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Container Ship Had Problem with Main Propulsion System; At Least 18 Dams Breached in South Carolina Floods; U.S. General: Afghan Forces Requested Airstrike; Fantasy Sports Sites Facing Insider Trading Questions; Democrats on Benghazi Panel Release Testimony. Aired 6-6:30a ET

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's a hurricane out here, and we are heading straight into it.

[05:58:42] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Rescuers desperately searching for survivors.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Even where (UNINTELLIGIBLE), you're essentially looking for something the size of a basketball.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If they abandoned ship, they did so into a Category 4 hurricane.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is water as far as the eye can see.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nine dams have failed in South Carolina.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think she was holding onto one of the wheels of the car.

GOV. NIKKI HALEY (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: This is not over.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The rain has stopped, but the floods have not yet subsided.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't even think he can register what happened yet. It's just too much.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For whatever reason, Matthew is who the shooter has called the lucky one.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He lived. For that he feels guilty.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, welcome to your NEW DAY. It's Tuesday, October 6, 6 a.m. in the east. And here is the latest. At least one body has been spotted from

a 790-foot cargo ship that sank last Thursday in the middle of Hurricane Joaquin over the Bahamas. This is now making time of the essence as rescuers comb two debris fields and follow all these reports from other vessels. The ship's owners are now telling the Associated Press that the ship suffered mechanical failure as it tried to avoid the storm.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: The ship had 34 people on board, 28 of them Americans. The NTSB launches a go team this morning to investigate. Is it possible that anyone survived the hurricane that tore through their route? CNN's Alexandra Field joins us now with the very latest. What have you learned, Alexandra?

ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely. We know there's a lot of hope that there are more survivors out there. But what we've learned so far from the Coast Guard is that they did recover at least one body.

However, they were not able to identify that body, and they were not able to recover the body. Instead, they've had to move on to investigate every other possible sign of life out in the sea. This is a joint effort between the Coast Guard, the Army and the Navy. This morning and overnight, they have been looking out there, trying to find any more survivors.

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FIELD (voice-over); Overnight, a new sobering image from the desperate search for the missing cargo ship El Faro. A U.S. Coast Guard member seen carrying this recovered life ring back to land. The ship now likely on the floor of the Caribbean Sea, 33 crew members, including 28 Americans, missing after Hurricane Joaquin zeroed in on their location.

CAPT. MARK FEDOR, U.S. COAST GUARD: If the vessel did sink on Thursday and that crew is able to abandon ship, they would have been abandoning ship into a Category 4 hurricane.

FIELD: Recently released video from the search zone showing this empty life boat. Human remains also found. Many are now wondering, why would the ship set sail with a hurricane brewing? With winds of 140 miles per hour and waves topping 50 feet.

DESTINY SPARROW, DAUGHTER OF EL FARO CREW MANAGER: That's what I do not like. I don't think that they should have shipped them out when they knew that was going on. That makes no sense to me at all.

FIELD: The ship's owners telling the Associated Press the vessel's captain had planned to bypass the storm but was unable to because of a mechanical failure. That left the boat adrift in the path of the Category 4 hurricane. The company maintains that safety is its No. 1 priority.

ANTHONY CHIARELLO, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF TOTE INC.: I can assure you that there is no schedule that's more important to keep that would in any way endanger the lives of our crew members or employees.

FIELD: Officials concluding El Faro sank near the Bahamas in about 15,000 feet of water. As crews continue searching those dark waters, families cling to the hope that their loved ones are out there.

CHIEF PETTY OFFICER RYAN DOSS, U.S. COAST GUARD: They may still be alive. That's why we're out there searching.

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FIELD: Most important right now is every possible effort to try and find any of the survivors out there. But we know the next step here will be a thorough investigation that's going to be taken on by the NTSB and the Coast Guard.

