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NARENDRA MODI, INDIAN PRIME MINISTER (through translator): We have discussed climate change. India has.
The difference trait (ph) amongst our countries, I am very confident that, by February 2016.
-- we will make defense manufacturing the main core (ph) in India and U.K. will be part of the.
-- economy partnership is just as important and just as deep.
And U.K. is the third biggest investor in India and will continue to do so and grow even bigger. We have decided to fast-track this business
relationship. We are working very hard to continue fundraising in London.
In the next two days, the engagements that are going to take place within our business sector, we have a lot to talk about in the business sector.
We have had discussions on climate change and clean energy.
We hope that.
-- we hope that there will be a good cooperative in Paris, which will benefit our countries. It will consist of a lot of the things, like river
cleaning, technology, research. And we will endeavor, both our countries.
MODI (through translator): On all these issues, all these matters, we and Prime Minister Cameron are due to talk on many issues on terrorism, on the
securities (sic), on the cyber.
Today in Parliament, I'm honored and.
For our strategy partnership today, we have created a vision. And in order to achieve that vision, as of today, our friendship and relationship has
become even more stronger (sic). Thank you.
DAVID CAMERON, PRIME MINISTER, GREAT BRITAIN: We will start with a British question from the BBC.
QUESTION: Prime Minister Cameron, you visited India three times since you came to power.
Why has it taken so long to get a return visit?
And, Prime Minister Modi, India is becoming an increasingly intolerant place.
CAMERON: Let me answer your question.
Actually India is not only the first major country I visited as prime minister, it was also the first major country I visited as leader of the
opposition. So I have been wanting to see a strengthening of this relationship, not just for the last five years, but the last 10 years. And
I think we have made some important progress.
The figures on investment are very striking. India invests more into Britain than into the whole of the rest of the E.U. combined. And in terms
of G20 countries, Britain is the biggest investor, bigger than America, bigger than France, bigger than Germany into India.
But I think where we agree is that we shouldn't rest on our laurels; we should try and raise our sights and look at these projects like smart
cities, like digital India, like clean India, where we can bring expertise and really forge a partnership.
India soon will be the third largest economy in the world. Britain is the fifth largest economy in the world. We have, I think, real potential.
As for the time it takes to have a visit, I'm delighted that the prime minister is here. We've met many times before at G20s, most recently in
New York, and we agreed to make this visit a centerpiece of building the stronger relationship, which is what we're doing today -- Prime Minister.
MODI (through translator): It's true that there has been a gap of 10 years. Nonetheless, during my time in the past one year, there have been
11 ministerial visits from India to the U.K. and from U.K. to India.
Therefore, the relations between U.K. and India is continuing. And, in fact, I've had the opportunity of discussing at length with Prime Minister
twice and we have all committed to taking our relationship forward.
In terms of the question you have raised, India is the land of Buddha, India is the land of Gandhi and, therefore, there is something that is
deeply entrenched in our culture, in our traditions, which is that of not accepting anything that is -- that has to do with intolerance.
And therefore if any event takes place, wherever it may occur in India, whether it's once or twice in a country of 1.2 billion people --
MODI (through translator): -- if -- every incident that happens is a serious incident for us. And we do not tolerate such incidents of violence
at all. We take solemn (ph) actions and we continue to take solemn (ph) actions and legal actions against such incidents.
India is a vibrant democracy, which.
-- which protects every citizen and the values of every citizen in accordance with our constitution. And we're committed to that.
QUESTION: So my questions is to both prime ministers.
Sir, both India and U.K. are victims of terror from same terrorist groups. Both our cities are being bombed by the people who are trained from the
same source of (INAUDIBLE). Both our people, both countries lost lives in Afghanistan, those same types of terrorists.
Did India, in your discussions today, sir, did you discuss the shared concerns and did you agree on some of the cooperation in this field (ph)?
MODI (through translator): Thank you. As far as terrorism is concerned, your concern is vital for anyone who believes in humanity. And I'd like to
state that with satisfaction, that in the United States, all the initiatives taken against terrorism, both India and the U.K. have been
standing together, shoulder to shoulder, to fight against all sorts of terrorism and we have taken a common stand in the U.N.
Both our countries face extreme threat from terrorism and that is why fighting terrorism is not something that just matters to one or two or
three countries that can do. This is the responsibility of every humanist in the world, every humanitarian, every human being.
