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[07:00:33] CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: We are so glad to have your company as always. I'm Christi Paul.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I support and endorse our speaker of the House, Paul Ryan.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Oh, I may have short- circuited, and for that, I will, you know, try to clarify.

REPORTER: Newly released dash and body camera videos show the dramatic moments leading up to a deadly police shooting in Chicago. The officer who fired the fatal shot was wearing a body camera but it was not recording. Investigators are trying to figure out why.

REPORTER: Good morning from Copacabana Beach. Got to go to the opening ceremony last night. Still pinching myself that I was there, I only got three hours of sleep but I woke up doing the samba. We're going to talk about it and show you some of the highlights, coming up.

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BLACKWELL: Good morning to you. Thanks for joining us here on NEW DAY. I'm Victor Blackwell.

PAUL: And I'm Christi Paul. We are so grateful for your company as always. We're talking again politics.

BLACKWELL: Yes, starting again, Donald Trump, walking back his comments on Paul Ryan. Actually, a 180 here, endorsing the House speaker.

PAUL: Yes, and also endorsing Senators John McCain and Kelly Ayotte. This comes after a week of Trump going off message and criticizing GOP leaders, slamming a Muslim Gold Star family. I want to bring in CNN's Scott McLean right now.

So, Scott, talk to us more about what Trump said overnight.

SCOTT MCLEAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Christi, good morning.

So, last night, Donald Trump was looking to smooth things over with his own party, and to do it, he really had to stick to the script. Last night, Trump and something that we rarely see, read closely from some notes. He endorsed Paul Ryan, a guy who is in a tough primary battle in his southern Wisconsin district. And as you mentioned, he also throw in a surprise by endorsing John McCain and Senator Kelly Ayotte from New Hampshire.

Now, earlier this week, Trump had declined to endorse any of those three big name Republicans. And he ruffled plenty of party feathers in the process.

But Trump has had a pretty rough week. He's sinking in the polls. He's struggling to move past controversy. And clearly, he wanted to end this week on a note of party unity, listen.

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TRUMP: In our shared mission, to make America great again, I support and endorse our speaker of the House, Paul Ryan. And while I'm at it, I hold in the highest esteem Senator John McCain, for his service to our country, in uniform and in public office. And I fully support and endorse his re-election. I also fully support and endorse Senator Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire.

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MCLEAN: And a Paul Ryan aide told CNN that the speaker appreciates the gesture from Donald Trump but that he is focused on winning the endorsement of voters in his district.

Now, after that endorsement, Donald Trump turned and focused on Hillary Clinton, someone that Paul Ryan has said in the get-go that should have been Trump's target all along.

The campaign put out a new web video, putting the spotlight on Clinton's misleading statements about the e-mail serve. Now, Trump, he's going to head to New Hampshire tonight. Both he and Senator Ayotte are losing in the polls there. Ayotte has said before that she supports the party's nominee, but she has so far not gone as far as to say that she endorses Donald Trump, Christi.

PAUL: All righty. Let's see what happens there.

Scott McLean, we appreciate it. Thank you.

BLACKWELL: All right. Joining me to talk about, Jeffrey Lord, CNN political commentator, former Reagan White House political director, and a Trump supporter.

Jeffrey, good morning to you. JEFFREY LORD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Good morning, Dr. Victor.

How are you?

BLACKWELL: I'm doing well. Thank you so much, sir.

Listen, I want to get to the substance of this, but something jumps out of me. Every time I watch that, why did Donald Trump have to read those simple endorsements? It's not as if the sentences were complex and difficult to remember?

LORD: Well, I think he did want to be on message there. Let me just start by saying there's a new "Reuters" poll out yesterday that has him down only by three points.

[07:05:05] So, I think he's definitely on the rebound here. Secretary Clinton is on the defensive with her misstatements about her -- misleading things about her e-mails, et cetera.

So, you know, Donald Trump yet cited Ronald Reagan 80/20 rule. And having worked with Ronald Reagan, I remember it well, somebody who agrees with you 80 percent of the time and disagrees with you 20 percent is your 80 percent friend. And I think that was his description of Paul Ryan and John McCain and I think he's right -- and Kelly Ayotte.

