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Clinton and Kaine Hit the Trail After DNC; Trump Responds to Father's DNC Comment on "Sacrifice"; 16 People Killed in Fiery Air Accident; New Film "Equity" Highlights Women on Wall Street; South Florida Screening Residents for Virus; Trump Backs $10 Per Hour Minimum Wage, Clinton $15. Aired 7-8p ET

Aired July 30, 2016 - 19:00   ET

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[19:00:13] POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: Seven o'clock Eastern. You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Poppy Harlow in New York. So glad you're with us.

One hundred and one days, that's when this nation will elect a president. Right now, Democrats Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine are on a three-day battleground bus tour looking for a post-convention bounce. The focus, two states, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Analysts say this entire election might come down to the Rust Belt. Take a look at this, live pictures of Pittsburgh where Clinton and Kaine are set to speak any moment. Right now, Clinton supporter Mark Cuban is speaking, rallying the crowd.

Clinton wasted no time today, earlier, taking direct aim at her Republican opponent Donald Trump. She says Trump offers, quote, "zero solutions."

Let's bring in Brianna Keilar, CNN senior political correspondent. She's traveling with the Clinton caravan.

There you are in person, my friend. You were on the phone before because you were on the bus. Now you're at the event. She's got Mark Cuban sort of warming up the crowd.

She came from another part of Pennsylvania earlier today. And I wonder how effective you think she and Kaine were at trying to get some of those white collar working votes, those white, sorry, working blue collar voters on board. You said it's not about winning all of them but it's about stemming the bleeding.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's exactly right. So we're here in Pittsburgh. And you've heard Mark Cuban talk about Donald Trump before. He's been quite the critic and he is a billionaire himself. So, that's kind of a track he takes on that. He has connections to Pittsburgh.

And I will tell you, last we spoke, I was in Johnstown or heading into Johnstown, Pennsylvania. That's an area that's really not Clinton country. Very white. It's certainly an area that she would like to make headway in. But Mitt Romney had won there. Here in Pittsburgh, this is a place that has gone for the Democrat in

presidential elections now for several cycles. So, she's obviously -- and you can even see by the size of the crowd here.

The message is really the same, though. It's about trying to increase manufacturing jobs and also trying to show that she's the champion for the middle class. We even heard one of the introductory speakers, a state lawmaker, taking aim at Donald Trump for the products he makes outside of the U.S.

HARLOW: But what's interesting, Brianna, is both Clinton and Kaine at one point in time were supporters of this big trade proposal, right, TPP. They were both supporters of it. Clinton called this the gold standard. Now they've completely flip-flopped.

When you talk about the manufacturing jobs, that's what's helped Donald Trump so much in places like Pennsylvania and Ohio, saying, look, these trade deals have cost you jobs. How believable for these voters is hearing from Kaine and Clinton saying, no, we don't support them now?

KEILAR: Well, and that's why Donald Trump really has an in in there, because he has consistently been against these trade deals.

HARLOW: Right.

KEILAR: I think this is a very heavy lift for Hillary Clinton. We saw in Michigan, that was arguably the reason why Bernie Sanders was able to have a surprise upset there.

And you're right. Hillary Clinton supported the TPP as secretary of state. She called at it the gold standard. She touted it time and time again.

Tim Kaine supported it and was really only in the few days after he had been picked as vice president, we found out actually, you know, he doesn't support it anymore and there's been sort of struggle over the message of that lately with some of Hillary Clinton's confidants, is she going to be for TPP or is she going to be against it when she's president.

It sounds like they're really saying, you know, the ship has sailed there. The TPP, no tweaks in any form, it's going to be DOA for Hillary Clinton if she's the president.

But you're right, Poppy, that is certainly -- I think that is a vulnerability that for some voters, they won't be able to see past. But like we talked about before, for Hillary Clinton does think she's going to win over all the white male working class voters? No. She's trying to keep the margins as low as she can.

HARLOW: Brianna Keilar live for us in Pittsburgh, as we listened to Mark Cuban, we wait for Hillary Clinton to speak, Brianna, thank you much.

It is day one of that Clinton/Kaine three-day bus tour. As Brianna just explained in detail, she wants to win as much of that white working class vote as she can. A lot of it supported Trump in the primary. Can she take some of it?

Let's bring in, Ryan Lizza, Washington correspondent for "The New Yorker."

Ryan, thank you for being here. I mean, what do you think? Do you think that --

RYAN LIZZA, WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT, THE NEW YORKER: Good to see you, Poppy.

HARLOW: Good to see you too, my friend.

Do you think that the Clinton camp sees a potential flip in Pennsylvania as a real risk, because it's been what, six elections now that they've gone for the Democrats? Do they see it as a real risk that they could lose this time around?

(INAUDIBLE)

[19:05:11] HARLOW: All right. We're having a hard time hearing Ryan Lizza. We're going to fix the connection. Let's listen in to Mark Cuban.

