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[19:00:09] ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: OUTFRONT next, Hillary Clinton unleashing a blistering attack on Donald Trump calling him unprepared. Unfit to be president, Trump returning fire tonight.

And Trump's words coming back to haunt him. Wait until you hear what he says about working women tonight.

And prosecutors looking into who is to blame for that little boy getting into that gorilla pen. Could the parents face charges? Let's go OUTFRONT.

Good evening. I'm Erin Burnett. OUTFRONT tonight, unfit to be president. It's Hillary Clinton's harshest attack on Donald Trump yet in a major foreign policy speech, Clinton calling Trump dangerous, unprepared, saying he has no business being anywhere near nuclear codes. Clinton was laser-focused on her opponent, tearing into him one sentence after another, making the case that voters cannot put the safety of their children into his hands.


HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald Trump's ideas aren't just different. They are dangerously incoherent. They're not even really ideas. Just a series of bizarre rants. Personal feuds and outright lies. He is not just unprepared. He is temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability and immense responsibility.



BURNETT: Trump firing back even as Clinton was still delivering that speech. He did so on Twitter. Writing, "Bad performance by crooked Hillary Clinton, reading poorly from the teleprompter! She doesn't even look presidential!" The ferocious nature of the attacks by both candidates almost unprecedented and to add to the drama, the House Speaker Paul Ryan today coming out in the middle of the speech announcing his long-awaited endorsement of Donald Trump saying he is going to vote for him. This came as I said while Hillary Clinton was giving her big speech. Jim Acosta is traveling with the Trump campaign in San Jose. Trump is

set to speak shortly there, no doubt going to respond to this diatribe, this blistering diatribe by Hillary Clinton. Jim, what are we going to hear from Trump tonight?

JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Erin, I think we can expect to hear some pretty tough counterpunches from Donald Trump at this rally here in San Jose later on this evening. It does not get more personal than it got earlier today with Hillary Clinton said that Donald Trump should be let nowhere near the nuclear codes. And of course as you mentioned, Trump was live tweeting her speech, saying at one point she didn't even look presidential, reading off the teleprompter. And at another point, tweeting that her administration would be another four years of incompetence following the administration of President Obama.

Now, Trump, as you mentioned, did benefit from some other counter programming, beyond his own live tweeting. And that is that endorsement, that announcement of support from House Speaker Paul Ryan, which conspicuously came down as Hillary Clinton was delivering that foreign policy speech. Now, I'm told by a source close to Ryan that there was no negotiation going on between Donald Trump and Paul Ryan for this endorsement. That basically the speaker decided he was going to throw his support behind the presumptive GOP nomination after their various conversations and once he got comfortable in doing so, and a source close to Paul Ryan tells CNN that the Speaker actually arrived at this decision earlier this week.

But Erin, it does now eliminate the prospect of that both halves of last -- of last four years' GOP ticket from four years ago, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan won't be supporting Donald Trump. We know Mitt Romney is not going to support Donald Trump, but Paul Ryan removed -- or eliminated any possibility of that with his announcement earlier today. But yes, I would think no question about it. When you heard Hillary Clinton go after Donald Trump in the way she did earlier today, really unlike we have had during the course of this campaign, Donald Trump I think it's pretty safe to say, will be responding in kind later on this evening -- Erin.

BURNETT: Which obviously is going to up the anti-even more. The big question, of course is, with Hillary Clinton making this for her very significant speech today, will it have an impact? What difference will it make?

Jim Sciutto is OUTFRONT.


JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Tonight, Hillary Clinton highlighting her vast diplomatic experience while painting Donald Trump as unfit, incapable and dangerous.

CLINTON: It's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin.

SCIUTTO: Her argument, that leadership requires consistency and prudence in contrast to Donald Trump's brash stance.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We must, as a nation, be more unpredictable.

SCIUTTO: Today Secretary Clinton pointing out the stark differences between the two on virtually every facet of U.S. foreign and National Security policy.

CLINTON: This is someone who has threatened to abandon our allies in NATO, the countries that work with us to root out terrorists abroad before they strike us at home.

TRUMP: NATO is obsolete. It was 67 years or it's over 60 years old.

[19:05:20] HILLARY: His proposal to ban 1.5 billion Muslims from even coming to our country doesn't just violate the religious freedom our country was founded on. It's a huge propaganda victory for ISIS.

TRUMP: Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States. Until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.

HILLARY: And it's no small thing when he suggests that America should withdraw our military support for Japan. Encourage them to get nuclear weapons. And he said this.

