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Boston Globe: Trump Female Staffers Paid Less; Funeral for "The Greatest" Planned for Friday; Brazil Battles Zika, Crime Ahead of Olympics; Clinton & Sanders Battling for California; "The Greatest" Remembered as First Muslim Hero; Thousands Flee as Fire Spreads in L.A. Suburb. Aired 7-8a ET
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[07:00:00] DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I have had horrible rulings. I've been treated very unfairly by this judge. Now, this judge is of Mexican heritage. I'm building a wall, OK? I'm building a wall.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald Trump's not just wrong about Judge Curiel, he's wrong about America. He's wrong about what makes this country great.
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The Democratic National Convention will be a contested convention.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We went up to the Ali center and we walked up there and I had to grab tissues because I immediately started crying. I mean, you can't help it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think he would have been a successful athlete in any sport. He just was incredibly gifted as an athlete.
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CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Seven o'clock on a Sunday morning and always good to see you. I'm Christi Paul.
JOE JOHNS, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Joe Johns, in for Victor Blackwell. It's Sunday, it's June, and we are still in the midst of a nomination fight on the Democratic side.
PAUL: Did you ever think we'd be this far into it?
JOHNS: It's unbelievable. Yes.
Just two days away from the last Super Tuesday of the primary season. This morning, Hillary Clinton is on the brink of seizing the Democratic presidential nomination.
PAUL: Uh-hmm. The former secretary of state notching a win overnight in the U.S. Virgin Islands caucuses. If we look at the latest delegate count, Clinton is 63 delegates shy of a magic number 2,383.
Now, today, Puerto Rico holds its Democratic primary, 60 delegates are at stake there.
JOHNS: But Stateside, Clinton and Sanders are laser-focused on California, both holding events there today, as recent polls show the race in a dead heat.
CNN's senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny has the latest.
JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Hillary Clinton campaigning across the state of California with one rival in mind, and that is Donald Trump. Yes, Bernie Sanders is vowing to fight to the convention and, yes, there is this Democratic primary in California and other states Tuesday, but Hillary Clinton is focusing front and center on Donald Trump.
She's trying to repeat some of the claims that Donald Trump simply does not have the temperament to be president, he's not qualified to be president. And she's taking aim at some of the comments he's made about the judge who is hearing the fraud case of Trump University.
She even mentioned that Donald Trump's divisiveness is dangerous. She brought up Muhammad Ali to make her point clear.
CLINTON: Well, Donald Trump's not just wrong about Judge Curiel, he's wrong about America. He's wrong about what makes this country great. And on a day that we are mourning Muhammad Ali, it's worth remembering that we live in a country where people can break down barriers, where they can worship their own God, where they can choose their own name, and where they can lead and follow their own dreams as far as their hard work and talent will take them.
ZELENY: Now, even though Hillary Clinton is focusing on Donald Trump, as she campaigns in California, which she'll do so again today, throughout today and as well as Monday, she'll be heading to New York on Tuesday. That is where she plans to deliver a speech on Tuesday night where she believes that she will hit the number of 2,383. That's the number of pledge and super delegates needed to unofficially clinch the nomination.
Now, Bernie Sanders vowing to take this to the convention. He would need to switch super delegate delegates, some 300 superdelegates. Those party officials who stay there with her. It's an uphill climb to say the least. The Clinton campaign all but ignoring Bernie Sanders here in the final days. They still want to bridge that gap and extend an olive branch before she turns her attention squarely fully to Donald Trump.
PAUL: Jeff Zeleny, thank you so much.
I want to talk about Bernie Sanders's renewed vowed to take his campaign to a contested convention. We've got CNN politics reporter Eric Bradner with us, and Jonathan Tasini, political strategists and Bernie Sanders supporter, and author of "The Essential Bernie Sanders and His Vision for America".
Gentlemen, so good to have you with us. Thank you.
Listen, Jonathan, I wanted to start with you. We have Democratic sources who are saying party leaders are trying to decipher how to get Bernie Sanders to bow out of this gracefully, so to speak, and not avoid alienating some of his you supporters.
Actually, you know what, Eric, let me send that question to you. Do you think it's possible for the Democratic Party to even do that when you see the loyalty of the supporters of Bernie Sanders?
