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Greek Parliament Votes For Bailout Plan; FBI: Church Shooter Should Not Have Had Gun; OPM Director Resigns After Data Breach; Walker Tweets He's Running For President; Sentence for Farid Fata; Interview with Disappeared Mother of Two; ISIS Possibly Recruiting Commercial Pilots; Football Player Arrested for Hitting a Woman. Aired 6-7a ET
Aired July 11, 2015 - 06:00 ET
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BILL CLINTON, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: Bargaining at Dayton made, but we have to do better at making the future. The sacrifice, demands that we do better and we have to do it together. We have no choice. So in all of the leaders from all of the countries and all of the heritages that are here, and steps that a leader from Serbia made to come down here.
CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: That is former President Bill Clinton speaking in Srebrenica on the 20th anniversary of the massacre there honoring the men and the boys who were killed and finally being really acknowledged today.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: We will continue to monitor this here in the U.S. NEW DAY starts right now.
Breaking overnight a major move toward a deal, early this morning, lawmakers accept the bailout plan for Greece aimed at ending the country's debt crisis.
PAUL: Protesters and supporters for Donald Trump in Los Angeles. This morning, though, he's in Arizona where overflow crowds are expected. How will his immigration message resonate in a state so intensely divided on this issue?
BLACKWELL: Outrage over a Michigan doctor sentenced to 45 years for a historic crime. Treating healthy patients for cancer they never had, just to make money.
PAUL: We are always so grateful to have your company. Thank you for spending some time with us this morning. I'm Christi Paul.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Always good to be with you.
And we are starting with that breaking news overnight out of Greece, the Greek parliament has voted to approve the reforms aimed at ending the country's financial crisis and they are now waiting for Eurozone leaders to gather in Brussels to decide its economic fate.
A new proposal would result in spending cuts and increased taxes and it puts the nation in some say a better position to negotiate with its European creditors, but some of those proposals are the very ones that voters rejected in a referendum last Sunday.
CNN business correspondent, Richard Quest joins us on the phone now. Richard, tell us what we know about this proposal that is now moving forward -- Richard.
RICHARD QUEST, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): Good morning from Brussels.
BLACKWELL: Good morning, Richard.
QUEST: Can you hear me?
BLACKWELL: Yes, we've got you. Tell us what we know about this proposal that has been approved there by the parliament.
QUEST: Right. Well, it's basically exactly the same proposal that was put forward weeks ago, but was rejected by the Greek government and indeed, was rejected by the Greek people in the referendum, but there were no better terms on the table, so they have had to accept it, whatever they like.
And now -- but this is the interesting bit because although in parliament they have accepted it, begrudgingly, many MPs were against it and many of the ruling party were against it, but it did pass.
Victor, what is interesting now is it gets discussed in Europe. I'm in the heart of Europe. I'm in Brussels now where they are going to be looking at a study that has been done to decide should this bird fly, because although the Greeks have asked for it, the Europeans still have to decide whether they are going to ground it.
BLACKWELL: We know that Angela Merkel was getting some pushback from the people of Germany asking her to say no to this proposal.
QUEST: Yes. Germany is already owed some 60 odd billion by the Greeks and now we are talking about a deal that could take another 60 or 60 billion on to the total debt burden of Greece. Germany will be bearing a huge part of that.
The German people -- what this really comes down to is economics versus politics. At the end of the day, how much do the -- does the Eurozone, the European governments want to keep this thing together?
If they do, then they will go along with the loan. If they don't because frankly and honestly, if you look at it economically, it's a dicey proposition, there is no question.
The amount of debt involved, the numbers, the sustainability. Everything about it is a little bit gutty. But if you believe that there needs to be a single Europe with a single currency, it's a political movement, not just an economic movement, then they give the go ahead today.
BLACKWELL: All right, we will continue this conversation throughout the morning so much to unpack here. Richard quest, thank you so much. QUEST: Thank you.
[06:05:08] PAUL: Meanwhile, developing now, the FBI trying to figure out how a string of blunders put a gun into the hands of the shooter in the Charleston church massacre. The FBI admitting that Dylann Roof, the man charged with killing nine people at the historic black church should never have been able to buy a gun.