TRUMP: So North Korea has nukes. Japan has a big problem with that. I mean, they have a big problem with that. Maybe they would, in fact, be better off if they defend themselves from North Korea.


TRUMP: Including with nukes.

HILLARY: I wonder if he even realizes he's talking about nuclear war.

TRUMP: I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me.

CLINTON: He says he doesn't have to our generals or admirals, our ambassadors and other high officials, because he has, quote, "a very good brain."



SCIUTTO: Secretary Clinton also touting her deep foreign policy experience. For instance, negotiating climate change agreement with China, the Iranian nuclear deal arms reduction treaties with Russia. Of course, the danger there is that Donald Trump supporters, some critics, even her own party will see that as ammunition rather than strength for her ticket there. It's going to be a long race, particularly on this issue -- Erin.

BURNETT: Thank you very much. Jim Sciutto. And OUTFRONT now, political commentator Amanda Carpenter, Trump

supporter Jason Osborne, Clinton supporter Basil Smikle. And David Gergen who served as advisor to four presidents.

Thanks to all. David, did Hillary Clinton make a convincing case today? This was a very big day for her. On that stage, with a very formal, very prepared speech that went line after line for Donald Trump.

DAVID GERGEN, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL ADVISER: I think she made it a very convincing speech to her supporters. I think the most important thing to come out of this tonight was a lot of her supporters were getting down trodden and they were excited. She fired them up with this speech today. This was a Hillary Clinton they have been waiting for. They haven't seen. And there are a lot of journalists out there tonight saying, best speech she's ever given, one of the most effective. Whether it will make a difference on Tuesday, I think is a big question. Tuesday is a California primary.


GERGEN: If she goes on to lose the California primary, a lot of this is going to be washed away. We're going to have a big story about how she has been wounded. I must tell you, I thought the speech was terrific. I did question the day -- I was surprised she wasn't out barnstorming this weekend with Jerry Brown all across California. Get all those Democrats out there and Beat Bernie Sanders.

BURNETT: Do this later. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

GERGEN: Yes. Take five or six points off Bernie Sanders and then go sailing into the convention.

BURNETT: So, Jason, one theme that she kept pushing into this, and as David pointing out, line after line, this was about Donald Trump and how he is unfit, unqualified, in her mind, to be president. She pushed his lack of real-world experience. And she did it again and again. Here she is.


CLINTON: This isn't reality television. This is actual reality. You know, there's no risk of people losing their lives if you blow up a golf course deal.


But it doesn't work like that in world affairs. Just like being interviewed on the same episode of "60 Minutes," as Putin was. Is not the same thing as actually dealing with Putin.


BURNETT: Does she have a point?

JASON OSBORNE, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER: No. You know, it's ironic that she is sitting there and talking about losing lives, you know, comparing what Donald Trump has done with golf courses to losing lives, when we have Benghazi. And we have situations in Libya. And we have situations in Syria. Where there's been a colossal failure every step of the way with Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. What Donald Trump -- and what Hillary Clinton is failing to recognize is that what Donald Trump is saying is what the average voter out there is feeling.

When he talks about banning Muslims from coming in temporarily until we as a government can figure out what's going wrong, and letting these people in, I think that's a legitimate case to be made. When the last six months, when I was out with Dr. Carson, every person that we would see would say, what is going on, why are these people allowed to come into our country. Something has to be done to stop that flow.

BURNETT: But here's the question. Amanda, when Donald Trump came out and responded, it was in tweet form. He's going to speak later tonight. But the tweets were not about substance. They were not anything that she said. They were not about policy. They were about the fact that she read poorly from the teleprompter, in his view. Which, by the way, he didn't read very well from the teleprompter when he gave his foreign policy speech which was one of the few times that he read from the teleprompter. So --

[19:10:09] AMANDA CARPENTER, FORMER COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR SEN. TED CRUZ: Yes. And the points Jason brought up are more substantive response to Hillary Clinton than what Donald Trump did. I was sort of shocked, even, you know, watching Donald Trump all this time to hear him say -- or tweet, rather, she doesn't look presidential. Hillary Clinton gave a substantive speech, hitting Donald Trump on line after line, on both temperament and policy. And he says you don't look presidential?

You know, I don't think he was talking about the teleprompter. I think he was talking about the way she was dressed. You know, Donald Trump comes out and he always has the suit, the red tie. She was wearing something a little different. So, very professional. I think he's tweaking those buttons to try to get that going, because he wants to have the fight about the gender card.