Certainly, they will be looking into these reports that the ship lost power. We know the ship left Jacksonville, Florida, on Tuesday. It was bound for Puerto Rico. The forecast for Joaquin did change a lot throughout the day on Tuesday, but our own CNN meteorologist Brandon Miller says that, by late Tuesday afternoon, it was clear that the hurricane was moving in the direction that that ship would have been heading in -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: OK, Alexandra. Let's find out what the Coast Guard has discovered in the past 24 hours. Joining us now is Captain Mark Fedor. He's chief of response for the U.S. Coast Guard's 7th District in Miami.

Good morning, Captain. Thanks so much for being with us. What has your search turned up in the past 24 hours?

FEDOR: So what we've done with our search is we first started, we were looking for the ship. And we searched an area basically the size of California. Yesterday, we reduced that search down to two main debris fields. And those areas are basically the size of a larger city and a smaller city.

So we've really focused in on survivors. All we've been able to locate is we've recovered five life rings, a personal flotation device, and we also sighted two survival suits, a deflated life raft and a damaged life boat, which you have seen the video of.

CAMEROTA: You spotted those two survival suits. As we understand, one of them had a body in it. If someone was -- we understand that there were enough life suits on board for every one of those crew members. If someone were able to have donned a life suit and did go overboard, could they have survived this hurricane?

FEDOR: The challenge is, the vessel was disabled, was without propulsion on Thursday morning. If they were able to abandon ship and put on their survival suits, they would have been abandoning ship into that Category 4 hurricane. So you're talking about 140 mile-an-hour winds, 50-foot seas, zero visibility. It's a very dire situation, a very challenging situation even for the most experienced mariner. CAMEROTA: We understand, as you said, that you found a life --

one of the life rafts. and there were two on board and they could each fit, I believe, 43 people. Does that mean that someone deployed those life rafts, and people attempted to get in them? Or might they have just been knocked overboard?

FEDOR: Yes. So we discovered one of the life boats, which is the one you saw the video of. That's kind of the hard shell ones. There's two of those. It's hard to -- it's really hard to tell now whether they actually deployed it or whether it was blown off the ship or removed from the ship while it was disabled. It was heavily damaged. So obviously, it went through a lot of impact, a traumatic impact.

[06:05:04] CAMEROTA: Captain, this is so haunting, this whole story, I mean, the idea that this 750-foot-long ship, the size of 2 1/2 football fields, laden with cars and trailers, just vanishes. Can you just give us some perspective on how unusual this is?

FEDOR: It is uncommon for a ship like this to suffer this type -- type of fate. The challenge is, no matter how big the ship is, when you are disabled, and you're at sea and you're in the middle of a storm -- they were disabled basically right by the eye of Hurricane Joaquin, where the strongest winds are. So when the ship was disabled, they basically fall into the trough of the hurricane, meaning they are beamed to the waves. The waves are hitting them from the side. The wind is hitting them from the side.

And the size and strength of that storm is just enough to overcome just about anything. So it was the worst possible situation for that ship to be disabled right by the eye of the hurricane.

CAMEROTA: Captain, what will you do today? Where will you look? What's the plan?

FEDOR: So overnight, we -- we had our three Coast Guard cutters that were out there. There are also three commercial tugs that are on scene that were hired by the company.

So this morning, coming up here at first light, we will have more aircraft out on scene: Coast Guard C-130, Hercules aircraft and Air Force C-130, as well as a Navy P-8. And yes, we're going to focus our search efforts onto the smaller areas around those debris fields and do all we can to identify and search for any signs of life, any survivors.

CAMEROTA: OK. We wish you Godspeed with all of that. We know that you have a Herculean task ahead of you. Thanks so much for making time for us, Captain. We appreciate it.

Let's get over to Michaela.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Well, the rain has stopped, Alisyn, but the floodwaters and the threat level continue to rise in the Carolinas. At least 13 people have lost their lives in those two flood-ravaged states. Making matters worse, at least 18 dams have breached or failed in South Carolina since Saturday, leaving entire neighborhoods submerged and without drinking water.

CNN's Nick Valencia is live in hard-hit Columbia, South Carolina, with the latest for us on conditions there -- Nick.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Michaela.

At this point yesterday, we would be standing under several feet of water. Those floodwaters have largely receded, but the threat still remains, especially for the low country as this water filters into the rivers and streams.