BLACKWELL: Not your 20 percent enemy. I think many of us remember that.

LORD: Right, right.

BLACKWELL: Christi is going to talk about the e-mails in a minute, but what was the point that took Donald Trump from "I'm not quite there yet" on Speaker Ryan to endorsing him and calling him a good man. Is it simply that he needed to turn the page or is this something more substantive?

LORD: Well, I think he's suggesting the fact that he is the leader of the Republican Party. And everybody has to adjust when you get to this role. I remember then-Governor George W. Bush finally getting together with John McCain in, what, I guess this was after a pretty beautiful primary. Ronald Reagan certainly made an overture by putting George H.W. Bush on his ticket.

This is what party leader does and this is what Donald Trump is doing and this is the way it works.

BLACKWELL: All right. Let's to something that Ohio Governor John Kasich told CNN about potentially voting for Donald Trump. Watch this.

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JOHN KASICH (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I wish that I could be fully enthusiastic. I can't be. So I don't know what's going to happen at the end. JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: What does Donald Trump need to do to get you

to vote for him? You've obviously said that you'll never vote for Hillary Clinton. Is there any way that Donald Trump can change --

KASICH: Well, it's -- there's so much water over the dam now, it's become increasingly difficult. I want, you know, unifying. I want -- I think I've been pretty clear about it. There was a speech I made called two paths. You know, you can either operate on the dark side of the street or operate in the light. I believe America needs people to operate in the light, plain and simple.

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BLACKWELL: He said he needs -- that America needs someone who is going to operate in the light there. What's your reaction from what you're hearing from Governor Kasich?

LORD: Well, you know, on Monday this last week, I was with Donald Trump in a rally about five miles from here in central Pennsylvania. I had plenty of time to talk to folks who were there. The rally was totally filled inside this massive gymnasium and joining auditorium and there were thousands of people who couldn't get in.

They are so enthusiastic about Donald Trump, the changes at hand. I honestly think that Governor Kasich is out of touch here. There's a lot of passion, a lot of enthusiasm from these folks. And I'm sure that it applies in Ohio as well. I would just, for the sake of party unity now, it's time, it's time.

BLACKWELL: We should also say there's a significant number of self- identified Republicans who are still not behind Donald Trump and believe in the latest polls that the party is not united and potentially will not be united moving forward at least in the next 94 days by election day. I want to listen to also something Donald Trump said, this was in Burlingame, if my memory serves me well, back in April at the California GOP state convention, and he said this about unity. Watch.

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TRUMP: Ideally, I think we'll be together, I think I will win even if we're not together. I mean, there are some people I honestly don't want their endorsement. There should be and there has to be unity. Now, with that being said, would I win can I win without it? I think so, to be honest, I think so.

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BLACKWELL: Still believe, do they still believe they can win without a unified GOP?

LORD: Well, you know, one of the interesting factors, I think, of this election, Victor, is presence of people coming into the system who have never paid much attention to it before or were sort of put off by all of politics, these people are pouring in the door, if you will, of the Republican party, in support of Donald Trump. So, yes, I think he can do -- I think he can win, absolutely. I think

he can win. And there's always going to be people, Victor. I mean, I remember after the hotly contested primary in 1980, Congressman John Anderson who is a member of the Republican House leadership and was a candidate picked up his marble and ran as a third party candidate. He got 6 percent of the vote and Ronald Reagan won in a landslide.

BLACKWELL: All right. We'll pick up right where we're leaving off here. Jeffrey, stay with us. Quick break, we'll be right back.

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[07:13:01] BLACKWELL: Welcome back. We're talking endorsements this morning.

And Donald Trump has now endorsed Speaker Paul Ryan in his primary race there in Wisconsin. But Sarah Palin, big Trump supporter, is not following his lead. She plans to still back Ryan's opponent, Paul Nehlen. She tweeted this, "Proud to be standing with Paul Nehlen since May 9th. Wisconsin, please vote for this man of the people on Tuesday."

Let bring back Jeffrey Lord, CNN political commentator, former Reagan White House, political director and Trump supporter.

Jeffrey, your reaction of what you're seeing from Governor Palin, or ex-Governor Palin. I wonder, what is the potency of a Palin endorsement these days?

