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Donald Trump about to Take the Stage in Wisconsin; Trump Tweets about Rejecting Bigotry, Hatred and Oppression. Aired 10-11P ET.
Aired August 16, 2016 - 22:00 ET
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[22:00:00] ANDERSON COOPER, AC360 SHOW HOST: We got to leave it there. We're out of time. Our coverage continues though. CNN TONIGHT with Don Lemon starts now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is CNN breaking news.
DON LEMON, CNN TONIGHT SHOW HOST: The breaking news at 10 p.m. Eastern, Donald Trump about to take the stage at any moment now in Wisconsin making a big speech on law and order.
This is CNN Tonight. I'm Don Lemon.
There you go. Live pictures now in the wake of this weekend, of the unrest in Milwaukee, Donald Trump coming down on the side of police. And again, we're waiting for Donald Trump to speak to draw to that stage in Westin, Wisconsin, he's going to give a speech again, on law and order.
I want to turn now to our, as we get ready for him, you see Reince Priebus doing on the stage. Let's got to Corey Lewandowski who is still receiving severance from the Trump campaign and also a CNN political commentator, also with me is Guy Cecil, a pro-Clinton super PAC Priorities USA.
So, again, let's take a look at the stage. We saw Reince Priebus getting up there and I guess sort of warming up the crowd in Wisconsin. He's going to give a speech on law and order.
Jason Carroll is there in the crowd as well, our correspondent. So, we're going to get analysis of all and we're going to carry the speech.
Let's go to Jason first and then we'll get to our contributor. So, Jason Carroll, welcome. The speech is about to start. Jason, what can we expect to hear?
JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think Rudy Giuliani really just set the tone, Don, from what used to come. He said a number of things talking about law and order. He spoke specifically about the incident in Milwaukee saying it's been a very, very difficult time, not just for the city of Milwaukee but also for the country.
He brought up the fact that the officer he says based on the information they have may have been acting in self-defense. He also pointed out that this officer was African-American and then told the crowd since this officer was African-American his life matters as well.
And then he said something else, Don, and something that we haven't heard much from when it comes to this campaign. He said, not only do we want white voters, we want black voters, we want Latino voters.
So once again, this is an attempt to reach beyond his base and reach out to some of those who have not been, if you will, brought into the Trump tent.
So, this is the tone that we're starting to see going forward, first from Rudy Giuliani and again from Reince Priebus, who has now taken the stage that this speech is very much going to be about law and order.
There are teleprompters on the stage behind me. So, what we're expecting is Trump to read from a scripted text. We expect him to be focused, as his supporters say, and again, we expect him to draw a very distinct difference between himself and Hillary Clinton, who Rudy Giuliani just painted as being anti-cop.
What Trump is going to do he's going to get there and he's going to say I am pro-cop, I am better able to handle crime, better able to handle terrorism going forward. Don?
LEMON: All right. Jason, stand by. We'll get back to Jason as things continue here. I want to bring in Corey Lewandowski and Guy Cecil. Corey, before I get to whether you can stick to the script, he's also supposed to talk about terrorism as well in the speech, right Corey?
COREY LEWANDOWSKI, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: That's right.
LEWANDOWSKI: That's right. That's going to be part of it. Look, it's going to be building on the narrative which he started yesterday on how to defeat ISIS and how to lay out this -- he laid out some very specific ideas yesterday about what he wanted to do as the commander- in-chief to fight ISIS. To talk about the regions of the world that are victorious right now. And I think you're going to see that built on tonight.
LEMON: We know how much he hates teleprompter. He has admitted that he doesn't like to be on the teleprompter. Everyone around and knows this. The question is, Jason said he's going to be reading from a script. Can he stay on message? What's your read on that?
LEWANDOWSKI: Well, he can stay on message. And, look, if you listen to the interview that Donald Trump gave tonight, he says he's not going to pivot, which means he's going to be authentic, he's going to be true to himself.
But the purpose of the teleprompter when he uses it is to lay out those very specific issues, those very specific talking points that he wants to make sure that the media is reporting accurately. So, that's the reason for using the teleprompter.
LEMON: He sat down an interview with the Wisconsin affiliate, our Wisconsin affiliate WKBT, again, as we wait on Donald Trump, has to go to this -- he's not going to -- there's another person. Is that Scott Walker? That's Governor Scott Walker coming out.
He was asked if he needs to change his tactic and appeal to the general election voters. Listen to this and we'll discuss.