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VALENCIA (voice-over): Officials in South Carolina waking up to lingering fears, that more catastrophic flooding and new dam breaches could be on the way.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From the river standpoint, we haven't hit the worst of it yet.

VALENCIA: Monday night, eight dams failing, buckling under the pressure of historic rains. Eighteen failing since Saturday, some areas seeing more than 20 inches. The deluge to blame for more than a dozen deaths in the Carolinas.

HALEY: Just because the rain stops, does not mean that we are out of the woods.

VALENCIA: This road collapsed in Lugoth, claiming the life of a man driving with a female passenger, the vehicle careening through barricades. She survived, pulled from the overturned wreckage amid (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

VALENCIA: In Ridgeville, a chilling rescue of a different kind. Flood waters uninterring caskets from a nearby cemetery.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Somebody's family out there. Got to show respect. This is respect. We've got to respect the dead.

VALENCIA: This man risking his own life, venturing into waist deep water, pushing a casket to shore.

In the hard-hit area of downtown Columbia, the Congaree River peaking to the highest it's been in decades, covering interstate roads, leaving homes under water and washing out bridges.

Now at least six nearby states sending emergency workers into South Carolina for added flood relief. So far, 1,300 National Guard members are on duty. Crews in Blackhawk helicopters leading statewide rescue efforts.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sad because people have lost their businesses. They've lost homes. And it affected everybody across the board. It did not discriminate.

VALENCIA: The devastation prompting President Obama to declare South Carolina a major disaster area, ordering federal aid.

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VALENCIA: With the rain easing up, state and local government have a better sense of the damage here. Early estimates put the cost of the cleanup in the hundreds of millions of dollars -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Nick. Thank you very much for the reporting.

Let's get the latest from the government side. We have Derrec Becker, public information coordinator for South Carolina's Emergency Management Division. This is that dangerous period. The rain has stopped. People, therefore, think it is over. What is your level of urgency?

DERREC BECKER, PUBLIC INFORMATION COORDINATOR, SOUTH CAROLINA'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION (via phone): Chris, that's very correct. That's what one of our main concerns, is the fact that people may be lulled into a false sense of hope. And we certainly don't want to give people hope in that we are going to start to see rain tapering off. But the dam issue, the river issue, going to be watching that for several days.

[06:10:04] CUOMO: What is the deal with dams? How many breached? What does that mean? How do you recover from that? How do you fix it?

BECKER: Yes. All of the water that has been dumped on South Carolina in the last week or so has got to go somewhere. All of our rivers are full. Many of our dams were at their level or in danger of overtopping. So some of the larger federally regulated dams released water to ease pressure on the spillways and so forth.

So what we're looking at is the water making through -- its way through the water system, and that could mean more flooded areas along -- along river areas and small communities from Columbia to the coast.

CUOMO: Breached, therefore, can mean somewhat manipulated as a breach. You haven't had dams just completely blow out where you're going to have to wait and rebuild, have you?

BECKER: Right. We've had several actually fail. And we've also had dams that were intentionally breached to prevent a much larger incident and a much larger amount of water from escaping from that dam.

CUOMO: Now, we're getting some competing versions of what the assessments are of lethality here. There are some people saying, no, we got lucky. We know who's past and who made it through. And then there's another report that we don't know yet. We haven't been able to get to a lot of these areas. A lot of them are smaller and remote. There may be a whole new wave of findings in the days to come. Where are you?

BECKER: We're at -- actually on both sides of that. South Carolina Department of Public Safety has been able to confirm at least 11 fatalities that have been associated either with the weather, the severe weather storm or by the flooding.

But it's important to remember that we still have areas that rescue crews have not been able to access, because they've been able to determine that there is nobody living in those areas. So we could see that fatality count rise. We hope it doesn't. But we haven't been able to get into certain areas to conduct a full damage assessment.

CUOMO: What is your biggest concern right now?