MARK CUBAN, BILLIONAIRE BUSINESSMAN: Not just tech companies. People like to talk about tech companies all the time, but all kinds of companies. Those companies are developing jobs. This is not just for the geeks of the world like me, but for every Pittsburgher. I invested in a company called Simple Sugars.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Yes, they make little simple scrubs. It's run by a young lady named Lani Lazzari, 21 years old, going to do $3 million in business this year. And you know where every one of those scrubs are made? Lawrenceville.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

I invested in another company called (INAUDIBLE) that provides reading support for tens of thousands of kids around the country, helping them learn and get excited about reading, when they're 5, 6, 7, 8 years old, a Pittsburgh company.

A company called Civic Science that does data and data research, a Pittsburgh company. You know what they're all doing? They're adding all kinds of jobs. They're growing, they're making not just me produced as an investor. They're making Pittsburgh proud.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

But their success, their success doesn't mean it will be easy for everybody. It won't. It never is.

But I can tell you, as an entrepreneur, as an investor, with absolute certainty, that companies and jobs, they won't be created by terrifying people. No, Donald Trump. They'll be created by inspiring people like Hillary Clinton does.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Leadership, leadership is not yelling and screaming and intimidating, right? She knows.

And she knows, you know what we call a person like that, you know, the screamers, the yellers, the people who try to intimidate you? You know what we call people like that in Pittsburgh? A jag-off.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Is there any bigger jag-off in the world than Donald Trump?

Leadership, though, leadership is having a clear, positive vision, outlining a plan and telling people how they can participate in that vision and how as a leader we will pull them to it and all of us can succeed together. It's not. I won't share my plans or details. That's a bluff, which is exactly what Donald Trump is doing. He's bluffing.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Leaders know -- leaders know that the only certainty in this world is uncertainty. You have to be prepared to take on the unknown. You have to have a thirst for knowledge. You have to be always learning, always learning. Thinking you know it all and thinking you get all the information you need from watching the TV shows, that doesn't deserve a comment.

HARLOW: All right. There you have it, Mark Cuban, a native of Pittsburgh speaking to Clinton/Kaine supporters in Pittsburgh about why he is supporting that ticket against Donald Trump in this election.

I want to bring in Ryan Lizza, Washington correspondent for "The New Yorker."

Ryan, it's interesting, two billionaires. You've got Mark Cuban making the case to folks in Pittsburgh as a billionaire, talking about investing in local companies and going against Donald Trump, another billionaire.

But this comes down to who will convince those white working class voters that they will stand up for them the most. Do you think the Clinton camp can stem the bleeding and at least not have a blowout when it comes to those voters in the Rust Belt, in that sector?

LIZZA (via telephone): Yes, as Brianna pointed out in her segment a little earlier, the Clinton campaign, they're not going to win a majority of the white working class. Democrats haven't done that in a very long time.

So, they need to hold their losses, right? It's one of her weak spots. It's one of Donald Trump's strengths. But this is a very tough electoral vote map for Donald Trump.

Remember, Democrats have won the popular vote in five out of the last six presidential elections. And Pennsylvania, a state -- it's really kind of a must-win state for Donald Trump. If he's going to steal away a Democratic state, Pennsylvania is the one to watch. And --

HARLOW: I think --

LIZZA: Yes, go ahead.

HARLOW: I think on that front, Ryan, it's an interesting point, when you look at Pennsylvania, you know, you can't just say this is a story of one economy.

[19:10:06] Pennsylvania's really a story of two economies, right? Old steel, coal, manufacturing jobs, that have been left behind. And then when you also look at sort of the suburbs of Philadelphia, for example, you've got trade, you've got thriving biotech companies, the cable hub. You've got these sort of two economies that play within the state.

LIZZA: That's a great point, Poppy. The new economy, the old economy. Frankly, what -- one of the big changes in the two parties in the last few decades is that the Democratic Party is attracting a lot of the winners in the new global economy while the Republican Party is attracting a lot of the people who have been left out.

That's a big ideological difference between not just Hillary Clinton, but Bill Clinton too, who is a modernizer and talked about globalism, globalization, and free trade. And that's -- you know, that's the dividing line in this country, is how do we help the people who have been left out of the new economy.

And frankly, you know, neither party has figured this out yet. And there is a lot of blame on these trade deals that frankly don't account for everything. You could get rid of all these free trade deals and all those jobs are not coming back. I think both parties know that.

So, you know, that's going to be the gist of the debate, the new economy versus the old economy.

HARLOW: Yes, the new economy and versus the old economy. And by the way, as we watch Clinton and Kaine walk out onstage and embrace Mark Cuban, this is a tour about stopping at places that, quote, "make things". That's what this is about, Ryan.

But now, the challenge is to convince them that they are the party that can stem the bleeding when it comes to those manufacturing jobs. And that's a hard argument to make in a modern economy, when technology has played so much.

Ryan Lizza, stay with me as we watch Tim Kaine, Hillary Clinton, former President Bill Clinton there onstage, and Tim Kaine's wife as well, Anne Holton.

We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back to this live event. You will hear from Clinton and Kaine in just a moment.

We also have a lot ahead this hour. This -- it was arguably the most powerful moment of the week. You heard it, you saw it. The father of a fallen U.S. soldier blasting Donald Trump, saying, quote, "has not sacrificed anything." Next, how Trump is responding, saying he himself has sacrificed a lot, and the controversy that that has sparked.