LORD: Oh, I think she's got a lot of clout with a lot of folks. I have nothing but the greatest respect for Governor Palin. I have a great deal of affection for her. I think she's terrific. Yes, she certainly does.

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BLACKWELL: -- division here with -- or separation from Donald Trump?

LORD: These things happen. Somebody's going to win, and then we'll go on from there.

BLACKWELL: Well, I imagine if these things happen and somebody is going to win, Donald Trump could have stayed where he was and not endorsed Ryan and Ayotte and McCain?

LORD: He's in a different spot. He is the party's presidential nominee. And I can give you an example, Victor, again, from Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was no fan of the late Arlen Specter, who is running as a liberal Republican. He was won in the ballot in 1980 for the senate for the first time. He won in a Reagan landslide. Six years later after irritating Ronald Reagan mightily over those six years, Ronald Reagan swallowed hard, endorsed him in Pennsylvania, doing fund-raiser for him, exerted his influence to get a conservative challenger out of a primary situation.

So, this is what party leaders do and this is Donald Trump's moment. BLACKWELL: How long -- you say this is Donald Trump's moment. How

long is this iteration of Trump and the campaign going to last? I imagine, I mean -- I know that sitting in this chair, we've asked at least a dozen times, Christi?

[07:15:01] I don't know. Is this the presidential shift? Is this the turn toward preparing for the general? Are we all being fooled? Is this going to change where we see him in New Hampshire this weekend?

LORD: Well, Donald Trump is going to continue to be Donald Trump. There's no question about that. But, yes, we're now in the general election. It may be August. And the Olympics may be attracting a little bit of attention here. But, you know, the game is on here.

So, Donald Trump understands full well what the stakes are. He's very -- I can tell you, I spoke with him on Monday, you know, in person. He's very up beat.

BLACKWELL: Well, the game was on last week when he was going after Ghazala Khan as well. So, I mean, I don't know if that necessarily justifies the change. But we'll see. I guess that's the answer to that. We won't really know.

LORD: There is a Gold Star mother just last night by the name of Karen Bond who spoke up for him. So, I think we've turned the corner there as well.

BLACKWELL: All right. Let's talk about this video that's coming out. Donald Trump did a 180 on that video. He said he saw of the plane, the $400 million going to Iran. He tweeted, "The plane I saw was the hostage plane in Geneva, Switzerland, not the plane carrying $400 million in cash going to Iran."

Well, now, reportedly, this interesting turn of events, there is purportedly video from an Iranian documentary that was aired on Iranian television, showing money on the day, that several American prisoners were released. We've got this video up now.

Now, reportedly, this wasn't known to have existed when Trump made the claim. But from your perspective, does this change any element here for Mr. Trump in the campaign?

LORD: Well, the essence, and frankly, when I saw that video, I thought the same thing he did. And I now understand that there's one of the hostages who says they were not allowed to board their plane and leave until another plane mysteriously landed. Now, presumably, that's the one with the cash on it.

But the point is, whatever video is in sight doesn't change the fact, is that the U.S. government, under the Obama administration, paid $400 million in cash ransom for these hostages. And I can tell you, again, I was in the White House during the Iran Contra affair. And there was a major congressional investigation, a presidential commission, a special prosecutor, there was a lot that resulted from that. So, this is a very, very big deal. BLACKWELL: Well, president, of course, says the U.S. does not pay

ransom, did not pay ransom. It was $400 million that was announced back in January.

LORD: The Iranians have said otherwise.

BLACKWELL: Well, the Iranians have said many things otherwise. But the president also said that they had to send in cash because there is no banking relationship with Iran.

LORD: All right.

BLACKWELL: But we have heard from both sides on that as well.

Jeffrey Lord, thanks so much.

LORD: Thank you, sir.

BLACKWELL: All right. Christi?

PAUL: All right. Being at both sides, just as a short circuit? Hillary Clinton trying to explain why she fumbled an answer about the investigation into her private e-mail server. We've got Karen Johnson and Scottie Nell Hughes talking about that and more on the Dems side coming up.

Also, more than 11,000 athletes from 200 countries, yes, folks, the games are on. Guess who is there. Coy Wire, live from Rio.