The agency says there was a breakdown in Roof's background check when he went to buy that gun back in April. A 30-day review is now underway. Here is what we do know.
The agent handling Roof's background check did not find out that he had admitted to drug possession when he was arrested in February that would have halted any gun sale.
She was confused apparently about where he had been arrested and didn't get the police report. Local prosecutors did not respond to her request for more information, so a friend of one of the victims told CNN, he's just stunned.
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HARRISON REARDON, FRIEND OF CHURCH SHOOTING VICTIM: I am really shocked at the news that I've heard today. To be very honest with you, I did not hear this before today and I really can't authenticate it, but it's shocking to me.
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PAUL: Pamela Brown is following this for us -- Pamela.
PAMELA BROWN, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Well, good morning, Christi and Victor. This shows a huge breakdown in the background check system which is run by the FBI. FBI Director James Comey admitting that a series of errors enabled Dylan Roof to buy the gun he used to kill those church goers.
The man who confessed to gunning down nine people inside a South Carolina church should never have been able to buy the .45 caliber gun he used to kill them.
That bombshell coming from FBI Director James Comey who told reporters in a closed door session his bureau made a mistake during Dylann Roof's background check, a mistake he said was, quote, "of heart breaking importance" that, quote, "rips all of our hearts out."
PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: It just shows how a bureaucratic mistake can cost human life.
BROWN: Director Comey says the FBI examiner doing Roof's background check didn't discover Roof admitted to illegally possessing drugs when he was arrested in late February. That information would have prevented Roof from passing the background check and buying the gun.
CALLAN: There is a regulation that says if he was a drug user he shouldn't have got a gun and there was abundant information for the FBI to have had that information. Had they had it, no gun sale and possibly no shooting here.
BROWN: Comey says the FBI examiner failed to make contact with the Columbia, South Carolina Police Department, which arrested Roof on that felony drug charge, in part, because of a clerical error that listed the wrong police department in the records.
After the three-day waiting period for the background check, the South Carolina gun shop legally used its digression to sell Roof the gun even though his status was still pending.
Gun law activists say this error is another example of why they believe the three-day waiting period needs to be longer.
ALLISON ANDERMAN, LAW CENTER TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE: The fact that the dealer was allowed to proceed after three days and perhaps the examiner did not have enough time to fully conduct the investigation and right now, they are not given adequate time under that three-day default.
BROWN: The victims' families still grieving the loss of their loved ones met with FBI officials who explained the error and promised to work on fixing the system.
BROWN: The FBI's revelation today contradicts earlier assertions that the background check was done properly. Director Comey said he concluded Thursday night after reviewing the latest information that a mistake had been made. Essentially the examiner didn't do her due diligence to contact the correct police department that arrested Roof on that drug charge -- Christi and Victor.
BLACKWELL: All right, Pamela Brown, thank you so much. Let's bring in CNN law enforcement analyst, Tom Fuentes. Tom, you were the former FBI assistant director so good to have you to talk about this this morning.
First, I think there are a lot of people, and I'm one of them, who is surprised that this is done through paper work by hand. I'm sure that there are some who assumed that this was an automated system to prevent some of these blunders.
TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, unfortunately, Victor, it's not completely automated. In this situation, you know, there is a little bit more to the story in terms of the complexity of what the examiner was trying to do to find out.
You know, the rap sheet that she had to work with did not show that Dylann had admitted to using drugs. The arrest report did, but it was not from the right county, you know, the records that she had.
So part of the problem that Columbia, a small part of that city is in Lexington County and the biggest part of the city is in Richmond County. When she was trying to obtain the records from the county, they said, well, you know, we don't have that, you have to check Columbia.
So she goes to a sheet that lists which departments are in which county and it doesn't list Columbia as being in that county so she thinks, because the gun had been purchased in West Columbia that maybe they made the arrest.
[06:10:10] So she contacted them and they said we don't have that record, contact Columbia. She contacts them. By the time all this goes back and forth obviously it did go past the three-day period.
So there is a little bit of confusion as to what was in the records that she had at the time she had them. She did not have the record at that point that he admitted using drugs in his arrest for drug possession.
