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Donald Trump Calls for Ban on Muslims Entering the U.S.; New Information About San Bernardino Shooting; Syrian Town Returning to Life; Oscar Pistorius Applies for Bail. Aired 3-4a ET

Aired December 8, 2015 - 03:00   ET

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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN INTERNATIONAL NEWSROOM HOST: Donald Trump draws outrage with a call for a ban on Muslims entering the United States.

ERROL BARNETT, CNN INTERNATIONAL NEWSROOM HOST: Why the FBI suspects the San Bernardino attackers were radicalized long before their deadly rampage.

CHURCH: Rising from the ruins, a Syrian town is slowly returning to life after month long siege by ISIS.

BARNETT: Plus, former Olympian Oscar Pistorius is in court right now to apply for bail.

Hello and welcome to our viewers here in the states and those of you watching all around the world. I am Errol Barnett.

CHURCH: And I am Rosemary Church. This is CNN Newsroom.

U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump is deepening the controversy over his plans for Muslims if he gets elected. The Republican front- runner is calling for a total ban on all Muslims entering the country.

BARNETT: The plan brought immediate condemnation from rival candidates, but as Dana Bash reports, it hasn't put off his supporters.

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DANA BASH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A total and complete shutdown of all Muslims entering this country, that, Donald Trump's new policy prescription for dealing with terror threats in America. Asked by CNN in September if Muslims pose a danger to the U.S., here was Trump's response.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I love the Muslims. I think they're great people.

BASH: Now, in a new statement he claims vast Muslim hatred towards America saying, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. Trump presidential rival Chris Christie quickly dismissed it.

CHRIS CHRISTIE, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: This is the kind of thing that people say when they have no experience and don't what they're talking about. We do not need to resort that type of activity nor should we.

BASH: Lindsey Graham immediately tweeted, every candidate for President needs to do the right thing and condemn Donald Trump's statement. Jeb bush called Donald Trump unhinged, tweeting his policy proposals are not serious. Meanwhile, Ted Cruz cautiously distanced himself.

TED CRUZ, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: That is not my policy. I've introduced legislation in the senate that would put in place a three- year moratorium on refugees where ISIS and Al Qaeda control a substantial amount of territory.

BASH: This as a new CNN/ORC pole shows that 33 percent of likely Iowa caucus goers say they support Trump, that's an 8 point increase from last month.

CRUZ: The American people are looking for a Commander In Chief who will keep us safe.

BASH: Ted Cruz is now in second place overall, but winning among evangelical voters traditionally key in Iowa. Ben Carson tumbled seven points, now the third choice of Iowans likely to vote. What unites GOP voters is disdain for President Obama.

OBAMA: This was an act of terrorism.

BASH: And Republican candidates spent the day competing to criticize the President's Oval Office address on ISIS.

CRUZ: We don't need a President who goes on national television and lectures the American people like a school mom. It condescends to the American people and says the problem we have is Islamophobia.

BASH: As for Trump's new proposal to ban Muslims from entering the U.S., his GOP rivals are uniformly opposed to it, even Ben Carson who once said he couldn't see a Muslim being elected President. He said everybody visiting America should be registered and monitored. But he would not advocate being selective on one's religion. Dana Bash, CNN, Washington.

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BARNETT: Ben Ferguson is a CNN Republican Commentator. He joins us now from Dallas to talk about all of this. Ben, we all know Muslims are a popular target for Donald Trump, that aside, the concept that -- the complete banning of one demographic entering the country is -- it's outrageous and it's inherently un-American, unconstitutional, yet we are talking about the Republican front-runner here. How can this be explained?

BEN FERGUSON, CNN REPUBLICAN COMMENTATOR: You know I think there are two things about this. One, you've seen virtually every other Republican candidate come out and condemn this and say this is another example of Donald Trump going too far. But I also think it shows that he is filling a void where many Americans don't believe that President Obama has gone far enough to protect this country, especially after his comments to the nation in primetime Sunday evening. So he is filling that void where there is nothing that has really changed from this administration so he says, hey, I am going in with this big, bold idea. It's not very well thought out, and I think that's what's going to get him in a lot of trouble.