Hey, Coy.

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Christi. Good morning.

Got to go to the opening ceremony last night. Not going to lie. Got a little teary eyed. About 3 billion people tuned in to watch this. We're going to talk about who stole the show and sent the internet ablaze when they walked out shirtless. That's all coming up. We'll see you soon.

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[07:22:02] PAUL: Twenty-one minutes past the hour.

And you are officially waking up to day one of the Olympics, opening ceremonies kicking off the 2016 games. It featured more than 5,000 costumes, spectacular fireworks, and guess who was there -- one Mr. Coy Wire gets to see it in person.

Coy, how are you doing? It looks like a tough job.

WIRE: Hey, someone has to do it, Christi.

I'll tell you, being there was surreal, because you grow up dreaming of being that cool some day. You watch the opening ceremony, and I was there feeling that energy and that passion. The Brazilian people, seeing the colors. It was outstanding. But let's talk about some of the highlights of the night, I was

personally looked forward to the U.S. Olympic team coming out. And they sure did come out in full force, more athletes than any other nation in the games, led by Michael Phelps as the flag bearer, the most decorated Olympian of all time, got his 22 medals.

Had some interesting outfits. The athletes say they love them, the ones I talked to at least, a lot of people making fun of the outfits online.

But how about when Brazilian supermodel Gisele Bundchen walks out, the wife of Tom Brady. She catwalks in front of about 3 billion people for the time this bossa nova song, "The Girl from Ipanema."

Also, the star of the night had to be the guy from Tonga who made the internet tingle. Tae Kwon Do competitor, Pita Taufatofua, wearing that traditional Tongan and not much else. A whole bunch of oil, glistening body. Oh, people were having fun with that, got the party started for sure.

Now, guys, I got an exclusive interview, U.S. track star Justin Gatlin, arguably the most popular event in the Summer Games, the shortest, ten seconds going toe to toe by Usain Bolt. I caught up with him to talk about their duel. Check it out.

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SCHOLES: I got to ask you about Usain. He said you're going to feel his wrath. What are your thoughts on this?

JUSTIN GATLIN, 100M GOLD MEDALIST IN 2004 OLYMPICS: You know, I'm just going to come out here and just do what I do, which is, you know, run, enjoy myself. Make my way to the finals get on top of that podium and just represent USA. That's what I'm here for.

SCHOLES: This may be the last time you after do face Usain Bolt. Does that cross your mind at all, I may get one more shot at taking this guy?

GATLIN: You know, I haven't thought about it. I'm just going to get out and do what I need to do. It's Olympics, it's going to be special, I know everybody is bringing their A-game. So, I got to make sure that I'm ready.

SCHOLES: Talking about this being special. You have already won the gold. Where are you mentally this time around?

GATLIN: Hungry. You know, I'm just bring -- you know, this is my third Olympics, so I'm bringing the fun, carefree Justin Gatlin from 2004 and the honored to be here Justin Gatlin from 2012, putting the mix together, I'm going to celebrate and have a great time.

SCHOLES: Some of the athletes have great ability, but they also have sustainability. And that's you. You've been doing this a long time.

[07:25:00] What has kept you going like a champ? GATLIN: I mean, the fans. You know, the fans -- you know, people

haven't never seen me before, just giving me well-wishes throughout social media, and hoping that I come out here and do what I needed to do as American, as an athlete and that's what gives me the drive to keep going forward.

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PAUL: Ooh, Christi, I cannot wait to see that one. Don't blink or you'll miss it. Twelve gold medals up for grabs today. That hard ware is going to start to be handed out. I'm excited about the swimming taken place tonight. I'm also excited about the paddle boarding and some of the cool things that I'm going to go, do and make you jealous of my assignment.

But it's a beautiful morning here on Copacabana, the Rio Games are underway.

PAUL: All righty. I'm grateful that you are able to there be, Coy. I'm grateful for you, I promise. Thank you.

WIRE: Thank you. Thank you.

PAUL: Victor?

BLACKWELL: All right. Let's turn now to the city of Phoenix on edge as police are searching for a serial sniper. Officers say the gunman has killed seven people and now has struck again.

