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CNN/WMUR Poll: Trump Leads In N.H., Rubio Now Second; Kasich Nearly Tied For 3rd In N.H.; Barbara Bush" Jeb is "Everything We Need In A President!"; Classified Email Probe; Powell, Rice Aides Received Classified Info On Personal Email; Powell: Info Sent To Personal Email Was Not Classified; New Details On Murder Of 13-Year-Old Girl; TNT Caused Explosion On Somali Airliner; Florida Declares Zika Health Emergency; Giant Panda Plays Outside For First Time; New Hampshire's Oldest Voter; Sanders Widens Lead In New Hampshire

Aired February 4, 2016 - 21:00   ET



[21:00:13] ANDERSON COOPER, AC360 HOST: And welcome. We're live in Manchester, New Hampshire tonight, five days from the first primary of this presidential election.

A new CNN/WMUR tracking poll shows Donald Trump in the lead among likely Republican voters here in New Hampshire. Not letting up in the momentum, even adding extra events, including discussion with me at a restaurant today where voters got a chance to directly ask him questions.

That was more of an intimate setting. But he is also doing the big rallies here, including an event in Portsmouth this evening, a speech that's was more, shall we say, bleep worthy, than some of the others.


DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're going to start winning again. We're going to win on trade with these other countries that are ripping us off. We're going to win on healthcare. We're going to win with the military. We're going to knock the (inaudible) out of ISIS. Going to knock the (inaudible) out of them.

We're going to win on healthcare. We're going to win on every aspect. Everything we do. We're going to have so many victories. We just not going to -- we just can't fail anymore.

We don't have the option to fail anymore. We have a country that's a debtor nation and we don't have the option.

So, I just want to tell you, this is an important evening. This is a great group. I've done five of these today in different forms. Do you thinking this is fun? Do you think this is fun? I don't know.

I've had more meetings today. I've had great meetings though. I met with your police department in -- I've been-- what we're doing -- you like them, right? I met with police. I met with -- by the way, the police, they do such a great job. You talk -- and we have to honor our police.

OK. So, it's very important. February 9th, you got to get out and vote. Don't think we're going to win. Don't think we're going to win, just go out. You got to get out and vote. No matter where you are, no matter how you feel, I don't give a damn. You got to go out. You got to get out of bed. You got to vote.

We got to create a mandate. We have to create victory.


COOPER: All right, you may remember after he lost to Ted Cruz in Iowa, Trump said there should be a redo because the Cruz campaign gave voters false information that Carson dropped out today. Today, Trump told me he doesn't care about that anymore. He's all about New Hampshire and he has a schedule to back that up.

CNN's Political Reporter Sara Murray, reports.


SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: Donald Trump is kicking his campaign up a notch.

TRUMP: I have your votes, right? Do I have people's votes in here? Right?

MURRAY: Unwilling to let another victory slip from his grasp.

TRUMP: I'm actually starting to spend good money. And the reason is number one, I don't want to take a chance. OK. Number two, I don't want to bluff.

MURRAY: On top of spending on the air waves, today, Trump doubled his schedule from two events to four.

TRUMP: Got to do it. It's called crunch time, right?

MURRAY: But with just five days until New Hampshire, Trump's campaign schedule is still relatively light. Including today, Trump has just six events planned before the primary.

After losing Iowa, Trump, loads to admit mistake, acknowledged he could have built a more solid ground operation.

TRUMP: In retrospect, we could have done much better with the ground game.

MURRAY: In the day's end, he's made a point of stopping by his campaign offices to rally the troops.

TRUMP: I'll see you in a while, I'm going to stay here for a while.

MURRAY: One thing he's not doing, downplaying expectations. Making it clear he's playing to win in New Hampshire.

TRUMP: Definitely I like to win. I've been here a lot. I have great relationship with the people of New Hampshire. I love them.

MURRAY: A new CNN/WMUR poll shows, for now, Trump is well positioned. He leads in New Hampshire with 29 percent support from Republican primary voters compared to 18 percent for Marco Rubio, who's moved into second.

Meanwhile, Ted Cruz at 13 percent is nearly tied for third with John Kasich at 12 percent. Trump's position on top has Cruz, the Iowa victor, sharpening his knives.

TED CRUZ, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald Trump is very rattled right now. He told the entire world he was going to win Iowa. And then he didn't win.

MURRAY: And accusing Trump of being a sore loser after Iowa.

CRUZ: Or you could call it a "Trumpertantrums."

MURRAY: And after Jimmy Carter suggested, he would prefer a President Trump over Cruz. The Texas Senator turned that around on Trump as well.