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DONALD TRUMP, (R) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, possibly I do but, you know, I am who I am. It's me. I don't want to change everyone talks about, oh, well, you're going to pivot. You're going to -- I don't want to pivot. I mean, you have to be you. If you start pivoting, you're not being honest with people.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LEMON: So, you said that he's not going to pivot, right? He said in that interview he's not going to pivot. One day, though, after you saw the Wall Street Journal reporting, you know, saying he should step aside and give to Pence if he's not going t, you know, be a more traditional candidate, what do you think -- what do you make of that?
LEWANDOWSKI: Look, I think Donald Trump has to remain true to himself, which is authentic, which is being able to speak his mind. That's what's has gotten him to where he is today that people in the primary process voted for someone who is an outsider.
[22:05:02] And he continues to have that outside message, which is, look, I want to go to Washington and I want to change it. I don't want to be a typical politician, I don't want you to say what you think I should say. I will say what I believe in.
And that's the message that got him here, and that's the message he'll carry to Washington which is fundamental change.
LEMON: To Guy Cecil now, Guy, if Trump stays on message and he has, you know, the last speech if he does it for this speech and he continues to do so, is that dangerous for the Clinton campaign?
GUY CECIL, PRIORITIES USA CO-CHAIR & CHIEF STRATEGIST: No, because the message that he is focused on simply doesn't work in a general electorate. And I think this is the point that Corey makes in reference to the primary. We are not dealing with a primary electorate. We are not dealing with high information, high levels of interest republican primary voters.
We're dealing with the general electorate, that is younger, that's more diverse, that's more urban. And what Donald Trump is selling they're not buying. I mean, his speech yesterday was not specific, saying over and over that you're going to have extreme vetting but refusing to describe the purity test that you've decided you're going to put people through. By the way, a test that many people in his own party wouldn't pass, it's not specifics, it's bravado, it's bluster, it's deception. There have been multiple fact checks saying that the large preponderance of Donald Trump's speech yesterday was a lie.
So, no. IN fact, I want Donald Trump to stay on his message because I fundamentally believe his message will not be accepted by the majority of Americans in a general election.
LEMON: Yesterday he posted -- or today, I should say, he posted this Facebook pledge. And here is part of it. He said "We will reject bigotry, and hatred and oppression in all its forms and seek a new future built on our common culture and values as one American people," Donald J. Trump.
Is that an attempt do you think to pivotal all, a little bit you know he says he's not going to, is this campaign at odds you think with their candidate here, Guy?
CECIL: You know, in my Sunday school class we learned that you judge a tree by its fruits. Donald Trump has said a lot of things, but a man that was accused and convicted of discriminating against African- Americans when it came to housing, that has insulted Hispanic voters and Muslims since the beginning...
CECIL: ... who opposes gay marriage is not somebody...
LEMON: All right, Guy, I got to get to Donald Trump. Donald Trump is going to the stage right now introduced by Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. Here is Donald Trump.
TRUMP: Thank you. What a group. Wow. Thank you.
Thank you, everybody. Thank you. It's great to be here tonight. I'm honored also to be joined this evening by Governor Scott Walker. Great gentleman, and a great -- a really great governor. Chairman Reince Priebus and Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.
We're at a decisive moment in this election. Last week, I laid out my plan to bring jobs back to our country, desperately needed jobs. Yesterday, I laid out my plan to defeat radical Islamic terrorism.
Tonight, I'm going to talk about how to make our communities safe again from crime and lawlessness. Let me begin by thanking law enforcement officers here in this city and across this country for their service and sacrifice in difficult, difficult, difficult times. (CROWD CHEERING)
The violence, riots, and destruction that have taken place in Milwaukee is an assault on the right of all citizens to live in security and to live in peace.
Law and order must be restored.
It must be restored for the sake of all but most especially for the sake of those living in the affected communities, of which there are many.
The main victims of these riots are law abiding African-American citizens living in these neighborhoods. It's their job, it's their homes, it's their schools and communities which will suffer the most as a result.
There's no compassion in tolerating lawless conduct for anyone.
[22:09:59] Crime and violence is an attack on the poor and will never be accepted in a Trump administration.
The narrative has been pushed aggressively for years and now by our current administration and pushed by my opponent, Hillary Clinton, you know is a totally false one. You know that.
The problem in our poorest communities is not that there are too many police. The problem is that there are not enough police.
More law enforcement, more community engagement, more effective policing is what our country needs desperately. Just like Hillary Clinton is against the miners, she is against the police, believe me.
You know it and I know it and guess what, she knows it. Those peddling the narrative of cops as a racist force in our society, a narrative supported with a nod by my opponent share directly in the responsibility for the unrest in Milwaukee and many other places within our country.
