disadvantage here or does it? Does it help him actually that he's by himself?

JONATHAN GILLIAM, FORMER FBI SPECIAL AGENT: No, I don't think it helps him in any way at all. I mean, really going through the woods, two people versus one person, it is not that big of a difference as far as the footprint goes, especially if they are quiet and working together.

It is just not going to be that much different. To his disadvantage, he is going to get tired. That's the biggest thing. Not necessarily the footprint. The fact that he doesn't have somebody else, if he gets tired, that says, can we rest and you watch while I take a nap or I sleep while you watch. He doesn't have that.

He has no alternative if he gets tired than to continue to go until he just completely falls out. What's going to work against him, though, big-time, is a lack of water. Unless he finds another cabin, that's really the friend that he absolutely does not have since he left that cabin, is water.

MALVEAUX: Matthew, so we are looking at this area here. We have been seeing it in those pictures. He supposedly is contained in a wooded area. It is very dense. It was mentioned before. It probably doesn't have really that water that he needs that is so critical.

How does law enforcement deal with this tactically? How could they actually figure out where he is if they are just feet away from him or could he actually hide in that brush and evade police?

MATTHEW HORACE, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT, FJC SECURITY SERVICES: Suzanne, he actually could hide in that brush and evade police to some extent. What you are seeing is a wrapping up of intensity of law enforcement because of what happened yesterday. It validates the fact that our leads were good leads and we were where we were supposed to be.

But as we move forward, law enforcement is going to proceed very cautiously and tactically. There is no rush to catch him enough to put us at a disadvantage. We have time on our side and we are at an advantage as long as we are using the resources of the 1,000 people out there searching and do it diligently and by the numbers.

MALVEAUX: Jonathan, you have to imagine, that Sweat, he knows if he is caught, he is probably going to spend the rest of his life behind bars or be killed. Does that make it even more dangerous when you are approaching this guy?

GILLIAM: Well, I think so. I think the combination and the fact that he is a psychopath. He has killed before. He is on the run and facing life and the potential that he is armed.

[11:35:02] Now he has a way out if, you know, he gets cornered by law enforcement and he could either go out in a blaze of glory or kill himself. I think it potentially could make it more dangerous.

Definitely more dangerous that it could have been had they not found the weapons, but here is what law enforcement are looking for, they are looking at hands.

These hands are what really show where the threat is. And as officers approach, if they see him and he has a weapon, unfortunate for him, he is a fleeing felon. He is a murderer. If he has a weapon and they see that, it's a good shoot. It is up to him on which way this goes really to tell you the truth.

MALVEAUX: Jonathan, Matthew, thank you so much. We are going to be talking with you guys throughout the morning because obviously a lot of attention is being paid to that particular area. The whole country is waiting for that final suspect to be caught. Thanks again. We appreciate it.

From two Supreme Court rulings to this emotional moment at a funeral for the shooting victim in Charleston, is this a historic week for the president? We are going to ask our CNN's political team up next.

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MALVEAUX: We're continuing to follow breaking news out of New York where an intense manhunt continues for escaped convict, David Sweat. Right now police are hopeful that Sweat is in a contained perimeter. We will continue to bring those updates on the story as we get them throughout the morning.

But now the landmark week in the United States, we want to talk about that from the Supreme Court upholding a key portion of Obamacare to the high court's historic ruling that states can no longer ban same- sex marriage.

President Obama closed the week with a moving version of "Amazing Grace" when he delivered the eulogy for State Senator Clementa Pinckney's funeral in Charleston. Just Listen.

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MALVEAUX: It is just an amazing moment when you take a look at that and listen. It could be one of the more important weeks for the president really in the more than six years that he has been in office.

Joining us are CNN politics senior reporter, Stephen Collinson and CNN politics reporter, MJ Lee. Thank you both for joining us this morning. Steven, I'll start off with you here. I mean, we have really not seen this kind of week in a long time for any of the presidents that I covered.

It is a sweeping change. Under one week under one administration, President Obama having an incredible, incredible week. I can't imagine we will see another like it.

STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR REPORTER: I don't think so, Suzanne. It was a confluence of history. Different strands of the Obama presidency coming together. I think the reason we remembered is because the things that happened this week, gay rights, Obamacare, the president getting fast tracked trade authority to negotiate a big trade deal in Asia.

It will be things that endure after his presidency. That's the way historians tend to judge presidents. It is the legacy they leave and how long it lasts. So I think the things that happen this week are in that category.

