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Second Prison Escapee Captured Miles from Canadian Border; Greece Shuts Down Banks to Prevent Collapse; Iran Nuclear Talks to Miss Tuesday Deadline; Texas A.G.: County Clerks Can Refuse Gay Couples; Ripple Effect of Greece Financial Crisis. Aired 6-6:30a ET

Aired June 29, 2015 - 06:00   ET

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GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK: The nightmare is finally over. It took 22 days.

[05:58:27] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was shot twice in the torso.

DENNIS MCKENNA, ALBANY MEDICAL DIRECTOR: At this time, his condition is listed as critical.

ANDREW WYLIE, CLINTON COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY: He will be 24/7 lockdown for rest of his life.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Greece on the brink of financial ruin this morning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't know, in fact, whether a last-minute deal can be stitched together.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The situation in Greece will deteriorate very rapidly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Barely five hours of meetings. The Tuesday deadline seems in tatters.

JOHN KERRY, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: We have a lot of hard work to do.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We still have major differences of interpretation.

KERRY: Everybody would like to see an agreement.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This ruling is a victory for America.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It is wrong. It is not law. It is not the Constitution.

GOV. JOHN KASICH (R), OHIO: It's the law of the land, and we'll abide by it.

(END VIDEOTAPE) ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and

Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It's Monday, June 29, about 6 a.m. in the East. Mick is off today, but we have big news for you.

They ran, but they could not hide. The manhunt for two escaped killers in upstate New York is over. There was a chase on foot through the woods. Police then shooting and wounding David Sweat just as he was reaching the Canadian border. All this days after gunning down his fellow escapee, Richard Matt.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: So Sweat was taken down just miles from the Canadian border. And now his mother is speaking out about his capture. Let's begin with our coverage with CNN's Sara Ganim in Albany, where Sweat is hospitalized in critical condition. And Sara, investigators need to keep him alive so they can get some answers.

SARA GANIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right. We assume that they're happy about that. That he may be able to talk to them about who may have helped them escape.

But Alisyn, going back to that search, there were more than 1,300 officers who were out looking for this fugitive. At the end, it came all down to one sergeant who was not able -- only able to spot David Sweat but also to capture him alive.

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MCKENNA: At this time, his condition is listed as critical.

GANIM (voice-over): This morning, convicted killer David Sweat is in custody and fighting for his life, suffering from two gunshot wounds to his torso. Cheers from spectators as the escapee's ambulance arrives late Sunday at a hospital in Albany, New York.

WYLIE: His privileges will be extremely limited. He will be in basically 24/7 lockdown for the rest of his life.

GANIM: This exclusive photo obtained by CNN moments after his capture shows Sweat bloodied and in full camouflage guard. You can see in this photo a wound to his chest.

MICHAEL DOYLE, RESIDENT, CONSTABLE, NEW YORK: I heard the shots, and I ran out with my phone. All of a sudden, the cops just swarmed like bees.

GANIM: Sweat was spotted Sunday afternoon by New York State Police Sergeant Jay Cook during a routine patrol, less than two miles from the Canadian border.

A. CUOMO: He was alone when this happened. I said, "Well, you go home tonight and tell your daughters that you're a hero."

GANIM: The fugitive was jogging along the road when Cook spotted him. That's when Sweat took off, nearly making it back into the woods before Sergeant Cook opened fire.

JOSEPH D'AMICO, NEW YORK STATE POLICE SUPERINTENDENT: The terrain is so dense, you can't see five feet in front of you. If Sweat made the tree line, you know, he would have been gone.

GANIM: Investigators say Sweat and his now-deceased partner in crime, Richard Matt, used pepper to try to throw off police tracking dogs.

D'AMICO: We did have difficulty tracking, so you know, it was fairly effective in that respect.

GANIM: The dramatic capture coming 48 hours after Matt, armed with a shotgun, was killed in a shootout with police.

A. CUOMO: It was an extraordinary circumstance and the first escape in over 100 years, but one escape is one escape too many.

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GANIM: Alisyn, Sweat was captured about 16 miles from where his partner, Richard Matt, was shot and killed on Friday. He was also unarmed. That's what police say.