BLACKWELL: Tom, you bring up that three-day period, which I think is important. We heard from that activist there that there are of course, these calls that now being extended to extend the three-day waiting period. Do you think that should be longer?
FUENTES: Well, I think, you know, the mechanism now is that at the end of three days, if the gun dealer has not heard back from the FBI or if it's within their state, they have not heard back from the state that does this because 30 states use the FBI to do it their own.
But if they have not heard back from the authorities, they can go ahead and sell the gun. Later, if it turns out it was a mistake, they contact ATF to go to that person to try to get the gun back, which is a difficult situation.
Part of the problem also comes up trying to get record checks over weekends when it has to be by phone or fax and there is not an electronic connection directly.
BLACKWELL: But should that change, should that change, I mean, if these gun sellers don't hear from the FBI after three days, they should be allowed to sell the gun, I mean, should there be, you know, an additional two days in which you then go back to the FBI and find out, you know, what's the deal with the background check?
FUENTES: That's true. I think it probably should be extended, but you know, it's been hard enough to get three days in the first place. People don't like this. The idea of the three days was not so much that the record checks could be completed.
It was a cooling off period so that if somebody had a fight with their spouse, they couldn't run in the gun shop and buy a gun and run home and kill that person and gave them time to cool off. Really that was more of the purpose in the first place.
BLACKWELL: All right, Tom, we will talk about this a little later in the morning. Thanks so much.
FUENTES: Thank you.
PAUL: A developing story this morning in downtown Cairo. A deadly car bomb attack at the Italian consulate, one person killed and multiple police officers are injured. We'll tell you more.
BLACKWELL: And Donald Trump is met with protests in Los Angeles but, this morning, huge crowds are expecting to welcome him in Arizona. And we have this --
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm sorry. I guess it should have been more.
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BLACKWELL: Strong reaction after a cancer doctor is sentenced for treating more than 500 patients and some of whom did not even have cancer.
PAUL: Developing this morning, Italy says it will not be intimidated after one person was killed outside its consulate in downtown Cairo. A car bomb exploded this early this morning and seven others were injured including two police officers.
No group has immediately claimed responsibility, but Islamic militants have stepped up attacks on police and troops we know. Today's explosion was the first attack targeting a consulate or an embassy in recent years.
BLACKWELL: All right, back in the U.S., huge crowds are expected today for Donald Trump's speech in Phoenix. This morning, the final preps are under way at the Phoenix Convention Center. Organizers actually had to move from another venue to this one because of the large amount of people expected to show up. This comes after his Los Angeles stop where Trump was greeted by protesters.
BLACKWELL: You see the crowd here angered by Trump's recent remarks concerning people crossing the border from Mexico. Trump was there, however, to meet with families whose loved ones were killed by undocumented immigrants. After the closed-door meeting, Trump said this.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The folks were telling me something that was incredible. Whenever somebody hears that it was an illegal that was involved with the death of their children, it becomes politically incorrect for a politician to help them.
That's how messed up our nation is. The problem is the country of Mexico has leaders that are far smarter than our leaders, far more cunning than our leaders. Their negotiators are much better than our negotiators. And they are sending people into our country that we don't want, but we take, and that they don't want and you know who they are sending. We are housing people from all over the world that other countries don't want.
They are sending criminals to us and we are putting those criminals in jail. Oftentimes after they have killed somebody or hurt somebody.
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BLACKWELL: Well, coming up throughout the morning, we are going to take a look ahead to his Arizona visit and how this issue of immigration is dividing, in many ways, the Republican Party.
PAUL: Meanwhile, investigators in South Texas say someone intentionally set two churches on fire.
BLACKWELL: Plus last night, Scott Walker's Twitter account announced that he is running for president. Only thing is, the Wisconsin governor is not running yet.
BLACKWELL: All right, 22 minutes after the hour now. Here is a look at stories making headlines this morning.
PAUL: Office of Personnel Management Director Katherine Archuleta has resigned in the wake of the worst ever hack on the U.S. government. April's breach possibly orchestrated by the Chinese government stole sensitive data of more than 22 million people. President Obama accepted the resignation because new leadership was, quote, "badly needed in the agency."