CRUZ: Jimmy Carter said, the reason is simple, Donald's views, this is almost the quote, it's not quite verbatim but it's quote close. Donald's views are malleable. He has no core beliefs on anything.

MURRAY: But Trump's vowing to New Hampshire voters. One way or another, he's ending up on Pennsylvania Avenue.

TRUMP: No, seriously, who would want to leave the White House? Although I'm building a hotel right next door which is also located on Pennsylvania. But I'll still be on Pennsylvania Avenue one way or the other.


[21:05:08] COOPER: Sara joins me now from Portsmouth. How are people reacting to Trump's, you know, change in tactics, him making more face time there on the ground with the -- here, with New Hampshire voters?

MURRAY: Well it's interesting. It's really only the first day he's ramped up his scheduled vote. When I was talking to voters here, they said the biggest thing they can see Donald Trump doing that would help him in these next couple days. It's increasing his visibility in the state and taking the high road.

And I think that's exactly what we're seeing Trump doing. He's actually added more events for tomorrow, at least one in New Hampshire as well as his event that he has planned in South Carolina.

And tonight in his event he did not lay into Ted Cruz or into Marco Rubio. So it seems like he's taking a mix of this voter feedback. You know, we'll see how long the kind of friendlier Trump lasts though. Anderson.

COOPER: Sara Murray thanks. As I mentioned earlier guys I sat down with Trump at a restaurant, Theo's, here at Manchester, New Hampshire. He feel the questions not only from me but from voters, up close and personal. Something we haven't seen him do much of him so far I can tell you everybody in the restaurant who was there, I talked to most of them afterward or number them afterward.

They all said they liked seeing Trump even though sometimes he didn't give the specifics they had directly asked him for but they liked seeing him in that kind of a format. They really got a better sense of who he is. Take a look.


COOPER: You're doing more in New Hampshire, you're doing more smaller events. Your doing more events, I think you've got four or five already today ...

TRUMP: Yeah.

COOPER: ... events like this with kind of people up close, asking you questions. Is that a change in strategy? If so, why?

TRUMP: I don't think so. I just feel very comfortable up here and I love being here. And, you know, I have just been embraced, I have friends that have nice houses and they invite me over to dinner and they look anyway whether I was doing this or not. But there's a great level of comfort in New Hampshire for me.

COOPER: In this poll, Marco Rubio has also now jumped to second place. Do you think he's more big threat than Ted Cruz?

TRUMP: I don't know, I mean it could be somebody out of the pack. You know, I'm watching your stuff every night and I'm saying, wow who's going to be moving? I've been doing well. I guess in the polls we do pretty well. But I don't know who is second. I really don't -- are you saying that Rubio came in second now?

COOPER: Yes, he did. Came in second in it.

TRUMP: It was kind of fun because in Iowa, he was third, and I was second and they said he did fantastically well and me, they were so disappointed. I don't even know why they were disappointed because I got actually the most votes in the history of the Iowa caucus, you know, for the Republicans.

COOPER: For now.

TRUMP: And we had a huge turnout. And it was really a tremendous -- I mean I really, I must say, I really enjoyed Iowa. But this is -- there's a different feeling here. This is an amazing feeling with the people, with the crowds. You probably saw the crowd I had this morning was just incredible.

COOPER: How important is it for you to win here?

TRUMP: Well I'd love to win because I like to win. I mean my life is about winning, you know, I don't like to ... COOPER: I've heard that about you.

TRUMP: You know, your definition of win. When you come in second out of 11 people and actually 17 because we started off with 17. Many drop that, so let's say you're second out of 17. I mean, you know, I -- we would consider that good. But, no, I would love to be number one in New Hampshire. I think we'd send a great signal.


COOPER: Let's talk about all of this with CNN our Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger, Amanda Carpenter, CNN Political Commentator and former Communications Director for Senator Ted Cruz, Syndicate Columnist and National Contributor, Mona Charen who supports Marco Rubio and CNN Political Commentator and former Reagan White House Political Director Jeffrey Lord who supports Donald Trump.

In the fact Gloria that he is doing more retail politics, it certainly -- is probably a lesson learned from Iowa.


COOPER: He doesn't say it's directly related but it's hard to believe it's not.

BORGER: Oh sure and this is a guy who is trying to close the deal and he knows to close the deal here he's got to do more of this retail politics. I was kind of surprised at one of his rallies today though that you just showed on the air that he said, you think this is fun? When you're a candidate, it's a good idea to let the voters believe that you are actually enjoying yourself when you interact with that.

COOPER: Well which is actually at odds with what he said during that Donald in which is that he was enjoying it.