Also, later in the hour, a new firm that tackles gender pay and the pay gap in Hollywood. I will speak to the women of "Equity", a movie about power brokers that are women on Wall Street.

You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[19:15:38] HARLOW: All right. It was one of the most poignant moments of the Democratic National Convention.

Khizr Khan who son died fighting in the Iraq war gave an emotional speech onstage on Thursday. He used much of it to attack Donald Trump.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KHIZR KHAN, FATHER OF FALLEN U.S. SOLDIER: You have sacrificed nothing and no one.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: So, Trump reacted to that when asked about it in an interview today with ABC News.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

INTERVIEWER: How would you answer that, what sacrifice have you made for the country?

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I think I've made a lot of sacrifices. I've worked very, very hard. I've created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs.

INTERVIEWER: Those are sacrifices?

TRUMP: Oh, sure, I think they're sacrifices. I think when I can employ thousands and thousands of people, take care of their education, take care of so many things. I was very responsible along with a group of people for getting the Vietnam Memorial built in Downtown Manhattan which to this day people thank me for. I raised and I have raised millions of dollars for the vets. I'm helping the vets a lot.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: So there is Donald Trump responding and saying he sacrificed. So with me now is Allison Jaslow. She's chief of staff of Iraq and

Afghanistan Veterans of America. She also served two tours herself in Iraq.

Thank you for being with me.

ALLISON JASLOW, IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN VETERANS OF AMERICA: Thank you for having me.

HARLOW: I think it's important to point out your organization IAVA declined a donation from the Trump camp, is that correct?

JASLOW: That's correct. That's because we're a nonpartisan organization.

HARLOW: OK.

JASLOW: We had a presence on the ground at both conventions and frankly, you know, we feel like it's our job to help make sure that both candidates and both campaigns are speaking to the issues that matter to the post-9/11 generation of veterans.

HARLOW: So, let's talk about what Donald Trump has said, I have made sacrifices and here they are.

JASLOW: I think it points to a larger disconnect between a lot of the American public and sacrifices that not only folks like myself have made but also their families. I can't even say what it felt like to be my mom, who was worried every day about whether someone would come knock on her door and tell her that I wasn't making it home.

HARLOW: So, your CEO just released a statement really condemning these remarks. What does this mean do you think for veterans going forward in terms of who they're going to support in this election?

Because it was Donald Trump, let's read the statement, "For anyone to compare their sacrifice to a Gold Star family member," and he goes on to say, "Someone who has never served himself and has no children serving our children, our country has been at war for a decade and a half", and he goes on to say, "And the truth is, most Americans have sacrificed nothing. Most of them are smart and grounded enough to admit it."

JASLOW: I mean, absolutely. As a veteran myself, as somebody who was deployed to Iraq once but twice, and, you know, less than 1 percent of the American people have actually served and stepped up, disrespect is something a lot of people are feeling today.

HARLOW: So, what does this do for Donald Trump as a candidate? You say the group is nonpartisan but what does this do as a candidate among veterans? He has come out repeatedly and said and we see him standing with veterans, "I am the candidate for veterans, I will do the most for veterans."

How do these comments affect them, do you believe? JASLOW: I think the challenge is that there are a lot of words that

are very disconnected from actions. You know, I think what we're looking for is policies that are actually going to indicate that both candidates are ready to be commander-in-chief.

And, you know, when they have opportunities to speak to whether they are fit for that, you know, I think that they need to think through the words that they're using, think through the people's lives that it's touching, especially those who are sacrificing so much.

HARLOW: Allison, thank you so much. We appreciate it. And thank you for your service, two tours in Iraq, we appreciate it very much.

JASLOW: Absolutely.

HARLOW: I want to hear from the Trump camp. Scotty Nell Hughes is a CNN commentator and a Trump supporter. She joins me from Nashville.

Look, Scottie Nell, once again, Trump's comments have offended a group, they've offended veterans. You just heard the statement I read from the CEO of IAVA, a huge veterans' organization. Did your candidate make a mistake?

SCOTTIE NELL HUGHES, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, first of all, let's put this veterans organization, yes, I do respect her service as well, but to say these folks are fiercely nonpartisan, they have constantly been criticizing Mr. Trump and doing everything they can to sit there and say that he is not for veterans.

[19:20:12] And they're one of the few veterans organizations that are doing that. And there's a simple reason why. The majority of their major donors are also the who's who amongst the Hillary Clinton campaign, people like John Soros to Goldman Sachs to the White House, Rachel Maddow, all of those are their largest donors.

And they've done very good work when it comes to could you side prevention amongst our soldiers. But when it actually comes to work with our soldiers, I think these type of political statements they continuously make against Mr. Trump only hurt the good works they've been doing.

HARLOW: Scottie Nell, I have Allison here with me. I want her to respond to that.

She's saying, look, you say you're nonpartisan but you're anti-Trump. Everything I heard you say right now was not pro or anti, either campaign. Do you have a response to what Scottie Nell is saying?

JASLOW: I think that we are very fair and balanced. I think that our organization is -- has credit and credibility for representing all the voices of our members. You know, you referenced donations before. We wouldn't take donations from either campaign, frankly. We were at both political conventions recently. Quite frankly, neither of the conventions touched on our issues enough.

