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TV Star John Stamos Busted for DUI/Mom Runs Over Dad After Violent Altercation ; Judge Throws Sobbing Victim to Jail; Schoolgirl Leaps from Moving Car; Florida Baby Boy Missing; Aired 8-9p ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news, TV and movie star heartthrob, the star of "Full House," "ER," "General Hospital," big screen hit "Party Monster"

and "My Best Friend`s Wife" -- bombshell now, John Stamos busted driving DUI.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Beverly Hills Police Department has acknowledged that Hollywood television star John Stamos has been arrested for DUI. At

first, officers believed he might have been suffering from a medical condition, so Stamos was transported to a local hospital. But once there,

he was ultimately issued a citation for driving under the influence.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: And live, Ohio. A 2nd grade teacher, mom of two, mows down her husband in the family car as her two little girls scream in the back seat.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... arrested for running over her husband with her two daughters in the car. Police were called by the couple`s 12-year-old

daughter. Daniel Luke (ph) was killed outside the family`s home. A 911 call reveals the father was allegedly attacking the mother.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: And to Florida. Outrage as a female judge berates and attacks a sobbing mother, a domestic abuse victim beaten and held at knifepoint.

Then the judge throws the victim behind bars. Oh, yes, you heard me. The judge throws the victim behind bars.

Judge Jerri Collins, can you say recall? You`ve got to be thrown off the bench, lady! Can you hear me, Jeb Bush? You put her on the bench, now you

get her off!

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why didn`t you show up to court?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m just -- my anxiety, and I`m just...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You think you`re going to have anxiety now? You haven`t even seen anxiety. And violating court order did not do anything

for you. I hereby find you in contempt of court. I sentence you to three days in the county jail!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Live, Bridgeport, caught on video, a schoolgirl leaps from a moving car to try and save her own life after she`s lured into a charcoal-gray

Toyota. Tonight, the kidnapper still at large, on the run.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A 17-year-old girl bails out of a vehicle in a desperate effort to escape her abductor. It all began moments earlier when

the driver of the car lured the teen into her vehicle. The video shows a gray Toyota sedan driving down Boston Avenue with the passenger door open.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: And live, Sarasota. A 9-week-old infant, baby boy Chance (ph), goes missing. But tonight, both parents keep changing their story!

Hello. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.

Bombshell now. TV and movie star, heartthrob, the star of "Full House," "ER," "General Hospital," the big screen hit "Party Monster" and "My Best

Friend`s Wife" -- bombshell now, John Stamos busted for driving DUI.

Straight out to Alan Duke, editor-in-chief, Leadstories.com. Alan, what happened?

ALAN DUKE, LEADSTORIES.COM: He was driving in Beverly Hills at about 7:45 on a Friday night in June, and several people saw that he was driving

erratically. So they got on their cell phones. They called 911. It takes just a moment for Beverly Hills cops to track him down. They pull him

over, and he`s so messed up, they take him to the hospital to have him checked out.

GRACE: Everybody, you`re seeing John Stamos on "Full House" from Warner Bros. TV. This is where the Olson twins shot to stardom, both of them

playing the same little girl in "Full House."

Take a look at John Stamos, everybody. Apparently, multiple calls come into police that a driver is driving erratically in their neighborhood.

They get there, and it`s John Stamos.

OK, Alexis Tereszcuk, senior reporter, Radaronline.com. Alexis Tereszcuk, what about reports he was not DUI with alcohol, but GHB, gamma-

Hydroxybutyrate, the date rape drug?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE.COM: That`s exactly right, Nancy. That`s what the reports are saying, that he was under the influence of that drug.

He was taking it -- he -- the sources say that he was taking it for a movie role and to slim down. He certainly was -- had not been drugged himself.

It was something that he had reportedly was doing on his own. It wasn`t that somebody slipped him that in a drink or anything like that.

GRACE: Now, we have not been able to confirm GHB, gamma-Hydroxybutyrate, the date rape drug.