MALVEAUX: Then, M.J., I have spoken to people that are close to the president. There has been a sense of frustration in really trying to make sure that he gets some of the things that he really wanted to get done, done. That happened this week and clearly that speaks to his legacy.

MJ LEE, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: Absolutely, Suzanne. I think it has been striking to see the president in the last several weeks show a real emotional side to him when he talked about the shooting in Charleston, South Carolina.

You could tell that he was physically frustrated and angry. He used the controversial "n" word to make his point. When he spoke about the Supreme Court's ruling yesterday about gay marriage, I think you are seeing him spontaneously singing "Amazing Grace" to this historic black church.

You're seeing a president who is freer and I think it's sort of embracing the fact that he only has a little bit of time left. In that time, he is committed and devoted to doing as much as he can to leave his mark on this country.

MALVEAUX: I want to talk New Hampshire, very interesting moment here when you take a look at these polls here and the latest CNN/WMUR poll, Hillary Clinton getting 43 percent of the vote. Bernie Sanders second with 35 percent. Clinton's lead now down in the single digits, just eight points ahead of Sanders.

So Stephen, let's talk about this, the Clinton campaign, Sanders right behind them on their back. How do they respond to that early in the game?

COLLINSON: Yes, I think it is interesting. If there is one place that Bernie Sanders was going to make a run at Hillary Clinton, it probably would be New Hampshire. For months, he's well known in New Hampshire because part of the TV market sort of encompasses New Hampshire.

I think what's happening is that characters like Bernie Sanders and also Donald Trump who is doing well in the polls on the Republican side are responding to people are kind of fed up with politicians as usual. They are looking for someone that can come and say the things that they are thinking even if they might be a little bit explosive and a little bit not too subtle. We saw Donald Trump's remarks on Mexican immigrants.

Bernie Sanders is tapping into a real sort of distrust of corporations on the Democratic Party. I think at this stage, the voters are not necessarily looking at choosing a president. When we get closer to the primaries next year, people will start to evaluate who would be the best president.

[11:45:04] Then, you might see more established candidates like Hillary Clinton, Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush on the Republican side move farther ahead.

MALVEAUX: OK, let's talk about this. This is a change on the Republican side. I want to bring MJ back into the conversation. Donald Trump, latest declared candidate, now nipping at the heels of Jeb Bush, five points behind the former Florida governor in New Hampshire now. So MJ, what do you think of what people are calming the Trump bump?

LEE: Look, I think the big question for Donald Trump is, are the people who are supporting him now, are they actually devoted, passionate Trump supporters or are they just people who are seeing Donald Trump in the headlines a lot.

Remember he only announced his intention to run for president. He has been dominating the new cycle. I think that people in these early states are seeing his names a lot and are interested in him.

But the question is, is that sustainable? Is that a permanent sort of group of some supporters that are coming out and saying, this is the guy we want or you know, similar to when Ben Carson first announced.

You remember that he was tied in the national polls with someone like Jeb Bush. Is that lasting or is it a temporary sort of bump as you called it?

MALVEAUX: All right, MJ Lee, Stephen Collinson, thank you so much. Appreciate it this morning.

Can Donald Trump rise to the top? What does he really think about the other candidates? We're going to find out. This Sunday, "STATE OF THE UNION" with Jake Tapper tomorrow morning at 9:00 Eastern right here on CNN.

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MALVEAUX: We are staying on top of breaking news. An intense manhunt going on right now in upstate New York for escaped convict, David Sweat. We will bring you more at the top of the hour.

People all over the country today reacting to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling allowing same sex couples to marry in all 50 states. The historic ruling ends the long legal battle for marriage equality by the LGBT community. It happened early -- well nearly 46 years to the day that police raid at Stone Wall Inn in New York City.

Now that raid sparking a series of protest giving birth to the gay civil rights movement. Well, now supporters and opponents of the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage are voicing their opinions.

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GOVERNOR ROBERT BENTLEY (R), ALABAMA: We have to go obviously by what the courts say, but I certainly can disagree with them, and I do.

BARBARA DIBERNARD, MARRIED AFTER SUPREME COURT RULING: Very emotional. I did not think that it would come in my lifetime.

DON GRUNDMAN, U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE, CONSTITUTION PARTY: It's going to divide our country for many years because it's the moral foundation of our nation that's being shattered.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's my hope that the term gay marriage will soon be a thing of the past. That from this day forward it will simply be marriage.