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It's also big issue of -- can you have a test to come back in or get into this country that if you are a Muslim we're going to say no to you? There's a lot of questions I have are what if you used to be in the military and now you're in the Middle East as a contractor. Are you going to be allowed back into this country? I would think legally you would have the right to come back.

BARNETT: And the concept is a slippery slope. You even have Senator Cruz, he is also running. He's frequently open described as least liked by Democrats and Republicans in Capitol Hill. Even he says this is something he cannot support. Will there be any establishment voice louder than Donald Trump's that will denounce something like this? Because I should say it appeals to a small sliver of the Republican base.

FERGUSON: I think you're going to see a big us against Donald Trump moment more than likely on the 15th when you have the next CNN debate, because virtually every campaign that I've talked to tonight has also said the same thing, this is out of step with reality. This is out of step with the Republican Party. This is Donald Trump going off the reservation on his own, and this is also going to be a point I think they'll use to say this is what we all have been warning you about. You may like Donald Trump because he says he's going to go after ISIS and you may like Donald Trump because he says he's going to make America great again, but the devil is in the details here. For him to be able to defend this on stage, when he has every other Republican that's going to disagree with him in a very big way, I think that's going to be a lot harder for him to overcome this than some of the other guests he's had in the past.

BARNETT: Now before this statement, Donald Trump was up even higher in the polls. He's been the Teflon don in the past few months. Nothing he's said has changed that. Do you think that will continue? At what point will you get a conservative voice to jump up there and say this is Islamophobia, it will cost Republicans the election and it is enough by now.

FERGUSON: I think you're seeing a lot of that already. I also think you're seeing these other candidates like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz that have actually been doing well in the polls. I think when you see them unite behind the idea that we're talking about here, it will probably hurt Donald Trump I think in the near future. The reason why he's been surging lately is he's been a complete opposite when it comes to foreign policy compared to the President of the United States of America. Many Americans are concerned about the lack of focus on dealing with ISIS and the lack of focus of dealing with terrorism. So that's why he's done so well. The question is did he overstep on this statement, and I think you're going to see voters are going to say, yes.

He did overstep. Some will support him because they love him. The other big thing about Donald Trump is that I think he's misunderstood are his supporters. His supporters are fanatics for him. They absolutely love him. They're going to love him the more he's criticized by anybody in the media, the more they're going to stand by him regardless of what he said. He may have plateaud. The question is can he add to that number? I am not sure he can.

BARNETT: We'll see what happens in the next few weeks. Ben Ferguson thanks for giving us your insight, joining us from Dallas, CNN commentator.

FERGUSON: Absolutely.

CHURCH: Want to get some international reaction now. We want to go to CNN's Sara Sidner. She joins us from Istanbul in Turkey. Sara, as people across Turkey, the Middle East, indeed, across the world, wake up to this news about what Donald Trump has been saying about his plans for Muslims if he becomes President, what's been the reaction in that part of the world?

SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We've been looking on social media, we've been hearing from different leaders of different countries that are predominantly Muslim like Indonesia. Turkey has not responded officially. If you look at what people are saying, they're saying things like, well, you know perhaps Trump's ok with taking money from rich Muslims but apparently he's also ok with being a racist. We should also mention, there's a Trump Towers here in Istanbul. It's the only one in a predominantly Muslim country. It is interesting to note how people are marking that as well saying as someone called it on social media, his ugly tower here in Istanbul.

They have spoken out saying, look, he is not an official from the United States, and he is simply a candidate. Normally, we don't comment on these sorts of things, but they did want to put out there that Islam is a religion of peace and that they feel like there are a few people who have co-opted their religion, and he is responding to those people and coloring everyone with the same brush and it's simply unfair. You heard from Islam supporters in Thailand as well saying, hey, you know, this is completely and totally against the American way.

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What is happening here hearing that from a front-runner who is a candidate for the Presidential position there in the United States? I think its given people a lot of worry. There are of course people who are simply angry and disgusted hearing these kinds of words from a Presidential candidate who has, as people know, quite a bit of support from of those folks in the United States. CHURCH: Of course, it has to be said that even former Vice President

Dick Cheney is not in agreement with Donald Trump's plans, but how uneasy has this made Muslims across the world? You talked there about some of the reaction. Is there a fear going forward, but is there also a realization that in a sense Donald Trump stands very much alone away from the Republican Party machine on this?