HUGHES: It's interesting, because the president of your organization, he is an exclusive blogger for "The Huffington Post" who has come out time and time again and said they would only cover Mr. Trump as entertainment. Like I said --

HARLOW: Scottie Nell, I'm going to jump in there because this is getting a little bit astray from what I focus here, that your candidate Donald Trump made a comparison of his sacrifices as a businessman to the loss of life of an American soldier, a Muslim American soldier fighting for this country. Was that a mistake? Is there really an equivalency there?

HUGHES: Well, in this comparison, I do have to disagree with Mr. Trump, as a veteran's wife myself, as a veteran's family, the ultimate gift is someone who, and ultimate sacrifice is someone who gives their life for our country and for our freedom. For that, my heart goes out to the mother and father that were on that stage. As someone, who's my son will be the third generation military, hopefully army for him like everyone else.

So, in this case I do believe the ultimate sacrifice was given by these parents with their son and my heart does go out for them.

But I think we also have to look at the motivation for why this group is coming out against Mr. Trump, for them to say they're fair and balanced, that's what they're saying right now, but their statement itself, they've been constantly going against Mr. Trump.

HARLOW: To be fair, Scottie, it's not just this group, right? This is one group that is opposing the statement, but if you look at Twitter and the explosion on Twitter following these comments made on ABC News, it's more than this organization. And I just wonder if you think that these controversies take away from moments like this.

Let's play it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: The members of your organization have fought for the American flag and, boy, have you fought, on distant battlefields all across the world. Your members have shed their blood and poured out their hearts for this nation like nobody else. Our debt to you is eternal.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: So Donald Trump is saying that and then contrasting it with him making an equivalency between his sacrifice and that of a fallen soldier or questioning John McCain's status as a war hero and not apologizing. Do those take away from moments like we just saw?

HUGHES: Well, I think that was a speech that he gave this week that he overwhelmingly received a loud range of applause from the VFW, probably the largest organization, just like the Veterans for a Strong America have also come out and endorsed Mr. Trump.

And I think it's because when you actually look at the plan he's put forward, and he put this out in October of 2015, his actual veterans plan, he added ten more points to it today. He actually has a specific plan to help the veterans of our country. And that's why you see the larger organizations, the ones that truly are nonpartisan and have a track record of it, sitting there and realizing that Mr. Trump is the one, while issues like this come up and words might come up, his actions actually do speak louder than his words in this.

HARLOW: Should he apologize for making the comparison of his sacrifice to this soldier's?

HUGHES: That is up to Mr. Trump to see how he handles it. But to myself, like I said, I do agree that the ultimate sacrifice was given by the parents, by their son in this case.

HARLOW: All right. Scottie Nell, thank you to you. And as you said, your son serving his country, thank you to him for his service, and again, to Allison, thank you to her for being on as well. We appreciate it.

All right. I do want to note. A programming note here, Khizr Khan, who we've just been talking about, he will be a live guest tomorrow morning on "STATE OF THE UNION" with our Jake Tapper. You don't want to miss that. Also on "STATE OF THE UNION" with Jake, vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine, 9:00 a.m. Eastern, only right here on CNN.

[19:25:01] Coming up, we are watching Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, right now. We'll take you there in just a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HARLOW: A horrific accident early this morning in central Texas, and there are no survivors. Take a look. This is what's left of a massive hot air balloon after police say it ran into a power lines, caught fire and fell to the ground with 16 passengers on board. A witness said it looked like a ball of fire.

Our Ed Lavandera is following the story from Texas.

Ed, what more do we know at this hour? I don't think we have the identity of the victims, do we?

ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No, we don't. FAA officials tell us they believe there were 16 people on board, which would make this one of the most catastrophic hot air ballooning accidents we've ever seen. So, we are told by two sources there in Texas that investigators will probably be taking a close look at, in the beginning stages of this investigation, is the power lines. If you look at video there from the scene, you'll notice that this accident took place near a long line of power lines.

These two sources tell us they believe at this point that the hot air balloon collided with those power lines, igniting the fire and causing the balloon to plummet to the ground. What exactly caused the balloon to collide with those power lines isn't clear. But I think what we're hearing from the ground here early on is that they'll be taking a close look at what exactly was going on with those power lines as this balloon was coming down to the ground. A witness in the area described that she heard as the balloon was plummeting to the ground.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARGARET WYLIE, BALLOON CRASH WITNESS: First, I heard a whoosh, you know, like a whooshing sound. Then a big ball of fire up, and I'd say it probably got up as high as those lower electric lines. I didn't see the balloon hit. I just heard the popping. And I heard the popping, and then the next thing I knew is the fireball went up.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

[19:30:15] LAVANDERA: A horrific scene. In fact when it was first called into emergency officials there in Caldwell County, they thought they were responding to a fire on the ground. It wasn't until they rolled up on the scene and they realized the magnitude of what they were dealing with. So, NTSB investigators on their way in the next couple of days. They will begin their investigation to determine an exact cause of what cause the hot air balloon to come down -- Poppy.