[20:05:04]Alexis Tereszcuk, I just heard you say, Radaronline.com -- what were you saying at the end about a drink?

TERESZCUK: Well, a lot of times, the date rape drug is used, people will slip it into a victim`s drink, and they won`t know that they`ve taken it.

But what has been reported is that he actually was taking it on his own. He was using it to slim down for a movie role.

GRACE: OK. Hold on just a moment. I don`t quite understand that. Slim down? Alan Duke, Leadstories.com, what do you mean, GHB to slim down for a

movie role?

DUKE: I`ve never heard that. I just stop drinking beer if I want to lose a little bit of weight. But he had "Fuller House" coming up and his new

series, "Grandfathered," that he had to look for it. And he`s what, 52 years old. So if that was his diet plan, it`s a new one on me.

GRACE: OK, you know what? You may sling around 52 years old, Alan Duke. But if this guy is 52 years old, he is aging like a fine wine.

Here`s Stamos on his brand-new show on Fox, "Grandfathered."

OK, Stamos, huge, big star. Sheryl McCollum, former director, MADD Georgia and Cold Case Institute. Sheryl, thank you for being with us. Gamma-

Hydroxybutyrate -- I`ve only ever associated that with GHB -- "Georgia Home Boy" -- the date rape drug. What does that have to do with slimming down?

What is that?

SHERYL MCCOLLUM, FMR. DIR., MADD GEORGIA (via telephone): Nancy, some people do (INAUDIBLE) to slim down. They might take it to increase their

muscle mass. Body builders may use it.

The issue (INAUDIBLE) with John Stamos, somebody of his stature in the industry -- he also has the side effect of amnesia. You don`t know where

you are. You`re not going to be able to articulate what might happen to you. The fact that he may have willingly taken something that would have

rendered him helpless is astonishing to me.

GRACE: Well, we don`t know if it was gamma-Hydroxybutyrate, the date rape drug, that he was high on. We don`t know if he ingested it of his own

volition. But we do know that he was arrested by police, driving erratically after multiple people called in saying, Some guy`s driving in

crazy in our neighborhood. They show up. It`s Stamos alone in his car.

Alan Duke, editor-in-chief, Leadstories.com -- also, he has gone on the record about going to rehab immediately after this incident. Is that the

correct timing, Alan?

DUKE: Yes. If you want to get out of a charge in Los Angeles of drunk driving or DUI, you want to go to rehab as soon as possible. I think the

lawyers advise that. So he went in July, got out after a month. So this should help him when there`s a plea deal coming up.

GRACE: Because he went to rehab? Is that what you`re saying?

DUKE: Yes, because, you see, they don`t put people -- think Lindsay Lohan. We`ve been through this so many times, dozens of times with her. Yes. So

he`ll get a lawyer...

GRACE: OK.

-- DUKE: ... just like Lindsay did. They`ll go to the prosecutor and they`ll get a deal where he`ll avoid any real punishment, other than a

couple years probation and...

GRACE: You know, Alan Duke -- put him up, please! Let me see Alan Duke. I don`t know why you`re being so hard on Stamos. True, he was DUI. And I

don`t like that, all right, number one. But to throw him in the pot to stew -- in the same pot with Lindsay Lohan...

DUKE: He`s not there. That`s true.

GRACE: ... who has been in and out, cocaine, driving offenses, you name it. This is a far cry from being a repeat offender like her. You know, I

don`t know what your grudge match is with John Stamos...

DUKE: I don`t.

GRACE: ... I`m only concerned that he`s driving erratically in a neighborhood full of kids. That`s my concern.

DUKE: He...

GRACE: And this whole GHB question. What?

DUKE: He`s going to be...

GRACE: He what?

DUKE: ... in the same courthouse where Lindsay -- they let Lindsay off the hook so many times.

GRACE: Back on Lindsay Lohan again!

DUKE: That`s my feeling (ph).

GRACE: OK, you know, Michael Christian...

DUKE: I love John!

GRACE: Michael Christian, let me go to you on this.

For those of you just joining us, Hollywood heartthrob John Stamos busted, DUI.