BASIL SMIKLE, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER: Listen, going back to a point that you made earlier. I know that you said that Donald Trump is speaking to what the average American or what some Americans are actually saying. And I actually really do take issue with that. In part, because I think it's appropriate for a leader, someone that wants to be president of the United States, to govern to people's aspirations, not their fears.

And I think in the Hillary Clinton speech that you heard today, she was persuasive, she was commanding, she sounded like a commander-in- chief that I think a lot of folks, whether they have heard her in other instances or not, one of the best speeches I've heard her make. She sounds like commander-in-chief. And I think what you're going to see from Donald Trump are -- it just the continued bullying that he has gotten really good at. But I have to wonder if Americans are not going to get tired of that very quickly.

OSBORNE: I would agree with you in one sense, in the sense that, you know, playing to their fears. I think there is a problem that we have with politicians and people running for office that they don't acknowledge what the average voter is thinking. And that's what Donald Trump is doing. So in a campaign like this --

BURNETT: But is there a way to acknowledge without --

OSBORNE: It's a process. I think it's -- look, I know what you're thinking. I know what you're feeling. And now the next step is, this is how I would deal with that situation. And, you know, I think he is starting to lay out those plans and saying, he didn't have to in the primary. But he had to acknowledge that this is -- these are the problems with America right now. And this is what we need to, you know --


GERGEN: One point I think it -- might get lost. Hillary Clinton showed one of her advantages in the campaign today. And that is, she has a much stronger team behind her, helping her, than he does.

BURNETT: Well-written, nuanced speech.

GERGEN: Well-written, nuanced speech. Jake Sullivan who is top foreign policy adviser, a real rising star in American foreign policy. You know, helped her with the speech. But, you know, he's a deal- maker and as someone -- a business person pointed out to me tonight, you know, deal-makers by nature don't have big staff. They do it themselves, they have a few people, you know (INAUDIBLE) and that sort of thing. But business people have to have big teams and he's not used to having big teams.


GERGEN: And I think he's sort of winging it. And I think she showed today, it helps to have people behind you who can come out with -- really well-done -- well-crafted speeches like this.

BURNETT: All right. Thanks to all. And next, breaking news. A new pro-Trump Super PAC formed today. Just how much did it raise in just a few hours. All the breaking details. Later on this hour OUTFRONT. And the UCLA shooter.

Plus, the UCLA shooter had a kill list. New details tonight about a woman found dead in Minnesota, who was on that list. Who else is on that list and how Trump really feels about a woman's role.


TRUMP: I don't want to sound too much like a chauvinist. But when I come home and dinner is not ready, I go through the roof.



[19:17:23] BURNETT: Tonight, revealing words from Donald Trump on what he really thinks about women.

Miguel Marquez is OUTFRONT.


TRUMP: I think that putting a wife to work is a very dangerous thing.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump and his views on women in the spotlight again.

TRUMP: I have days where if I come home and, you know, I don't want to sound too much like a chauvinist. But when I come home and dinner is not ready, I go through the roof, okay?

MARQUEZ: In this 1994 interview with ABC's prime time live, Trump talks about what he likes in a woman and what broke up his first marriage.

TRUMP: If you're in business for yourself, I really think it's a bad idea to put your wife working for you. I think it's a really bad idea. I think that was the single greatest cause of what happened to my marriage with Ivana.

MARQUEZ: Trump says he has hired women for top positions in his real estate empire. But when it comes to home life, there is this from 2005.

TRUMP: It's like my mother and father, were married 63 years. I've always heard you have to work at a good relationship. My father didn't work at a good relationship. He went home, he had dinner, he went to bed, he took it easy, he watched television. My mother did the same thing, she cooked them dinner. And it was just, one of those things.

MARQUEZ: Trump's view on women, close to home. In his 1997 book, "The Art of the Comeback," he said of his relationship with Ivana, when I got home at night, rather than talking about the softer subjects of life, she wanted to tell me how well the plaza was doing or what a great day the casino had. I really appreciated all of her efforts, but it was just too much. I will never again give a wife responsibility within my business. It's a sentiment he does not seem to share when it comes to his daughter, Ivanka.

IVANKA TRUMP, DAUGHTER OF DONALD TRUMP: My father is very blunt, he's very direct. He is not gender-specific in his criticism of people. I wouldn't be a high-level executive within his organization if he felt that way. So he's always supported and encouraged women. And truthfully, he's proven that. Over decades through his employment practices.

MARQUEZ: One other thing in that 1994 ABC interview raising an eyebrow. What makes Donald Trump fall out of love? TRUMP: I create stars. I love creating stars. And to a certain extent, I've done that with Ivana, to a certain extent, I've one that with Marla. And I like that. Unfortunately, after they're a star, the fun is over for me. It's like a creation process. It's almost like creating a building, it's pretty sad.