SIDNER: Yeah, I don't think that that distinction has quite yet been made. When somebody in his position who is known around the world, who is doing very well in the polls, who is a Presidential candidate, who is vying for this top spot, it's hard for people to make that separation to say, ok, these other people are saying this. It is an extremely bold statement so a lot of people looking at that saying, is this going to be the person who represents America? What does that mean for us? Let's not even forget tourism as well, especially women wearing the hijab. They may be the ones who suffer the most after this for fear of xenophobic ideas.

There is concern that there will be more discrimination because of comments like this, Rosemary.

CHURCH: Sara Sidner bringing us some reaction there to Donald Trump's proposals regarding Muslims. She joins us live from Istanbul in Turkey, many thanks to you, Sara.

BARNETT: And in Pretoria, South Africa, former Olympic Athlete Oscar Pistorius is back in court right now. These pictures were from earlier. Right now the hearing has adjourned and the judge is considering the bail application.

CHURCH: Yeah, this hearing follows Pistorius' upgraded murder conviction last week for the shooting death of his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp. A new date for sentencing could also be set at this hearing.

BARNETT: Our CNN Correspondent Eleni Giokos joins us from Pretoria, South Africa with the latest on this. Eleni, just bring us up to speed on what happened last hour and what we're expecting to happen next.

ELENI GIOKOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Oscar Pistorius' lawyer Barry Roux outlined stricter bail conditions for Oscar Pistorius. But remember that Pistorius is currently under house arrest at his uncle's home, and a previous lighter conviction of culpable homicide. That all changed last week when the supreme court of appeal upgraded that conviction to murder, and many asking the question what now. Can a convicted murderer stay home, yes, under house arrest, until his sentencing? That is going to be very important. So Barry Roux came out and said that we agree to any electronic monitoring. He won't be allowed to leave the premises without having police presence, and also saying they can offer up $750,000 in bail. They cannot afford any more than that because Oscar Pistorius has basically run out of money.

Meanwhile, the state has come back and said that they concur with all the stricter conditions put forward by the defense, and this is the point where the judge has now taken the decision to adjourn the court. Also of importance here, Errol, is the fact that the defense has noted that they're going to the constitutional court, which is the highest court in South Africa. They will be appealing this murder conviction.

BARNETT: And it continues to be a fascinating case to watch, Eleni, because the judgment made in changes Pistorius' charges essentially said the previous judge didn't acknowledge all evidence put in front of her. We all remember watching closely day in and day out those proceedings. So we're hearing here a discussion on how bail will be changed. Will they also set a date for additional sentencing? What else needs to be done to follow the guidelines of now the fact that he was charged with murder rather than culpable homicide?

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GIOKOS: Well, this is the interesting point because you have a sentencing that needs to occur sometime next year. Courts go to recess. They come back on the 25th of January. We have a court role that is very full. Are they going to prioritize this so that he's sentenced as soon as possible or do you think there's going to perhaps be some kind of delay which will give the defense team an opportunity to put forward the appeal to the constitutional court? There's a sense that perhaps they're going to try to delay it as much as possible so that Oscar Pistorius can stay under house arrest until the appeal goes through to the constitutional court. So there are a lot of different elements that are at play right now.

Remember, we have very different circumstances played out for this case, firstly under the spotlight of the international and local media. In fact, this is being broadcast live to all the local media as well. You also have a disabled person which needs to be treated in a certain way in prison. So we've got circumstances which have been taken into consideration by all judges, but Judge Mapesa, the judge that presided over the original trial, has been lambasted for not taking all the evidence into consideration. And the judge that overturned that conviction has actually come out and said that some of the evidence was ignored.

BARNETT: Eleni, stand by for us. We expect the hearing to resume at any moment. We'll take a very short break here on CNN and bring our viewers back inside the courtroom in moments.

CHURCH: All right. We'll be back in a moment.