BLACKWELL: Investigators in South Texas are searching for criminals who set two churches on fire yesterday. The officials there say that all evidence at the scene indicates that the fires were intentionally set. This comes after several churches across the south burned in recent weeks. Some believed to have been arson.
PAUL: Take a look at the massive crowds in Paraguay that welcomed Pope Francis. He is wrapping up weeklong trip to South America this weekend. In about two hours, the pope is expected to visit a children's hospital and then give mass at Paraguay's most important Marion Shrine.
BLACKWELL: So last night, Scott Walker's Twitter account jumped the gun and announced that he is running for president. Here is the problem -- the governor of Wisconsin is not running yet at least. He is expected to announce his White House bid next week.
Now Twitter says the glitch was their fault, not Walker's, and they are looking into the issue. Walker deleted that tweet, but he rode with it and then posted the official campaign logo on Twitter. PAUL: Well, a cancer doctor is headed to prison from his treating patients, many of whom did not even have cancer. How does that happen and what the victims' families are saying. Stay close.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): After easily beating Maria Sharapova in the Wimbledon semifinals, 33-year-old Serena Williams is on the verge of winning her fourth consecutive major. Her opponent in today's finals, Spanish 21-year-old Garbine Muguruza who has an impressive win against Serena in the second round of last year's French Open.
SERENA WILLIAMS, TENNIS PROFESSIONAL: It's definitely not an easy matchup. She actually has a win against me and we had a tough match the last time we played and she's given me problems in the past, so this time, I have to just, you know, go in it like have fun and do the best that I can and just try to stay positive and stay focused.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Focus hasn't been a problem for Serena who has one singles loss all year, today she is playing in her 25th career grand slam final. She has won 20 of those 24 matches, including five titles in seven final appearances at the all-England Club. Serena, slam, maybe. American dynasty, definitely!
BLACKWELL: All right, coming up on the bottom of the hour now. Let's check stories developing right now. Greek parliament voted to approve reforms and in a few hours, Eurozone leaders will be meeting to decide if the nation should get a bailout package.
PAUL: That new proposal puts Greece in a better position to negotiate with its European creditors, but the reforms are very similar to the same ones rejected by the Greek people in a referendum last Sunday.
BLACKWELL: One person is dead and at least seven others injured in downtown Cairo after a car bomb exploded outside the Italian consulate this morning. Two officers are among those injured. No group has immediately claimed responsibility, but authorities say Islamic militants had been targeting police and troops.
PAUL: A Detroit area doctor is headed to prison for giving cancer treatment drugs to more than 500 patients who didn't need them, some of them didn't even have cancer. Dr. Farid Fata was sentenced yesterday to 45 years and that just is not enough for some of these people.
It was a really emotional ending for families of these victims and Jonathan Carlson from our CNN affiliate, WXYZ, has more for us here.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) JONATHAN CARLSON, WXYZ REPORTER (voice-over): Tears and hugs come naturally these days for this group.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's not all right, actually. It's not all right.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know? It's not all right, but you have an amazing attitude.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Amazing!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's god.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All god.
CARLSON: They are bound by tragic circumstances. Each one a victim in some form or fashion of a cancer doctor prosecutors say did the unthinkable.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This, we believe, to be the most serious fraud case in the history of the country.
CARLSON: But it was so much more than just fraud to these folks. They lost their health or their loved one to Dr. Farid Fata's care or lack thereof. More than 500 patients were unnecessarily pumped with drugs, prosecutors say, lives altered or ended and emotional week, which began with victims sharing their stories of pain finished with Doctor Fata himself sobbing before the judge, begging for leniency, but it didn't seem to matter. The judge went by the book tallying the crimes and the mandated sentences that go with them. 45 years in jail.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 45 years for the lives that he took.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was not enough. All of the victims. My sister is gone. It just wasn't enough.
CARLSON: Prosecutors wanted what the families wanted, 175 years.
BARBARA MCQUADE, U.S. ATTORNEY: We believed that nothing short of a life sentence was appropriate in this case because the harm was so egregious.
CARLSON: But for families, they concede prison terms will never bring complete closure.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can't bring any of them back. You can't - can't heal the hurt.