BORGER: It would kind of surprising to me. And he was sort this thing, you know, this is hard work. I met with the police guys. And I get, that's what's running for president is actually about.

COOPER: Yeah Mona and it was interesting when I asked Donald Trump today if he was going to go after Marco Rubio when you support in New Hampshire. He didn't really go down that road. Why wouldn't Trump try to slow Rubio down and could not be a strategic in the stake or is it kind of trying to take a high road and not seem so, I don't know what the word would be, but so directly taking on some of his competitors.

MONA CHAREN, MARCO RUBIO SUPPORTER: Right. So the concept of Donald Trump going down the high road is an interesting one. It's certainly a road that he's unfamiliar with. You know, this is the candidate who said I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot someone and I wouldn't lose any votes. Arguably, he did lose some votes after saying that. And so you do not know.

[21:10:03] His approach is so stream of consciousness. It's not to say he's not calculating as well. But you have a sense that spontaneously, he does let loose on people all the time. Today he may have been restrained regarding his competitors. But I would be very surprised if that lasts for more than 12 hours.

COOPER: Jeffrey, I mean, Trump told me today that he wants to move on from the desktop over Ted Cruz results in Iowa. Didn't really want to talk about it. Is that tell you something that the Trump campaign feels people have moved on?

JEFFREY LORD, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER: Oh, yeah. I mean, I think it's never wise to look back. You learn from whatever your experience is and then you move forward, always look forward. He's a forward looking guy.

I mean, the Donald Trump you talked to there and you certainly know him, and I know him, that's the Donald Trump that I have gotten to know. He is very smart. He's funny. He's charming. He -- when he talks for instance about deal making, he talks about it in context of dealing with principles. That's the Donald Trump that I have gotten to know and like and I think it was very clear in there in watching that interview, the body language, I could see, you know, people behind him nodding their head as he spoke.

CHAREN: This whole concept, though, of deal making being the essence of the presidency is completely misconceived. For example, his critique earlier this evening at that diner about the Iran deal, he was saying oh well the reason it was a bad deal is that we didn't get our hostages back. That is only the very, very smallest bad aspect of the deal.

What he didn't say and what a more experienced and more thorough and deep thinking candidate might have said, what a Cruz would say and certainly what a Rubio does say is that, this is the greatest sponsor of terror in the world. This is the nation that is a nightmare to get a nuclear weapon under any circumstances. And it was so much more than simply that we didn't get our hostages back.

COOPER: Amanda, what it -- go ahead.

LORD: But making deals Mona as we all know -- making deals is the essence of the presidency.

CHAREN: No it isn't.

LORD: Ronald Reagan make use all the time but he made them based on -- well he must certainly did Mona, what do you think ...


LORD: ... the arms agreements with Gorbachev work.

CHAREN: There aren't personal ...

LORD: That was a deal Mona, they walk and negotiate and then he walked away from the table ...

COOPER: One at a time. Mona responded and then I want to go to Amanda.

CHAREN: So Reagan's signal accomplishment in his dealing with the Soviet Union was to walk away from the bad deals. So that's the first thing. At Reykjavik, Reagan walked away rather than to make a bad deal.

LORD: To get a deal ...

CHAREN: OK, so we agree on that. But Trump's concept, this businessman idea that the presidency is all about making deals is completely wrong. The presidency is about leadership, it's about implementing the right policies. It is about cooperating with Congress. But the notion that he is going to be sitting across the table ...

LORD: For cooperating is deal making.

CHAREN: ... from those treacherous Chinese and Mexicans and Taiwanese and others and Canadians who are supposedly taking us to the cleaners all the time. The notion that that's the essence of the presidency is a very absurd position for a candidate.

COOPER: OK let me bring in Amanda. Amanda, let me bring you in here because I talked to Trump and we're going to play more of this I think tomorrow. I don't think we've played that bit tonight, but about how he would change once he is in office. And I did ask him, which we played in the last hour, whether he thought compromise was a dirty word which he said he didn't.

Then I asked him whether or not, you know, that there is concern among conservatives, some conservatives that he doesn't stand on principles enough. But he's too willing perhaps to compromise, to get a deal.

That's certainly something I think Ted Cruz has probably hammered him on. And I'm wondering how effective a weapon that is by Cruz against Trump. How powerful that knock against Trump, he is among conservatives.

AMANDA CARPENTER, FMR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR TED CRUZ: Oh very effective. We've seen some ad come out demonstrating that's been very effective. But more broadly to the point of the interview and thrust of these questions, the new personality that he's kind of unveiling now in hopes of doing better in New Hampshire get to the fundamental problem of Donald Trump.