MARQUEZ: Mr. Trump has had many women who worked for him and with him who say, he was a great boss. We've also heard the reverse. Now we wait for the voters to weigh in. When Donald Trump makes a transition from a presumptive to full-on Republican presidential nominee, will women embrace him or say goodbye -- Erin.

BURNETT: Miguel, thank you very much.

Amanda back with me. Also with me, Donald Trump supporter Kayleigh McEnany. Bernie Sanders supporter Sally Kohn, and the executive editor of CNN Politics, Mark Preston. We need a token at the table.

MARK PRESTON, EXECUTIVE EDITOR, CNN POLITICS: Listen, I can relate to Donald Trump, okay?

BURNETT: Oh, my God!

PRESTON: I want dinner on the table, right, and I make stars.

BURNETT: OK, OK, hold on. OK. Let me start with you though, Amanda.


BURNETT: OK. How damaging are these words? The fundamental question. How damaging is it?

CARPENTER: OK. To go high level, we know that 60 percent of married families, both people work in the family. Whether because the woman wants to, or she has to economically to provide for her family.


CARPENTER: And so when Donald Trump comes out and says blanket statement is bad for a woman to work, I think that's extremely un- relatable for 60 percent of married working families. And if Donald Trump can't show that he relates to their struggles, the day-to-day problems that they have in providing for their children, for each other, that's a disaster for the election.

BURNETT: Kayleigh, what's interesting, is that there is a Pugh Survey out there from last year, the year before. Sixty percent of Americans believe that it's better to have one parent at home. Is it possible that yet again, while a lot of people hear this and think, how in the world can someone like this become president of the United States, there are a lot of people who say, I actually agree with what he's saying.

KAYLEIGH MCENANY, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER: I think you're exactly right. There's more than a majority that agree with that, and look outside of New York and LA, there are a lot of women who choose to stay home, want to be at home with their families. And Donald Trump is recognizing that's a full-time job. It's very hard to do both. And the problem is, the feminist movement has gotten to the point in this country where they're almost demonizing the fact that women stay home. I take you back to Hillary's 1992 comments.

Let's go back to those before we go back to the '90s for Donald Trump. When she said, I could have chosen to stay home and bake cookies and have teas, but I actually fulfilled my profession. I find that very offensive and, you know, thank you women who try to stay home with their families, not everyone has that opportunity and I praised the woman who chose to make that hard choice.



BURNETT: Go ahead, Sally.

[19:22:26] KOHN: I mean, I'm sorry. But that's not what Donald Trump said. He didn't say, hey, it would be great if we had an economy that was strong enough that two-parent families could make a choice of whether one of the moms or the wife or the husband or whomever chooses to stay at home. And for millennials especially, growing up in this country who are going to be instrumental to his vote. If he's going to win. This rings true -- rings hollow, not only for women, but for men who see an equal role in our society.

By the way, this is the Republican line. No, no, we don't need pay equity laws, we don't need all of these things because women and men are already equal. Now here you have someone running to be the leader of our country, who says, no, not they should have the choice to not work. He says it's not good for women to work. And by the way that would apply to all of us in this panel, with the exception of Mark and incidentally, we shouldn't have a woman president. We shouldn't have a woman president.


This is just -- it's like 1994. Or 1894. This is absurd.

MCENANY: You would choose to ignore Hillary's statement that was incredibly offensive to stay at home moms.

KOHN: You're really going to analogize.

MCENANY: Absolutely.

BURNETT: OK, go ahead. Finish Kayleigh.

MCENANY: We dig into the past of Donald Trump. We go back to 1994. But let's go back to 1992. And you choose to ignore her comment which is incredibly offensive to stay at home moms. That is more damning I think to winning the female vote and then you think Donald Trump --


BURNETT: Hold on. One moment. Because you have a point Kayleigh except for what he is talking about it here isn't just working moms, it's more substantive than that. More substantial than that. Here's what he said about dinner being ready. Let me just play that again in full.


TRUMP: I have days where if I come home, and, you know, I don't want to sound too much like a chauvinist. But when I come home and dinner is not ready, I go through the roof.


BURNETT: That's not the same as respecting people for staying home with children.

MCENANY: He wants to have his dinner. Hey, I think it was partly in a joke.

KOHN: Come on! Really?