CARLSON: So, where do these men and women go from here? Well, they are still trying to figure that out.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hopefully, you know, move on somewhat, or try to now.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's been a very long road and a very hard journey for all of us!
BLACKWELL: Our thanks to Jonathan Carlson with WXYZ for that report.
So, we heard from the reporter there, 45 years. Let's talk about that. We have with us HLN legal analyst and criminal defense attorney Joey Jackson. Joey, good morning to you.
JOEY JACKSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning.
BLACKWELL: 45 years, 500 patients given cancer drugs who did not need them. These families say that's not enough.
JACKSON: You know, Victor, it's 553 patients and it's a person who was clearly and intentionally providing treatments to those who didn't need them. And if you listen to the federal prosecutor and the indictment in the case, this is a person who saw a person not as an individual, but as a profit center, according to them, and clearly abdicated fully his responsibility as a doctor all in the interest of greed and money. And, you know, when you have the prosecutor asking for 175 years and you have 553 people who were either over-treated, misdiagnosed, clearly, something is amiss here. And I think what the federal judge did, certainly cannot speak for him, but I think that there is always appeals. Appeals based upon Eighth Amendment cruel and unusual punishment, would 175 years have been something that would have been considered on appeal to be excessive? I think what the federal judge clearly did was void that even argument, you know, whether the amount of time he gave is reasonable or not, it amounts to what I believe to be a life sentence. This person is 50 years old. Will not see the light of day, if at all, into their upper 80s based upon federal sentencing and when they could potentially be released. And so, I think this doctor will die in jail.
BLACKWELL: We have got joining the conversation, Joey, I want to welcome Jeff Gardere, psychologist and a professor of behavioral medicine at Touro College. Jeff, I wonder when we look at this doctor who, as Joey says, was treating these people not as patients, but as profit centers, what do we understand about this man and the way he was dealing with people's lives?
JEFF GARDERE, PSYCHOLOGIST: Not take the Hippocratic Oath as something that was his doctrine which is what we teach all of our medical students and, of course, future doctors. And certainly this blatant disregard for his patients' health, for even their lives. These types of actions are absolutely not tolerated and why this person will be punished to the full extent of the law. We have a doctrine which says that the patient is number one and certainly that did not happen here. In this case, his own profits and his own greed were number one. BLACKWELL: Hey, Jeff, I wonder when we hear the description of Dr.
Fata before the court sobbing and pleading for leniency. Is this just the last-ditch effort to save, you know, his freedom, or is this something else psychologically?
GARDERE: No. I think, certainly, this may be a last-ditch effort to save his freedom. But you know, you ask a very interesting question. We are seeing something here, a part of a personality where someone doesn't really take responsibility even at sentencing now. Here's an individual, instead of being remorseful for the patients is still looking at saving his own skin. And I think this is the kind of a personality, the kind of an individual who, again, it was about the pleasure principle looking out only for himself that led to this sort of a horrific situation for his patients and their families.
BLACKWELL: Joey, the prosecutors and the families wanted 175 years, life in prison essentially. He got 45. Will he have to spend or serve all 45 years?
JACKSON: You know, close to it. Usually, in the federal system, if you engage in good behavior, it's a lot more stringent than the state. And so for every year potentially they could take a month off of that. And so, clearly he'll be in jail for a long time. And Victor, briefly, it's important to talk about, you know, how the case is brought about. The government can't find every particular instance of fraud, and so when you have a whistleblower as occurred in this case, someone in the office who alerts the government as to some untoward inappropriate potentially unlawful activity, that false claims act, under the federal guidelines, that allows you as an individual to sue your employer really under seal. They don't even know you're suing them. A federal investigation sues and, bam! You have this. And so it speaks to, you know, the importance of that false claim statute to allow people who see fraud to say something about it and to preserve and help people to live as happened in this particular case, and the reward under that is really substantial, when you alert the government to fraud and as fraud recovered, you, yourself are entitled to 15 and 25 percent of it. And then finally, Victor, clearly the victims here are going to want -- I can't even say justice because when someone dies at the hand of a doctor who just has no morality or compass in them, there is no justice to be found. But I think as a civil component where the family will collect and file civil lawsuits in this case as well.