Today terrorism has spread so far that it has no frontiers, it has no barriers. New groups are born every day. New equipment falls into their
hands every day. So of terrorists don't manufacture their own equipment. Obviously it comes from somewhere.
Mahatma Gandhi used to say that you only get justice when you know what injustice is.
So who do we designate as terrorists?
Who helps the terrorists?
In fact, there is a proposal in the United Nations on this issue but, unfortunately, it is just hanging without any settlement. And the U.K. and
we agree that we need to discuss this at length. That is why all well- meaning nations should work together. All those who help terrorists in one way or the other should be fought against and we all should work towards
CAMERON: There were discussions today about the terrorist threat that we both face. We're going to have intensive discussions tomorrow morning on
exactly this issue.
India has suffered, on the streets of Mumbai, for instance; we have suffered on the streets of London. And we have to confront particularly
this Islamist extremist violence and terrorism, which is doing so much damage, not just to our countries but also to the world.
The argument I would make is it's not enough simply to close down terrorist groups and close down ungoverned space, which is what our intervention in
Afghanistan was about, was to try and make sure that that country was run by a government with a power to keep terrorist groups out of that country.
We also need to deal with the narrative that the terrorists use with the culture of grievance; they try to build up to justify unjustified actions
and that, I think, will be part of our discussions tomorrow.
Let's hear from Nick Watt (ph) from "The Guardian."
ROBYN CURNOW, CNN HOST: British prime minister David Cameron there, talking about terrorism after his meeting with Narendra --
CURNOW: -- Modi, the leader of India. It was a wide-ranging press conference, as you heard; importantly, David Cameron, early on saying that
this was a modern partnership founded on old ties.
Of course, Narendra Modi is getting feted in typical British pomp during this visit. He's due to speak to Parliament in the coming hours. He's
going to have lunch with the Queen. And he's also going to address a massive rally of the Indian diaspora at Wembley Stadium tomorrow.
So a busy trip and also lots of trade deals also being announced.
Well, let's move on. I'm Robyn Curnow, by the way. You're watching the INTERNATIONAL DESK.
I want to talk now about a new offensive against ISIS in Northern Iraq. Kurdish forces are battling for the strategically important town of Sinjar,
it's a vital supply link between the ISIS-held city of Mosul and the ISIS territory in Syria.
Kurdish forces have already claimed control of several villages nearby. They launched this new push backed by coalition air support.
Our Nick Paton Walsh has been following the latest on the ground from just outside Sinjar.
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SR. INTL. CORRESPONDENT: The Peshmerga have said since 9 o'clock yesterday evening local time, they have been moving towards
the town of Sinjar. And we heard, ourselves, through the night from the top of Mount Sinjar the constant coalition airstrikes.
And there in evidence still now today around us, as they claim substantial progress. The Kurds say that, to the west of Sinjar, they have taken a
village called Kabara, which was vitally part of the route down to what many say is the strategic objective here.
While Sinjar is itself symbolically vitally important, because many want to see it back in the hands of those Yazidis who once lived there, the Sunni
Arabs who once lived there, pushed out brutally last year by ISIS, many forced into captivity, slavery.
It is sacked, that town, Sinjar, on a vital artery, a vital road between the self-declared caliphate capital, Raqqa in Syria, and Mosul. Fire in
that direction in Iraq, which they also took last year.
Many, including the coalition, Central Command, actually, Pentagon officials believe if they sever that artery, they can severely hamper ISIS'
ability to make money out of the black market oil trade.
Now that may be why we're hearing so much coalition airpower in the skies here. We've seen a succession of heavy blasts around. That road itself is
in the distance here. I can't tell you precisely where we are under the rules the Kurds have asked us to adhere to as part of being with their
Peshmerga forces. But those Peshmerga forces have been moving in great number down further towards in the direction of that road.
And we've seen -- they say their numbers, 7.5 thousands, quite easy to believe, given the strength of forces we have observed here.
Hopes high in Kurdish officials' hearts that perhaps this could be over in a matter of days if not hours but they are already admitting the booby
traps and mines laid pretty much everywhere are substantially slowing them down. We hear blasts pretty much regularly here. Hard to see how there
won't be casualties and hard to see how this will be an easy operation -- Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, outside Sinjar.
CURNOW: And, of course, we'll continue to keep you updated on this offensive with our team, Nick Paton Walsh, and others on the ground there.
