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Bush Ad Ridicules Trump's Fitness to Lead; Clinton Slams GOP on Gun Control and Race; Larry David Impersonates Bernie Sanders; Deadly Shooting at Zombicon; Typhoon Roars on Shore. Aired 7-7:30a ET

Aired October 18, 2015 - 07:00   ET

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COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS: Is it Brandy Chastain's penalty kick in the women's World Cup? Let us know. #NewDayCNN. Hit us up on Twitter @newday and our Facebook page as well.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN HOST: I just know I'm a Buckeye. I could watch that again.

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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN HOST: Oh --

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PAUL: Thank you.

Thank you so much, Coy.

And thank you for starting your morning with us.

BLACKWELL: We have got much more ahead on the next hour of your NEW DAY. It starts right now.

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WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST: Who do you think, among the presidential candidates, would be the best qualified to make a deal with Iran?

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think Hillary would have --

Hillary's always --

BLACKWELL (voice-over): That Jeb Bush ad, striking back against Donald Trump, their feud escalating with both sides hammering away at their policies and reputations.

PAUL (voice-over): And the vice president is on the stage in New York. A lot of people wondering what is he going to say about his candidacy for president?

BLACKWELL: And breaking overnight, thousands run from shots fired overnight during Zombicon in Florida. People are yelling there this morning. Police are searching for the person who killed one and injured several others.

PAUL: Always so grateful for your company. Good morning, I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell.

PAUL: Yes.

Let's start with the 2016 race to the White House.

Getting dicey. You knew it was going to. Jeb Bush has thrown a new hard-hitting jab in his ongoing feud with Donald Trump. The former Florida governor mocking the billionaire's fitness to be commander in chief and writing in overnight tweet -- and I want to quote it here.

"Our national security isn't a reality TV show."

Now attached with that tweet, his attack ad against Trump. Take a look.

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CHUCK TODD, NBC NEWS HOST: What do you talk to for military plans right now?

TRUMP: Well, I watch the shows. I mean, I really see a lot of great -- you know, when you watch your show and all of the other shows --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And he has said publicly that he watches cable news and that is one of the ways that he bones up on our national security.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Trump says, he, quote, "always felt that I was in the military," despite never serving in the military and draft deferments during Vietnam.

TRUMP: There is nobody bigger or better at the military than I am.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump said Senator John McCain is not a war hero.

TRUMP: He is not a war hero. I like people that weren't captured. OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donald Trump doesn't like to be questioned on the issues.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump is weak on policy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you are running for the presidency of the United States of America, the most important title is commander in chief. They should have a working knowledge.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's no excuse for him not to be prepared for these questions. Donald Trump was not able to do that, so that should be concerning to voters.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump is causing a race toward the bottom.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's delusional. Mr. Trump did not have a firm grasp of what was really going on.

TRUMP: I will be so good at the military, your head will spin.

Let me tell you, I'm a really smart guy.

PAUL (voice-over): The latest jab in this rivalry comes after Trump suggested that Bush's brother, President George W. Bush, of course, shared in the blame for the 9/11 attacks.

The Trump campaign hasn't responded yet to the latest ad here.

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PAUL: Also in political news this morning, Vice President Joe Biden. Is he going to run? Is he going to jump into this race, is what a lot of people are wondering.

They were hoping that he was going to drop some sort of hint during this awards ceremony in New York City. The V.P. spoke about faith, spoke about religious freedom.

After his speech was done, it was the crowd who wanted to talk presidency. Listen to this.

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JOE BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: For so many of us, it is our faith that sees us through times of trouble. It is our faith that urges us to rise each and every morning, no matter how bleak things look, to put one foot in front of the other, as my son, Beau, used to say, just keep moving forward.

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BLACKWELL: You hear them there, "Run, Joe, run." Let's break down the latest in the 2016 race with Scottie Nell Hughes, news director for the Tea Party News Network and with Democratic strategist and CNN political commentator, Maria Cardona.

Ladies, good to have both of you.

SCOTTIE NELL HUGHES, TEA PARTY NEWS NETWORK: Good morning. Thank you for having me.

BLACKWELL: Maria, I want to start with you. The crowd last night, you heard them there, "Run, Joe, run."

But I want to talk about this new poll in New Hampshire, showing that half, 50 percent of the respondents say that Joe Biden should not run.