BLACKWELL: All right. As described, the most egregious case of fraud in American history. Thanks for helping us unpack this one. Joey Jackson, Jeff Gardere, good to have both of you.
GARDERE: Thank you.
JACKSON: Thank you. Have a great day. Take care, Jeff.
GARDERE: Thank you, Joey.
PAUL: Well, family members are desperate to find out what happened to a missing mother of five. Here is her picture. Please take a good look. Her car was found on the side of the road. Her keys, her purse still inside. We are talking to her sister about this in just a couple of moments.
Also, does ISIS have commercial pilots in its ranks? New details on an alarming new intelligence report.
PAUL: Whatever you're doing, please do me a favor and take a look at the screen right now. Because a Kentucky family this morning is offering $71,000 reward for any information on this woman. She is a mom of five and she has been missing for more than a week. No one has heard from Crystal Rogers since last Friday night. She was last seen, we know, by her boyfriend at his family farm. Police searched that property yesterday and authorities say Brooks Houck, the boyfriend, is cooperating with their investigation, but her family says he is not helping them look for her.
Rogers' father and brother found her car Sunday about 12 miles from the boyfriend's house. The car had a flat tire. Her purse and phone were still inside. In fact, the keys were still in the ignition. So, let's talk about this with Crystal Rogers's sister Brook Ballard. Brook, thank you so much for being with us.
BROOK BALLARD: Thank you.
PAUL: We really appreciate it and I know this is a tough time for you. So, first of all, can you tell me a little bit more about Crystal and is there any reason you think she would intentionally disappear?
BALLARD: She wouldn't have intentionally disappeared. Me and her was really close. Any time that they would have gotten into an argument or, you know, she would have - took a minute to leave, she would have texted me. She would have let me keep - you know, kept the baby and she wouldn't have left him.
PAUL: She wouldn't have left the baby at her boyfriend's house. Is what you mean?
PAUL: I saw her boyfriend told Nancy Grace earlier this week that, quote, "we have had a stressed relationship at times. What can you tell us about what you know of their relationship?"
BALLARD: I know that she was jealous a few times of other women that he let into the picture, you know? So, of course, trust was a huge or deal in the relationship. So, yes, it was stressful at times from hearing from her.
PAUL: Do you trust him that he is doing what he can to help find her? Do you and your family?
BALLARD: No, I do not. No. PAUL: What is your biggest concern about him?
BALLARD: He likes -- I think he likes the hot stuff. He doesn't always give the truth out 100 percent. Like he talks his way around things.
PAUL: OK, well, we want - we just want to point out that he did tell Nancy Grace he took a polygraph and the results were inconclusive, but he said I've been 100 percent completely honest with everyone and cooperative in everything that has been asked of him. I wanted to ask you, too, knowing that she has five children ranging in age, as I understand it, from six to two, and how are they and what are you telling them at this point?
BALLARD: Actually, her oldest will be 16. We are just telling her kids that we are going to find her and we are going to bring her home. I mean, that's all we can do right now. And they are upset and they just want their mom to come home.
PAUL: And how are ...
BALLARD: They really don't understand.
PAUL: How are you and the whole family holding up? I know that it's so difficult.
BALLARD: We are hanging in there for the kids. That's my main point right now, to be strong for them.
PAUL: Well, Brooke Ballard, thank you so much for talking to us. We certainly wish you the very best and we will keep our eye on this as well as I know you're doing everything you can to find her. Thank you.
BALLARD: Thank you.
PAUL: And when we talk about that investigation, let's bring in CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes here. Tom, again, I want to go back to what the boyfriend in this case Brook Houck told Nancy Grace that he took a polygraph, that the results were inconclusive. What does that mean, first of all, and how reliable are though tests, in your opinion?
TOM FUENTES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In my best opinion, Christie, I'm not a big fan of polygraph.
FUENTES: It's usually only as reliable as the skill of the examiner doing it and usually it comes down to that person's interviewing skills, as much as the machine. I just - I don't think they are extremely accurate. Then they come up with an inconclusive so in a way that doesn't mean anything to me.
PAUL: When you hear this story, what do you - what does your gut feeling tell you about this boyfriend? He said that he hasn't even looked for legal assistance or advice because he is innocent. Do you think, based on everything we know, just about - missing person cases that he should lawyer up?