So stay with us.
Moving on, African and European leaders have agreed on some new but relatively small steps to address the migrant crisis. The E.U. will
contribute nearly $2 billion to an emergency trust fund for Africa, that they hope will be used to target the root causes of the influx into Europe.
But as the flow continues, the E.U. president is warning that the bloc's open border accord is on the brink of collapsing. Several countries have
reintroduced border controls or put up fences.
CNN's Atika Shubert is covering the migrant crisis. She joins us now live from Spielfeld, Austria, near the border with Slovenia.
What is it like where you are?
Hi, there, Atika.
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi. Well, refugees keep trickling in. In fact, we've seen several groups; one group now just going in behind me.
They get an average of about 5,000 refugees coming in through this border crossing. But they are expecting more to come.
It's actually been quite slow over the last few days because of a ferry strike in Greece. But we do know that there are more than 10,000 that were
hoping to come through here, many of them trying, of course, to get to Germany.
But we are now seeing resistance in a number of E.U. governments here; Sweden, for example, today, saying that it's going to install border
controls on its southern border, telling people they have to make a decision, do they want to claim asylum there in Sweden or turn around and
return to the country where they're coming from?
So -- and it's not the only one. Earlier today, we -- for example, we went to the Slovenia-Croatian border, where we saw a razor wire fence being
erected there. Refugees can still pass. But essentially what we're seeing is governments across the E.U. putting in these fences as a form of crowd -
SHUBERT: -- control but the fears are that eventually these may be used to keep refugees out altogether, which is the case in Hungary and now on the
And, of course, aid workers say refugees will keep coming; they're just going to take different routes to get in -- Robyn.
CURNOW: Indeed. Just an indication of how overwhelming this crisis is.
Let's talk about this money, this $2 billion that E.U. leaders want to give to Africa to try and deal with the root causes of this.
I mean, do you think that is a solution, throwing money at the problem?
SHUBERT: I think it's probably one part, a very small part of a larger solution. And, again, the focus of the summit seems to be more on the
migration routes from Africa. And, frankly, that has changed in the last few months.
The summit recently was installed really because of the crisis we saw in the spring, where we saw dozens of people dying as they attempted to cross
from Libya into Italy. Now refugees are taking the route from Greece into Turkey, to Turkey, Greece, up through Serbia and Austria into Germany, is
what is being called the Balkan route.
So they can try and tackle the root causes in the various countries, poverty and conflict. But the fact is people are going to continue coming
in the short to medium term.
So what to do about the people that are coming in. And there is no cohesive response from the E.U. Keep in mind, the E.U. has said -- has
promised to house something more than 100,000 refugees this year.
And yet, only the last few months, they have only been able to resettle about 130. At this rate, it's going to take them years to resettle just
100,000 refugees. In the meantime, Germany is expecting more than a million this year alone.
CURNOW: Numbers just staggering, overwhelming. Thank you so much, Atika Shubert there.
Well, dramatic video shows a deadly undercover raid on a hospital in the West Bank. What happened and the allegation that the raid broke
international law in a live report -- that's next.
CURNOW: Welcome back. I'm Robyn Curnow and you're watching the INTERNATIONAL DESK.
A terror sweep in Europe has netted more than a dozen suspects. They're the alleged members of Rawti Shax, an Islamist group that aligns itself
with ISIS and wanted to overthrow Kurdish leaders in Northern Iraq.
The suspects were caught in Italy, Norway and the U.K. Others remain at large. European officials say group members used the Internet to
communicate and recruit and are spread out across Europe and Iraq, Iran and Syria.
Now I want to tell you about a new response to the violence between Israelis and Palestinians. A dramatic 3:00 am raid on a West Bank hospital
by an undercover Israeli unit. They were there to arrest stabbing suspects and killed one of his --
CURNOW: -- relatives in the process, a move Palestinian officials say is a violation of international law.
I want to bring in our Oren Liebermann, who joins me now from Jerusalem with more details.
Hi, there, Oren. There is video of this raid. Just talk us through it.
OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: As you said, let's begin right there with the video. This is from 3:00 in the morning, the Al-Ahli Hospital in
the southern West Bank in Hebron.
What you see is a group of what appear to be local Palestinian men and women, even one person dressed as a pregnant woman but that's really
undercover Israeli security officers moving into this hospital. You even see them at one point with their weapons drawn.