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BARNETT: This was one of two candlelight vigils held Monday night in San Bernardino, California, one for county employees and another at a nearby university.

CHURCH: Five days have passed since the massacre that killed 14 people. Earlier on Monday, the city re-opened the street in front of the site of the killings.

BARNETT: In the meantime, investigators are digging deeper into the background of the couple who carried out the attack.

CHURCH: As Pamela Brown reports, the husband and wife apparently had become radical long before the killings.

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PAMELA BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: For the first time, a picture has emerged of the attackers together. The photo was snapped as the married couple passed through customs at Chicago's O'Hare Airport in July of 2014.

DAVID BOWDICH, ASST. FBI DIRECTOR IN CHARGE: As the investigation has progressed, we have learned and believe that both subjects were radicalized and have been for quite some time.

BROWN: U.S. Officials believe Farook's life, Tashfeen Malik, had been radicalized before stepping foot in the U.S., raising alarm bells about the fiance visa she came in on. The State Department says Malik would have had to have had an in person interview before receiving her visa, but a State Department document obtained by CNN in her immigration file, shows she failed to show up for her interview. It's unclear if she ever rescheduled.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The background checks aren't as extensive as you would get on a regular visa, green card or employment situation over here in the States.

BROWN: Malik was born in Pakistan and spent some of her life in Saudi Arabia where her father lives. She earned a degree in pharmacy from a women's only Pakistani university. A professor there told reporters she was quiet and reserved.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was nothing special to be noted by the teachers. She was an average student. She came, always came on time.

BROWN: CNN had learned Syed Farook not only interacted with FBI terrorism suspects but also looked into the contacting terrorist groups overseas. Like Al Qaeda, affiliate Al Nusra and Al Shabaab, Farook's father told an Italian newspaper his son "shared the ideology of ISIS leader Al Baghdadi to create an Islamic state, and he was fixated on Israel." Farook lived with his mother in Redlands, California, where investigators found a cache of ammunition and bomb making materials. The attorney general told NBC News that investigators are interested in what she may have known about her son and daughter-in-law's activities.

BOWDICH: We have found evidence of preplanning. We want to know everyone who profited from it, financed it. I am not saying there is anything like that, but we will leave no stone unturned.

BROWN: It's unclear what started this husband and wife on the path to the radicalization or who may have known about it in advance, but tonight new indications of planning in the days ahead of the attack.

BOWDICH: We do have evidence that both of these subjects did some target -- participated in some target practice in some ranges within the metro area.

BROWN: Pamela Brown, CNN, Washington.

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BARNETT: Last year, one Syrian town became a symbol of the ground fight against ISIS. Kurdish forces fought back in Kobani.

CHURCH: Kobani was left in ruins and much of it remains a waste land. As Ben Wedeman reports, the people who live there are determined to rebuild.

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BEN WEDEMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Seventeen-year-old (Inaudible) sends his pigeons flying over his hometown of Kobani, flying over a town of ruins and rubble, but where hope lives on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What makes me happy now is that I am home despite all the destruction around us, he says.

WEDEMAN: For five months from September of 2014 to January of this year, an intense battle raged between ISIS and Kurdish fighters, accompanied by heavy air strikes by the U.S.-led coalition. ISIS is gone and many of the town's residents have returned to find homes damaged almost beyond recognition.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Daesh fighters were upstairs on the second floor, he tells me, and the Kurdish fighters came in from below. There was a battle here.

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WEDEMAN: He lived here with his wife, married sons and families, 19 people in all. Now he's hoping just to make one room livable. But there is life among the ruins. Kobani took a beating, but shops are open. Some areas are a wasteland. Or to the children, a very rocky playground where they reenact with stones the battles of just a few months ago.

More than 70 percent of the buildings in Kobani were either damaged or destroyed. Despite that, there is a will to rebuild this town. The challenge is finding a way to do it. The general coordinator for Kobani reconstruction.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're building this new neighborhood for people who have lost their homes, he says, but as you can see, we've stopped because we can't import any cement from Turkey.