ED BRADNER, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: Well, it could be challenging, but Bernie Sanders has opened some avenues for cooperation here. Listen, he's weighed in on what type of vice presidential nominee Hillary Clinton should choose if she wins the Democratic nomination.
[07:05:02] And he's also talked about the influence on the party platform, right?
So, these are two sort of doors that Bernie Sanders has opened to extending his influence and sort of demonstrating the way he has moved this race to the left, on issues that are important to him and his supporters. So, it's possible that those are a couple of avenues that could sort of help get Sanders and Sanders supporters on board. But there are going to be a lot of hard feelings at the end of this contest, just like there were in 2008.
Now, the good news for Democrats regardless of the nominee is that they have an opponent in Donald Trump who pretty much everybody can rally around the idea of defeating. So, what perhaps a common enemy is what brings them together, more than anything else.
PAUL: OK. But there's one thing that Bernie Sanders has been saying about his supporters. He intimated that it's not his job to push them to support Hillary Clinton. Let's listen here.
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SANDERS: If Secretary Clinton is the nominee, it is her job to reach out to millions of people and make the case as to why she is going to defend working families. That is the candidate's job to do.
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PAUL: So, Jonathan, is he saying he would not encourage the supporters to shift the vote?
JONATHAN TASINI, BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER: Well, good morning, first of all.
Let me say a couple of things. One is I think it's really erroneous and almost journalistically malpractice I think many journalists are doing to say anything about using the word "clinch" about Tuesday.
There will be no nominee. Let me repeat that. There will be no nominee at the convention when the super delegates stand there along with the pledged delegates, and cast their votes. That's a fact.
And I think the media generally is doing a disservice to the American people by talking about anybody clinching the nomination on Tuesday.
To your point, the fact is one thing I think that the media has missed and I think the country or at least certain Clinton supporters have missed is this is very, very different, what's happened in this primary. The people that I've seen, I've now traveled since probably September, October, on behalf of Bernie to dozens of cities and towns, I just got back from California yesterday. The people supporting Bernie Sanders really believe in a political revolution and they see Secretary Clinton as a figure of the establishment.
It's the reason that they want Bernie to go all the way to the convention. They want him to be the nominee. In circumstance if Hillary Clinton becomes the nominee, what Bernie is saying is she needs to appeal to all of the people who do not support her because they see her as a figure of the establishment.
They want a very different economic policy. They want a very different foreign policy. They really do believe in the political revolution. It's very different from past nominating contests where, you know, you come together in this kumbaya.
And one of the things I argue for is that we not think of kumbaya. We think of a unify of purpose. It's to Eric's point, I do think that what will motivate people if it's done correctly is that we must beat Donald Trump. Bernie Sanders has been very clear about that.
PAUL: So, Eric, I want to touch on something Jonathan said, and we talked about it earlier this morning as well. If it's not for the super delegate numbers, he's right, we wouldn't be saying that Hillary Clinton is close to securing the nomination.
Why do we preemptively link super delegates this early in the game before they have officially voted?
BRADNER: Sure. So, super delegates are -- you know, he's right. They have technically not voted. They're not bound to any candidate at this point. There's nothing to stop a super delegate from changing his or her mind. They're completely free to do that until they actually vote on the floor in Philadelphia.
BRADNER: But many of these super delegates have said who they plan to support. So, if you take them at their word and include them on top of the pledged delegates, that's what puts Hillary Clinton on the precipice of hitting the magic number that she needs.
So, what you have to do, if you're Bernie Sanders, you have to actually convince the super delegates not only to support you but to back away from the pledges they've made to support Hillary Clinton and in most instances publicly.
PAUL: Right. BRADNER: So, that's a bit of a challenge and for Sanders to have a real shot at making this argument that he can actually win the nomination, he needs to start moving some of those people having them publicly announce.
PAUL: I'm sorry. Jonathan, I've got 30 seconds left and I have to ask you this question. Senator Sanders has identified himself as an independent up to now. Now he says he is a Democrat.
I have to tell you, I am bombarded with people on Twitter and listening to people saying, screaming, Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat.
Is that one of his biggest obstacles in this contest?
TASINI: He's contested this primary for almost a year as a Democrat. He's been a loyal member of the Democratic caucus in the house and Senate.