Three minutes later, same surveillance camera, you see them moving out, except this time they have somebody in a wheelchair. That is the person
they say they came to arrest, Azzam Shalaldeh. They say he is accused of stabbing an Israeli settler in the West Bank in late October.
In that incident, the IDF says a settler shot back and shot Shalaldeh, which is why they say he was in the hospital. So that is the first part of
But during this raid, the IDF says they shot one of Azzam Shalaldeh's cousins, who was in the room at the time, Abdullah Shalaldeh, who was 27
years old. He was shot and killed there during this raid in that three minutes that these security officers are inside the hospital. That now has
become the focus of this incident.
This ministry of information, the Palestinian ministry of information says this is a breach of international law. They released a statement reading,
the ministry of information considers the Israeli undercover soldiers' crime of killing a Palestinian youth, Abdullah Shalaldeh, in his hospital
room at the Al-Ahli Hospital in Hebron today, another crime added to the criminal record of the Israeli occupation army.
The Israeli soldiers stormed a local hospital and killed a youth with cold blood in a ghastly crime that requires immediate response by the Health and
Human Rights Organization.
Now we did get a response from the Shin Bet, which is the Israeli security agency; they say it should be emphasized that the security system will not
allow the existence of places of refuge for terror activists, wherever they are.
So this surveillance video, which shows this raid on the hospital, getting a lot of attention because of what it is, an undercover raid on a hospital
CURNOW: Very dramatic pictures there. Oren Liebermann in Jerusalem, thanks so much for that update.
Well, a Putin spokesman admits secret data on a planned nuclear torpedo system appeared on Russian television.
Two Kremlin-controlled TV stations showed footage of a document on the Status 6 weapons system. It was filmed as Mr. Putin met military officials
in Sochi. It details how sub-fired torpedoes would create zones of radioactive contamination. The presidential spokesperson is promising a
similar breach won't happen again.
Well, you're at the INTERNATIONAL DESK. Still to come, Sweden tries to cope with an overwhelming influx of migrants. Find out what steps
Stockholm is taking and why.
CURNOW: Welcome to the INTERNATIONAL DESK. I'm Robyn Curnow. Here is a check of the headlines.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CURNOW (voice-over): British prime minister David Cameron says he wants London to become an offshore rupee trading center for India. He's been
meeting with Indian prime minister Narendra Modi. And boosting trade ties is leading the agenda. Mr. Cameron says he wants to partner with Mr. Modi
to help him achieve his economic vision for the country.
Kurdish forces backed by coalition air support are trying to take back the Northern Iraqi town of Sinjar from ISIS. The operation includes up to
7,500 Peshmerga fighters. They're attacking the city on three sides.
European and African leaders have wrapped up talks in Malta on the migrant crisis that's affecting both continents. The E.U. is offering up to nearly
$2 billion to African nations to help stem the flow of refugees into Europe. The emergency funds are to be used for repatriation programs and a
crackdown on human smuggling rings.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CURNOW: More now on the European migrant crisis. Sweden has taken in more migrants in proportion to its population than any other any European
country but now it's reinstating border controls in an effort to gain some control over this massive influx. The prime minister says it isn't to
prevent people from seeking asylum. He explained the move Wednesday in Malta. Take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
STEFAN LOFVEN, SWEDISH PRIME MINISTER (through translator): We need order at our borders and there has to be order in our reception of refugees.
And, therefore, the government will tomorrow decide that interior border controls will be imposed from 12 noon tomorrow.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CURNOW: Swedish authorities say they are just so overwhelmed they just cannot provide housing as well to the migrants. Let's get more on Sweden's
Anders Ygeman joins me now via Skype from Stockholm. He's the Swedish minister for home affairs.
Thank you, sir, for being with us. This is a huge decision for Sweden, a country that has really tried to welcome these refugees, migrants with open
ANDERS YGEMAN, SWEDISH MINISTER FOR HOME AFFAIRS: Yes, it is. But still we want to welcome the refugees. We just want to have a better control of
them and have a better flow.
CURNOW: Is this an acknowledgement that you're concerned about security as well?
But who is part of these massive groups of immigrants coming to Sweden?
YGEMAN: We are, of course, interested in security but not in that sense that we're questioning who is coming to Sweden in that sense. But, of
course, all the security is a basis for this decision.
CURNOW: What is the impact, the day-to-day impact, how is this going to change what has being happening before?