You never know who you're going to get. Is he going to be nice guy? Is going to be this guy that yells and screams at you? You never know. We don't know where he is on policy positions. We don't know where he is on temperament. And so this new Donald Trump we're seeing should give, while it is welcome, while I like this new positive attitude, sort of underscores the fundamental problem with his personality.

COOPER: It's interesting, Gloria though. I mean again, talking to people in that diner afterwards, they liked seeing this Donald Trump.


COOPER: They enjoyed him, they found him personable, they found him -- they said it's so much different than what you see in these big rallies. Even though who said he didn't answer the question, he didn't have enough specifics, but they genuinely like the person they met.

[21:15:02] BORGER: Right and they're eventually they're going to get to the specifics. I have a theory about businessmen who runs for President and it sort of applied to Mitt Romney, which is and I think it might apply to Donald Trump. I don't know yet.

But businessmen want to get the deal done. They want to negotiate, and they come at it from a position of, what do I need to do to get the deal done? What do I need to do in New Hampshire to win here? Well, I need to have retail politics.

Voters in presidential elections want to know what you believe. They don't want to know that you can finally cut a deal.

And so, politicians who run on belief in presidential campaigns, very clear set of beliefs generally do better than businessmen who at the outset say, you know, I know how to negotiate.

And I think Romney had that problem to a degree, and I think Donald Trump could end up having that problem.

COOPER: Jeffrey, do you see them and you're supported of Trump you're a conservative. Do you see that as a problem that he's not, you know, has core ideals that he will stand to no matter what even if it means not making a compromise, not making a deal?

LORD: Sure. Sure. Sure. I mean, this is how he built his business. I mean, he does have core principles. I mean, his business he certainly has core principles.

And he negotiates and you get to the end. And again, as I say, this is, to me, at least, well, obviously not to Mona and some of the other folks here, but to me, this is exactly what Ronald Reagan was.

Ronald Reagan was a labor and negotiator. He was a union president. He did exactly the same kind of thing that Donald Trump has been doing in his career and he did it the same way.

And, you know, he would deal with Tip O'Neill, he would deal with all these people.

Sometimes, Ronald Reagan got bad deals. He got a bad deal on the temperate tax and raising that, he listened to Bob Dole and thought he was going to get one thing and he got another and he regretted it.

So, sometimes, you know, you can make mistakes, but you do have to make deals. That's what the constitution is all about. You've got the separation of powers and the president, the Congress have got to sit down and come to agreement.

The question is, what direction do you take them in?

CARPENTER: Yeah. But I will say the big question with Donald Trump is where is his moral compass? We all recognize that he was a very successful business leader and he knows how to make deals to benefit the bottom line and grow his wealth.

But, when it comes to, you know, the bailouts and how that works outs for the taxpayers or why he changed his position on abortion and the stimulus.

I don't know what his guiding principles are when applied to government. He's never fully explained that to his detriment.

CHAREN: Nor does he seem to have the character and temperament for a leader of the free world.

This is someone who has been really vulgar and disgusting in his descriptions of women, commenting on their appearance constantly.

This is someone who's made fun of a handicapped person, someone who has made really very inappropriate kinds of comments.

That is not the kind of temperament that you look for. And if you're worried about policy as Amanda says, you might want to be thinking about the Supreme Court. The next president is very likely to be able to appoint a number, members of the Supreme Court and Donald Trump has said that he thinks his sister would be a fantastic justice.

His sister is the justice who has overturned a ban on partial birth abortion. So, that is -- and is well, you know, liberal justice. So, something for voters to think about.


LORD: John Roberts would make an excellent Chief Justice and, you know, we got ObamaCare as a result.

CHAREN: Well, John Roberts has been excellent in many respects. That was an outlier.

COOPER: I want to thank everybody.

Just ahead, my interview with John Kasich. He's told me why he's committed to running a positive campaign even as the stakes gets higher for him.


[21:22:26] COOPER: Just five days until New Hampshire's primary. Time is running out on the campaign trail.

John Kasich has been logging serious miles across the Granite State. He's now close to 100 town halls. His efforts may be paying off. As we said, he's nearly tied with Ted Cruz for third place in a new CNN/WMUR poll out tonight.

Donald Trump is leading. Marco Rubio in second place.

I spoke to Governor Kasich a short time ago, just after he wrapped up another town hall.


COOPER: Governor Kasich, how are you feeling about where you are? In the latest CNN poll just came out today, you're statistically tied in third place. How does it feel out there on the road?

JOHN KASICH, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think we're actually doing a little better than that, Anderson. I think we're really in second place.