WEDEMAN: The ruin in northern Syria, Turkey has closed the nearby border crossing. As a result, desperately needed building materials are in short supply. Rebuilding this town could take a very long time, but like a phoenix rising from the ashes, it will rise again, Ben Wedeman, CNN, Kobani, Syria.

(END VIDEO CLIP) BARNETT: Still to come here on CNN Newsroom, we'll take you live to Rome. We can show you live pictures right now as the Pope gets ready to open the church's holy door and kick off a jubilee year.

CHURCH: And we will have those plus, volunteers doing a touch of warmth to desperate refugees arriving in Europe. We are back in a moment.

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BARNETT: Welcome back to our viewers here in the states and those of you tuned in from all around the world. It's your last half hour with us. We'll make it count. This is CNN Newsroom. I am Errol Barnett.

CHURCH: And I am Rosemary Church. Let's check the headlines for you first, U.S. Presidential Candidate Donald Trump is taking his controversial positions on Muslims in the U.S. a step further with a call for a total ban on all Muslims entering the country. Most Republican and Democratic Presidential rivals quickly condemned it.

BARNETT: The FBI says the husband and wife who carried out the San Bernardino attack were both radicalized and had been for some time. Investigators also say the pair practiced shooting at a gun range several times including shortly before the massacre.

CHURCH: Former Olympian Oscar Pistorius is in a South African court. This is following a conviction last week for the death of his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp. A new date for sentencing could also be set at this hearing. We're keeping a very close eye on this.

BARNETT: Now refugees and migrants arriving to the Greek Macedonian border. They found nothing but cold, hungry nights, but now volunteers from around the world are setting up make shift kitchens to help. Our Atika Shubert takes a look inside.

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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Once a cargo train abandoned on the tracks between Greece and Macedonia, today a kitchen and a camp. For the volunteers of no borders, it's the perfect place to cook, 2,000 meals a day for refugees waiting to cross the border.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am from a very privileged country, England, from a very privileged background so I feel like I can't turn my back on a humanitarian crisis. It has Germans, Australians, French, Iranians, Pakistanis, and Moroccans.

SHUBERT: For long stretches there is nothing but the sound of chopping and the buzz of the generator outside. Many of those cooking are asylum seekers themselves. We're inside the no borders kitchen, and it's really quite an operation. There are about 20 or so volunteers here cooking up the evening meal and it's kind of like a roving soup kitchen. It moves wherever the refugees are moving, wherever they're trying to get across the border, wherever warm meals are needed. It started in Hungary in response to the crackdown on refugees there. The kitchen moved to Slovenia, then Greece. There's no management, no one person in charge, just a crew of volunteers organized by Facebook and mobile phone texts.

Anyone can pitch up and join in. Here they delivered to the Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans that are being allowed into Macedonia and the others left behind on the border side of the fence, a mixture of people.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To me, I feel like we should open the borders because the people deserve the right that they're born with. They deserve to be able to move freely, to be able to go find a better life and whether an economic migrant or an asylum seeker from war.

SHUBERT: As we talk, the generator dies, a common occurrence, but the cooking never stops. By 6:30 p.m., there's a long cue from dinner. The steaming soup is a welcome break from the cold. It goes on until the soup runs out and it's time to unroll the sleeping bags. Much needed rest for another day of kitchen duty on the front lines of Europe's refugee crisis, Atika Shubert, CNN, Greece Macedonia border.

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BARNETT: Heartwarming stuff to see there.

Now I want to show you a celebration for Catholics around the world. Thousands of Catholics are gathering for mass in St. Peter's Square right now.

CHURCH: Pope Francis is getting ready to open the door of St. Peter's basilica officially kicking off what's called the Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy. It's the holy year for the Catholic Church and the last time it happened was in 2000.

BARNETT: CNN's Vatican Correspondent Delia Gallagher is covering the celebrations for us and joins us now on the phone. They're always fascinating to watch, Delia, but Pope Francis has made a move to allow every Catholic cathedral to do this. What rules did the Pope change ahead of this?