I know if you think about that massive orison bridge between Copenhagen and Malmo, how do you police 20,000 cars going over every day?
YGEMAN: We don't check every car at every moment. We do certain checks. But we have definitely a better check of the cars and buses and trains on
the bridge. And we have better checks of the people traveling by both from Germany and Denmark to Sweden.
CURNOW: The Danish prime minister, Lars Lokke Rasmussen, says actually that Sweden might now get more asylum numbers because obviously people will
have to make a decision whether they stay in Sweden and not go on to, say, Norway or Finland.
Are you factoring that in, as well, into this?
YGEMAN: That could be one effect but it could also be to that --
YGEMAN: -- more people are seeking asylum in Denmark as well.
CURNOW: So what does that mean for Denmark?
Not very neighborly.
YGEMAN: We have a great cooperation with our Danish friends. But of course, Denmark, Finland, Norway has to take their responsibility in this
CURNOW: So has this not become a diplomatic problem between neighbors?
YGEMAN: Absolutely not. We have the best cooperation and I've found my colleagues, the minister of the Danish government, the Finnish government
and the Norwegian government yesterday, before we had a press conference to inform them of the upcoming decisions, which government.
CURNOW: Just give us a practical understanding of what Sweden is dealing with.
Why are you feeling so overwhelmed?
We just mentioned you're struggling to find places for refugees to stay. I spoke to the queen of Sweden when she was in New York a few months ago and
she said we have to help them. We have to do everything possible.
But clearly this is an acknowledgement that you're struggling to.
YGEMAN: We're struggling but we have to help them. People are fleeing ISIS, people are fleeing the barrel bombs of Assad. And we -- Europe can't
turn our back against people fleeing from these horrible actions.
But Sweden can't take the whole responsibility. We're dependent on our other European colleagues and allies to take their part of the refugee
crisis. And we have to have border control over the flow that -- the flow to Sweden so that we can provide housing, education and work for the people
coming to Sweden.
CURNOW: Are you disappointed with the European response?
There has been this meeting about cooperation, coordination. But at the same time if Sweden can't manage it, if Sweden has to close or at least
monitor their borders, this is an indication that something is not working.
YGEMAN: I'm disappointed of the actions of the European Union. I mean, we have taken really good decisions about sharing the responsibility. But so
far it has been good words but too little of action. And we need those mechanisms to come into place and we need a common responsibility of the
border of the European Union to uphold the situation and have a good reception of refugees fleeing from Syria and Iraq.
CURNOW: OK. Thank you, Anders Ygeman, the Swedish home affairs minister, thank you for joining us here at the INTERNATIONAL DESK. Appreciate it.
There'll be more news after this short break. So stick around.
CURNOW: Welcome back.
Well, two members of the Venezuelan president's family are under arrest in Haiti's capital. According to a U.S. source who was part of the raid, one
of the men was raised by the wife of Venezuela's president, Nicolas Maduro. The other is her nephew.
The source with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration says the two men were trying to smuggle 800 kilograms of drugs into the U.S. and that they
insisted they had diplomatic immunity. The Venezuelan government has not commented on those allegations.
In New York, TV footage helped to capture suspects who targeted news helicopters with laser pointers. The blinding beams of light can
temporarily blind pilots; in this case, the suspects were recorded in the act and New York police quickly closed in and arrested them. Here is a
look at how it happened on live TV.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I see the people involved right now, they're walking in and out of the building.
Hitting us right now, don't look, George.
Well, yes, you think this is a joke, huh?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CURNOW: And there were two other reported laser incidents on news choppers around New York Wednesday and at least one more arrest.
A California judge has dismissed a lawsuit accusing pop star Taylor Swift of copyright infringement.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CURNOW (voice-over): That got you moving.
Well, Swift was accused of stealing another artist's lyrics for this hit song, "Shake It Off," but the judge threw out the lawsuit. And in quite an
unusual move, she actually used Swift's lyrics in her ruling.
She wrote, quote, "As currently drafted, the complainant has a, quote', blank space'."
And she ended the ruling with, quote, "defendants have shaken off this lawsuit."
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CURNOW: Clearly she's a Taylor Swift fan or she has young daughters like me and knows every word of every lyric as well.
That does it for us here at the INTERNATIONAL DESK. I'm Robyn Curnow. "WORLD SPORT" with Amanda Davies is up next. Thanks for watching.