[07:10:01] And Eric is absolutely right. There are 50 days between Tuesday and when that roll call vote happens. A lot can happen. It is a narrow path, we acknowledge that.
But the super delegates are going to look at both the polls that show he does much better against Donald Trump and things like the State Department e-mail report and lots of things can happen.
It's five political life lines, a narrow path. But we can move the super delegates. I thank him for saying that it will not be decided until the convention floor roll call vote.
PAUL: All righty. Eric Bradner and Jonathan Tasini, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us.
BRADNER: Thank you.
TASINI: You're welcome.
JOHNS: And a programming reminder. Stay with CNN for Super Tuesday election coverage. That's going to be all day Tuesday, right here on CNN.
A massive wild fire threatening an L.A. suburb. This enormous plume of smoke causing thousands of residents to be evacuated as the flames inch closer to their homes. We're going to have that.
PAUL: Well, new this morning, Iran is reacting to the death of Muhammad Ali, calling the world champion a pioneer in racial equality.
JOHNS: A spokesman released this statement saying, "He was not only a famous champion in the area of boxing but also a hero."
That statement comes after the boxer was a dominating voice in the fight to free "Washington Post" journalist Jason Rezaian from an Iranian prison. Ali released a statement in March of last year, calling Rezaian a man of peace and great faith and demanded the country free him.
Those closest to Ali say that's exactly the kind of man he was, a humanitarian. He wasn't just a world champion. He spent his time outside of the ring, defending human rights, leaning oftentimes on his Muslim faith.
PAUL: "Daily Beast" contributor Dean Obeidallah joining us.
Dean, thank you for being here. I know you wrote an op-ed for the website, calling Ali the first Muslim hero and nothing that he was a civil of what it means to be black and Muslim in America.
[07:15:05] Will you kind of explain that for us?
DEAN OBEIDALLAH, "DAILY BEAST CONTRIBUTOR: Sure. Maya Angelo said Muhammad Ali was everyone's hero. He belonged to everyone.
But I have to be honest, I think in the Muslim community there's a special bond of Muhammad Ali. I spoke to a cross section of Muslim Americans. Congressman Andre Carson, were the two Muslims in Congress, numerous leaders, Muslim Americans, the comedians, performers who are Muslim, and the sense that he was truly a connection to us beyond a sports figure.
He wasn't just the greatest boxer, he was our brother. You could feel that. He inspired people. Numerous will talk about his conviction, standing up in 1967, the Vietnam War, knowing that he would lose his heavyweight title, which he did, be stripped of it, not be able to fight for three and a half years and lose wealth, but he didn't care.
He was a man that inspired people across the Muslim American community, African American Muslims, South Asian Muslims, white Muslims, Arab American Muslims, everyone I spoke to, collectively, it's such a great deal of pride with this man and such a connection. Very palpable connection.
PAUL: Well, Ali was outspoken about, as of late, Donald Trump's proposed Muslim ban. He wrote this letter in December saying the candidates should use their position to bring understanding to the religion and clarify that these misguided murders, like the attacks in San Bernardino and Paris, have perverted the general of view of Islam.
Now, we know that Trump hasn't shied away from his plan.
But how do you think Muhammad Ali's words especially now might shape this election?
OBEIDALLAH: I can tell you there were numerous times in the post-9/11 years, just not now, but over the years, that I wish Muhammad Ali was as strong as he was years ago before Parkinson's, before he had to deal with Parkinson's, because of what a great ambassador he would have been bringing together, building bridges between the Muslim community and our fellow Americans. And that statement about Donald Trump that he was entitled to the idea of presidential candidates proposing to ban Muslim immigration, specifically about Donald Trump.
And it said in there, first and foremost, these guys in ISIS don't represent Islam. They're doing things inconsistent with our faith. They're insulting our faith but at the same time, our leaders in our country, our politicians should be uniting people, and bringing us together, not dividing them.
So, if Muhammad Ali was the Muhammad Ali we knew in the '60s and '70s, he could have brought so much together I think in this country and stood up just through his charisma, his popularity. People like Donald Trump I think would have maybe blunted Donald Trump using language like he did against the Muslim American community in this campaign.
PAUL: All right. Dean Obeidallah, it's been good to have you here. Thank you so much.