MCENANY: But look, if Donald Trump was so against women in the workplace, why would he have a daughter who works and is married? Why would his wife run a jewelry line? Why would he have fired the first females ever in real estate? He was on the cutting edge of that. He empowers women. And to go back and take one statement he made in 1994 and say somehow he's against women working, I think it's pretty ludicrous.

BURNETT: Hillary Clinton has supported working and not working. Amanda.


CARPENTER: He prepped it with I don't want to sound like a chauvinist. He recognized that he was walking on thin ice. He has very deliberate views of women, how they should look, today with Hillary Clinton. And how they should act. This has been a dominant theme over the years in public interviews, over the past 30 years. It is who Donald Trump is. And so if you buy into Donald Trump, you're also buying into his views about how women should look and act, and that's going to be a huge problem for him going forward. Because it is who he is.

BURNETT: What does all this mean though for the female vote? By the way, he is lagging in it, if he lags like he is now, he's not going to win the White House. So, he's got to turn it around. Or you have to assume that a lot of people who hear this are not offended.

PRESTON: I don't mind being the fifth wheel of this conversation. Because it is an amazing argument.

BURNETT: You were hoping I would not come back to you. PRESTON: I mean, I just wanted my dinner. And that's all I'm asking

for. No. I mean, here's what's confusing to me with Donald Trump. He makes statements like this that are outrageous. I mean, they are.


PRESTON: It's an outrageous statement to make, okay? But at the same time, to Kayleigh's point, he empowers his daughter. It's a bit of confusion that I can't wrap my brain around. The empowerment of women within his own company but yet goes out and says these outrage statements. I can't recon it. I don't understand who is the real Donald Trump.


MCENANY: This is a family of extraordinary wealth and privilege. Very few families in America live the lifestyle that they do. So to continue to point to your family, oh, I gave my wife a jewelry line or hotel, no one has the problems like Donald Trump does.

KOHN: And clearly, what's good for him is not what's good for America. So my daughter can work, but I don't necessarily think I should have policies and practices that support all women. And I have to say, I am so sick of the false equivalence between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump on this issue, her entire career has been about helping women and men and their families. I'm sorry, it has been --

MCENANY: Making women victims.

KOHN: It is the same as drawing the equivalence between him hosting a beauty pageant in Russia and her depth of foreign policy experience. Whether you agree with it or not, the sort of, oh, let's bring up the one thing Hillary Clinton did. I'm sorry but it's ridiculous. He has a pattern of sexist statements and you can't --


MCENANY: But Hillary Clinton and the radical feminist movement has a history of making women into victims. They thrive on that. The entire movement depends on that. And it does a dishonor to the first slave -- feminists who have made it possible for all of us to be sitting here.

KOHN: And the women like yourself who are sitting here because we can work as women and are society are grateful for that feminist movement. But go ahead, spit in its face.

PRESTON: Let's all have a drink.

BURNETT: We're now. Thank you all very much.

OUTFRONT next, the breaking news in this hour. There is a new pro- Trump Super Pac for months today. It raised tens of millions in a few hours.

All the breaking details not out anywhere, going to be out here. Next, and the tangled web behind the UCLA shooting. Officials now

saying, the shooters had a kill list and victims planned. Who else is on that list? We'll be right back.


[19:31:31] ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: New tonight, the Senate's most powerful Republican sounding the alarm bell. Majority leader, Mitch McConnell, telling our Jake Tapper that Trump may alienate key Latino voters, as much like black voters left the Republican Party when it was led by Barry Goldwater in the 1960s.


SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), MAJORITY LEADER: Going after Susana Martinez, a Republican governor of New Mexico, the chairman of the Republican Governors Association, I think was a big mistake. What he ought to be doing now is trying to unify the party.


BURNETT: Major statement from the Senate majority leader.

Phil Mattingly is OUTFRONT.

And, you know, look, the same day you've got Paul Ryan, House speaker, coming out, endorsing saying he's voting for Donald Trump and his office saying it is the same thing as an endorsement and the majority leader saying things like that, and concerned about Trump.

I mean, it's just pretty difficult, Phil.

PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No question about it, Erin. Look, a major statement but also a very prevalent sentiment without -- within the Republican Party. And you look at what Mitch McConnell is saying. Mitch McConnell is looking at the future of the Republican Party, but, Erin, he's also looking at the future of his Senate majority, also, Paul Ryan's House majority.

That's his focus now and what's most interesting to watch how top Republican officials, top donors and potential candidates view the Trump candidacy, Trump as the presumptive Republican nominee, and for some candidates, it actually had a benefit in the sense that donors wary of Donald Trump are helping them out.