BECKER: Our biggest concern is for people's safety, particularly in the areas that will be prone to heavier flooding in the coming days. We want people to heed the warnings. People who do not have any water, particularly in the Columbia area, we're trying to make that as available as we possibly can. So you're going to see more points of distribution as we call it for people to get water and certainly the emergency shelters that have been established, both for people and people with pets.

CUOMO: What is the biggest need and where can people go to give?

BECKER: Right now, the biggest need is for people to pay attention to the warnings. Right now, it's like we don't have a water supply issue. We have a water distribution issue. It's taken us a while to set up areas where people could get water where they wouldn't be put in harm's way coming to get it. If people want to find out ways so they can donate their time or volunteer, they can visit the Emergency Management Division website, SCEMD.org. The entire front page has been transformed into ways that people can prepare, start the recovery process and donate their time and efforts.

CUOMO: Mr. Becker, good luck with it going forward today and in the days to come. We will not forget about the story. You know you can come to us and let us know what the latest is.

BECKER: Thank you.

CUOMO: Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: There is a new twist this morning on that deadly airstrike on Doctors Without Borders hospital in the northern Afghan city of Kunduz. The commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan now says Afghan forces requested the bombing because they were under Taliban fire.

CNN's Nic Robertson is live in Kabul with all of the new developments. What have you learned, Nic?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So there were three investigations. Not only the U.S. military investigation, but there is also the investigation by the Afghan government, and NATO is also undertaking a more speedy investigation that should have some results within the next few days.

But that is still a concern for Doctors Without Borders. The fact, they say, that the general in charge of U.S. forces here has sort of had to backtrack on the earlier analysis that it was U.S. forces who were under direct fire. He says that is the reason that there needs to be an independent, impartial investigation.

But we've just heard from the Afghan health ministry here. And they say that doctors in health facilities across the country, nurses as well, medical staff, are worried now. They say they absolutely rely on the work of Doctors Without Borders and other nongovernmental organizations, health workers here. And they say at the moment, this is, for them, a very big concern.

And they also are adding their voice, too, saying that they want an independent, international investigation into what's going on.

But the facts on the ground are hard to ascertain. At the moment we understand that the area around the hospital is still too dangerous to get to for investigators. So although some headway being made, the major steps, the important steps, are yet to be covered on the ground there, Michaela.

PEREIRA: They're going to push for answers as best they can, given the circumstances of the danger there. Nic, thank you so much for that.

[06:15:06] Some shocking moments on board an American Airlines flight from Phoenix to Boston. The pilot died midflight of an apparent heart attack. His co-pilot made an emergency landing in Syracuse, New York, and was able to get medical assistance. Listen as he alerted air traffic control when Captain Michael Johnson first fell ill.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Medical emergency, captain is incapacitated. Request handling for runway one zero landing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The ambulance will meet you on the south de- ice pad.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right. Are they going to have a way to get into the airplane quickly or do we need to go to a gate?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They will have a way to get into the airplane quickly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Understood, as long as they have a way to get on the airplane quickly. We'll need them to get to the captain. Thank you.

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PEREIRA: Several of the 140 passengers on board said they had not realized the pilot had died until they were transferred to another flight.

CUOMO: Scandal time. A very real one in the world of fantasy sports. Allegations that employees of DraftKings and FanDuel used insider information to rake in huge winnings from bets on each other's sites.

CNN's Christina Alesci joins us now.

Do we believe it? And if so, what is going to happen?

CHRISTINA ALESCI, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Well, this is an excellent question, Chris. It's definitely going to be more -- more investigation is necessary. But one thing is for sure. These are the two biggest names in fantasy football.

What they allow users to do is basically put together their dream team of players and give users a chance to win prize money off of how those players actually perform.

Now, there's real money at stake. Both of these companies were on track to pay out $4 billion in winnings this year. We say this is just a silly game, right? But there's real money...

PEREIRA: Nothing silly about 4 billion.

ALESCI: Exactly. Three million users on the sites combine. And real big media companies like our own parent company, Time Warner, has invested in these companies. Time Warner put money into FanDuel.

Now, what happened was that DraftKings, the rival site, said an employee inadvertently leaked very secret...