Let`s get down to the bottom of it. Michael Christian, what was the diagnosis? Was it Cedars Sinai that he went to?

MICHAEL CHRISTIAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER (via telephone): Yes. That`s what reports say, Nancy. They took him there -- as we heard before.

originally, he was taken because they thought there might be something medically wrong with him. But he was only at Cedars Sinai for a short

period before they realized it was some sort of intoxication. And at that point, he received a citation for DUI.

GRACE: So Vincent Hill -- everybody, you`re seeing "Full House." There`s one of the Olson twins when they were cute and little.

Vincent Hill, former cop, private investigator, author of "Playbook to a Murder: Incomplete Pass." So he goes to the hospital, like all the stars

do when they get busted. He goes to the hospital, and their medical prognosis is he`s really, really drunk?

VINCENT HILL, FORMER POLICE OFFICER: Yes, that`s it, Nancy. In my experience, you know, celebrity or not, if you`re acting a certain way

during a traffic stop and there`s belief that you may be intoxicated, standard procedure is to go the hospital to either take blood, give a

breath test or whatever.

[20:10:12]But you know, DUI is a very serious offense. You know, although it`s John Stamos, you know, he was driving erratic. And the one thing

about DUI, the only person that doesn`t realize they`re DUI is usually the person that is actually DUI himself. So...

GRACE: To Sheryl McCollum, former director of MADD Georgia. Sheryl, tell me a little bit more about GHB, gamma-Hydroxybutyrate.

You were just seeing Stamos on his brand-new show, "Grandfathered." So just as a sitcom airs, goes to air, Stamos busted, DUI, questions arising

whether it was alcohol at all or GHB.

How do you ingest it? I know it`s slipped into drinks of women all the time. They have no idea what happened. They wake up without their

underwear on. But how would it be ingested if you`re trying to tone your muscles or slim down?

MCCOLLUM: Oftentimes, it is connected to alcohol, even if you`re trying to slim down. But it`s liquid. It`s odorless, it`s colorless, it`s

tasteless. Sometimes it might make your drink taste a little bit like soap or a little salty. But the victims usually are completely unaware of it.

If it is deliberate, again, you put it in whatever drink you want to put it in and you ingest it orally.

GRACE: Everybody, this has not been confirmed yet, just questions swirling, was it GHB? We have confirmed he was arrested on DUI. His first

court date was moved. He`s set to be arraigned in a couple of days.

Unleash the lawyers, Randy Kessler, defense attorney out of Atlanta, and Diana Eisman (ph), defense attorney out of LA.

Kessler, you`ve handled a lot of high-profile cases, celebrities in trouble. Is this the playbook, the SOP, standard operating procedure, you

go to the hospital instead of the jail, and then you go rehab and then you get a straight probation plea or pre-trial intervention where, it`s like

nothing ever happened?

RANDY KESSLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, you know, if you have a high- profile person has the kind of money like that, they should do everything they can to fix themselves. You know, you`ve got so many people that don`t

have the resources.

If he`s got the money and he can get himself into rehab and say, Look, I`m going to take care of this. You don`t need to spend the state`s money

putting me in jail, sending me to a state institution. I`ll do what I can to fix myself," that`s what we want That`s what we encourage. And

hopefully, that`s what the prosecutor and the judge recognizes.

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[20:17:06]GRACE: Live, Ohio, a 2nd grade teacher, mom of two, mows down her husband in the family car as her two little girls scream in the back

seat.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A domestic dispute that carried over into the driveway, a 2nd grade Ohio teacher who was arrested for running over her husband. A

911 call reveals the father was allegedly attacking the mother.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: The children in the back seat, the two little girls, actually see their father die before their very eyes when Mommy mows him down in the

family car.

I`m going to play you now the 911 call. It is made by one of the two little girls. It`s very disturbing, but you have to hear this to

understand the way this case is playing out. Listen.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: 911, where is your emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My dad`s being really mean to my Mommy!