Erin, an interesting aspect of this, the top super PAC backing Senate Republicans raised more than $6 million in the first quarter of this year, largely because of Donald Trump, the top Republican House super PAC has doubled what it's raised in 2016 over what they raised in 2015.

So, Erin, a lot of Republicans trying to figure out what this kind of Trump as presumptive nominee world means and for them and for somebody like Mitch McConnell, that means focusing on down ballot, not just the man at the top of the ticket.

BURNETT: Phil, thank you.

OUTFRONT now, a close friend, business associate of Donald Trump, Tom Barrack. The real estate billionaire has known Trump for more than 30 years. He was the man who at Trump's low point after losing Wisconsin, introduced him to Paul Manafort, the veteran operative who is now Trump's campaign chairman.

Let me start, Tom, with the big news today on donations. Up until this point, there had been a lot of, quote/unquote, "super PACs" supporting Donald Trump. A dozen of them or so. They raised about $2 million.

Today, what you're calling the real deal super PAC has launched. And in just a few hours, how much money has it raised?


BURNETT: So, $32 million, just since filing today. Who are they? Are these traditional Republican donors who have shunned Donald Trump, you know, people like Paul Singer or the Ricketts who have said, "over my dead body", basically, they'll donate, that are now getting onboard? Or are these new names, big money names that we've never seen before?

BARRACK: Well, first of all, over my dead body people are not dying so quickly. They're reviving a more fruitfully than you would think, right? A lot of people are starting to turn the corner.

What they've been waiting for is this idea of, is Donald going to act more presidential. Is he going to pivot on the issues? And as time goes on, and they have more faith in the fact that he's making good judgments, and they become more furious with the establishment, which is really the key here, they become committed --

[19:35:00] BURNETT: Just more hatred of what the choice is, in some cases, as opposed to pro-Donald Trump, but it's enough to get them onboard?

BARRACK: Absolutely.

And I think, honestly, it's not -- you know, I've said before. Hillary is a tremendously competent person. It would be insane to say that she is not competent or qualified for the presidency. She is amazingly competent.

But this is a discussion of establishment. And I think what we have seen is, America is infuriated with the status quo. And Donald represents everything that is not status quo.

BURNETT: Top Republican fund-raiser, Fred Malek, is raising money, as you know, for Republican candidates across the country. I spoke with him. His view is, you have to put in a half billion dollar check if you're Donald Trump, and then you're going to get the big donors to say OK, I'll get on board. This guy is going to put real skin in the game. Is he going to put real skin in the game?

BARRACK: Look, he has real skin in the game. Fred is a pro, enlightened. I would never take him on. And I think for Fred's constituency, he's right.

The playbook is different. That playbook doesn't exist anymore. You have a gigantic segment of America who is fed up, who hasn't played in this game before.

It's about changing America. And whether Donald becomes president or not, this dialogue, this debate that we need to fund and fuel because it's the way our stupid system works. It's a ridiculous system.

The money is raised. The way it's allocated. The way the electoral process -- when people say it's corrupt, we all know that it's corrupt. But nobody knows how to change it and it's the best system we have at the time.

BURNETT: Hillary Clinton gave a major national security speech today. In it, she slammed Donald Trump on these issues. Here she is.


HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He is temperamentally unfit to hold office that requires knowledge, stability and immense responsibility.


This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes, because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin.



BURNETT: You talk about donors and how their biggest fear about him is that he isn't presidential. She is reflecting what a lot of them probably feel, as well. Why is she wrong?

BARRACK: Well, let me -- let me give you a personal view. Not a political view. And I've known Donald for 40 years, and I've watched him in every kind of business and negotiating setting that you can imagine.

And foreign policy is a gigantic word. And immigration is a gigantic word. And what you have is a man who's saying, look, we have complexity in the world, and none of us understand it. None of us understand what our foreign policy is.

Is he saying that he would truly ban all Muslims? Yes, he is saying he's going to ban all Muslims. And by the way, I'm an Arab-American. I happen to be Christian. But I grew up with the Sunnis and the Shias and Judaism (ph). And what he's saying is, Islam is a great religion. People who follow

Islam are a great people. But, Islam, we need you to help us solve this problem, first in your own regions. You have to be the first to order of discipline.

So if you have young boys strapping on TNT in your mosques, you need to take responsibility for that, so they're not traveling to Tel Aviv or Munich or New York or Los Angeles. If you don't do that, we're going to have a problem.

It's not necessarily just hyperbole. So, I think what he's really saying is, I will really do it, and, by the way, he has the constitutional ability to do that.