HARLOW: Ed, thank you so much reporting first live in Dallas. As soon as we have the names of the victims of course, we'll bring that to you.

All right. I want to take you now back to the battleground state of Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton speaking live on this three day bus tour with her running mate, Tim Kaine.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: That requires the kids to go on the internet. Now, I think that makes sense. You know, just like Mark was a pioneer in using the internet to deliver services, we want our kids to know how to use it and how to learn from it. And who knows, they may grow up and follow in Mark's footsteps for whatever the next generation is. But here's the kicker. Five million kids in our country don't now have access to the internet in a way that enables them to do the homework they're asked to do.

That's five million kids who are being left out. And after I finish saying that in Harrisburg, I was walking the line, as I will after I talk here, meeting people, shaking hands. And one of the men I met said, you know, that's only half of it. We still have places in Pennsylvania, he told me, where our only option is dial-up. Right? I see heads nodding. How are we going to be a competitive 21st Century economy and take on and win in the world if we can't even get broadband, if we can't even get internet connectivity to every single home and business? And we're going to do that.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Now, in addition to growing the economy, we are going to make it fairer. And this is a big deal too. Because I want everybody to be lifted up. I want everybody to benefit from their hard work the way mark has done with his businesses. There's a couple of things we can do at the government level as well as encourage more businesses to follow Mark's example. We can raise the national minimum wage so that more people have a chance to get themselves out of poverty and into the middle class. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

And we can do more to help small businesses, because that is where most of the new jobs are created. So let's do more to get them the credit they need, and get rid of the red tape and the bureaucratic obstacles. But, you know, the fastest way to raise incomes in America, it's pretty simple. Let's finally guarantee equal pay for women's work.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Now, I've got to add, I think most of you know this, but this is not a women's issue. It isn't. Because here's what I would ask you. If you have a working mom, wife, sister, or daughter, it's your issue. It's a family issue. And when women are shortchanged, families are shortchanged, and the economy is shortchanged.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

And the other thing we're going to do, we're going to make sure that we pay for everything I'm proposing.

HARLOW: All right. There you have it. Democratic candidate for president Hillary Clinton speaking about equal pay for women. Coming up, the simple truth. We all know if women still only make 79 cents for every dollar that is earned by men. The gender pay gap still very real in Hollywood as well. So, when have women actually made more money than men?

Up next, I am going to tell you about the new film in which women were intentionally paid more.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We actually paid the women more than the men in this movie. And that was just a wonderful thing.

HARLOW: Because they have the bigger roles.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. And we employed more women. Because why not?

HARLOW: Flipping the tables.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: More from my sit-down with the women of "Equity," next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[19:37:55] HARLOW: All right. So Hillary Clinton shattered one glass ceiling, that's for sure. But plenty of other glass ceilings still remain. Think about this. No woman, no woman, has ever been the CEO of a major American investment bank, ever. Well, the new film "Equity" explores the challenges of powerful women on Wall Street. It's the first major film about women on Wall Street since remember that 1988 hit "Working Girl." Yes, it's been a while. "Equity" I thought is fantastic. It has it all greed, money, sex. Silicon Valley and of course Wall Street. Watch.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For each of you, what's that thing that really makes you want to get up in the morning?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, for me, I guess the simplest answer is I like money. I do. I like numbers. I like negotiating. I love a challenge, turning a no into a yes. But I really do like money. I like knowing that I have it. I grew up in a house where there was never enough. I was raised by a single mom with four kids. I took my first job on Wall Street so I could put my little brothers through college. But I am not going to sit here and tell you that I only do what I do to take care of other people, because it is OK to do it for ourselves, for how it makes us feel. Secure, yes. Powerful, absolutely. I am so glad that it's finally acceptable for women to talk about ambition openly but don't let money be a dirty word. We can like that too.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: All right. There it is. The film has just opened, "Equity" received a grand jury prize nomination at Sundance.

Joining me now for this week's American opportunity, the two powerful women behind it who produced "Equity" and acted in the film, Sarah Megan Thomas and Alysia Reiner. Thank you both for being here.

(CROSSTALK)

I appreciate it very much. It's a great film. And that line, "I like money," it's interesting, Sarah, because you've said we as women don't talk about how much we make enough.

SARAH MEGAN THOMAS, ACTRESS: Totally. We talk about our sex lives more than we're willing to talk about as women what we make or even go in and ask for that promotion.

HARLOW: Right.

THOMAS: So, we think it's a fascinating thing to explore.

HARLOW: And not allowing I like money to be a dirty word or dirty phrase.

THOMAS: Yes.

HARLOW: You know, when you look at how this started, you two started your own production company to make it happen. Was that because you couldn't get the funding for it? Why was that?

ALYSIA REINER, ACTRESS: It's actually interesting, we wanted to do it ourselves. And there were a lot of places along the line where we could have partnered with another company and we decided, no, we want this to be our baby, and we want to be able to make all the choices. You know, for example my character plays a lesbian, and I'm married to a woman of color. And if we had sold it to a studio, they may not have made that choice.

HARLOW: You said, Sarah, that men in Hollywood have ten times more jobs than women.

THOMAS: Uh-huh.

HARLOW: So you say, create your own work.