911 OPERATOR: What`s he doing?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) he`s really being mean to my mom, he`s hitting her to the ground and he won`t leave her alone! And he`s yelling

at her!

911 OPERATOR: OK, so he`s physically hurting your mom?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He`s pinning her to my bed, and he`s making marks on my mom. And he`s, like -- and he`s not letting her through or anything!

911 OPERATOR: OK. Do you know what they`re fighting about?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everything! Get off my mother!

911 OPERATOR: OK. Can you...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My dad is choking my mom! Get off!

(END AUDIO CLIP)

GRACE: Extremely disturbing 911 call I just played for you. And now I`m going to tell you why. Apparently, these two little girls witnessed Mommy

being abused horribly in the home. Now, as we all know, revenge is never a defense under the law. So if Mommy mowed him down out of revenge for

abuse, that`s not going to work. But what if she mowed him down in self- defense? Listen to this.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my God!

911 OPERATOR: What`s going on? What happened?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my God! She`s on the ground!

911 OPERATOR: Who`s on the ground? Can tell me what happened, honey?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s down on the ground!

911 OPERATOR: Who`s on the ground?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My mother!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What happened to her?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My dad and my mom (INAUDIBLE) He`s hurting me! He`s hurting me now!

(END AUDIO CLIP)

GRACE: When I hear that call, I remember all the 911 calls I played for juries as a felony prosecutor, calls I didn`t want to play, and I didn`t

want to hear again, but I had to play for the jury so they would understand what was happening.

[20:20:15]You know, to play this call for you was a decision that was made because it`s not a pretty call. It`s not anything you want to hear.

And that is why domestic abuse is swept under the rug. It`s an embarrassment. The mother`s embarrassed. The children are embarrassed.

That`s not right! They shouldn`t be the ones embarrassed. He should be the one that`s embarrassed.

To Spencer Romaquillo, breaking news reporter with "The Lancaster Eagle- Gazette." Spencer, thank you for being with us. What happened when the mom -- the teacher, I think of about 12 years, a mother of two -- mowed

down her husband in the family SUV? What happened? Where were they?

SPENCER ROMAQUILLO, "LANCASTER EAGLE GAZETTE" (via telephone): They were in the driveway of their home.

GRACE: And what took place just before she ran over him?

ROMAQUILLO: They were in some kind of a domestic dispute for a certain amount of time before their 12-year-old daughter actually called 911. That

17-minute call -- that`s how long it is in its entirety, it takes about 17 minutes for this all to play out on 911.

GRACE: With me is Spencer Romaquillo, joining us from Lancaster, Ohio. Also with me now, a very special guest. It`s the sheriff, Sheriff Dave

Phalen from the Fairfield County sheriff`s office.

Sheriff, thank you so much for being with us. You know, we were told we shouldn`t play the 911 call, and we fought that because the more you hide

domestic abuse, the more you don`t talk about it, the more you allow it to be shrouded as a domestic -- a family issue, the more women that are going

to get killed.

When she ran over him, Angela Luke, a wife and mother, a school teacher of 12 years, what was he doing, Sheriff, to your understanding at the time he

was run over?

SHERIFF DAVE PHALEN, FAIRFIELD CO. (via telephone): Well, you know, one thing we do know at this time is, as you mentioned, domestic violence calls

are a tragedy. And we have a disproportionate of calls every week in to the sheriff`s office where we have domestic call victims.

And since the -- it`s still under investigation, you know, I`m limited on how much I can say. I will say when you hear that call, it`s troubling on

a lot of levels. And it`s certainly traumatic when you think of a 12-year- old and 9-year-old had to go through that. And certainly, our prayers and heart goes out to the entire family. It`s a tragedy on a lot of different

levels.

GRACE: I want to go out to Matt Zarrell. Matt, what can you tell me about the evidence in the home?