BURNETT: So you're optimistic about what he's really saying. I was in Dubai the other day, though. I spoke to Mohamed Alabbar, another real estate mogul, the man who built the tallest building in the world. Here's how the conversation went with Mr. Alabbar.


BURNETT: Donald Trump's proposed ban on Muslims coming to the U.S. is something he's doubled down on, has tripled down on it. In March, he said, and I'll quote him, "I think Islam hates us. There's something there that's a tremendous hatred. We have to get to the bottom of it. There is an unbelievable hatred of us."

This is the presumptive nominee for the Republican nomination.

MOHAMED ALABBAR, DEVELOPER BEHIND BURJ KHALIFA, WORLD'S TALLEST BUILDING: I don't know if he is saying that for political reasons. But he's a smart man. That's so untrue.

I don't think it will happen. I don't think that's going to happen, because I think this is just going to be so ridiculous. I think the world is going -- the reverse of the openness.


BURNETT: He calls it ridiculous.

BARRACK: First of all, Mohamed Alabbar is one of the brightest young Arabs I've ever met. He's a good friend of mine. He's the oldest son of 12 kids, just to show you how life works. His father was a captain of a little boat. He went to the University of Seattle.

You put Mohamed Alabbar and Donald Trump in a room for 20 minutes, the Middle East crisis is solved.

[19:40:03] Mohamed is saying exactly the right thing too. I mean, he's defending his own culture and the righteousness of logic. But it's all setting up the boundaries against which a deal can be struck.

BURNETT: All right. Tom Barrack, thank you very much.

BARRACK: Thank you, Erin. It's great. BURNETT: OUTFRONT next, new details about the UCLA shooting. Police say the gunman had a kill list. Two people on that list are dead tonight. Who else was on it?

And tonight, police wrapping up their investigation into the family of the 3-year-old who jumped into that gorilla pen, will they file charges?


BURNETT: Breaking news in the deadly shooting at UCLA. We are learning the gunman had a kill list. Tonight, two people on that list are dead. Investigators now trying to figure out if there are other victims.

Kyung Lah is OUTFRONT.


KYUNG LAH, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The murder/suicide, the chaos on the UCLA campus appears to have been a planned hit.

Gunman Mainak Sarkar writing what police call a kill list, and then carrying it out.

[19:45:02] CHIEF CHARLIE BECK, LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT: He went there to kill two faculty from UCLA. He was only able to locate one.

LAH: Police say Sarkar, a 2013 mechanical engineering PhD graduate, recently drove nearly 2,000 miles from St. Paul, Minnesota, to Los Angeles. Sarkar found one person on his list, 39-year-old William Klug, a professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering. But the second UCLA professor on the kill list happened to be off campus yesterday.

Sarkar went to Klug's fourth floor office, murdering his former professor and turning the gun on himself.

BECK: Sarkar was heavily armed. He had two semi-automatic pistols. He had multiple magazines of ammunition and multiple loose rounds of ammunition. He was certainly prepared to engage multiple victims.

LAH: When police moved into Professor Klug's office, they also found a cryptic note in Sarkar's backup, asking someone to check on his cat. Inside Sarkar's home in Minnesota, police found more ammunition and his kill list. Naming the two UCLA professors and a third name, a woman living in nearby Brooklyn Park, Minnesota.

DEP. CHIEF MARK BRULEY, BROOKLYN PARK POLICE DEPARTMENT: They did locate a adult female, found deceased from apparent gunshot wound. We believe at this point that she was deceased prior to the UCLA shooting.

LAH: CNN affiliate WCCO says the woman killed was Ashley Hasti. County records show she married Sarkar in 2011. On Hasti's Facebook page, she posted two photos of Sarkar. And under an album called "Last days in L.A.," photos posted of UCLA's Engineering IV, the building where Sarkar murdered professor Klug, a husband and father of two young children.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's hard to even fathom it, to have your son grow up without a dad is rough.


LAH: So, what's behind all of this? What was the motivation?

Well, LAPD says that the gunman had an apparent beef, an intellectual property beef with this professor that he wrote about on a blog. But the LAPD police chief was very, very quick to respond that this appears to have been all cooked up in his head that he was delusional.

And, Erin, we should point out that both of the guns that were found in this shooting, they were legally purchased, one belonging to the gunman.

BURNETT: Kyung Lah, thank you.

And OUTFRONT next, the question people have been asking for days, how did this little boy get inside the gorilla pen, right? Toddlers go to the zoo every day. How did it happen? Well, we're going to show you.