Is there enough support for the vice president's candidacy, potentially?

MARIA CARDONA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, that is actually nothing new, Victor. What I have heard from so many of my friends in the Democratic grassroots and, frankly, from reporters who have been chasing down this question, is that there really hasn't been a huge outcry from the grassroots, from the progressives, for Joe to run.

Now, that doesn't mean that there isn't, you know, this huge admiration for the vice president. There absolutely is. He is a beloved --

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CARDONA: -- figure in the Democratic Party. But that is very different from there being a space and there being a whole swath of Democratic voters that are waiting for him to jump in.

That's just not the case. It hasn't been the case for some time and I think that that is actually even closing more and more since the Democratic debate this past week, where folks see that Hillary Clinton had a banner night and Bernie Sanders did very well and, between the two of them, they enjoy more than three-fourths of support from Democrats.

But that doesn't really mean that that is going to be a big part of the vice president's calculation in terms of running.

If he feels like he has something to add to the race, then I think that is what he is going to base the decision on and whether he is going to be able to give it his heart, his soul, his mind, his everything, like he has said in the past. So we will see.

BLACKWELL: Scotty, I see your shaking your head here.

HUGHES: I do. It's not about him adding more to the race. You can't add any more than what the progressive candidates have done right now. It's more about October 22nd, when Hillary Clinton appears in front of the Benghazi committee and how she handles that and I think that is going to be much more important to her than the debate stage that she had last week and her performance.

Listen, we know she is a great speaker. She gets paid lots of money to be a good speaker. But when she actually gets drilled on questions on Benghazi I think that is going to be the final pin. I think all that's happening right now is you have got -- you literally have Joe Biden setting the grounds so that if Hillary flubs up during this Benghazi trial, that he can step right in and be the savior to the Democratic Party.

BLACKWELL: But what is the indication that this hearing will be different than the other hearings?

And there have been how many investigations now?

I just wonder, especially after the comments we have heard from the majority leader and Representative Hanna and that investigator, if will be more of a dud than some expect it will be.

HUGHES: But listen, one of the worst sound bites ever in political history is Hillary Clinton the last time going what does it matter in regards to the four lives that were lost that night. All it needs is one of those sound bites coming out from that trial, them getting to her and the fact that she gets upsets and shows her fluster and says something and I promise you that right there will do as just as much damage as the original sound bite.

That's why I think this is going to so big. It doesn't matter what the reasoning is, what has been said in the past, it comes down to that, actually how she handles that interview that day.

BLACKWELL: Let me play another sound bite I want to come to you right after that, Maria, let's listen to last night in Alabama.

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CLINTON: I didn't hear any real solutions from them about the problems that keep families up at night, how we are going to raise wages and create more good jobs for hard working people, how we are going to keep our community safe from gun violence, how we are going to send more young people to college and be able to have them afford it and not be drowning in debt, how we are going to get the cost of prescription drugs down, how we are going to deal with systemic racism and injustice, I didn't hear anything about any of those issues.

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BLACKWELL: Maria, first to you.

And a lot has been made about something she said during the debate when she was asked about her -- the enemy she is most proud of and she named Republicans.

CARDONA: So I wish she had said "some Republicans" and that way, you don't essentially condemn the whole party.

But she's not wrong. Clearly, Republicans have been going after her for most of her public life and that is a fact.

And frankly, the comments that were made very recently about the Benghazi committee, I think, really underscore the political nature and, frankly, the reason that they have been going after her, hasn't really been for them to try to find out what happened in Benghazi.

Like you said, Victor, there have been almost 10 investigations, many of them bipartisan, who have found that there was no wrongdoing, that there was no order to stand down, that there was no cover-up and so the American people are asking themselves, why are Republicans continuing to spend more than $4.5 million, taxpayer dollars in resources, on something that has already been investigated longer than Watergate, longer than Katrina, longer than many of the issues that we have faced as a country?

And so going into this hearing, yes, it will be a big deal and she will absolutely be prepared and she will probably school them yet again the way that she did the last couple times that she has been before the --

BALDWIN: Scottie --

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BLACKWELL: Scottie, hold on; let me get to you on this Trump-Bush back-and-forth now, this new ad that's released online from the Jeb Bush campaign, this attack, based on potentially his lack of, in their opinion, bona fides to lead the military, to be commander in chief.