MATT ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER (via telephone): Well, OK, so inside the home, the reports are that police removed a piece of a bed sheet that

contains suspected blood from the master bedroom, a suspected bloody piece of a bed sheet in one of the children`s bedrooms, cell phones. They also

towed the car away, as well.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

[20:27:14]UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A 2nd grade Ohio teacher was arrested for running over her husband during a domestic dispute that carried over into

the driveway. Daniel Luke was killed with her two daughters in the car.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Welcome back. A mom now facing charges, but when you hear this 911 call -- at first, she`s arrested after she mows down her husband. Her two

children sitting in the car see their father die. But listen to this 911 call.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) On the ground!

911 OPERATOR: Your mother has broke her arm?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) Hurry, please. Can you please hurry? Please hurry! My dad broke my mom`s arm! She`s bleeding really bad!

(INAUDIBLE) and I think she broke her arm. She`s hurting really bad!

Get away from me! Get away from me! No! No! They`re coming for you! They`re all coming for you!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The police and everything! You`re -- you`re harassing her!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: To the elected sheriff joining us, Sheriff Dave Phalen. Sheriff, again, thank you for being with us. I`m trying to understand the scenario

as it played out. According to the two little girls` 911 call, the father, the dead victim, was beating the mother, mercilessly. He came at one of

the little girls.

But at the time he was run over, were they -- they had to be outside, at least in the garage, but the beating was taking place inside? Where was he

just before he was mowed over?

PHALEN: Well, it`s -- it`s under investigation. And probably at this point, it would be inappropriate...

GRACE: OK.

PHALEN: ... to kind of go through what witness statements are, what the forensic evidence shows...

GRACE: You know what, Sheriff? You`re absolutely right.

PHALEN: ... those kind of things.

GRACE: I understand. So we don`t want a problem later on of some kind of appeal. You`re right, Sheriff Phalen, absolutely right.

Matt Zarrell, fill in the blanks for me.

ZARRELL: Yes. So the mother has told police that was having this altercation with the husband and she tired to get her and the kids out of

the house.

So they were trying to leave, but the husband would not let them go. They finally get into the car, and the mother says that the husband is holding

onto her car while she`s driving away. She then hears a thump and got out of the vehicle to find the husband lying on the ground, bleeding from his

head. The 12-year-old also told 911 that her father was holding onto the window and he fell right off.

GRACE: Joining me right now is Jashlene Gonzalez, from "America`s Next Top Model," the winner in season eight, and domestic abuse survivor.

[20:30:04] You know, what I went through to get ahold of that 911 call and play it. As long as people turn away from the evidence and they don`t want

to hear it, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. As long as we turn away from it, it`s going to remain shrouded in mystery. And that`s not

right.

JASLENE GONZALEZ, DOMESTIC ABUSE SURVIVOR: I agree, Nancy. I`m still trying to catch my breath after hearing that conversation with the

daughter. Obviously, the severity and how threatening that situation was, speaks volumes. I am for speaking about domestic violence and just

investigating, finding out the evidence and dealing with it accordingly.

GRACE: The truth.

GONZALEZ: Exactly. It`s all about the truth.

GRACE: Not only are you, Jaslene, the winner of "America`s Next Top Model," that`s a difficult feat, but you are a domestic abuse survivor of

horrific domestic abuse. When you heard this 911 call, what did that do to you? Because I don`t think these girls will ever get over what their

father put them through.

GONZALEZ: Well, it definitely took me back to my situation. However, I didn`t have anyone call for help for me. I had to deal with my own

situation. And a lot of domestic violence survivors have -- there`s a lack of support and help. I just couldn`t -- I couldn`t imagine these girls

going through this situation. I mean, it`s very difficult to hear this girl screaming for her mother`s life.

GRACE: Thank God the charges against Angela have been dropped.

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[20:36:22] GRACE: Now to Florida. Outrage as a female judge berates and attacks a sobbing mother. A domestic abuse victim. The victim beaten and

held at knifepoint by her husband, and then the judge throws the victim behind bars.

Yes, you heard me right. This judge throws the female victim behind bars.