PEREIRA: That's the one that rises our eyebrows. Inadvertently?

ALESCI: Yes, inadvertently leaked secret information. Now, the concern here is that anyone who had access to that secret information would have an unfair advantage in the way they pick their team.

Now, "The New York Times" reported that this employee also won a lot of money on the rival site. So the thought is that he used that information or at least "The Times" reporting seems to suggest that he used that information to make a team that was a winning team, not good for the industry.

Remember, this, again, is big money at stake. Twenty-eight out of the 32 NFL teams get sponsorship money from both companies. This, of course, raises the whole -- whole argument about how this is regulated, whether it's self-policed.

PEREIRA: But it isn't, right? It is not regulated.

ALESCI: It's self-policed.

PEREIRA: Self-policing on the Internet. That seems wise.

CUOMO: It's online. That's why.

ALESCI: And this gives some credence to those critics that say this comes dangerously close to online gambling.

CUOMO: Sure. CAMEROTA: Isn't it?

ALESCI: Actually, Congress specifically carved out fantasy sports when it made online gambling illegal.

CUOMO: I'm sure absent any lobbying or preferential treatment.

PEREIRA: We've got a couple of our sports experts coming up. We'll talk about it.

CAMEROTA: All right. A new campaign ad for Hillary Clinton slamming Republicans for their Benghazi investigation. We will look at whether the fallout will affect the race for House speaker. That's next.

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[06:22:46] REP. KEVIN MCCARTHY (R), CALIFORNIA: We put together a Benghazi Special Committee. What are her numbers today?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Republicans have spent millions attacking Hillary, because she's fighting for everything they oppose, from affordable health care to equal pay. She'll never stop fighting for you, and the Republicans know it.

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CUOMO: A turnabout in play, Hillary Clinton on offense when it comes to Benghazi. That new ad you just saw says these investigations essentially aren't about truth but scoring political points. And she shines a light on House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and fellow Republicans. The question is what fruit will this bear?

To discuss, CNN senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny in Davenport, Iowa, on the Clinton campaign trail; and Errol Lewis, CNN political commentator and political anchor for New York One.

Mr. Zeleny, we know that their camp is very excited about this. Do you believe Benghazi could be something to play to advantage for Hillary Clinton?

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Well, Chris, it's hard to know if it would play to her advantage, but it certainly is a turning point for the Clinton campaign.

After months and months of these e-mails and this controversy dogging the campaign, finally, Secretary Clinton is able to use the Republican Party's -- Republican leaders' own words against them to show what she believes is a completely political matter here.

Of course, it doesn't change the fact that we've learned so much about this e-mail. It doesn't change the fact that so many voters have wondered why she set up this private e-mail system which, of course, was first discovered by this Benghazi committee. But it does soften the moment of her testimony.

Remember she's still going to testify before that committee on October 22 in Washington. So it definitely puts that in now a new light. She would like to say in a political light.

CAMEROTA: Yes, so Errol, the campaign, her campaign, just considers this a gift served up by Kevin McCarthy, his gaffe. And in fact, the Democrats on the Benghazi committee have sent a letter to chairman Trey Gowdy, saying they will now exploit this, despite claims that the committee would be run with integrity.

Republicans have engaged in a series of selective leaks of inaccurate and incomplete information in an effort to attack Secretary Clinton with unsubstantiated, debunked allegations. They say they're threatening that they will now begin leaking some of the testimony. So this is all interesting. The voters -- do voters -- does Benghazi resonate with voters?

[06:25:04] ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Not as such. But I think where Kevin McCarthy, in his introduction to the big show, right, I think he's going to discover that, in a polarized country, where the underlying politics are polarized, the political leadership is very much polarized. And in that environment, it does start to affect the public, in part because there's a lot of stuff that's just not getting done.

So I mean, there will be a reaction from the public but then, you know, let's keep in mind. Each of these representatives, even the most polarizing ones, even the most ideological ones, they were elected by people who wanted them to go to Washington and do certain things.