JOHNS: That's fascinating thought, the idea of Muhammad Ali being around and able to talk not just about Islam and America but also about Donald Trump. It'd be fascinating --
PAUL: Or just the election in general, for heaven's sakes --
PAUL: -- because it's been so unconventional up to this point.
JOHNS: That's for sure. So, one other news note we are following very closely happening out on the West Coast. Firefighters scrambling to contain a wild fire in an upscale Los Angeles suburb that has devoured more than 500 acres. How much have they been able to campaign?
PAUL: Also, female campaign staffers working for Donald Trump were reportedly paid $15 less than their male colleagues. New report raising questions about how Trump pays women.
[07:22:03] JOHNS: A massive fire is raging in a Los Angeles suburb. Just take a look at this -- a wall of fire is sweeping through the upscale Calabasas home of celebrities. Authorities say the fire started when a pickup truck hit a power pole.
I spoke a little while ago to photojournalist Steve Gentry. He was at the scene of one of the fires. Take a listen to what he said.
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STEVE GENTRY, PHOTOJOURNALIST (via telephone): The situation was very serious. It's very dry here in California and it doesn't take a whole lot for a fire to get going and spread really rapidly. At one point, the fire was going right up through to the backyards of a lot of the homes of the residents in that ea.
(END VIDEO CLIP) PAUL: All right. Let's bring in CNN meteorologist, Allison Chinchar.
What are you hearing about the fire and how it might progress throughout the day?
ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: OK. So, we know that at least the cause of it, probably was from that truck. So, it wasn't weather is the cause, but weather is certainly playing a huge factor in a development of how quickly it spread across this area.
So, here's the quick facts that we know. Right now, we know 516 acres burned. It's only about 15 percent contained. They've had at least 5,000 people that they've had to evacuate.
Now, yesterday, we were warning about record high temperatures for a lot of this area for yesterday. Today, it's more a little bit inland. We're talking Vegas and Phoenix. Los Angeles, not so much. It's actually pretty close to average.
But the topography can play a huge role because even 10, 20 miles outside of Los Angeles, you can have those temperatures in the 90s. But the real factor with this fire has been the wind. It's been an offshore wind, meaning it's coming from those very hot, dry regions and going off out over open water. Now, that is expected to change which will help to increase the humidity a little bit later today and that will be huge.
But we wanted to note that Los Angeles, take a look, this is their average rainfall for the year. Notice the dry period is the summer and we're just now starting to get into that. We talked about El Nino really starting to help out this area, but it really only helps northern California.
So, guys, going into the drought season knowing that we've already had a significant drought, these wildfires are likely continue to increase as we go through the summer.
PAUL: All right. Allison Chinchar, appreciate the heads up. Thank you.
JOHNS: Donald Trump says he was an early advocate for women in the workplace but a new report from "The Boston Globe" shows what you could call a troubling pattern regarding how women get paid.
[07:28:09] PAUL: Good Sunday morning to you. I'm Christi Paul.
JOHNS: And I'm Joe Johns, in for Victor Blackwell.
Hillary Clinton is one step closer to clinching the Democratic nomination. Overnight, Clinton notched a win the U.S. Virgin Island caucuses. She's now 63 delegates shy of the magic number of 2,383.
PAUL: In a few hours, the polls open in Puerto Rico for its Democratic primaries. Sixty pledge delegates at stake in the U.S. territory.
In the meantime, Senator Bernie Sanders is vowing to keep his campaign going all the way to the party convention, claiming neither he or Hillary Clinton will have enough pledge delegates when the primary ends, pledged being the key word there.
Now, a gap has emerged between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton not in the polls, but rather in pay, at least according to a "Boston Globe" analysis which found the Trump campaign paid the male staffers about 35 percent more than the female counterparts. For April, that was a $1,600 difference in pay. That same analysis found Clinton gave her female staffers roughly equal.
Now, "Boston Globe" says the Trump campaign did not respond for repeated requests for clarification on this issue.
JOHNS: OK. We'll talk about this with two of our CNN political contributors, Donald Trump supporter and Reagan White House political director, Jeffrey Lord, and host of "The Ben Ferguson Show", Ben Ferguson.