Judge Jerri Collins, can you say recall? Did they teach you that in law school? Because you`ve got to be thrown off the bench, lady. Can you hear

us, Jeb Bush? You put this woman on the bench, now you get her off.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Judge, I`ll do anything. Please, please.

JUDGE JERRI COLLINS, SEMINOLE COUNTY, FLORIDA: You should have showed up and -- you should have showed up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have a 1-year-old son and I`m trying to take care of him by myself. I`m begging you, please, please.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: I can hardly stand to listen to it. Having worked at the Battered Women`s Center on the hotline for 10 years to know what these women go

through and to then have the judge, Judge Jerri Collins, for all of you in Seminole County, Florida, berate her the way she did, I want you to hear

it. The whole thing. Roll it, Liz.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

COLLINS: You need to tell the court why I should not hold you in contempt of court and I can sentence you to jail. So tell me why.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Your honor, I`m very sorry for not attending classes. I just -- I`ve been dealing with depression and I just fell off personally

since this happened. And I just -- my anxiety is like -- this is every day for me. It was like, we are trying to separate and it`s like just -- it`s

just things were, I don`t know -- I just --

COLLINS: Why didn`t you show up to court?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just my anxiety and I`m just --

COLLINS: You think you`re going to have anxiety now? You haven`t even seen anxiety.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Like I`m just -- I`m just not in a -- I`m not in a good place right now.

COLLINS: I hereby find you in contempt of court. I sentence you to three days in the county jail. Turn around.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Judge, I`ll do anything. Please, please.

COLLINS: You should have showed up. You should have showed up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have a 1-year-old son, and I`m trying to take care of him by myself. I`m begging you, please, please, don`t.

COLLINS: I`ve already issued the order.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`ve moved out. I`ve tried to move on with my life. And then I filed for child support last June. And it took them an entire

year to find him. I don`t understand why. And May 1st, I was supposed to be getting my child support, so I can go get an apartment and go get a job

and everything. And when he lost -- when he was in -- when he went to jail for two weeks, he lost his job, he lost everything. And I -- I`m, like,

homeless now. I`m living at my parents` house. Everything has been shut off. Everything I own, like -- I`m just -- I`m just not in a -- I`m not in

a good place right now.

COLLINS: Anxiety --

(END VIDEO CLIP)

[20:40:13] GRACE: Out to Ray Caputo with WDBO. Ray, thank you for being with us. So --

RAY CAPUTO, WDBO: Sure.

GRACE: Explain to me why the judge says it`s her only alternative to throw this woman behind bars. I mean, the man, the husband, the father of her 1-

year-old child -- she`s homeless now, by the way. He got sentenced. So why does she have to throw the victim behind bars?

CAPUTO: Well, you know, the thing is, it wasn`t her only alternative and that`s where a lot of this outrage is coming from. She could have handed

her a harsher -- a less harsher sentence like a community service or a fine so it left a lot of people scratching her head why she decided to throw

this mom in jail for three days. And you can clearly see to the video, you know, how upset she is.

GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. Randy Kessler, Atlanta. Diana Aizman, in L.A.

OK, first to you, Kessler, the judge made a big point, if you heard the whole thing. We had a jury. Well, you want to tell me, Kessler, you`ve

tried cases, there`s probably 150, 250 people on that trial calendar, you`ve got a jury, great. Let them try another case. Why does this woman

have to go to jail? And forget about community service and a fine. She has a record. She has a criminal record now. Because of this judge. Help

me.

RANDY KESSLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, it`s a holding of contempt. So I don`t know if it`s a criminal record. It`s not like being, you know,

convicted of a felony. But this judge obviously she`s -- what she did is legally defensible. It may not be morally defensible. But she needs her

witnesses to show up in court. And for some reason the judge is making an example out of this woman. We don`t know the whole story, we don`t know

what`s going on in this judge`s life.

GRACE: I think we do know. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Hold on. Put him back up. Did you say we don`t know what`s going on in the judge`s life?

That is irrelevant.

KESSLER: It should be irrelevant.

GRACE: To what`s happening in court. What, she had a bad day? Is that what you`re saying, Diana?