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DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN'S VATICAN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the Pope has -- Errol, you're right, signed a kind of new thing with this very old tradition, the opening of the holy door since the 1600s here at the Vatican. What happens essentially is the Pope pushes over the bronze doors at St. Peter's basilica and let's people walk through them for the remainder of the year. It's a way to clean your plate clean of the consequences of sin. Normally you have to come to Rome in order to do this, but the Pope has decided to say as of next Monday all Catholic cathedrals around the world can designate holy doors to walk through. They can participate from wherever they are. I have to emphasize this is a very rare event we're witnessing here at the Vatican.

The last year was 2000. Pope Francis has done under the theme of mercy or forgiveness, hence, walking through the holy doors to be forgiven.

BARNETT: Delia, I apologize for the short interruption here. We know these are always grand events. We want to take a brief moment and get back with you shortly and listen in to this as it unfolds.

I believe we can now see Delia Gallagher over the event as we are watching this unfold. Delia, you were telling us about the fact that when these doors are open and Catholics are able to walk through it, it's highly symbolic and significant. Please continue.

GALLAGHER: Well, it's important, Errol, because it relates to the idea of indulgence. Some people remember from their days of studying religion, that indulgence was a bad word. It created the rift between Protestants and Catholics. Indulgence for Catholics is this idea that you can have some of the negative consequences of sin taken away, and one of the ways that you can do that is by walking through these doors. As we were saying, the Pope in order to make this available to all people around the world is designating that all of the Catholic cathedrals around the world...

BARNETT: All right, thanks to our Delia Gallagher. We have to quickly pull away, taking you to a live event out of Pretoria, South Africa, the bail hearing for Oscar Pistorius.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is it necessary that he should contact advocate Johnson, if so, why?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If Mr. -- I forgot his name. He will never forget me that. If Mr. Bernard is not available, Advocate Johnson is available at all time.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Advocate Johnson is an officer of the court. The investigator, if he knows he won't be available, surely, he should get another officer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If that's the order of the court, I understand. I do understand. It was just to make it easier, but I do understand.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't want to put the necessary burden on the officer of the court.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ok. Thank you very much.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please stand, accused. Mr. Pistorius appears today in court after being served with a notice in terms of section 319 of the Criminal Procedure Act 51 of 1977. The appearance was necessitated by the ruling of the Supreme Court which ruling is now public knowledge and it's not necessary for me to mention it in this judgment. Since accused has now been convicted of a more serious crime which makes a threat and direct imprisonment sentence of 15 years or more if the court imposing sentence finds that there are no substantial and compelling circumstances, the court should look carefully at this application which has been brought by Mr. Pistorius.

[03:45:01] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was submitted that this bail application is

brought on behalf of Mr. Pistorius as a result of the agreement between the state and the defense. The state indicated to me that it is not opposing such an application mainly because of the agreement that the parties entered into. I want to make it clear that it is the duty of this court to decide whether bail should be granted or not, and also as to what conditions should be put if bail is to be granted. The applicant handed to the court an affidavit to support his application, which affidavit sets out his personal circumstances, the history of what happened after he appeared in court for the first time until now in respect of his appearances in court.

And the affidavit on page five thereof states that the bail is made on the basis that the application for bail is made on the basis of the bail be granted pending an application for leave to appeal to the personal court, and if leave were to be granted pending appeal, and if leave were to be unsuccessful or if the appeal were to be unsuccessful pending the imposition of sentence by the trial court. In the affidavit, the applicant further stated that he was instructed by his counsel that an agreement was entered into and he concerns to the restrictions that -- that his counsel and the state agreed upon.

It says applicant attended court. He has proved that he is not a flight risk. Initially, the applicant was charged with an offense mentioned in schedule six which offense attracts a sentence of life imprisonment, and even if he was facing life imprisonment, he did comply with the bail conditions that were put by the court. I have seriously considered part of the agreement between the defense and the state that the applicant should not leave the house at all should bail be granted and further considered that this is to be postponed until April next year as it was discussed in chambers.

I am of the view that it will not be in the interest of justice that the accused or the applicant should not leave the house at all. Having considered all the submissions that were made by both counsels, I make the following order. The case is postponed to the 18th of April 2016.