So, Ben, this analysis came from FEC data from April. These numbers were always meant to be public. Why would the Trump campaign allow a disparity to happen like this knowing it was fully accessible to newspapers and the public?
BEN FERGUSON, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think that this is, to be honest with you, and I've been critical of Donald Trump, nothing but a hit piece by "The Boston Globe", and the reason why I say that is because Donald Trump has hired his staff in a very different way than others like Hillary Clinton.
[07:30:04] First off, he didn't have anybody that he knew very well that was in the political realm. So, he hired people in different jobs coming from different things into his campaign. He had a much smaller staff than Hillary Clinton has.
He hired people based on what he thought they were worth at that moment. I don't think he said, hey, do we need to pay this person more than this person because I don't want to get look bad on 'The Boston Globe' one day." He hired people that were not in politics to come into politics.
The second thing is this: Hillary Clinton has a lot of women that are working for her. That's very normal for women that are running for office to have more women proportionately working for a woman. Even the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard said that about other campaigns.
So, the idea that Donald Trump purposefully is paying women less than men I think is pretty absurd. I think most people are going to look at his campaign, look at the people that he has in positions of leadership. He has a woman, his national campaign spokeswoman, who's been there for a very long time. She was early on when they hired here, there was hardly anybody else on staff.
So, this idea that he's somehow purposely holding women down I think is pretty absurd.
JOE JOHNS, CNN ANCHOR: Well, you know, the question that's being raised here is whether if he hires people at this pay scale in a campaign, is he going to do the same thing when he has women in the White House if he ends up being elected? But let's move on.
JEFFREY LORD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Joe?
JOHNS: Yes, go ahead.
LORD: Joe, you know, sorry. Ben who is certainly a Donald Trump critic is right about this. I would suggest, number one, as somebody who's been involved in presidential campaigns, and U.S. Senate campaigns, different jobs pay different amounts of money no matter who is in the job. Donald Trump has a terrific record as a businessman paying women well.
But one of the things that's not mentioned in this "Boston Globe" piece, which does seem to me like a hit piece, "The Washington Free Beacon" in 2015 did an analysis of Hillary Clinton's paying her Senate staff between 2002 and 2008, and they found that she paid women on her staff $15,709.38 less than the median salary for men, which is to say she was paying $72 cents for women and $1 for men on her Senate staff.
So, we already know what she will do in government and it's not good for women.
JOHNS: OK. Actually, that's been quoted at this programming this morning, I'd like to look at that again because I don't remember.
JOHNS: At any rate, let's listen to a little bit of sound from Donald Trump at a rally Friday in Redding.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Sixteen thousand five hundred border patrol agents two weeks endorsed me. First time they've ever endorsed a presidential candidate. And I asked them. I said to them, I mean, what a perfect group to ask as opposed to some consultant that wants to suck you dry with fees that doesn't know anything, right? They know less than the beautiful young woman standing there, they know less, OK?
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JOHNS: OK, this is sort of a head scratcher and it goes with mini dust up on Friday with him picking out a guy in the crowd, look, my African-American, or words to that effect. But why would you bring up a woman's appearance while talking about something unrelated?
And I think the other question is, isn't there somebody to sort of pull Donald Trump aside and say, you've got to be careful with these kind of off the cuff remarks? Jeffrey?
LORD: He's not politically correct, Joe. We all know that at this point.
LORD: But, you know, in a more serious fashion, this is exactly the kind of thing that I think -- that I know drives a lot of Americans crazy. They feel that political correctness has just gone berserk in this country, so that a simply remark like that, a silly, you know, aside, or the one that was being discussed the other day about what he said, my African-American, things like this get blown up.
They have absolutely no meaning, no relevance to anything and yet they're made a big deal of. And that's because we got a real problem here with people who are just unbelievably politically correct.
JOHNS: Yes. Well, Jeffrey, very quickly. Only got about 30 seconds.
This weekend's Massachusetts convention, Elizabeth Warren kept up her attacks on Trump, calling him a fraudster in chief. Trump hasn't responded yet. But given his earlier responses, we're likely to get one.
Now, she is not running but the question is why does Trump even go after her?
FERGUSON: I think it's because Elizabeth goes after Donald Trump and not personally. I think it's a smart move. He's going after people that are attacking him and coming after him.