FUENTES: Well, I think often in these cases, it has to do with the relationship. So there is many of these, whether it's a spouse or a boyfriend, you know, that enters into it in many cases. So, yes, he would be somebody that would be definitely of interest to the police. But also, you know, she could have met with other foul play so that is not going to be able to be determined, I don't think, until they find her body or find her alive someplace. And then also, you know, it could be, you know, was it the stress of having that many children and having to support them and take care of them, combined with the relationship that was stormy at times by admission? So, you know, obviously she would have been under a great deal of stress in any event, even without a flat tire, even without what happened.
So, you know, there is many possibilities here and I think the investigators just can't jump to a conclusion too soon.
FUENTES: Until they get more facts.
PAUL: All right, Tom Fuentes, we appreciate your insight on that. Thank you so much again. Crystal Rogers, 35, disappeared from Bardstown, Kentucky, eight days ago.
BLACKWELL: We have got to talk about Florida State University now. Because it's happened again. Another football player at FSU is facing charges of hitting a woman. Ahead, the player who is being accused and the details of this case. The second time in less than a week.
Plus, a new report says commercial pilots may have been radicalized by ISIS. We will examine how big the threat may be to the U.S. and abroad.
PAUL: Edging for the 7:00 hour right now. So glad to have you with us.
Australian authorities are warning ISIS may have commercial pilots in its ranks. The new report indicates authorities are concerned that two commercial pilots may have been radicalized by the terror group. One of the pilots said he was in St. Louis for flight training just a few months ago. CNN's Brian Todd has the latest.
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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The 9/11 attacks, the Germanwings crash horrifying evidence of what can happen when the wrong person takes control of a commercial plane. Now, new questions on whether ISIS has commercial pilots in its ranks. Australian authorities are concerned about the potential radicalization of two Indonesian commercial pilots. That's according to an intelligence report believed to be from the Australian federal police. The report says of the pilots "both appear to be influenced by pro I.S. elements." The document obtained by the news website "The Intercept" says one of the pilots last September began to post pro-ISIS messages on social media, started interacting with people affiliated with ISIS, and later listed his current city as Raqqa, Syria, ISIS's stronghold. It's not clear if that pilot ever actually traveled to Syria and CNN has not been able to independently verify the contents of the Australian police documents. A U.S. counterterrorism official tells CNN ISIS has specifically called for skilled professionals to join their self- declared caliphate. Analysts say they are looking for a broad range.
One thing that they certainly need is mechanics because of all the heavy armor that they use. Having pilots as well is probably something that is in their designs. The pilots would be worth much more if they kept their activities covert rather than the very overt statements.
DAVID GARTENSTEIN-ROSS, FOUNDATION FOR THE DEFENSE OF DEMOCRACIES: One thing that they certainly need is mechanics, because of all the heavy armor that they use. Having pilots as well is probably something that's in their design. The pilots should be worth much more if they kept activity covered, rather than the very overstatements of support.
TODD: There's no evidence so far ISIS actually recruited either of the two pilots. One of the pilots sent messages to local Indonesian media denying any ties to ISIS. Both of them reportedly no longer work for commercial airlines, but could a trained commercial pilot with terrorist leanings infiltrate the airline industry?
LES ABEND, COMMERCIAL AIRLINE PILOT: Commercial pilots have knowledge of not only the aircraft and the systems and are intimate with the aircraft itself, but as far as security procedures, we have been trained with various verbal codes, various things that we do as pilots if there is an on-board nefarious act occurring. Having knowledge of that could be an infiltration of that particular system.
TODD: Indonesia's national police chief tells CNN their investigation shows the two pilots are not directly involved with ISIS, but he also says they often post about ISIS on Facebook and they are sympathizers. The Indonesian foreign ministry says it has asked the country's security agencies for more information about the two pilots. The Australian federal police tell CNN it does not comment on intelligence matters. Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.
BLACKWELL: Let's expand the conversation we've got with Lieutenant General Mark Hertling joining us. Good to have you, general. I want to start generally. Your reaction to this report that these likely ISIS sympathizers, these pilots?