Now comes the investigation part. Already two people who worked inside the prison, a corrections officer and a prison seamstress, have been charged with aiding these two men in some way with their escape. Now investigators are going to look into whether or not there were more people involved. Hopefully, David Seat will provide them with some of that information -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Yes. That's why it's helpful to have him become conscious. Thanks so much for that.

So Sara just said more than 1,300 law enforcement officers searched around the clock for more than three weeks to find these two convicted killers. And new details emerging this morning about how police finally tracked down Richard Matt and David Sweat, killing one and critically wounding the other.

CNN's Polo Sandoval has that part of the story. He is live in Constable, New York. What do we know, Polo?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Alisyn, I can tell you that police are now shifting from manhunt to full-on investigation mode. What they're going to do now is essentially retrace the steps of David Sweat, and this is where they will start, the fields of upstate New York. You see off in the distance, really, the area where David Sweat was taken down yesterday.

And now the key question is how did he end up here after escaping from the Clinton Correctional Facility in Dannemora just over three weeks ago. It truly has been, Alisyn, a very eventful three weeks, really, for most of the suspects here in this case. You recall that that escape happening June the 6th from the Clinton Correctional Facility. June 22 was perhaps one of the biggest breaks in the case, when investigators were able to identify DNA linking both Richard Matt and David Sweat to the area here in upstate New York.

Eventually, Richard Matt really confronting federal agents just at the start of this weekend, eventually shooting and killing the suspect there. And then yesterday, again, that major break in the case and the arrest of David Sweat here in the community of Constable, New York.

And just to add some perspective here, if things were so close. In fact, just off in the distance here, not too far beyond that tree line, is the U.S./Canadian border. And so there was major concern that he was so close to escape.

Instead, two shots from Sergeant Jay Cook really resulted in the headlines, Chris, that people are waking up to now. A very long- awaited headline, now that this three-week nightmare is over for the people here.

C. CUOMO: All right, Polo. Thank you very much. Appreciate all the reporting you've done up there.

Let's bring in former deputy warden for the New York City Department of Corrections, Ed Gavin.

Ed, it's great to have you here. We want to figure out whether this went down the way it was supposed to and then what comes next. So what do you think about how they wound up finding this guy and how the sergeant acted?

ED GAVIN, FORMER DEPUTY WARDEN, NEW YORK CITY DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS: I think the state police did an outstanding job. They were hyper-vigilant; they were poised, positioned in the town of Constable, New York.

[06:05:08] The sergeant, on routine patrol, saw someone that resembled Mr. Sweat. He engaged him. He positively identified him. He probably gave him the command, "Police, don't move," and he decided to move. And under the penal law of the state of New York, Article 35, a police officer -- or peace officer can shoot a fleeing felon.

CAMEROTA: We were wondering about that, because he wasn't armed, and he was running away. We have all sorts of debate over the past few months about whether that's OK. But you're saying that when it's a dangerous fugitive, it's OK.

GAVIN: Article 35 of the penal law permits you to use deadly physical force to stop a fleeing felon who is either charged with a felony or convicted of a felony. So the police officer was spot on.

C. CUOMO: He was a cop killer and an escaped convict. I mean, we're not going to have too many people fighting for his cause right now. However, there are a lot of people fighting for his life. And that's really important here, Ed Gavin, right? To have him alive. Humanity aside, they need him, right?

GAVIN: Absolutely. Well, the corrections officials are going to want to, you know, debrief him to find out what really happened here. I mean, personally, I think this probably went back to 2013 when he was employed in that tailor shop with Joyce Mitchell, when that undue familiarity charge was leveled against her. And the inspector general, the corrections department, obviously failed to take proper action, because they probably could have nipped that in the bud back then.

CAMEROTA: I want to pull up that picture again of him just at the moment that he's taken into custody. There he is. You can see blood on him. Look at the screen and tell me what you see here?