And they -- we're just not past -- we're not past the '90s. We're not past the 2000s on many, many key issues. We've got this 52- 48 split on lots and lots of issues. So this is Hillary Clinton's home base. She thrives in this. She's ready for it. Her team knows exactly how to react to it. It's going to be a very tough season to get through, I think, both in Congress and on the presidential campaign trail, but here we go.

CUOMO: You want to also be able to define the issues that hurt you in politics. And they've given her an opportunity to do this. The proof of performance will be what happens when she testifies.

But obviously, she's putting this out now for a reason. You've got the big debate coming up. How do you see Hillary and Bernie, because they're going to be the two main, you know, the focus of that debate, heading into that debate? What do you think they need to achieve?

LOUIS: Well, I think what Hillary needs to achieve is to sort of make sure that she's the adult in the room. Because let's keep in mind: There are these other people who are going to be on the stage. There's going to be Martin O'Malley. They're going to be throwing wild cards; they're going to be throwing haymakers. They're going to be trying to get into the debate, trying to rattle Clinton, trying to sort of get her to sort of react.

So she's got to be the adult. At the same time, she's got to continue this process that she's been doing very slowly. Kind of walking away from the Obama administration on -- very carefully on selected issues. Arctic drilling. The Transpacific partnership. She's been sort of trying to redefine Obamacare or her position on it with regard to the Cadillac tax. She's got to do that very gingerly, very carefully but in a very pronounced way. And look like the reasonable alternative to Bernie Sanders, who's going to be out there sort of throwing red meat to the Democratic base.

CAMEROTA: Jeff, there was an interesting contrast on the campaign trail yesterday. Hillary Clinton was in New Hampshire. She was talking about gun control, whereas Bernie Sanders was tweeting out his thoughts on the transpacific partnership.

But let me play for you the emotional moment of Hillary Clinton talking about her plan for stopping school shootings.

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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So many of the parents of these precious children who were murdered have taken the unimaginable grief that they have been bearing and have tried to be the voices that we need to hear.

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CAMEROTA: Jeff, how do you think that that issue plays?

ZELENY: There's no question that that moment yesterday in New Hampshire was a very real and raw moment. The school shootings have happened again and again and again. We've heard politicians react to them, of course.

She also came out with a fairly substantial gun proposal yesterday, saying that the people who sell these guns should also bear significant responsibility.

But look, that is a real emotional moment for her. Let's set politics aside for a second. She was standing next to a mother of one of the Newtown shooting victims. I mean, this is -- brings this home to us more than anything.

But the question is, what can the next president do about this if Congress is unwilling to do it? President Obama, of course, also stood with families of Newtown victims. Newtown victims were lobbying the Senate, the House, and that bill did not pass in, you know, just a few months after that shooting here. So she'll be talking more and more about guns.

And it is an issue she believes is a contrast with Bernie Sanders. He has a higher rating from the NRA. He's from Vermont, a state where a lot of people own guns. He, of course, has come out with gun proposals, as well. But she will draw this as a distinction next week at the debate. CUOMO: He also asked the question a lot of people don't want to

ask. But you have to, even in the cold light of reason. Which is what law would have made Oregon not happen? What law would have made any of these not happen, these school mass shootings? And it gives you a different lens.

But Jeff, appreciate it very much.

Errol, as always.

CAMEROTA: Thanks so much.

We're just one week away from the first Democratic debate hosted by CNN and Facebook. Be sure to tune in October 13 at 9 p.m. Eastern right here on CNN. Do you have a question that you would like asked during the Democratic debate? If so, head on over to CNN's Facebook page or record a short video for Instagram using the hashtag #demdebate.

CUOMO: So how about this one. This is provocative. Why are people talking about Donald J. Trump getting out of the race? He's the frontrunner. He's leading in all the polls, and yet that is the scuttlebutt. We will ask him. The one and only Donald J. Trump is on NEW DAY this morning. We'll ask him about himself but also about Syria. Does he have a different feel about that issue now, in light of new facts.

And Marco Rubio, did he really send him a gag gift? We have his answers, ahead -- Mick.

PEREIRA: All right. We turn to Oregon...