And the reason I know it is because there have been millions of dollars and ads spent against me both on the air and in people's mailboxes. They put all this stuff in there.

And the reason why I feel so good is our message is positive, which is different than everybody else's, that we have a ground game second to none. And by the end of business tomorrow, I will have done 100 town hall meetings.

So what's interesting about this is, we will see if somebody who can stay positive and present their image or their vision of what we should do as a country can win. And I think we're going to do very well getting out of here, and it will be a new day, a new chapter. And people will study it.

COOPER: What's the message you're hammering home here in New Hampshire?

KASICH: Well, together we can solve problems, that we're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. And that there are answers to these very serious problems of things like the problem of wage growth, income inequality, can we create more jobs, what do we do about social security, what do we do about student debt?

What I tell people is if we get out of our own way and become Americans and rather thinking about our political party or corner or who cheers the loudest, we can solve problems. And together we can boost the American spirit and we can be back on firm ground again.

And I have to tell you, everywhere I go, people very much like this message, Anderson.

COOPER: It's interesting you talk about doing 100 town halls. We now see Donald Trump in these days doing smaller, you know, retail events in New Hampshire. Obviously something you've been doing now for months, spending a lot of time here.

What do you make it the fact that Trump is now campaigning on that scale?

KASICH: Well, I've always believed that the town halls work because what happens in a town hall, unlike a debate, you know, where you get like a second to explain the history of the world and people can't see who you are.

[21:25:00] In the town halls, they poke you, they question you, they want to know what you're made of.

Because, you know, frankly in American politics, most people don't compare one tax plan against another, but the issues give people a chance to describe who they are. And so the people here really look at you carefully and they really make an assessment. Are you the type of leader that can help this country to climb out of a sort of dulled spirit in America?

And I think that that's the ticket. And you know, that's why I've done like 100 of them and, you know, that the problem with Iowa is it was so big you couldn't really do that. It was a lot of advertising, but in New Hampshire was 1.3 million people, people very informed.

I mean you get every question you can imagine Anderson and I love it. And I'm having the time of my life. People are laughing and some are crying and we are providing information. It's been an incredible experience.

COOPER: There's obviously a lot of candidates who are right now running behind you. Governor Christie, Jeb Bush, looking at you, looking to try to take your place and certainly even do better. Governor Christie has said that he quote, "You're not built for these times". What does that mean to you? How do you respond to that?

KASICH: I have no idea what he means. I have no clue. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not getting into, you know, I'm not going down a rabbit hole with anybody. I don't understand what that would even mean.

COOPER: In terms of moving on from here, where do you feel you need to place?

KASICH: Well, we're going to go everywhere, Anderson. Really we already got people on the ground in Nevada or in Nevada, we got them in the ground in South Carolina. We're building out in the South in Michigan and Illinois. Anderson, this is not the end of it. We're going to move forward.

In fact, the couple of days ago I met with my staff to talk about the schedule going south. So we are very optimistic about being able to leave here on a high note. Get to the south, compete in all these states and let me just say this. We're going to do very well in Mississippi and Alabama. But wait until we get to the Midwest. Right a way get to Illinois and Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania. Fasten your seat belt, Anderson.

COOPER: Is there -- there's not a bar you feel you need to reach here in New Hampshire in order to be able to continue on, I mean just in terms of fund-raising?

KASICH: Well, look, I mean we -- well our fund-raising is good. We'll have a new ad on tomorrow that I think will be very good. And we are ready. We got -- you know, when it comes to fund-raising, oh yeah we're working on that going beyond New Hampshire. We believe we have the resources we need here but, you know, we're also building the resources for the future. In other words, this is a campaign that's built to last.

It's always been a campaign that's been underestimated. People didn't think I'd get in. They didn't think I'd make the debates, they didn't think I get to New Hampshire. And it's all happening because we're kind of like the little engine that can.

COOPER: It's always good to talk to you, sir. Thank you.

KASICH: Thank you, sir.


COOPER: Governor John Kasich. Just ahead, Jeb Bush pulled out a secret weapon tonight, his mom, Barbara Bush at 90 years old, she's as popular as ever. More on that ahead.


[21:32:08] COOPER: Well, they said that Jeb Bush needs a strong show in New Hampshire next Tuesday. It doesn't begin to capture (ph). He started the race as the presumed front-runner, the establishment favorite, new in the clips by Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, with Marco Rubio are now getting traction.

The new CNN/WMUR poll out tonight has Mr. Bush in fifth place at 10 percent. That's a four-point gain. He's been campaigning heavily here in New Hampshire. We should point out.