THOMAS: Absolutely. I think artists in general should create their own work so that they see the types of roles they want to play. But we really wanted to show strong and ambitious women who work on Wall Street, which was something we've never seen in a Hollywood movie.

HARLOW: But I mean, is that what it's come to in Hollywood, that you have to make your own work?

REINER: Yes. I think that's true in every part of the world. Like if you want what you want, sometimes you have, like I have an expression, don't wait, create.

HARLOW: So we're clear, all female production staff.

REINER: Yes.

HARLOW: Pretty much all female cast, not totally.

THOMAS: Yes, yes, the three lead roles are women, which I think is, I mean, "Ghost Busters" is coming out now, and that's very similar. But I think it's very rare to see three strong, complex, meeting that likeable all the time by the way. Women.

HARLOW: Right.

THOMAS: And we wanted to have roles that are as complex as the male roles that you see out there.

HARLOW: And what about behind the camera?

[19:42:10] REINER: Female director, female writer, female production designer, female costume designer.

THOMAS: We had a male photographer.

HARLOW: There you go.

THOMAS: We did.

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HARLOW: It's important because so many times those roles are not filled by women. Look, you had some very powerful women on Wall Street, actual women working on Wall Street now, getting behind the project, advising you, helping fund it. One of those women is Barbara Byrne, the vice chairman of Barclay. So, let's hear what she said.

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BARBARA BYRNE, VICE CHAIR OF BANKING, BARCLAYS: The reason I backed it is because Hollywood would not back a movie backed by women. It was an all-female cast, director, producers, screen writers, and the principal actresses. And the group of us that got together did it because we could do it, we could put women forward and we could allow the story to be told, and to show the intensity of the business, but also it's crafted as a thriller.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: So, Alysia, how did you make those introductions, how did you go to the women on Wall Street and pitch this? What was their reaction to it?

REINER: What was really exciting is Candy Strait, our executive producer --

HARLOW: Yes.

REINER: -- set up all of these parties for us. And it was like doing a road show. You know, we really, we would go and --

HARLOW: Like taking a company public.

REINER: Exactly. So, we would go, we would show our -- we made a little sizzle reel that showed things like "Working Girl," and they would be like, she's not a secretary, she's not a hooker, she's not the woman in the background. Then we did a PowerPoint presentation. I point that out because I feel like it's really important that we showed we were businesswomen. We weren't just ditzy actresses. We were really interested in making their money back.

HARLOW: It's been fascinating to watch. And at a time when Hollywood is really grappling with the reality of equal pay issues.

REINER: Yes.

HARLOW: And big, big stars coming forward and saying, you better pay me the same as my male counterparts or else.

REINER: Absolutely.

THOMAS: We actually paid the women more than the men in this movie. And that was just a wonderful thing.

HARLOW: Because they had the bigger roles.

THOMAS: Right. We employed more women. But we also -- because why not?

HARLOW: Flipping the tables. Ladies, Sarah Megan Thomas, Alysia Reiner, thank you so much, congratulations. The film is "Equity," see it, it's great. REINER: Yes.

THOMAS: Thank you.

HARLOW: Quick break. We'll be right back.

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[19:47:40] HARLOW: Health officials in Florida confirming the first non-travel-related cases of the Zika virus here in the United States. Four cases, they are now identified, and again, they all come from local mosquitoes, meaning, these weren't contracted outside the United States and then brought in. So blood thinners in South Florida, right now screening all of their donations. Health officials there going door to door, screening residents. They're especially concerned about Zika's connection to devastating birth defects.

The disease has been circulating in dozens of other countries. And now there are concerns as the 2016 Olympics in Rio are just days from opening, right near the epicenter of the outbreak, which is of course in the heart of Brazil.

Our Dr. Sanjay Gupta is in Brazil for us tonight, he is in Salvador. And it's important to note, Sanjay, why you're in Salvador. Because this is really ground zero for Zika.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: It really is. And when people started to develop symptoms of Zika infection, you know, two years ago now, Poppy, they really don't know, A, what it was, B, how serious it was going to be, or C, that it might be linked to these birth defects that you're talking about. So, you know, this is an area that was completely taken by surprise.

And now we know quite a bit more, obviously, and have conclusively linked this virus to these birth defects, specifically something known as microcephaly which just basically means small head and developmental problems with the brain as well. So, they've been studying this for a long time here, Poppy, they've been going door to door, trying to find women who were pregnant, trying to find anybody to learn more about this infection and what it's been doing to the body here.

HARLOW: So, one of the big concerns now that it is local in the United States, meaning not contracted outside and brought into the United States is how much it will spread, Sanjay. So, should there be a grave concern of it spreading fast in this country or are we talking about very different circumstances from where you are in Salvador?