They have fostered the dangerous anti-police atmosphere in America and all throughout America. Every time we rush to judgment with false facts and narrative whether in Ferguson or in Baltimore, and fermant further unrest, we do a direct disservice to poor African-American residents who are hurt by the high crime in their community, a big, big, unfair problem. During the last 72 hours, while protesters have raged against the
police here in Milwaukee, another nine were killed in Chicago and another 46 were wounded. More than 2,600 people have been shot in Chicago since the beginning of the year and almost 4,000 people killed in President Obama's hometown area since his presidency began. Not too good. That's for sure.
So, how are we serving these American victims by attacking law enforcement officers? The war on our police must end and it must end now.
The war on police is a war on all peaceful citizens who want to be able to work and live and send their kids to school in safety. Our job is not to make life more comfortable for the rioter or the robber or the looter or the violent disrupter, of which there are many.
Our job is to make life for comfortable for the African-American parent who wants their kid to be able to safely, safely walk the streets and walk to school. Or the senior citizen waiting for a bus. Or the young child walking home from school.
For every one violent protester, there are 100 moms and dads and kids on the same city block who just want to be able to sleep safely at night. They want safety.
My opponent, Hillary, would rather protect the offender than the victim. Big problem in our society. Hillary Clinton backed policies are responsible for the problems in the inner cities today and a vote for her is a vote for another generation of poverty, high crime and lost opportunities.
I care too much about my country to let this happen.
The fact is, we all care too much about our country to let this happen. Good policing saves lives.
[22:15:01] My wonderful friend, who you just heard, Rudy Giuliani, knows a thing or two about this. He's done an amazing job. The policies put into place by Rudy ultimately brought down crime by 76 percent and murder by 84 in New York.
Think of how many families were saved, how many heartache was prevented when police were put into communities and criminals were automatically and systematically removed. Imagine how many lives could have been saved all across this country if democratic politicians hadn't blocked in their cities what Rudy did in New York City.
I'll make sure we deliver safe neighborhoods here in Milwaukee and Milwaukee has got so many problem problems, so many problems, the world is watching right here in Milwaukee but also across the country.
It's easy for Hillary Clinton to turn a blind eye to crime when she has her own private security force that, by the way, carries guns, Second Amendment.
I believe all Americans, not just the powerful are entitled to security. Hillary Clinton has had her chance. She's failed at so many things, almost everything she's done. Now it's time for new leadership.
The Hillary Clinton agenda hurts poor people by far the most. There is no compassion in allowing drug dealers, gang members, and felons to prey on innocent people.
It is the first duty of government to keep the innocent safe. And when I'm president, I will fight for the safety of every American and especially those Americans who have not known safety for a very, very long time.
I'm asking for the vote of every African-American citizen struggling in our country today who wants a different and much better future.
It's time for our society to address some honest and very, very difficult truths, the Democratic Party has failed and betrayed the African-American community. Democratic crime policies, education policies, and economic policies have produced only more crime, more broken homes and more poverty.
Let us look at the situation right here in Milwaukee, a city run by democrats for decade after decade. Last year, killings in this city increased by 69 percent, plus, another 634 victims of nonfatal shootings. Eighteen to 29-year-olds accounted for nearly half of the homicide victims.
The poverty rate here is nearly double the national average. Almost 4 in 10 African-American men in Milwaukee between the ages of 25 and 54 do not have a job. Nearly 4 in 10 single-mother households are living in poverty.
Fifty public schools in this city have been rated as failing to meet expectations despite $10,000 in funding per pupil, which is a very, very high number. There's only a 60 percent graduation rate and it's one of the worst public school systems anywhere in the country.
One in five manufacturing jobs has disappeared in Milwaukee since we fully opened our markets and you understand what that means. We opened these markets to China, and many African-American neighborhoods have -- look, they have suffered.
We opened our markets, they've taken our jobs, they give us our products that we don't make anymore and African-American neighborhoods along with many other neighborhoods have suffered greatly.
To every voter in Milwaukee, to every voter living in the inner city or every forgotten stretch of our society, I'm running to offer you a much better future, a much better job.
[22:20:13] And a much higher wage.
Thank you. Thank you.
The Democratic Party has taken the votes of African-Americans for granted. They've just assume they'll get your support and done nothing in return for it. They've taken advantage of the African-American citizen.
It's time to give the democrats some competition for these votes and it's time to rebuild the inner cities of America and to reject the failed leadership of a rigged political system. And that's what it is. It's a rigged system.