Is this a strong argument for Jeb Bush, considering that, as an analyst reminded --

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BLACKWELL: -- us this morning, most Republican voters would choose Jeb Bush by a large margin over Jeb Bush (sic) -- excuse me -- Donald Trump, rather.

HUGHES: Well, I don't know about that one. I mean, Trump is still winning in all of the polls.

No, this is not the route that Jeb Bush needs to go down because all this has done since the initial 9/11 comments came up on Friday is remind people that 13 terrorists of the 9/11 attacks had driver's licenses or ID cards issued from Florida under Jeb Bush's governorship.

That is just reminding us. That reminds us that we have a weak border security that his brother, after the 9/11 attacks, for eight years, weakened our borders so much that I don't care if you were the Hamburglar, that anybody would have been elected with a Democratic name as long as they opposed what the Republicans had stood for, which was absolutely nothing at the end of the Bush era.

Luckily, the Democrats got a very good candidate in Barack Obama. So all this -- from Trump's perspective, bringing all of this up and bringing the military (INAUDIBLE) is very smart because either it's going to hurt Jeb Bush or it's going to hurt Clinton, which was the -- either way, the blame game goes between the two, not necessarily anything Trump does.

As for military experience, there is a reason why Veterans for Strong America has come out and endorsed Donald Trump. It's because he has talked about, time and time again, the 250,000 veterans that are on the death list right now, known as the V.A., 40,000 pink slips that are going to be handed out to the United States military over the next four years. And the border security that is causing this problem we have today,

majority of veterans and military today, since neither one of them have real military experience, I believe a line behind more Donald Trump than Jeb Bush.

BLACKWELL: All right. I got you.

Scottie Nell Hughes, Maria Cardona, good to have both of you.

CARDONA: Thanks so much, Victor.

BLACKWELL: And be sure to watch "STATE OF THE UNION" with Jake Tapper, set to be a big show, Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney all on the show. It starts later this morning, 9:00 am Eastern, right here on CNN.

PAUL: It is the impersonation that has everybody talking this morning. "Saturday Night Live" poking fun at the candidates from the first Democratic presidential debate and there was a surprise appearance by "Seinfeld" co-creator Larry David as Senator Bernie Sanders.

Take a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What does the e-mail scandal say about your ability to handle other crises as president?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, Coop, I welcome this question because I rehearsed this one the longest.

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LARRY DAVID, COMEDIAN: You know what? You know what? Can I just jump in here? This may not be great politics but I think the American people are sick and tired about hearing about your damn emails!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ha, ha, thank you!

DAVID: Oh.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you, Bernie.

God, it must be fun to scream and cuss in public.

I have to do all of mine in this tiny little jar.

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DAVID: Hey, what is the deal with e-mails anyway?

I forgot my password the other day, so they say we will e-mail you a new one. But I can't get into my e-mail without the password.

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PAUL: (INAUDIBLE).

The opening sketch of the CNN debate also included a guest appearance by Alec Baldwin and Jim Webb, by the way.

BLACKWELL: All right. We're following this breaking news out of Florida, Ft. Myers, to be specific. Police are searching for a suspect who opened fire at Zombicon. I will tell you what we're learning new about this shooting.

Plus: After days of deadly violence in the Middle East, between the Palestinians and Israelis, a pause for peace here.

Also more than 15,000 people evacuate as a typhoon roars onto shore in the Philippines. An update on the damage caused by this huge storm.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my god.

PAUL (voice-over): That chaos there, this is breaking news out of Florida and this is at a zombie themed festival. There was a shooting and the suspect in that shooting is still at large this morning. It's downtown Ft. Myers you're looking at here.

One person, police say, has died, one person who has shot. The witness who took this video, she says, as you can tell, she was on her hotel balcony when she heard shots and people started screaming and running. They were scattering everywhere.

Jason Carroll is following this for us.

Jason, what are you learning this morning?

JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, some people hiding there in corners as the shots rang out. Still no word on a motive for the shooting or who was responsible for it. All this happening at about 11:44 last night, Christi. That's when police there in Ft. Myers first got the calls.

This event attracts some 20,000 people. It was so crowded people were standing shoulder-to-shoulder when those shots rang out. The event has its own security but police were there as well. They were able to respond almost immediately.