Plus, chances are you got one of those new chip credit cards in your wallet right now. You know, the ones where you never know whether to insert or swipe. They're a little annoying at this phase. Coming up, we'll hear hackers who say those cards are not as safe as you can think and you will not believe what they say they can do with them.

PAUL: And speaking of money, mortgage rates fell this week. Here's your look.

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[07:30:01]PAUL: You can breathe deeply. You're at your weekend, at 7:30 in the morning. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: You made it. I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to be with you.

Donald Trump trying to put the political feuds behind him, backing GOP speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, John McCain as well in Wisconsin last night, after hesitating to do so earlier this week.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: In our shared mission, to make America great again, I support and endorse our speaker of the House, Paul Ryan.

Paul Ryan. Good. He's good man. He's a good man and he's a good guy. I hold in the highest esteem senator John McCain, for his service to our country, and I fully support and endorse his re- election.

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PAUL: Meanwhile at a gathering of black and Hispanic journalists, Hillary Clinton took questions from reporters for the first time in more than eight months and offered this explanation after she repeated a debunked claim on her use of a private e-mail. Take a listen.

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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Oh, I may have short- circuited, and for that, I will, you know, try to clarify, because I think you know, Chris Wallace and I were probably talking past each other, because, of course, he could only talk to what I had told the FBI and I appreciated that. Now, I have acknowledged repeatedly, that using two e-mail accounts was a mistake. And I take responsibility for that.

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PAUL: Clinton will take a break from the campaign trail this weekend. Donald Trump meanwhile holding a rally in New Hampshire with the latest poll him showing trailing his opponent by 15 points. We'll have more that in just a bit.

BLACKWELL: A serial sniper terrorizing the Phoenix area has struck again. Police say the latest was not injured but the shooter has killed seven people since March. Witnesses describe the gunman as a fair-skinned Latino man, or a white man in his 20s. Authorities released this composite sketch. So, far, the shooter's identity an motive is a mystery. And no one knows who the next target might be, of course.

CNN's Brian Todd has the latest.

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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He seems to choose his victims randomly, approaches them quickly at night and blast them with a semiautomatic handgun.

Now, Phoenix police tell CNN the serial shooter in their city has struck again.

SGT. JONATHAN HOWARD, PHOENIX POLICE: A 21-year-old man and a 4-year- old boy were in a car. It was during that time that we believe the serial street shooter shot at the car. Fortunately, neither the man nor the child were struck.

TODD: That was on July 11th. It's taken weeks for investigators to establish that this was indeed the same man who they say has killed seven people in nine attacks since March.

Children have been targeted twice including 12-year-old Malia Ellis (ph), shot and killed as she listened to music inside a car. Authorities have raised the reward to $50,000, put out this sketch of a suspect. Police tell us he's likely a Hispanic man in his 20s, tall and thin. Profilers say he's a narcissistic psychopath.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: What we have here is a person who cares not about anybody else, but himself. He gets a big thrill out of anything that draws attention to him. He wants to feel powerful and in control. He has no empathy whatsoever.

TODD: And no apparent connection to any of his victims, but he does have an M.O. Police say some of the shootings were in east central Phoenix, including the last one. But most have occurred in a blue collar section of West Phoenix called Maryvale.

(on camera): What does the pattern tell you?

TOM FUENTES, FORMER ASSISTANT FBI DIRECTOR: What's clear is that he's comfortable in both of these areas of the city, east and west, maybe because he knows a place to park that he considers safe and far enough away, when does these shootings, maybe he's lived in the neighborhood or worked in the neighborhood.

TODD: CNN is told investigators are looking into whether the gunman works in a mechanic shop or car sales lot. Police believe he has access to multiple vehicles, two are described as a white Cadillac or Lincoln-type vehicle and a dark 5 series BMW sedan from the late '90s or early 2000s. He always approaches in a car, gets away in a car. He may have an accomplished.

How could this killer slip up?

BROWN: I think the biggest mistake this particular individual might make is that he's starting to think he's invisible, like he's a phantom. Hey, this composite has been out there and nobody's turned me in. They talk about my vehicles. Nobody's turned me in.