Tonight he brought new firepower to the battle. His 90-year-old mom Barbara Bush who introduced him at a Town Hall in Derry.


BARBARA BUSH, FMR FIRST LADY: I didn't really plan on this, but Jeb is the nicest, wisest, most caring, loyal, disciplined -- that's good. Not by me. But he's not a bragger. We don't allow that. But he's decent and honest. He's everything we need in a president. His dad and I are very, very proud of him.

Ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States, Jeb Bush.

JEB BUSH, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thank you, mama. Thank you all. Thank you. You can sit. Everybody can sit. Thank you all very much.

Wow. Mom, my crowd sizes normally aren't this large. I wonder why. It is a -- it is such a joy to be with friends. To be with my mother who I adore, who is an inspiration. I cannot tell you in the probably 90 versions of town hall meetings I've done all across the state, how many times people came up and said, "Your mother, I love your mother. I love your mother." Just over and over again. She's not as great as everybody thinks she is. I can just tell you that. I jokingly say that when we were growing up in Midland and Houston, that mom was fortunate not to have a child abuse hotline available because the discipline of learning right and wrong was her doing.

My dad was this perfect idyllic man who to this day is the greatest man alive.

[21:35:03] But she was the one that taught us right and wrong. I can promise you that. And it's worked out pretty good. All the mistakes I've made have been my own doing.


COOPER: CNN's Phil Mattingly, joins us now. Phil, we just saw that Barbara Bush speaking at her son's event. I mean, how did the crowd react to her being there?

PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, right now, if you look behind me, the Jeb Bush advance staff is wrapping things up. If you get a sense of the room, it was standing room only, people actually waiting outside to get in. Not enough parking spots to fill up.

Jeb Bush hinting at what's very real here according to the stuff we just spoke with at this event.

There were two to three times the normal crowd here tonight, a lot of nostalgia. So, a couple of Reagan, Bush, 84 shirts walking around.

But also, Anderson a recognition of what Barbara Bush brings to the table of what the Bush family brings to the table up in New Hampshire.

And I think an urgency being shown by the campaign here. You mentioned Jeb Bush, fifth in the latest CNN/WMUR poll but really kind of fluid in that second tier of candidates.

The campaign ready to poll out all the stuffs, one key number they're looking at inside that poll, Anderson, 60 percent of likely Republican voters in New Hampshire are not firmly decided on a single candidate yet.

Barbara Bush helping that final push by the Bush campaign to try and sway some voters hoping for that big breakout moment that they really need if they want their campaign to catch fire after New Hampshire, Anderson.

COOPER: And George W. Bush made his first appearance in a Super PAC ad for Jeb today, right?

MATTINGLY: Yeah, that's right Anderson. We've heard that this weekend, the Super PAC ad will start running with George W. Bush as the voiceover to that ad.

And one of the big questions has been, "When is George W. Bush going to come out on the campaign trail?" Now, campaign sources said, they've been playing around with this for a while. They're pretty coy about when it's going to happen.

But, all the signs are pointing to South Carolina. So, obviously, Jeb Bush first needs to take care of business here in New Hampshire. But the expectation is George W. Bush where he's very, very popular still according to polling will likely hit the trail in South Carolina.

But as I just said Anderson, first, Jeb Bush has to take care of business here. Barbara Bush giving him that big push this evening, Anderson.

COOPER: Phil Mattingly, thanks the reporting. Appreciate it. Gloria Borger is back with me, you were at that event earlier ...

BORGER: ... I was. And it was standing room only. And ...

COOPER: How much of a Bush do you think Barbara Bush, even George W. Bush out on the field could give Jeb Bush?

BORGER: When the dynasty works for you, use it. And in New Hampshire, the Bushes are popular.

And so, Barbara Bush is very popular. And I think his father could have been here, he probably would have been here, too.

I think you use your brother, W. in South Carolina. Lindsey Graham made it very clear when he endorsed Jeb, "I want W. in South Carolina.

And so, I think you're going to see Bush 43 there for his brother. And so, tonight was all about saying my name is not just Jeb, but it's actually Jeb Bush which is definitely something here, right.

COOPER: It's so interesting given an early on kind of his confusion over exactly what to say about Iraq, what to say about his brother.

BORGER: Yeah, there was. And I think it's kind of come full circle here because his family has a place in Kennebunkport. This is kind of home turf for them. They're popular, well liked.

And I think it's comfortable for him here. Answering questions about Iraq and his brother, not so much and that could hurt in a general. But, right now, he's just trying to get through this primary and place in the top three.