KESSLER: Nancy, we`ve all -- we`ve all had bad days.

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: That`s not a defense.

DIANA AIZMAN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: We have no idea what happened in this case throughout the life of a kid.

GRACE: Yes, we do.

AIZMAN: We don`t know if this is not -- we don`t. We don`t know if this is the first time she violated a court order.

GRACE: No. We do. We do know.

AIZMAN: She may have been ordered to return to court on a different appearance and did not come back.

GRACE: No. She hasn`t. No. We do know. Because we have researched it.

AIZMAN: Here`s the situation. Whenever you`re ordered to return to court by a bench officer, you are under obligation to do so. She violated the

law by not coming back to court. Was the sentence inappropriate? Probably. Was it illegal? Absolutely not.

GRACE: OK. Let`s deal with the facts as we know them.

Ray Caputo, WDBO, isn`t it that true that this woman that has now been thrown into court by Judge Jerri Collins told her victim advocate, I am not

going to testify against the father of my child. All right? It took me this long, a year, to get child support out of him. He held a knife to me.

I don`t want to do this. I`m afraid. I`m not going to testify.

They knew that before they got this jury. There were 150 more cases they could have tried. But this judge, right there, went off on her for no

reason.

CAPUTO: That is correct. They did know about that. And the judge was clearly upset that the state`s case against the mom fell apart, too. And,

you know, in her defense, though, and I`m just as outraged by this, but to see it from her perspective, it`s a common problem with domestic violence

cases where victims who often know their attackers will refuse to testify so then charges are dropped and dismissed and these attackers sometimes go

on to do it again and the cycle does continue.

GRACE: OK, hold on. Jaslene Gonzalez, you know, I can`t help that I was exposed to domestic violence for so long. You were exposed. That wasn`t

our choices, all right. But it happened. When people talk about punishing women that don`t come forward, they don`t get it. They don`t get that the

woman is afraid the man is going to come back and beat her dead, beat the child, kill her. That TRO won`t mean anything. They`ll end up dead. Why

can`t people understand that?

GONZALEZ: That`s -- there is a very big misconception about domestic violence victims. And what it is, is that they think the victim is

responsible for creating the violence and provoking the abuser. But that is not true. No one is asking for abuse. Nobody wants to be abused. It

should never be like that.

The abuser, if he feels provoked, then he should leave the situation or leave the relationship. That`s how it should be dealt with.

GRACE: And another say, Caputo, the case did not fall apart. The perp was sentenced. He got convicted on simple battery, all right? So the case

didn`t fall apart.

[20:45:07] She was just PO`d because somebody didn`t do what she said. And I want to remind you, lawyers, lady justice is blind and she is holding a

shield and a sword. A sword to protect victims of crime.

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GRACE: Live to Bridgeport, caught on video. A school girl leaps from a moving car to try and save her own life after she is lured into a charcoal

gray Toyota. Tonight, the kidnapper still at large, on the run.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s just so devastating.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Police say it all began moments earlier when the driver of the car lured the teen into her vehicle.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is missing its rear bumper, so the white Styrofoam is showing.

[20:50:03] UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Look again as police say the teen puts her own life in danger by rolling out of the car in an attempt to get free.

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GRACE: To Frank Moreno, talk show host on AM 970 -- Frank, the girl leaps, the schoolgirl leaps from a moving car to save her own life. How was she

lured into the car to start with, Frank?

FRANK MORENO, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST, AM 970: Well, this is really I think that act of both heroism and desperation shows you what a dire situation

she was. I mean, based on the surveillance video, this driver, who is a female lured this teenage girl and coaxed her into this Toyota Yaris. And

it`s very, very incredible that she was able to -- after bailing out that way, able to not withstand any serious injury.

GRACE: To Marc Klaas, president and founder, KlaasKids Foundation, how can we identify the car by taillights, make, model, year? What do you think?

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Well, that`s what you do. I mean, they`ve got very clear descriptions. They know that the

bumper fell off for one thing. They know what kind of a vehicle it is. All they need then is a partial license plate number and they can go

through all of the DMV reference.