LT. GEN. MARK HERTLING: It's not surprising, Victor. It's ISIS and extremist Islamists are trying to get into every walk of life. It's particularly dangerous with airline pilots, because as the report just said, they not only have capability of flying aircraft, but they also have the knowledge of security procedures in various airports and how flights come in and out. But the good news is, if there is some good news in this, is that it has been detected in the intelligence sharing between different intelligence agencies and police and international agencies is very good in this case. Again, no proof behind this allegation that there was any intent by either of these two pilots, Mr. Augusto and Mr. Afelta (ph), but, truthfully, it's concerning that it's continuing ISIS expansion is continuing to go into all walks of life.
BLACKWELL: And that is what is striking here is typically when we have these conversations about people who are vulnerable to the propaganda of ISIS we are talking about young people, teenagers and 20 something who feel that they are isolated. Here we have two respected professionals and that follows ISIS call for professionals to join their ranks.
HERTLING: Well, both of these individuals are still relatively young and I'm saying that as an old dude, but they are in their 20s.
HERTLING: The fact of the matter is, ISIS doesn't specifically relate just to teenagers or just to the down tribe. The message of jihad is going all over the Islamic world and that's why the requirement to get some moderate imams to preach counter to this ideology is critically important. Anyone can be reached by this message. When they feel like they have a greater need to contribute to their religion or to something outside their normal walk of activity, they have to be very careful of this type of truth -- truthfully, it's brain washing, but it affects any age.
BLACKWELL: Yeah, U.S. counterterrorism official telling CNN that ISIS has specifically called for skilled professionals to join their self- declared caliphate.
Lieutenant General Hertling, thank you so much. We will continue this conversation at the top of the hour.
HERTLING: Thanks, Victor.
PAUL: Well, Donald Trump is going to talk to an overflow crowd in Arizona about his immigration message in just a few hours. Protesters, meanwhile, take to the streets in L.A. to express their outrage. Here is the thing -- it doesn't seem to be affecting his poll numbers. A political panel is going to weigh in ahead.
Also, another FSU player in hot water for allegedly hitting a woman several times. It's the second time in less than a week. What is going on? We have a live report for you next.
PAUL: Well, for the second time in less than a week, a Florida State football player is facing charges after allegedly hitting a woman several times. BLACKWELL: Yeah, Coy Wire is here with this disturbing story.
Another one. What is going on?
COY WIRE: Yeah, this is serious problems, guys. So, we are going to look at this now. We are talking about running back Dalvin Cook who was suspended indefinitely after he's charged yesterday with misdemeanor battery for allegedly punching a woman in the face. This happened outside of Tallahassee bar. It happened June 23rd. According to County sheriff's office, he turned himself into police hours after a warrant was issued for his arrest. But he's denying the allegation. Now, Cook's had a run in with the law before. Last year, he was named in an aggravated assault case where two men were alleged to have waved a gun at a neighbor. Cook was charged with criminal mischief and has since completed the diversion program. Now, remember, the Florida state football program, they made headlines just a couple of days ago when this happened, this video here. It shows another Seminole player quarterback Deandre Johnson there striking a woman. He was charged with misdemeanor, battery. This happened just one day after this Dalvin Cook incident allegedly took place. So, like Cook, Johnson was initially suspended, but he was then kicked off the team when that video was made public.
So, a bit of a disturbing trend here with Florida State football. Star running back Carlos Williams was involved in a domestic battery investigation last year. He was never charged. Of course, Jameis Winston, he was accused of sexual assault in 2013. He was never charged either. But we want to know what you think. Does Florida state football have an institutional problem or is it just a few bad apples that are spoiling the bunch? Tweet us using hashtag "new day CNN". We would love to hear your comments and use them in the next hour.
PAUL: Absolutely. Thank you.
BLACKWELL: Coy, thank you.
PAUL: So, there is so much more news to tell you about this morning.
BLACKWELL: Next hour of your "NEW DAY" starts right now.
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DONALD TRUMP: So, you have the illegals come in and the illegals killed their children.
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BLACKWELL: Donald Trump zeroes in on undocumented immigrants and protesters zeroes in on him.
BLACKWELL: But in spite of the Trump bashers, he is packing in an overflow crowd in Arizona today.