TODD: But there could be critical new information. Phoenix police tell us that unlike his previous attacks, in his last attempt, they don't believe the shooter got out of his car. Our analyst Tom Fuentes says that means that explosive residue from his gun could be found inside that car, in the seats or in the interior lining.

[07:35:02] It could be an important clue for police if they can find that vehicle.

Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.

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PAUL: All right. Brian, thank you.

Coming up, those new chip credit cards, they're supposed to protect us from fraud, yes? Well, some hackers say, hmm, there's new technology that makes it vulnerable to a whole new problem. We'll talk about that.

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BLACKWELL: So, you probably have one of those credit cards or debit cards with the chip in it, right?

PAUL: Yes.

BLACKWELL: All right. Now, it's supposed to be safer, do a better job of protecting against fraud.

PAUL: Well, it turns out, these cards are vulnerable as well.

And Laurie Segall introduces us two to hackers who are talking and saying, listen, you people need to be concerned.

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LAURIE SEGALL, CNN TECH CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Christi, hey, Victor. Well, we're here in Las Vegas for Black Hat. Where it's the latest for hackers where the brightest in hacking show off their skills.

Now, one has really stood up. If you're one of those people with a chip in your credit card and think you're safe, you might want to pay attention.

(voice-over): Chip card, they take forever. On the bright side, they're also more secure. They're supposed to stop criminals from stealing our information. But the very thing that makes them take longer may also make them vulnerable. On an old-fashioned credit card, the data of that sensitive register is static. It never changes. On a chip card, the data is randomized, which means it's only good for one transaction.

Normally, the information that expires after just a minute would be useless, but if the hackers can steal it and use it all before it switches again, they're in business.

[07:40:04] And new research shows that might actually be possible if hackers can crack open a store register and add something called a skimmer. Maybe they're friends with the cashier, maybe they own the store themselves, whatever the case, the hackers whip read it and insert your card, and then their minute begins.

Here's how it works. During that minute, the hacked register is stealing all of your card's information. And wirelessly transmitting to another device the hackers have set up elsewhere. Like a smartphone ready to make a mobile purchase, or in this case, a hacked ATM that's confusing the data for your physical banking card. And --

(on camera): First of all, wow.

What did we just see, can you explain just went down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That data on the card is getting transmitted to a device inside this false front here, and then back, then in turn, it's starting to punch in all of the data, punching in the pin, asking for $200 and hitting withdrawal. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's little we'll say robot hands that are

actually putting the pin numbers in there.

SEGALL: You had to take over two devices to make this happen, right? How likely is this to be widespread?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we're trying to do is envision the kinds of attacks that are going to be likely to happen once the U.S. moves over more completely to the tip and pin standard. It's not like the criminals are going to put up their hands and say, oh, you took it away now I'm out of the credit card fraud business.

So, I would expect to see some variation of this, maybe in two years, hence. You know, we're not going to see this today.

SEGALL: You have the skill that enables you to hack an ATM and make money just kind of flow out. Yet, you want to use this skill for good. A lot of people would want to take the money and run. So what is it about you that makes you want to choose this power for good?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm like being ethical, like, you know, like being able to go out in society not being scared that a knock on the door is maybe the police or general.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love the internet. And I'm a technophile. I want that stuff to work. The only way that is going to keep working is with good guys like us working, at least at pace with the bad guys.

SEGALL: And, you know, I've been coming to Black Hat for years. And these hacks, they also seemed pretty farfetched, but this is like Ground Zero for hacks. A lot of research that you see here inevitably happening in the real word. That's why so many folks are paying attention to this community. It's why it's becoming incredibly important. They're the ones that find the flaws before the bad guys do -- Christi, Victor.

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PAUL: All righty. Thank you so much, Laurie.

Now, Hillary Clinton with a roomful of reporters. She tries to explain what some are calling a bungled answer on the investigation into her e-mail.

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[07:46:21] BLACKWELL: Hillary Clinton has not had a news conference in months. But she was in a roomful of journalists on Friday, and she tried to explain what many have called this bungled answer about the FBI investigation into her e-mail. She also took some shots at Donald Trump.

CNN national correspondent Suzanne Malveaux is tracking the story for us.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: America is better than Donald Trump.

SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hillary Clinton laying into Trump today at a conference for black and Hispanic journalists in Washington.

CLINTON: We need to stand up as a country and say that Donald Trump doesn't represent who we are and what we believe.

MALVEAUX: Clinton was asked about her claim in a pair of recent interviews that FBI Director James Comey said her public answers about her emails were truthful.

Here's what she told "FOX News Sunday".

CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS SUNDAY: After a long investigation, FBI Director James Comey said none of those things that you told the American public were true.

CLINTON: Chris, that's not what I heard Director Comey say. And I thank you for giving me the opportunity to, in my view, clarify. Director Comey said that my answers were truthful and what I've said is consistent with what I've told the American people.

MALVEAUX: That statement which she repeated in another interview Wednesday ruled false by fact checkers. Clinton tried to clarify those comments, referring specifically to what Comey said about her FBI testimony.

CLINTON: I was pointing out in both of those instances that Director Comey had said my answers in my FBI interview were truthful. That's really the bottom line here. I may have short circuited it, and for that I, you know, will try to clarify, because I think Chris Wallace and I were probably talking past each other, because, of course, he could only talk to what I had told the FBI, and I appreciated that.

MALVEAUX: Clinton also addressed questions about her struggles with voters, who do not see her as honest and trustworthy.

REPORTER: How would you lead a nation where a majority of Americans mistrust?

LINTON: Every time I have done a job, people have counted on me and trusted me. I take it seriously. And it doesn't make me feel good when people say those things and I recognize that I have work to do.

CLINTON: Every time I have done a job, people have counted on me and trusted me. I take it seriously. And it doesn't make me feel good when people say those things and I recognize that I have work to do.

MALVEAUX: As the Democratic nominee picked up another high profile endorsement. In a "New York Times" op-ed, former CIA Director Mike Morrell said he'd be voting for Clinton in November and warned of Trump's impact on the world stage, saying, quote, "Mr. Trump has no experience on national security. Even more important, the character traits he has exhibited in the primary season suggest he would be a poor, even dangerous commander in chief."

Morrell also slammed Trump's praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin, saying, quote, "in the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin have recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation."

Nationally, Clinton's lead over Trump continues to widen, an upswing helped perhaps by President Obama's rising job approval rating, and a positive jobs report.

(on camera): More good news for Hillary Clinton. A new poll out of Georgia shows she's four points ahead of Trump, of course, within the margin of error. But this is typically a red state. It is significant, this movement, this developments. The last time that Georgia went for a Democrat nominee was Bill Clinton back in 1992.

Suzanne Malveaux, CNN, Washington.

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PAUL: Suzanne, thank you.

With us now, Hillary Clinton supporter and former Obama campaign staffer Tharon Johnson, along with CNN political commentator and Donald Trump supporter, Scottie Nell Hughes.

Thank you both for being here.

[07:50:01] Tharon, I want to jump off with this short-circuited statement. It confused lot of people. There were some wondering, is this -- was this supposed to be a joke, because she has been said to be somewhat robotic during her speeches.

THARON JOHNSON, FORMER SOUTH REGIONAL DIRECTOR, OBAMA 2012: Well, the good news for us is that Hillary Clinton I usually pretty good on her feet and is going to be really good in debates. I think that this sort of comment was sort of just overreaction to the American people. The bottom line is here what she just said. The testimony that she gave to the FBI were truthful statements.

Now, what we're really talking about, Christi, is three out of 30,000 e-mails that the FBI director said had some type of marking on it. Let's be honest, we as American people, we'll truly never know what was in those e-mails because it's so classified and it was such a robust discussion between the FBI and --

PAUL: But don't you think the American people will look at it and think, I want to know what's in it, because there's such a trustworthiness issue when it comes to Hillary Clinton?

JOHNSON: Well, she is -- listen, Hillary Clinton has said that it was a mistake to have two e-mail servers. The polls show that a majority of Democrats and especially the American people are not as concerned about the issues they once was. It's definitely distracting for her campaign. But she's going to have 90-plus days to really show the American people that she's trustworthy and that she's dependable and that she's fit to be president.

PAUL: To turn this around.

JOHNSON: Yes.