Elizabeth Warren certainly seems like she's running for vice president or something in this cabinet, of what she's hoping with Hillary Clinton. So, for him I think he says bring it on. He's not politically correct.
That is and every time Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton tries to come after him, there's something that makes it politically correct, it just actually helps Donald Trump because he says, I'm not playing your game.
[07:35:07] I'm not going to change who I am. I'm not going to sit here and test everything I say before I say it. And if you want to come after me, Elizabeth Warren, bring it on and I'll come right back hard after you.
And actually I think it helps him with his supporters because they like the fact that Donald Trump is fighting and he's not playing the political game which is what he's been saying since day one.
JOHNS: Ben Ferguson, Jeffrey Lord, thanks so much. Good seeing you this Sunday morning.
LORD: Thanks, Joe.
FERGUSON: You, too.
JOHNS: OK. Programming reminder, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are all going to be guests on "STATE OF THE UNION WITH JAKE TAPPER" this morning. That's 9:00 Eastern Time, right here on CNN.
CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Well, Muhammad Ali's hometown of Louisville, Kentucky, is remembering the world champ's legacy as the family prepares to say their good-byes.
CNN's Ryan Young is there live.
RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And, Christi, there were big fights inside the ring and big fights outside the ring. As you look behind me at the memorial site, where so many people come here to pay their respects, Ali once said live every day like it's your last because some day, you're going to be right.
We'll have more coming up in a live report.
JOHNS: And we've got NBA stars reacting to the passing of the legendary boxer. Coy Wire ahead with details.
COY WIRE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Joe, LeBron James says he won't be one of the world's most recognized athletes if it wasn't for Muhammad Ali. We'll hear from King James and Steph Curry, coming up.
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[07:40:01] BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT: When I was president, we had the Olympics in Atlanta. Those of you of a certain age may remember watching Muhammad Ali dealing with his Parkinson's disease. The last bearer of the Olympic torch up ladder to light it. Once the most graceful, powerful athlete in the world with his hands shaking, holding on and he did his job.
And to the very end, he was actually astonishingly good humored about the burden on his later years. So by the time he died, who he was as a person was greater than his legend, which should be all of our goal in life. You want to be better than your publicity, not worse.
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PAUL: Bill Clinton reflecting on his memories of Muhammad Ali. The former president now set to give a eulogy, in fact, during this week's ceremonies honoring the greatest.
JOHNS: The iconic three-time world champion died Friday night and in his final moments, he was surrounded by his family.
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RAHAMAN ALI, MUHAMMAD ALI'S YOUNGER BROTHER: I feel very, very extremely sad. So sad that -- I'm holding back tears right now. I could cry easily cause I have a big, warm heart. I'm a very sensitive man. I've always been sensitive.
And my brother is -- has just passed. And I'll never be able to see him in flesh again. So it hurts me bad that I can't see my brother.
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PAUL: Just think of these family members, and what they're going through here.
Ryan Young is live in Louisville with more information on Ali's funeral.
And, you know, what are people saying there? Did many of them know him personally?
YOUNG: Well, you know, you get these interactions, they saw him one time, he waved, and that was enough for them. Or you're talking to someone like the mayor said the profound impact he had on people around him, and how he entered the room and everyone would smile.
Even in diminished state, he still commanded the presence. If you think about it, look at all the tweets, look at all the things that are said about this man. I don't know if I recall so much positive energy going towards one person.
And when you look behind me, you look at all the things that people brought out here. One of the things that people have been talking about is some of the personal messages that have been left behind. Somebody brought some boxing gloves out here as well to kind of mark the spot.
But now, we're starting to see people come out here more and more often telling the stories about how Muhammad Ali impacted their lives. And, in fact, we know that funeral service will start on Friday. And just to show you how connected he is to the city, there will be a part of the funeral service that will take Ali through several points, impactful moments throughout his life, throughout the city.
As the mayor was talking he says, you can't think of Ali without thinking about Louisville. We talked to center's director here, just about the impact of Ali and how he touched people's lives forever.
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DONALD LASSERE, PRESIDENT & CEO, MUHAMMAD ALI CENTER: The city has lost a native son. It's lost a local hero and it has lost a world hero. The good thing about the city is that it always gravitated to Muhammad when he came to town. And we have the Muhammad Ali Center here in Louisville, Kentucky. Muhammad chose to build his legacy here in his hometown, so that while the city mourns, they will always be able to come to Muhammad Ali Center and commiserate with Muhammad going forward until the end of time.