GUPTA: I don't think it's going to spread rapidly nor widely in the United States. And I think that there's some good news. And I say that with a reasonable amount of confidence. You know, the type of mosquito that spreads Zika already was in the United States. It's a mosquito that also spreads diseases like dengue fever for example. So, if you look at dengue fever, there are outbreaks of dengue fever every now and then in the United States. But usually in very specific areas, South Florida, South Texas, Louisiana. Areas that sort of replicate the same climate as we have here in

Salvador, Brazil for example. You also, you know, look, here this is a very impoverished area of Brazil, Poppy. I mean, screens in the windows, climate control. Just even nutrition, basic nutrition. Those things are difficult to come by, but they make a huge difference when it comes to controlling mosquito populations and controlling the spread of this virus. So, there's concern obviously because the virus is spreading locally there as you mentioned in Florida, but I really don't think based on everything we know that it is going to spread quickly or widely in the United States.

HARLOW: All right. Sanjay Gupta, thank you so much. Live for us tonight in Salvador. As you note, Sanjay will be in Brazil all week leading up to the start of the Olympics reporting for us there on the Zika virus from ground zero in Salvador. Sanjay, thank you very much.

Jobs, jobs, jobs. It is the number one issue in this election like in so many elections before. And here's the thing. Too many of the jobs created since the great recession pay far too little for someone to live on, to get by on. The federal minimum wage in this country is 7.25 an hour. Hillary Clinton now wants to double that, more than double it to $15 an hour. You've heard of the fight for 15. Meantime Donald Trump's position on it a little harder to nail down. At one point in the campaign he said the minimum wage in this country was, quote, "too high."

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I think having a low minimum wage is not a bad thing for this country.

Taxes too high, wages too high. We're not going to be able to compete against the world. I hate to say it, but we have to leave it the way it is.

NEIL CAVUTO, FOX BUSINESS ANCHOR: So do not raise the minimum wage?

TRUMP: I would not raise the minimum.

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HARLOW: Now Donald Trump says the minimum wage is not high enough. Listen.

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BILL O'REILLY, FOX NEWS HOST: What would you set the federal minimum wage at?

TRUMP: It doesn't have to be. Well, I would leave it and raise it somewhat. You need to help people. And I know it's not very Republican to say, but you need to help people.

O'REILLY: Well, give me, give me, ten bucks? Ten?

TRUMP: I would say 10. I would say 10. The minimum wage has to go up. People are -- at least $10, but it has

to go up. But I think that states should really call the shots. As an example, I live in New York it is very expensive in New York. You can't buy a hot dog for the money you're talking about.

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[19:52:47] HARLOW: I bought a hot dog for less than $7, but I digress because this is a really serious and important debate. So, let's hash it out with Stephen Moore, senior economic advisor to Donald Trump. And Andy Green, managing director of the economic policy at the Center for American Progress.

Gentlemen, thank you very much for being with me. And Stephen, let me begin with you. And nice to have you in New York here with me usually --

STEPHEN MOORE, CHIEF ECONOMIST, HERITAGE FOUNDATION: Thanks for having me.

HARLOW: Normally you're in D.C. What is it? I mean, you're the senior economic adviser to Donald Trump. So, where does he stand, too high or too low on minimum wage?

MOORE: Well, one of the things that Donald Trump has said that I completely agree with, we should let the states decide. You know, we've got 50 states and we've had a lot of --

HARLOW: We'll get to that in a moment, but we heard two different things from him. Which is it?

MOORE: Well, no, but I mean, this is when he's saying raise the minimum wage to $10 an hour --

HARLOW: Yes.

MOORE: I think what he's saying is let the states do this, you know, because it's one thing to have a $10 an hour minimum wage in a place like San Francisco.

HARLOW: Right.

MOORE: It's another to do it in place like Cleveland or Newark.

HARLOW: And he did say to Bill O'Reilly this week the federal minimum wage should be $10.

MOORE: Right.

HARLOW: So, I'm wondering, let's take that as a -- that's his most recent statement.

MOORE: Right.

HARLOW: So what sparked the change? MOORE: Well, look, this has been a lousy economy. There's no

question. And one of the things I've talked to him about is look, Mr. Trump, the problem isn't the minimum wage. It's the middle class wage. That's what we should really be focusing on. It's been ten years now without a wage increase. You know, when you started this by saying, the big issue now is jobs, jobs, jobs, I'd say the big issue from most people is --

HARLOW: Wage stagnation.

(CROSSTALK)

MOORE: -- wages.

HARLOW: So, but do you know what you talk to him, you're a senior economic adviser --

MOORE: Yes.

HARLOW: At what point did you convince him or did someone convince him that yes, the federal minimum wage should be higher?

MOORE: Well, actually we're meeting this week to go over a lot of these issues and kind of clarify. The other thing I'm going to advise him to do is we should -- in this country, if we're going to raise the minimum wage, we should at least have I think everybody would agree with me a $5 or $6 an hour minimum wage for teenagers. Because most of the people are who are in the minimum wage are young people and it's a starter job. My first job is --

HARLOW: So, that's actually not the case anymore because a lot of these jobs since the great recession at fast food chains have become older people supporting a family.

MOORE: That's true. There's truth for that --

HARLOW: So, it's not just teenagers.

MOORE: -- but for most people their first job is a minimum wage job.

HARLOW: First job. But now you have adults making it more and more.

MOORE: Yes.