GAVIN: Well, I see a man who just got shot with a Glock service pistol, a Glock GA -- 45-GAP round. And quite honestly, I think he looks pretty good for taking two .45 slugs. I mean, those slugs will put holes in you the size of a nickel. Obviously, those rounds missed vital organs. They missed his spinal cord. They missed his arteries, and they missed internal organs, because he's obviously -- he's sitting up there. And he really doesn't look -- I've seen guys in bar fights that look worse than that. So he was really lucky.

C. CUOMO: But you also see, I think to Alisyn's question, he made the most of his situation when he was in those cabins. He's in full camo.

GAVIN: Absolutely.

C. CUOMO: They found out that they had booze and food and obviously got firearms. What does it show about -- do you think this might have been their plan, that they may have been working guards to find out about cabins in the area and that this is what they wanted to do all along, as opposed to it just being haphazard as their plan fell away when the seamstress got busted?

GAVIN: Well, they probably knew that the correction officers assigned to that facility were hunters. And they probably -- the officers probably talked about, you know, their lives off duty; and the inmates picked up on that. So they had to go to Plan B once Joyce decided not to drive the getaway car. And they figured, "Hey, we might as well go to the cabin." They know there are a lot of people that hunt in that region, and they had to make the best of it.

CAMEROTA: So Ed, what will investigators do, if and when he wakes up? Because here's a guy who is not incentivized to talk. He's going back to prison for life. He was in prison for life. He's going back to prison for life. What can they give him to make him spill the beans in terms of who helped them?

GAVIN: Well, they can incentivize him. They can -- he knows that if he talks, if he gets a good lawyer, he can probably cut a deal. I mean, obviously...

CAMEROTA: but what kind of deal?

GAVIN: Well, the corrections commissioner determines how and where an inmate is housed. So the correction commissioner can house him anywhere he sees fit.

CAMEROTA: The honor block?

GAVIN: Well, they dismantled the honor block.

C. CUOMO: It was dishonored.

CAMEROTA: I mean, you're saying that they have sweetened the deal for him, even though he's going back?

GAVIN: Absolutely. You know, the correction -- it's at the discretion of the correction commissioner, sure. And I would think that the correction commissioner at this point would want to know how this happened. So if they can glean any information about staff involvement, inmate involvement, you know, contractor involvement, they're going to do just that. They'd be foolish not to.

C. CUOMO: He's the one that who's going to be able to connect the dots. You know, just to kind of stop where we started here on it, talking to local hunters up there this weekend, they couldn't believe that they found these men in this type of terrain up. They were telling these stories about dogs, hunting dogs, that they still hear in the night out there because they can't even find their dogs. So at least it came to the right end.

But Ed is right: it's all about how you find accountability for how they got out there in the first place.

CAMEROTA: Ed, thank you.

C. CUOMO: We'll lean on you going forward as we find out what they say they're going to do.

CAMEROTA: Yes. Great to see you.

C. CUOMO: All right.

GAVIN: Thanks for having me.

C. CUOMO: Again, as Ed Gavin is laying out, it's all about how they got out and how they can figure out, hopefully, from this man, Mr. Sweat. So in the next hour, we're going to talk with the New York governor. His name is Andrew Cuomo.

CAMEROTA: Hmm. Sounds familiar.

C. CUOMO: With how he plans to get important answers. And in the 8 a.m. hour, we're going to speak with the New York State Police commander and a district attorney. They're in charge of this case. What can they tell us about any news they have?

CAMEROTA: Well, in a case strikingly similar to the New York prison break, a North Carolina inmate is back behind bars this morning after escaping from the help of a prison worker. Twenty-nine-year-old Kristopher Antonio McNeil, a convicted killer, broke out Saturday morning and was recaptured Sunday night. Kendra Lynette Miller, a kitchen worker, is charged with aiding and abetting a fugitive, harboring a fugitive, and having sex with an inmate. All right. Turning now to the worsening financial crisis

crippling Greece. The cash-strapped country face -- racing towards a default in less than 24 hours. Officials now taking drastic action to prevent its economy from collapsing. This as global markets already taking a hit today.

[06:10:16] CNN's business correspondent, Richard Quest, is live for us in Athens with the very latest. What do we know, Richard?