When they got to the scene, one man had been shot, four others had been injured. We are told their injuries are not life-threatening.

You're looking at some of the video there immediately following the shooting. This event is all about taking pictures of costumes so you can imagine, Christi, a number of people who were there had their cell phones out. And actually one person who had their cell phone actually captured the sounds of the shots as they rang out.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, (INAUDIBLE).

Oh, oh, oh.

CARROLL (voice-over): I think I counted somewhere between five or six shots there, Christi. Violent crime detectives are working the scene.

The organizers have released a statement about everything that happened there at Zombicon.

Pushing Daisies Inc. released a statement saying that, "We are deeply saddened by the news of what happened within the footprint of our event. We take the safety of our patrons very seriously and take precautions in hiring security and police officers for our annual event.

"Our prayers go out to the family members and individuals involved in the incident."

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CARROLL: At this point, police are acting for the public's help in finding these suspect or suspects. They are asking anyone who might have any information to call the Ft. Myers Police Department -- Christi.

PAUL: All right, Jason Carroll, thank you so much. We appreciate it.

BLACKWELL: A typhoon causes major problems for the people in the Philippines. Thousands out of their homes, without power. And there could be more damage on the way.

Plus, a shark scare in Hawaii. Details on two separate attacks off the coast.

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BLACKWELL: Family and friends you see here gathered in Jacksonville, Florida. This is a prayer service for the 33 crewmembers on board that missing American cargo ship, El Faro. You see here this moment of silence and then the names of every crew member was read there.

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PAUL (voice-over): More than 15,000 people had to evacuate the Northern Philippines because of Typhoon Koppu. The storm is still battering the island. It made landfall early this morning.

And here's the thing: compounding matters is the typhoon is expected to hover there. Some areas forecast to receive more than 39 inches of rain just by the end of Wednesday.

BLACKWELL (voice-over): Former NBA star Lamar Odom may be showing some signs of improvement, at least that's what his sister-in-law, Kim Kardashian, tweeted to 36 million followers.

Here is part of it, she writes, "So happy Kendall and I could make you smile today. God is good."

Odom was hospitalized Tuesday after he was found unconscious at the Love Ranch in Nevada, where he had been holed up since Saturday.

PAUL (voice-over): The Texas teen who was detained for bringing a homemade clock to his high school is now the recipient of the American Muslim of the Year Award from the Council on American Islamic Relations.

In September, remember, Ahmed Mohamed was handcuffed after teachers thought his clock was a bomb. His detention caused a debate on Islamophobia.

BLACKWELL (voice-over): Tensions still rising in the Middle East and so is the violence with attacks in several cities.

But what is behind these incidents? The answer depends upon who you ask.

Plus, boxing great, Evander Holyfield, joining NEW DAY the next half hour, talking kids, his charity, politics as well.

And here is a question.

Could you ever give half of your salary, your annual salary, to charity? I spoke with a woman who is doing just that, she and her husband. I want you to watch this one. Go to facebook.com/newday to see her story. And maybe this will inspire you and your family to give.

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PAUL (voice-over): "Run, Joe, run." Those words chanted by attendees at an awards event for Vice President Joe Biden.

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PAUL: The V.P. spoke about faith, religious liberty also his late son, Beau. All of this as of course we await his decision on a potential 2016 bid, which sources say is imminent.

And former secretary of state Hillary Clinton is scheduled to testify before a House Select Committee this week on the Benghazi attacks. Four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, died when extremists hit two U.S. facilities in Benghazi September 11, 2012.

BLACKWELL: Turning to the Middle East now, Israelis say Palestinians carried out five separate stabbing attacks yesterday, including one by a Palestinian man who was shot dead by an armed Israeli civilian, the man in white, after the Palestinian tried to stab him.

But amid the violence, there are calls for peace. Thousands of Israelis stood side-by-side with Palestinians last night, calling for understanding and an end to the violence that gripped this region now for weeks.

Well, Phil Black is live in Jerusalem following this story.

Phil, it's been quite obvious that why this is happening and what the response should be depends upon who is answering the question there.

PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Indeed, that's true, Victor. It is one of the enduring characteristics of this conflict, that there are always two often starkly opposing versions of every event.

And that has especially been the case over the last two weeks since these stabbing attacks began on the streets of Jerusalem here and in other places.