COOPER: Also it's interesting, I mean, Barbara Bush earlier on, I think said at one point, you know, the country had had enough of Bushes but, clearly has walked that back.

BORGER: She clearly has walked that back. Although, when she got out there tonight and the first thing she said about Jeb was that he was nice. I thought, is that what people are actually looking for in a president right now? Somebody who is nice? I'm not quite so sure.

COOPER: George Bush Sr. run his first primary campaign way back here, didn't he? BORGER: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think the Bushes are popular ...

COOPER: Right.

BORGER: ... well-known here. And I think, you know, Bush wants to get big crowds now. He wants to get coverage. And she brought him the coverage he wanted.

COOPER: Yeah. (Inaudible), I kind of wish I'm right there, was there. It would have been incredible shot there.

BORGER: It was great. It was great, great to see her.

COOPER: Gloria Borger, great to have you. Thanks very much.

BORGER: Thank you.

COOPER: Just ahead, what a new government report means for the controversy over Hillary Clinton's use of personal e-mail when she was Secretary of State that have.


[21:43:27] COOPER: New information tonight related to an issue that's hounded Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail, her use of personal e- mail while serving as Secretary of State.

Some of the information she receives only recently been re- characterized as classified. It turns out the same thing has happened to others, that's according to a new report from the state department investigator.

CNN Justice Reporter, Evan Perez joins me now. So, what are you learning about this new report?

EVAN PEREZ, CNN JUSTICE REPORTER: Well, Anderson, we're talking about two e-mails that are now deemed classified that former secretary of State Colin Powell received on his personal e-mail and 10 classified e-mails were received by close aides to Condoleezza Rice when she was Secretary of State.

Now, these were uncovered by the State Departments Internal Watchdog which has been reviewing the e-mail practices of the past five Secretaries of State.

And of course, this reveal began last year after Hillary Clinton revealed that she'd set up a private e-mail server. So, not surprisingly, this has been met at the Clinton campaign as a hard moment.

They think that this is a revelation that's Bolsters what she's been saying all along that she isn't the only official with classified information in her private e-mail. But we should point out that Powell and Rice didn't have their own computer servers to do all of their government work, Anderson.

COOPER: So, have Powell or Rice responded?

PEREZ: Well, both have responded, and both are disputing this inspector general's report. Powell says that the two e-mails were messages that were sent by U.S. Ambassadors to his staff and were passed along to him.

And he says that he has reviewed these messages.

We have a statement from him. He says that, what he looks at when he looks at these e-mails, he doesn't see what makes them classified and certainly not a dozen years later.

[21:45:06] Rice's staff at Stanford University where she now teaches, says that she never used e-mails at all and that there was no intelligence information in diplomatic messages that were sent to her staff, Anderson.

COOPER: All right. Evan, thanks.

Let's get the latest on some of the other stories we're following. Amara Walker has the 360 Bulletin. Amara.

AMARA WALKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, a judge has denied bail for Natalie Kiefer. A Virginia tech student accused of being an accessory to murder in the death of a 13 year old girl.

Prosecutors said in court today that Kiefer and David Eisenhower who's charged with the murder plotted the attack in how to dispose of the body.

The victim was a seventh grader, Nicole Lovell. According to a Law Enforcement Official, Investigators believe she planned to expose an inappropriate relationship with Eisenhower.

A military grade of TNT caused this week's explosion on a Somali Airliner. That's according to a source close, familiar with the investigation. One person was killed and at least two others injured in the attack.

Florida's governor has declared a health emergency in five counties due to the Zika virus. Twelve cases of been mosquito born illness had been detected at the states.

All 12 traveled to Latin America and the Caribbean where the virus has been spreading.

And Bei Bei, the newest panda at Smithsonian's National Zoo ventured outside for the first time today with his mom. It looks like the 5 month old cub had a great time. Anderson.

COOPER: Amara, thanks very much.

Just ahead, a voter in New Hampshire who has pretty much seen it all in politics. She's over 100 years old. We'll hear her thoughts on this year's election and her favorite president ever.


[21:50:36] COOPER: Well pundits and politicians alike have said this campaign season is like no other. But none of them have seen as much as one voter in New Hampshire has. As age brings wisdom, she's wiser than all of us.

Gary Tuchman, matter he joins me now. So, how did you hear about this woman's story?

GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I had a couple of very nice people here in New Hampshire come up to me and say, "If you want to hear some wisdom about politics over the last century, you need to meet and talk to Mimi," with some meaning.

So today is the day we met and talk to Mimi.


TUCHMAN: There is nobody in the state of New Hampshire who has been around from more New Hampshire primaries than Clarina Hudon.