PAUL: Scottie, I want to come to you with something that Bernie Sanders wrote, an op-ed in the "L.A. Times." He wrote, Donald Trump would be a disaster and an embarrassment for our country if he were elected president. His campaign isn't based on anything of substance, it is based on bigotry."

This is a man who secured more than 1,800 pledged delegates. He had 46 percent of the total primary vote. How strong is his voice against Donald Trump?

SCOTTIE NELL HUGHES, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I think the question is, does it still have a voice? Has Hillary Clinton done enough to go after those Bernie Sanders supporters? Mr. Trump is looking hopefully to be able to recruit some of those Bernie Sanders folks over. However, if he doesn't, it's not the end of the world. That's not the end for the Republican Party.

However, Hillary Clinton must continue to recruit and a lot of those Bernie Sanders supporters are still very upset. And as she continues to strengthen her ties with Wall Street by hosting high-dollar fund- raisers, by more and more accepting out, she accepted almost ten times more from hedge funds on Wall Street for her campaign than necessarily Mr. Right there does not send a bond the two of them together.

PAUL: All right. Tharon, I see you shaking your head. And I want to get to one other thing if you want to comment on that, too. But there's an article in "Politico" this morning that says that Democrats are really worried about this October surprise, supposedly, more hacking, more that could come out against the Clintons. Help us understand the potency of that concern.

JOHNSON: Listen, when you're in the campaign, it's always sort of a big fear that something's going to happen in October. The reason October is so pivotal, it doesn't give you a lot of time to respond.

Listen, this whole issue of --

PAUL: It doesn't give you a lot of time to fix. For both camps, too.

JOHNSON: That's what I was going to say.

This whole issue with hacking and the e-mails is not just a Democratic issue or a Republican issue, it's a national security issue. And so, while Hillary Clinton should be worried, I think Donald Trump should be worried as well. I mean, let's just think -- what if they uncover Donald Trump's tax returns in October.

PAUL: You led me into my next thing. Let's listen here to something that we heard from Julian Assange last night. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BILL MAHER, TV HOST/COMEDIAN: Why don't you hack into Donald Trump's tax returns?

JULIAN ASSANGE, WIKILEAKS: Well, we're working on it.

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PAUL: OK, they're working on it. So, Scottie, is the Trump's campaign preparing for an elicit release of his tax returns, or is the Trump campaign going to surprise everybody and release them on their own?

HUGHES: Who knows? That might be up -- but what I just heard there, Julian Assange saying that it wouldn't necessarily be hacking into Donald Trump, it would be hacking into the IRS. That right there does cause concern.

But who's saying that he is the one responsible for these hacks. He's just the one that's releasing them through WikiLeaks. So, I think there was a lot of concern there.

But once again, I think you're right, this October surprise. And let's remember, but you know, this isn't the first time that a candidate, going into October, back with Ronald Reagan and Carter, Carter was up by eight points just two weeks shy of the November election then, and things obviously flipped, as obviously Ronald Reagan was able to be elected in 1980.

So, October is actually a very, very important month, I agree with you, on the debates with it. But once again, it just depends on these e-mails. We've already heard that Hillary Clinton e-mails specifically will be released. So, the question is right now, you have three staffers from the DNC resign this week, three more senior staffers, what exactly is going to be in these next rounds of e-mails that are from Hillary Clinton?

PAUL: All right. Tharon, go ahead. I know that you want to respond to that.

JOHNSON: I think the Donald Trump really missed here, he could have come out and been very presidential and statesman like. I mean, Scottie, you and I talked about this. Your candidate, every time he has an opportunity to really connect with independents, he blows it.

And so, at a time where I think his pathway to victory is harder, I mean, listen, he just endorsed Paul Ryan and endorsed John McCain. These are two great Americans. But these are two people who represent the establishment of the Republican Party.

[07:55:03] He also maybe made a lot of his supporters upset with that move.

And you and I both know he's doing exceptionally terrible with independents right now. And Hillary Clinton is doing very well. I think it's a hard road for Donald Trump.

PAUL: I'm sorry, we' we've run out of time. Appreciate both of you being here for us. Scottie Nell Hughes, Tharon John, thank you.

JOHNSON: Thank you.

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