GRACE: Marc Klaas --

KLAAS: And find anybody in that vicinity who might have such car.

GRACE: Why is time so critical in kidnap cases, Marc Klaas?

KLAAS: Well, time is very critical because 74 percent of all kids that are murdered are the result of an abduction or dead within the first three

hours. There is no time to waste.

But, Nancy, there is something I really think needs to be said here. Did you know that 1/3 of all attempted abductions of children in the United

States occur on school routes? Either going to school or coming home from school. That`s an enormous statistic.

GRACE: "CNN HEROES."

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: I`m Anderson Cooper. All year we`ve been introducing you to everyday people who are changing the world. We call

them CNN HEROES. Well, now we announce the top 10 CNN Heroes for 2015. In random order the honorees are --

Bhagwati Agrawal helped create a rainwater harvesting system that provides water to drought stricken villages in his native India. Dr. Jim Withers,

he takes medicine to the streets of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, bringing free health care to the city`s homeless. Monique Pool is protecting sloths in

the South American country of Suriname. There she rescues, rehabilitates and returns these mammals back to the rain forest.

Richard Joyner is leading his rural community to better health by helping the youngest residents grow and distribute fresh food. Maggie Doyne, she

helps care for and educate needy kids in war-torn country of Nepal. Sean Gobin is former Marine found healing along the Appalachian trail. Now he

supports fellow combat veterans as they walk off the war.

Kim Carter. After overcoming homelessness and time in prison, she now helps other women in similar circumstances reclaim their lives. Rochelle

Ripley, keeping a promise she made to her Native American grandmother, her nonprofit has delivered $9 million in aid to the Lakota people. Jody

Farley-Berens her nonprofit gives financial and emotional support to single moms who are battling cancer. And Daniel Ivankovich, he`s a surgeon who

treats patients in Chicago`s troubled neighborhoods, whether or not they can pay.

Congratulations to the top 10 CNN heroes of 2015. Tell us who inspires you the most. Go to CNNheroes.com. Vote once a day every day to help decide

who is going to take home the top honor of CNN HERO of the Year and a $100,000 award.

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[20:57:53] GRACE: And live to Sarasota. A 9-week-old infant baby boy Chance missing. But tonight both parents keep changing their story as to

where the baby is.

To Dr. Panchali Dhar, joining us out of New York, what possible evidence can we get from the last place the baby was seen? We`ve been told there

was blood in the home. Don`t know whose blood it was.

DR. PANCHALI DHAR, M.D., INTERNAL MEDICINE: Well, you can actually check that blood and see if it matches up with the baby`s DNA and the mother`s

DNA. That will give evidence that it`s the baby`s blood. Other than that, it would be difficult to trace whose blood it is. Basically you have to do

DNA testing for both the parents and the child. So the child right now at nine week, helpless infant, needs to be clothed, bathed and fed constantly.

I don`t know how this baby could be alive.

GRACE: To Dr. Hillary Golsher, clinical psychologist joining us out of L.A. Dr. Hillary, thank you for being with us. What disturbs you the most

about this?

HILLARY GOLSHER, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, absolutely, Nancy, the inconsistencies in the parents` story. I mean, there is really no other

explanation for it other than something awful and nefarious happened with this child. It`s devastating.

GRACE: They`ve told people they gave the baby away. They`ve told people the baby died in a car crash. None of it bodes well.

Hillary Golsher, Dr. Panchali Dhar, thank you for being with us.

Let`s remember American hero Marine Lance Corporal Juana Navarro Arellano, 24, Ceres, California, Purple Heart, Global War on Terrorism medal.

Nicknamed Chica. Remembered always having a smile and willing to help out. Leaves behind two sisters and three brothers. Father Raul, mother Evelia.

Juana Navarro Arellano, American hero.

Thank you to all of our guests, but especially you for being with us and inviting us into your homes. Nancy Grace signing off. I`ll see you

tomorrow night 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friends.

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