She is believed to be the oldest person in the state. Clarina, whose nickname is Mimi is 110 years old.

It's nice to meet, very nice to meet you.


TUCHMAN: Mimi was one of 16 children. She moved to New Hampshire from Quebec when she was a child.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's up? Good job.

TUCHMAN: Today, Mimi, who speaks English and French, lives in a nursing home and is regularly visited by three generations.

Politics was an important topic of discussion in her family while she was growing up. She can't hear well, so we wrote some questions to her starting with who is her favorite American president.

HUDON: Just now?

TUCHMAN: Your whole life.

HUDON: President Roosevelt.

TUCHMAN: President Roosevelt was your favorite president? Teddy Roosevelt or Franklin Roosevelt? Because you were born when Teddy Roosevelt was the president.

HUDON: I like both.

TUCHMAN: You like both, Teddy and Franklin.

Mimi had one child, Ruth, who is now 81.


TUCHMAN: This is Ruth with Mimi back in the day. Ruth is now married with two children of her own.

She says her father, Mimi's late husband, insisted everyone vote for Democrats.

TUCHMAN: Your mother, as far as you know, always voted for the Democratic candidate.

HARWOOD: Oh yes, that was in.

TUCHMAN: Every election.

HARWOOD: Every election.

TUCHMAN: From 1928 on, the Democrat.


TUCHMAN: Mimi voted for Democrat Al Smith that year. Republican Herbert Hoover won.

Are there any presidents you did not like?

HUDON: President that did not like.

No, I like to be -- almost the president.

TUCHMAN: You like almost all the presidents.

HUDON: Yeah.

TUCHMAN: But who does she like now in 2016? As we expected, she said it would be a Democrat. Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders?

HUDON: I didn't know this man.

TUCHMAN: You don't know Bernie Sanders? OK.

HUDON: Well, I'm going to take Hillary Clinton. I know her.

TUCHMAN: You know Hillary Clinton.

HUDON: Yeah, OK.

TUCHMAN: So she is your woman. But you don't know Bernie Sanders.

HUDON: That's all I know.

TUCHMAN: OK. I'm not going to argue with you, Mimi. I'm not going to argue with you.

Mimi has had her share of medical issues. When she was 101, she broke her hip while visiting her 103-year-old brother in a different nursing home. He has since passed away. Her medical condition has made it hard to vote in elections. And she doesn't do absentee ballots. But she will be interested to see who wins on Tuesday.

Before we said goodbye we asked Mimi about the secret to a long life. She said it has to do with food.

HUDON: When I'm hungry, I eat the best I can. Yeah, that's all.

TUCHMAN: That's all.

And then, she went off for a delicious lunch, the most senior of senior citizens in New Hampshire.


COOPER: Does her family also support Hillary Clinton?

TUCHMAN: Well that's what's interesting. The answer is no. Her daughter and her son-in-law, they say they are supporting Carly Fiorina. And her grandson and granddaughter who were there with us, they both support Donald Trump but nobody argues with Mimi.

COOPER: All right, so good to see you, Gary, thanks very much. Good to see you on the broadcast tonight. There's a lot ahead. We'll be right back.


[21:58:43] COOPER: A recap from the latest CNN/WMUR poll that just came out tonight, five days ahead of the New Hampshire primary. Trump is leading with 29 percent among likely Republican voter. Rubio is in second with 18, Cruz in third with 13. There's nearly 7 percent margin of error of course in the poll.

And on the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders has 61 percent to Hillary Clinton's 30 percent. Again, this poll's margin of error is also pretty big, 6.5 percent.

Tomorrow night on "360", we'll have more on my interview with Donald Trump. Voters asking him questions directly at the Theo's restaurant in Manchester, New Hampshire. It's a fascinating discussion and more casual setting than we often see him in. The voters asked him some great questions.

Again, more of that interview with Trump tomorrow.

And that's it for us tonight. Thanks for watching.

"CNN Tonight" with Don Lemon starts now.

DON LEMON, CNN TONIGHT HOST: Just five days to go until the New Hampshire primary. Donald Trump's toping our brand new poll and starting things up, there tonight.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: And by the way, I'm number one in New Hampshire. Will you please keep me there? This is ridiculous, ridiculous.


LEMON: This is CNN Tonight. I'm Don Lemon.

You saw a whole different side of Donald Trump as he sat down with a room full real life voters and our very own Anderson Cooper.

[22:00:00] But there's more to the story and Anderson is here with that, of course.

Plus, the GOP at war at itself, Trump versus Cruz, Bush and Christie versus Rubio. Is there any way to run a campaign? And who will end up on top?