RICHARD QUEST, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Good morning.

Overnight, the capital controls were introduced; the banks were closed. The stock market was closed. But in the last hour or so, Alisyn, the ATM machines have now reopened.

This is the sign that we're seeing right across the city. Greek people arriving to take money out of the bank. Most of these people are Greek citizens. And this is what they can take: 60 euros a day. That's roughly $67.68. That is the limit for the time being that Greek citizens can take out of the bank.

For any Americans who are coming here, your cards will work absolutely fine. International, foreign, overseas cards are not restricted.

This is the crisis that everybody had been forecasting. But now, Alisyn, it's actually really, truly arrived.

C. CUOMO: All right, Richard. Thank you very much.

And we see the people lined up behind you at the bank. A very tense situation. We will stay on it. We know you will, as well.

Other news like this in Puerto Rico, who is now Puerto Pobre this morning, dangerously close to going bankrupt. The governor says the island is $73 billion -- that's with a "B" -- in the red. He warns Puerto Rico could enter a financial death spiral. Those are his words. So officials there are now seeking concessions from creditors, including deferring some payments or getting the deadline extended. To be continued.

CAMEROTA: Less than 48 hours to reach a nuclear deal with Iran, and U.S. officials say negotiators will not make it. Tehran and six world powers vowing to stay in Vienna past the Wednesday deadline, just like they did when reaching a framework agreement in the spring.

CNN senior international correspondent Frederik Pleitgen is in Tehran with the latest.

Good morning, Frederik.

FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, guys.

It certainly is crunch time in the nuclear talks. That's something we can also feel here in Iran's capital, Tehran. Most Iranians want a nuclear deal. They want sanctions relief. But he country's leaders still have some major reservations.

And in fact, the talks are so sensitive that Iran's chief negotiator, the foreign minister, Javad Zarif, has returned here to Tehran for direct consultations with the country's supreme leader.

However, before leaving Vienna, he did have a bilateral meeting with Secretary of State Kerry, and both of them acknowledged that the going is going to be tough.

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KERRY: Everybody would like to see an agreement, but we have to work through some difficult issues.

MOHAMMED JAVAD ZARIF, IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER: He's determined to do everything we can in order to be able to make this important milestone. But that depends on a lot of things.

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KERRY: Now of course, Iran's supreme leader has laid out red lines for the Iranian side. He says that inspectors will not be allowed to go into Iran's military facilities and also that he wants full sanctions released the moment an agreement is signed. That, of course, is something that will be very difficult to swallow for the other parties involved in these negotiations, especially the U.S. But again, many Iranians here are watching this very, very closely, hoping that a deal will come through -- guys.

C. CUOMO: All right. Appreciate it, Fred.

Back here at home, celebrations are breaking out across the country this weekend, because history was made on Friday. The Supreme Court identifying a right for people to marry the same sex in all 50 states. But this is one case, and the situation is far from over. There's also resistance nationwide, including the Texas attorney general telling his officials they can refuse to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, citing religious reasons.

CNN senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta has more. There are big penalties for somebody who goes against a Supreme Court ruling, but there's going to be politics at play, as well. Right?

JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely, Wolf. Republicans are far from united in their response to the Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage. While some GOP presidential candidates say it's time to respect the ruling, others say it's time to start throwing up some roadblocks. Something a few states are beginning to do.

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ACOSTA (voice-over): Days after the Supreme Court's landmark decision protecting same-sex marriage...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: USA! USA! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: USA! USA!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: USA! USA!

ACOSTA: ... many Republican presidential candidates are nowhere near the path to acceptance.

CRUZ: It is fundamentally illegitimate. It is wrong. It is not law. It is not the Constitution.

ACOSTA: Some states opposed to the ruling are beginning to fight back. In Texas, the attorney general has said county clerks can reject same-sex marriage license requests, citing religious objections, while in Mississippi and Louisiana, officials are dragging their feet, saying they'll await a separate appeals court ruling on the issue.