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YOUNG: So, you see people starting to come out definitely and two more pictures. You know, it's been raining the past few days. They've opened up the childhood home of Muhammad Ali here. That happened in the last month or so. So, people are able to go out there and start looking at some of the things that his home has to offer.
And there are people who are still in the neighborhood who remember when Muhammad Ali lived here. So, there's this connection, hometown connection that's unique, and especially when you hear people use the words he likes to use.
And, you know, if you go to CNN.com and you're reading through it, and you look at some of the quotes he made throughout history, I can never remember an athlete who has so many quotable moments. It just makes you smile sometimes when you read some of the ways he was able to just make people smile and get out there with that larger than life personality -- guys.
PAUL: Yes, a strong man and just a smart man, somebody who had some priorities that were very founded, you know, good foundation.
Ryan Young, we appreciate it. Thank you so much.
JOHNS: The Warriors and the Cavaliers are up once again tonight. The NBA plans to honor Muhammad Ali with a moment of silence before the finals.
Game two tonight, Coy.
WIRE: Yes, this is going to be a good one. Here you have the two greatest, I'll just say it, the two greatest basketball players on the planet, LeBron James and Steph Curry.
[07:45:03] Yesterday, they had some words about the greatest, Muhammad Ali.
Let's hear what they have to say.
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LEBRON JAMES, CAVALIERS FORWARD: For an athlete like myself today, without Muhammad Ali, I wouldn't be sitting up here and talking in front of you guys. I wouldn't be able to walk into restaurants. I wouldn't be able to go anywhere where blacks weren't allowed back into those days, because of guys like Muhammad Ali.
STEPHEN CURRY, WARRIORS GUARD: Ali was the example of how to use your platform and speak what you believe no matter what people are saying. He gives -- you know, look at him as a sense of confidence in that regard for sure.
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WIRE: All right. Curry's Warriors have a 1-0 series lead over LeBron's Cavs.
Joe Johns thinks the Warriors are too tough right now. But Ohio girl Christi Paul thinks that those Cavs --
PAUL: Yes, sir.
JOHNS: I'm from Ohio, too.
WIRE: You're selling your team out.
JOHNS: I know. I feel bad.
PAUL: I was going to say, we may not always be the best but we have a loyalist, right?
WIRE: That's right.
All right. Guys, check this story out. Less than 24 hours after Muhammad Ali passed away, his son-in-law, he goes out and fights at UFC 199. This was last night. Kevin Casey, is married to Ali's daughter Hannah.
Can you imagine his mental space? I mean, you're a fighter, and the greatest fighter of all times, your father-in-law passes away, he goes out there and to make it even more emotional, this is in Englewood, California, Casey's hometown. He never fought there before. Muhammad Ali fought there in 1973 to regain his heavyweight title belt when he won over Ken Norton. Can you imagine that?
His daughter Hannah tweeted out, "I can't be there but I know my father is with you." Kudos to Kevin Casey for going out there and showing that fighting spirit that his father.
PAUL: You know, part of him wanted to be with his wife.
PAUL: Coy, thank you.
WIRE: You're welcome.
PAUL: Appreciate it.
Boy, what a struggle it is for Brazil to try to get everything ready in time for the Olympics. CNN's Shasta Darlington is in Rio.
JOHNS: Wow, with more on how fears over the Zika virus and crime could make matters worse.
[07:50:50] JOHNS: You know, it's hard to believe that there are just two months left before the Olympics begin and Rio does not look like it's quite ready to welcome the athletes so far from fears over Zika virus to gun violence on the street. Brazil facing a lot of challenges leading up to the games.
CNN's international correspondent Shasta Darlington live from Rio de Janeiro. She's out on a boat in Guanabara Bay where the water is extremely polluted.
Shasta, does the city look like it's ready for the Olympics?
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You know, Joe, from out here, it really raises a lot of questions. This bay is absolutely sewage filled. About half of the homes in Rio aren't connected to a sewage pipe. So, guess where it ends up? Right here where the sailors and windsurfers will be competing.