HARLOW: Andy Green, let me bring you in here. Because to be fair, you got a point out, only about nine percent of American workers actually make the minimum wage. A lot of the states like the one I'm sitting in New York, right now California have a much higher minimum wage. New York and California are going up to $15 an hour. And here's the problem. There is a level where just basic economics shows us that you have job losses. And the question is, what is that level? In your calculation, what is that minimum wage where you have excessive job loss?

ANDY GREEN, MANAGING DIR., ECONOMIC POLICY, CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS: Well, I mean, if you look at the times that it has been implemented in cities across the country, actually unemployment has gone down. So, you know, the economic theories do say what you're saying, but quite frankly the experience is that when Americans get paid a little bit more, more of them come out to work. And you see the knock on benefits of more people having more money in their pocket, spending, investing. Have a little more to help their kids go to college or get that next job.

And frankly raise the minimum wage to even just $12. And I think we need to go to 15. But even just $12 raises incomes for 30 percent of all working women, more than 35 percent of African-Americans, and about 38 percent of Latinos. So, this is a sizable portion of the population that would benefit from this and would have broad impacts, positive impacts on the economy overall.

MOORE: The economic question is, what do you do about people who aren't worth $12 or $15 an hour? They can't produce $12 or $15 an hour in terms of output. Are you saying in America they can't get a job? That's why I feel so strongly that, you know, young people should have a much lower minimum wage. The most important thing is to get young people into the workforce. The other thing is, it is true that if you look at, you're right, if you look at the unemployment rate in places that raise the minimum wage, you don't see a high correlation.

Where you do is again, with black teenagers and white teenagers and Hispanic teenagers. Their unemployment rate is highly effected. Especially, think about this, Poppy. The two industries that are most likely to hire people at minimum wage, retail and fast food. And they're going to replace workers with computers and --

HARLOW: I already ordered my --

(CROSSTALK)

MOORE: Right. Exactly.

HARLOW: -- and I had at the airport the other day. But Andy, it's interesting to me. So, we now have both candidates from both parties saying the minimum wage should be higher. I mean, that's a big change from what we have seen in past elections. Sounds like tome you are saying it should be 12 not 15, are you saying the calculations you and your team have done show us that the fight for $15 or $15 an hour is going to mean a substantial loss of jobs?

[19:57:14] GREEN: No, I'm not saying that at all. I would just citing a statistic of just take you to 12, what that does for people?

HARLOW: OK.

GREEN: I think we're all in favor of $15. I'm just really quite stunning to hear Mr. Moore advocating for lowering wages for anybody in this economy. We ought to be raising wages not lowering them.

MOORE: I'm for a higher wages. There's no question about it. The problem under Obama is wages have actually declined for American workers. That's the problem I think -- (CROSSTALK)

HARLOW: -- wage stagnation for more than just the -- I mean, it's been from the previous administration --

MOORE: Yes, that's true.

HARLOW: There's been wage stagnation in this country for 20 years.

GREEN: I mean, if we look, go back to the wage stagnation has been 20 if not 30 years. And the exception to that would be the 1990s. I mean, Secretary Clinton has a comprehensive plan to invest in infrastructure, lower the cost of college, boost American manufacturing. Tough trade enforcement. Donald Trump has a Twitter account. And now I'm hearing one of his chief economic advisers advocating for a lower minimum wage for anybody in this country.

MOORE: But I didn't say it was -- I was saying for teenagers, I think you would paid for this too. For teenagers who want to get into the workforce who are starting their first job, you're not going to pay a teenager $15 an hour.

HARLOW: Let me ask you Andy one more thing.

GREEN: Yes.

HARLOW: Andy, the head of a major public company in the food industry said to me, we'll have unintended consequences of a $15 minimum wage. That CEO also is for raising the minimum wage. Are you concerned at all about unintended consequences at $15?

GREEN: We always have to look out for an unintended consequences. But I mean frankly, we have an unintended consequence right now where, what Donald Trump is now proposing of a $10 wage done by the states, they can do that right now. We have not seen that progress made instead --

MOORE: But why do you think the states aren't doing it?

(CROSSTALK)

GREEN: -- raise those wages. And frankly, the American people are feeling the consequences and, you know, we need to do more at the federal level.

MOORE: And Andy, why aren't those states raising the federal minimum wage? Because they know if they do, they're going to put a lot of their own workers out of work?

HARLOW: Stephen, final, final point. Very quickly, Andy.

GREEN: The empirical evidence suggests that this is good for Americans, it's good for the economy and it ought to be done.

HARLOW: Guys, thank you so much. Stephen, in 10 seconds. What is your advice going to be to Donald Trump when you meet with him this week?

MOORE: I say let's let the states do it. And if we're going to raise the minimum wage, let's make sure we're not pricing young people out of the workforce. Let's get them into the workforce.

HARLOW: Important debate to have. As always, gentlemen, come back. Thank you so much. We appreciate it.

Ahead tonight, a great lineup of television for you. Right after this, 8 p.m. Eastern, "U.S. Versus Nixon." At 9:00, "Peace with Honor." That is followed by the "State of the Union is Not Good." And at 11:00, "Terrorism at Home and Abroad."

I'm Poppy Harlow in New York. Thank you so much for joining us. I'll see you back here 5:00 p.m. Eastern tomorrow tonight. Have a great night.