GOV. BOBBY JINDAL (R-LA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think it is wrong of the federal government to force Christian individuals, businesses, pastors, churches to participate in wedding ceremonies that violate our sincerely held religious beliefs.

[06:15:11] ACOSTA: Conservative cultural warriors in the GOP are framing the issue as a fight against the White House and its rainbow- colored tribute to the Supreme Court's decision.

MIKE HUCKABEE (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If I become president, please don't complain if I were to put a nativity scene out during Christmas and say, "If it's my house, I get to do with it what I wish."

ACOSTA: As more moderate voices in the party want to take a deep breath.

KASICH: I believe in traditional marriage, but the Supreme Court has ruled, and i's the law of the land. And we'll abide by it.

ACOSTA: GOP strategists feel a backlash against the high court will only help Hillary Clinton.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am asking them, please don't make the rights, the hopes of any American into a political football for this 2016 campaign.

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ACOSTA: And all of this will potentially put the president and the Justice Department in the position of playing referee in all of this to determine what will happen to states that don't comply with the Supreme Court decision. That could be the biggest question the president faces all week -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Absolutely, Jim. OK. Thanks so much for the update.

Now to fighting ISIS. British Prime Minister David Cameron warning that ISIS militants are plotting, quote, "terrible acts" in Britain. His comments this morning come after 30 Brits were murdered in Friday's terror attack on a Tunisian beach. Calling the fight against ISIS "the struggle of our generation," Cameron says the U.K. is preparing a more hardline approach to tackle the terrorists. This as FBI and homeland security officials warning Americans to be on alert for potential terror threats over the July 4 holiday.

C. CUOMO: Three people, including a child killed when their plane crashed into a home in Massachusetts. Luckily, the family inside that home was able to escape right before it burst into flames. The plane we know departed from Lancaster Airport in Pennsylvania Sunday. The cause of the crash under investigation.

CAMEROTA: And crews working to morning to figure out what went wrong when an unmanned rocket exploded. The Dragon rocket by SpaceX broke apart, as you can see, on Sunday just minutes after taking off from Cape Canaveral, Florida. It was headed for the International Space Station. Officials say important research equipment was lost in this crash. It was the third resupply mission by SpaceX to fail in just the past eight months.

All right. So back to the dire debt crisis in Greece. Global markets falling sharply after Greece has refused more emergency help. We'll take a closer look at the ripple effect and what it means for your money, next.

C. CUOMO: And the governor says the nightmare is over in upstate New York. But the investigation is just beginning. We now know that the second prisoner was shot and captured. How did they do it, and what has he been able to tell investigators about the escape so far?

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[06:21:40] CAMEROTA: All eyes on Greece this morning, watching whether the country's debt crisis might spill over to the global economy. The European Central Bank refusing further emergency assistance. So what does this mean to the U.S.?

Rana Foroohar is CNN's global economic analyst and assistant managing editor of "TIME" magazine.

Rana, great to see you this morning.

RANA FOROOHAR, CNN GLOBAL ECONOMIC ANALYST: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: Wow, things are really reaching a desperate place. Look at what's happening in Greece. Here is what I believe is happening today. Banks are closed there. There's limits on ATM withdrawals. How much can people take out if they need it?

FOROOHAR: Sixty euros. That's about 66, 67 dollars a day. If you're Greek, that's all you can get out of an ATM.

CAMEROTA: OK. Tourists told not to rely on their credit cards. Why wouldn't my credit card work if I'm in Greece?

FOROOHAR: Your credit card will work, but restaurants and hotels may not want to take it, because there will be a delay in them being able to get your money, because the Greek banks are closed. So they want to start getting cash. That's more secure for them.

CAMEROTA: Oh, my gosh. OK. So let's -- let's get rid of this guy. Good bye.

FOROOHAR: That's kind of like what the Greeks are doing with their money.

CAMEROTA: Exactly. They are $355 billion in debt. They must make a $1.8 billion payment to the International Monetary Fund by Tuesday. Is that going to happen?

FOROOHAR: No. No way. And that's the big -- the big hitch here. Because if they don't make that payment, then there's a very good chance that they're eventually going to tumble out of the Euro Zone. Whether it's a technical default or not doesn't really matter. The market's already in chaos over this.