Just to give you an idea we fished some of the garbage out of the way. We got a bottle. We even got a shoe. The worst part, though, is just the smell.
And this puts them at risk for disease, if they scratch themselves, if they fall in imagine and this is just one of many issues.
The majority of the venues themselves have been built but there's the Zika virus which could scare away not only visitors but athletes. Some have said they're thinking whether or not to come, there is rising violence and crime and the recession, which even meant Brazilians themselves aren't buying as many tickets.
JOHNS: Realistically, what can they do about all the stuff in the water? And more generally, what are they doing to make sure the athletes' health and safety are taken care of when they get there?
DARLINGTON: You know, Joe, when it comes to the water they've given up. They said we failed on this one. We promised to clean up the bay. It isn't going to happen. What we can do is send out garbage boats that keep the debris away.
And they're trying to tackle the health issues on the Zika front. They know that's what scares international visitors the most. So they're trying to point out that is the South American winter so there will be fewer mosquitoes. They say, if necessary, they will be fumigating all of the venues, all of the tourist sites.
And they keep pointing to the international warnings by people like the World Health Organization. That you don't have to worry about coming to the Olympics unless you're a pregnant woman and then you should consider staying away because the Zika virus has been linked so serious birth defects -- Joe.
JOHNS: Really complicated situation there, and we'll be watching. Shasta Darlington, thanks so much for that.
PAUL: OK. These words, scum, liars, sleaze, Donald Trump has a ton of names for the media. We've got a lot at some of his greatest hits, coming up.
[07:56:57] PAUL: So Donald Trump tends of so a love/hate relationship with us, with the media.
JOHNS: OK, yes, but -- PAUL: He loves to hate us --
JOHNS: I know, and I'm going to say this, maybe he needs to go to Trump University for some lessons in dealing with the media.
PAUL: Um-hum. This is probably why he hates us.
Jeanne Moos has a look at the Trump guide to handling reporters.
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump is famous for knowing --
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Excuse me, sit down, you weren't called.
MOOS: How to handle the media.
TRUMP: The press should be ashamed of themselves.
By the way, the world's most dishonest people are back there. Look at all the cameras going.
Sit down, sit down, sit down.
MOOS: But maybe he should sit down and read his own Trump University media guidelines. The company play book released by the court included tips for dealing with the media such as expect to be scrutinized.
TRUMP: I like scrutiny, but you know what, when I raise money, excuse me, excuse me, I have watched you on television, you're a real beauty.
MOOS: Nowhere on the list does it say humiliate the press.
TRUMP: Even the horrible press, which is back over there. Look at all those people.
MOOS: Nowhere does it say treat the press with condescension.
TRUMP: Are you ready? Do you have your pad?
MOOS: But some of the actual media tips could be useful. Reporters are rarely on your side and they are not sympathetic.
And just as Trump excuses some Mexicans --
TRUMP: They're bringing crime, they are rapists and some I assume are good people.
MOOS: He also gives some reporters a pass. TRUMP: Disgusting reporters, horrible people. Some are nice.
MOOS (on camera): Now from a reporter's point of view, the play book's last media tip is our favorite. Remember, courtesy gets you a long way.
(voice-over): But Donald definitely didn't read that one.
TRUMP: Like this sleazy guy right over here from ABC. He's a sleaze.
MOOS: Trump's harshest insult?
TRUMP: They are scum.
Absolute scum, remember that. Scum.
MOOS: OK. We will try to remember.
VOICE: Scum, scum, scum.
MOOS: Maybe the Donald needs to write up some new press guidelines.
"I'm here to take your compliments" might be a good one.
But it was Jimmy Fallon as Trump who pronounced the Donald's golden rule of media management.
JIMMY FALLON, DONALD TRUMP IMPERSONATOR: The only one qualified to interview me is me.
MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
PAUL: I would so like to go through Trump's mind through that, he is a good sport on "SNL."
JOHNS: People say it's an act.
PAUL: They do.
Hey, listen, we hope you make great memories today. Thank you for sharing the time with us.
JOHNS: "INSIDE POLITICS" with John King starts right now.
PAUL: And thanks to him, too.
JOHNS: My pleasure.
PAUL: For taking the wake-up call. JOHNS: Thank you.