[19:51:08] BURNETT: Tonight, prosecutors deciding whether to file charges after a toddler found his way into a gorilla exhibit. The ape then was shot to death. That decision could come as soon as tomorrow.

The Cincinnati Zoo is also saying they're going to reopen that exhibit with taller barriers in just days. And there's growing debate over who is to blame?

The boy is behind the gorilla in the video. He is with his mother when he slips fast the fence, falls over a barrier, into that water moat. He plunges about 15 feet, 15 feet into the water, which is a foot and a half deep. Moments later, the gorilla sees the boy, and drags him around in the moat.

Tom Foreman is OUTFRONT.

And, Tom, I mean, the big question is what are they able to look at in this video to determine who is responsible if anyone is going to be held responsible?

TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's not just the video they're looking at, Erin, but they will start by looking at the area where the spectators were, the visitors to the zoo, this platform up here, and they will look at that basic question, was the adult with this child paying enough attention?

Many people have raised questions saying they don't think so. Some of other eyewitnesses on the scene say they think that's an unfair question, that this happened very, very quickly. Nonetheless, investigators have to look at it.

Here's another thing they have to look at. This bring out into the room. This barrier, this barrier, this is the second area they have to investigate. Zoo officials say more than three feet tall, and they say that these heavy bushes separate about four feet of ground before reaching that deep moat, it's inspected by outside agencies routinely, and is worked ever since 1978, yet we know somehow that boy made it past the fence through those bushes, over that four feet and then down that 15 feet where he fell into the gorilla's hands. And that, Erin, is where the next part of the investigation is going to come up, I think.

BURNETT: And what about it was ten minutes here, the gorilla had control of the little boy for ten minutes. I think a lot of people may not realize how long this actually happened, because we don't play ten minutes of video. What about during that time?

FOREMAN: Well, in that time, they're also going to have to look at the physical facility here and the reaction of the zoo officials to what happened. Bear in mind, this is roughly what this would be like. About two and a half times my height to the top of the moat here, maybe a foot and a half of water here, then on the opposite side, leading to the gorilla habitat, very high walls.

So, you can see in this environment, hard to get anyone in to address the issue. But even when the gorilla hauled the boy up into the habitat there, they were in an area that wasn't necessarily approach the gorilla or approach the boy safely.

Still, investigators have to consider what action was taken, was it taken in a timely fashion, and when they go through all three of these areas, the physical plant, behavior of the parents, the behavior of the zoo staff, Erin, that's when they have to say if they don't get an adequate answer to any of their questions, maybe someone might be charged with something -- Erin.

BURNETT: All right. Tom Foreman, thank you very much.

And I want to go now to our legal analyst, former prosecutor, criminal defense attorney Paul Callan.

You know, Paul, they're trying to decide whether to bring any charges. The child wandered away from his mother. You know, I guess start with that side of it. Could the parents face charges?

PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, yes, they could face charges but this is the kind of law that the D.A. has very substantial discretion. I mean, the law says if you create a substantial risk of harm to a child by the way you take care of the child, that's child endangerment. But anybody that's got a toddler knows that they can slip out of sight for a few seconds, they can pull away from your hand very easily, any parent has gone through this.

And, usually, we don't treat that as a crime. Usually, we're looking for people who beat their children --


CALLAN: -- who sort of deliberately harm them.

BURNETT: Of course, you have people who are so upset here that the gorilla -- we talked to gorilla expert who said this gorilla was not hostile at any time but was confused.

[19:55:05] They had no choice but to shoot it. The people were very upset about that outcome. The zoo, though meantime announcing the gorilla exhibit will reopen with taller barriers.

So, is that admission of guilt on their side? Could the zoo be the one facing charges. The family said they won't sue, they could change their mind.

CALLAN: Well, you know, yes, I think the zoo could have a problem. I mean, in the end, a three and a half-year-old toddler was able to breach security and get into this area where a dangerous animal was kept. Now, it seems to me, on the face of it, that's a problem for the zoo.

But on the other hand, of course, this gorilla was worth an enormous amount of money as an endangered species.

BURNETT: Yes, silverback.

CALLAN: And the negligence of the parent really caused the death of the gorilla. So, could the zoo sue the parents for the value of the gorilla?

There are all kinds of possibilities here. You know, in the end I think we have to mourn the loss of the gorilla, be happy that the child was not seriously injured and move on.

BURNETT: Right. Glad that the child was not injured, but it was a beautiful creature, beautiful beast. And I think a lot of people are very sad that the gorilla was killed.

Thank you very much, Paul.


BURNETT: We'll be right back.


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