CAMEROTA: Tumble out of the Euro Zone. What does that mean?

FOROOHAR: Well, what that means is that this currency, the first ever sort of artificially created currency -- all these countries came together -- could start breaking up. The big worry is not just that Greece falls out. Greece is a relatively small economy. But what happens if Italy falls out, if Portugal or Spain start having problems? That's the big worry here.

CAMEROTA: I think we have a picture of this. These are the countries that are all tethered to Greece somehow?

FOROOHAR: That's right. These are what's called the pigs, Portugal, Italy -- yes, exactly -- Greece. Italy, a big worry right here. This is a large economy. They've got a very shaky debt situation there. Their cost of borrowing could start rising. That could create some domino effect. And if you start to see more and more countries saying, "Hey, maybe the Euro Zone's not working for us, that could cause a political crisis in Europe.

CAMEROTA: As you will recall, we had our own -- when we were in the throes of our own recession, there was a big debate in this country. Stimulus or austerity measures. We went with stimulus...

FOROOHAR: Right.

CAMEROTA: ... in the U.S. What did Greece do?

FOROOHAR: Well, Europe went with austerity. And that really was the big issue. Everyone said at the time, you need more money flowing. The Germans, in particular, who are really holding the moneybags. And Europe said, "No. We want everybody to tighten their belts the way we did." And it hasn't worked for Europe. The European Central Bank is now trying to do what the U.S. had done all along: pump a lot of money in. But it may be too little too late.

CAMEROTA: So it's trying to pump a lot of money in. Yet, European Central Bank, no more emergency funding.

FOROOHAR: That's right.

CAMEROTA: Why not?

FOROOHAR: Well, they simply don't feel that they're good for it. This is basically European Central Bank saying, "Hey, you have no bailout deal. There's a good possibility you're going to fall out of the Euro Zone." The ECB will keep trying to put money into the rest of the European economy in the hopes that you won't get more dominos falling.

CAMEROTA: So what does this mean for the U.S.?

FOROOHAR: Well, OK. Between the U.S. and Europe, every day, $3 billion worth of trade. This is one of the world's great trading blocks. So if the Euro Zone goes into a recession, that can affect U.S. companies, U.S. workers, potentially the U.S. stock market. Although that's an interesting question.

[06:25:11] Because you know, when things get really bad in Europe, people look for safe places to put their money. So sometimes, when there's been a blitz in the European crisis, you've seen European market -- excuse me, U.S. markets go down briefly and then go back up.

CAMEROTA: There could be an advantage somehow for U.S. right now.

FOROOHAR: The U.S. will be perceived as a safe place to put your money. U.S. treasuries could go up. The dollar is already rising. So there's a dual effect here.

CAMEROTA: And is there any way that the U.S. gives money to Greece?

FOROOHAR: No way. Matter of fact, most European banks, private creditors and U.S. creditors have been out of Greece for some time. Now, that's not to say that American banks couldn't have some indirect exposure to what's happening there. But most American creditors pulled their money out a while ago.

CAMEROTA: OK, so last, I mean, this is the worst-case scenario. Nobody is going to give Greece any more money. They're teetering on the brink of discussion. Tomorrow, they are supposed to give money that they're not -- to the debt. They're not going to be able to pay. So what, long-term, happens to Greece?

FOROOHAR: I think Greece is going to go back to being very much what it was before it was in the Euro Zone, which is something like a developing country. You know? They were always kind of on the periphery of Europe. The Greeks sort of founded modern civilization. But really, they're a very poor country. China creates a new Greece every six weeks, just to give you a sense of how small they are. And I think there's no good scenario here for Greece.

CAMEROTA: Rana, thanks so much for helping us understand all this. We'll keep an eye on Greece.

Let's go back to Chris.

C. CUOMO: All right. Thank you very much, Alisyn.

So we know now the second of two prison escapees has been captured alive, more than three weeks after he went on the run. Doctors and investigators are working on David Sweat. They want him alive and talking. What has he said so far? We have that next.

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