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MALVEAUX: Here with me now is a couple that has been waiting for this historic day, Kelly Martineli and Taylor Gnash. They were married after the Supreme Court ruling here in Georgia. Well, congratulations.

Tell me what it was like yesterday. You were set up and in line in court and waiting for that decision to come down. Taylor, start with you. What happened?

TAYLOR GNASH, MARRIED AFTER SUPREME COURT DECISION: Well, yesterday morning we got to the courthouse around 9:00 a.m. and we were just kind of hanging, and then she got a little hot so we went inside and we were just hanging out and all of a sudden, we were just got bombarded by people. We got the news and 10 seconds later we were in line to get our license.

MALVEAUX: Describe that moment, Kelly, did you kiss? Did you hug? What happened?

KELLY MARTINELLI, MARRIED AFTER SUPREME COURT RULING: Well, excitement all over, just joy and everything. We're the first one.

MALVEAUX: Was it family and friends?

GNASH: Yes.

MARTINELLI: A full group of people.

MALVEAUX: So did you have a plan b if this did not in go your way, what was going to happen?

GNASH: We were going go to Florida and get legally married just sometime in December because we're having a ceremony in January for all our friends and family.

MALVEAUX: I understand that you guys have been practicing. You filled out the forms. You changed the form, right. What did you change the form as?

MARTINELLI: We scratch out groom and put bride.

MALVEAUX: So it's bride and bride not groom and bride.

MALVEAUX: You got a dog as well. Tell me a little bit about what it's like to get to this point?

GNASH: It's been fun.

MARTINELLI: Yes, it's been an adventure for sure. It's just been an exciting adventure.

MALVEAUX: What does it mean to be married?

MARTINELLI: Everything. Nothing has changed with us at all. We put a ring on it.

MALVEAUX: Your friends must be so proud and excited for you.

GNASH: Yes.

MALVEAUX: Was this something that you had anticipated? Did you think that it would happen in Georgia?

GNASH: No, I did not think that it would happen in Georgia. We're Christian and a Christian family, and at the end of the day it's about love to us. That's what we wanted to share.

MALVEAUX: Did you get pushed back being in Georgia? I lived in Atlanta and it can be rough.

GNASH: We got positive and negative, but we just told ourselves that all the negative has just brings us close.

MARTINELLI: Yes, gives us stronger bond and stronger love towards each other and pulls us more closer.

MALVEAUX: You have to get a question you have a dog. Where are the kids? Are the kids coming now that you're married?

GNASH: We have a dog and she keeps us on the feet for now maybe one day but not for now.

MALVEAUX: A honeymoon coming?

GNASH: After January.

MALVEAUX: So January you're having another ceremony then?

GNASH: Yes.

MALVEAUX: Did you think the change is extraordinary within the last five years. Did you think that it was going to happen now?

MARTINELLI: No, I thought that it would be years from now. I did not think that it would be any time. I figured it would be in 2020 and nowhere near that.

MALVEAUX: Taylor, there are some not happy with the decision and ruling. What do you say to those that do not understand your love or your union?

GNASH: Well, I just say to them that I respect them and their opinion. They're entitled to it, but that's really just what I have to say about it. I have no opinion. It really does not bother us.

MALVEAUX: And Kelly?

[11:55:02] MARTINELLI: Yes, same thing as her. We just ignore it. We don't look for the negative but the positive. We don't say look at the negatives. We just keep the positives within us and look at positive people and as positive people that we keep in our lives and the negatives with do not ignore them and do their thing.

MALVEAUX: You're living your life. OK, well, the best to you, congratulations. January, right? I want an invite. Thank you. We appreciate it. We will be right back after this.

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MALVEAUX: When country music legend, Glen Campbell was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease, he decided to share his story. That decision lead to the award-winning documentary "Glen Campbell, I'll Be Me." The CNN film follows Campbell on his final tour taking us from concert stages to the challenges of his rehearsal.

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GLEN CAMPBELL: I had it exactly where I wanted it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like 120.

CAMPBELL: Put it at 122 for kicks.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just for kicks.

CAMPBELL: It's too many Indians in here, man. I am the chief. There's one driver in here if you want me to fire you from the ditch.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's been one of the biggest problems. Glen is unrehearsable. Any rehearsal is more like a sound check. He can't get through without stopping and trying to either tell someone how to play their instrument or that they are playing too loud.