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The applicant is released on bail of 10,000 rand, an amount of bail to be paid on or before the 11th of December 2015 before 16 hours at the office of the registrar of this court. Further conditions are the following. One, the accused should appear at 9 o'clock at this court on the postponement date and every other date that may be presented to him. Two, that the accused submit to the house arrest and may leave the house between 7 o'clock in the morning and 12 o'clock midday and is only allowed to travel within the radius of 20 kilometers from the house, being house number 230 Lola Street, Pretoria, in the district of Houdon. Furthermore, the applicant should not leave the house without the written permission of the investigating officer, Major Mike who can be contacted on cell number 082-778-5604.

Accused is further -- accused further condition is that he should not leave the district of Swanum. Four, the accused must hand over all his passports to the investigating officer and may not apply for a passport or travel document until the conclusion of this matter. Five, the accused should submit himself to electronic monitoring to be monitored in terms of section 62F of the Criminal Procedure Act by Mr. Stalls, the probation officer in the Department of the Correctional Services.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: May I just inquire does the provision of the consent outside the hours 7 to 12?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you understand it likewise? Is there anything else for the day? Court adjourns.

CHURCH: All right, we have been listening there to the bail hearing of Oscar Pistorius in Pretoria. We heard some bail conditions set out by the judge there. He also said that this case was postponed to April 18th and that will be the date that Oscar Pistorius would be expected to appear. That is one of the conditions. Also, he said he must submit to house arrest. He can only leave the house between the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 1:2:00 p.m. and can only work within a 20 kilometer radius. He has an electronic device. The applicant will not leave the house without written permission. We'll have more details on this and have a live report for you when we come back. Do stay with us.

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BARNETT: All right, moments ago Oscar Pistorius was granted bail in a court in South Africa. The judge deciding to resume a hearing on April 18th of next year, we'll keep you posted on new information that comes out of this hearing today in the hours ahead.

CHURCH: All right. To another story we are following now, some sobering new numbers on the war in Syria and its impact on children. The continuing conflict has turned more than 2 million into refugees, that's according to a new report from Save the Children. They estimate that more than half of all Syrian refugees are less than 18 years old. Also, that one in four children inside Syria is at risk of developing a mental health disorder, 700,000 are not able to go to school. Many have missed out on at least three years of education and are growing up without basic math and literacy skills. Only three percent of humanitarian funding is spent on protecting Syria's children. Save the Children also spoke with Syrian refugee children in Lebanon.

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CHURCH: Health experts say the exposure to violence, stress and lack of resources are putting an entire generation of young people in jeopardy. And for more on their list, let's turn to Marta Passerissi, who is a Child Protection Technical Adviser with Save the Children in Lebanon. Thank you so much for talking with us. And of course, just going through all the statistics, there are so many reasons to be concerned there for the plight of these child refugees, particularly when we consider that half of them -- half of all of the refugees are children. What can be done to alleviate their suffering and to make their lives more bearable and to maybe somehow bring some education into their lives so this doesn't become a lost generation?

MARTA PASSERISSI, CHILD PROTECTION TECHNICAL ADVISER: Absolutely. I think there are many needs of children which have been affected by the Syria crisis have, Lebanon specifically. We're looking at multi- layered approaches, looking at child protection programs, which I work in, but also other services looking at shelter, education, and etcetera. I think what's -- specifically child protection and psychosocial protection which this report highlights, it's important to create stability by the children who have fled Syria and are now in prolonged displacement and facing very hard conditions after three years of being displaced in a foreign country with socioeconomic vulnerabilities increasing.

Looking at you know group-based programs, having a safe space where they can gain a sense of normalcy. But also the most vulnerable, the ones at high risk, providing individualized services, ensuring referral to appropriate providers and working with caregivers and the family to ensure there is a nurturing environment and ensuring that development needs are met for them in the long term.

CHURCH: Yeah, that -- all of that sounds wonderful if that can happen with all of these young children. It is such a challenge. Marta Passerissi, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it.

And thanks for watching CNN, I am Rosemary Church.

BARNETT: And I am Errol Barnett. We certainly covered a lot of ground today. Early Start is next for those of you in the U.S.

CHURCH: And for the rest of our viewers elsewhere, do stay tuned for more from CNN Newsroom.

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