I'm not part of the corrupt system. In fact, the corrupt system is trying to stop me. I've been paying my own way. Tens of millions of dollars. Tens of millions of dollars.
The votes are in the Republican Party this year defied the donors, the consultants, the power brokers and chose a nominee from outside our failed and corrupt broken system. The nominee is me.
The other party, Democratic Party, nominated the personification of special interest corruption. The Democratic Party rigged the nomination to give it to Hillary Clinton, thus giving the soul of their party this year to special interests. What else is new?
I'm running to listen to your voice, to hear the cries for help from so many people in our nation. The quiet voices in our society, not the loudest demonstrators, need to have their demands heard.
Jobs, safety, opportunity, fair and equal representation, we reject the bigotry of Hillary Clinton, which panders to and talks down to communities of color and sees them only as votes. That's all they care about. Not as individual human beings worthy of a better future. They have taken advantage.
She doesn't care at all about the hurting people of this country or the suffering she has caused them and she, meaning she, and her party officials, there has been tremendous suffering because of what they have brought.
The African-American community has been taken for granted for decades by the Democratic Party and look how they're doing. It's time to break with the failures of the past. I want to offer Americans a new and much better future. It's time for rule by the people, not rule for the special interests which we have right now.
Every insider getting rich off our broken system, and it is broken, is throwing money at Hillary Rodham Clinton.
The hedge fund managers, the Wall Street investors, the professional political class, it's the powerful protecting only the powerful. They don't care about you, believe me.
Insiders fighting for insiders but I'm fighting for you. That's what I'm doing.
When we talk about the insider, who are we talking about? It's the comfortable politicians looking out for their own interests. It's the lobbyists who know how to insert that perfect loophole into every single bill and get richer and richer and richer at your expense.
It's the financial industry that knows how to regulate their competition right out of existence so there is no competition. The insiders also include the media executives, anchors and journalists in Washington, Los Angeles and New York City who are part of the same failed status quo and want nothing to change.
[22:25:09] They don't want it to change. They like it just fine the way it is now. Every day you pick up the newspaper or turn on the nightly news and you hear about some self-interest banker or some self-discredited Washington insider saying they oppose Donald Trump's campaign.
But you don't oppose it, that I can tell you. You don't oppose it.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Great honor. It's a great honor.
And you have three times as many people standing outside trying to get in so I just want to tell you.
Thank you. Amazing. Or some encrusted old politician says they oppose our campaign or some big time lobbyist says they oppose the campaign of Trump. I wear their opposition as a badge of honor.
Because it means I'm fighting for real change, not just partisan change where everybody else gets rich but you, a rigged, rigged system. Remember it. I said it first, I'll probably be saying it for a long time, but eventually we're going to break that system.
I'm fighting and all of us across the country are fighting for a peaceful regime change in our own country. The media donor of political complex that's bled this country dry has to be replaced with a new government of, by and for the people.
The leadership clash in Washington, D.C., of country Hillary Clinton has been a member for 30 years, has abandoned the people of this country. They care about themselves. They only care about themselves.
I am going to give the people their voice back.
Think about it. The people opposing our campaign are the same people who have left our border open and let innocent people suffer as a result, including vast amounts of crime, vast amounts of drugs pouring into our country and poisoning our youth and our people.
The people opposing our campaign are the same people who have led us into one disastrous foreign war after another. One after another. No wins, no victories, no nothing.
The people opposing our campaign are the same people who lied to us about one trade deal after another. They keep getting worse. Aren't you tired of a system that gets rich at your expense? Because that's what's happening.
Aren't you tired of big media, big businesses and big donors rigging the system to keep your voice from being heard? Are you ready for change?
Are you ready for leadership that puts you, the American people, first together. First (CROWD CHEERING)
That puts our country first. America first. Remember that. America first. America first. America first.
Let's talk about what this means for the inner cities of America, a big, big problem, unsolved forever. It's time to break through the television noise, the entrenched interests which are just decimating our country and our inner cities.
I understand that a lot of powerful people are in our political system. A lot of people who have created our problems will lose a lot of their contracts and a lot of their money if African-American voters and all the minority voters support my campaign.
[22:30:07] That I know, that I know for sure. It's time to stop making the special interests rich. It's time to make the American people much richer than they've ever been before.
I'm going to make America wealthy again. We have to make American wealthy again. If we're going to do what we want to do, we have to be smart. We have to make America wealthy again.
The Democratic Party has run nearly every inner city in this country for 50 years and run them into financial ruin virtually every single one. They've ruined the schools; they've driven out the jobs. They've tolerated a level of crime no American should consider acceptable worse than many third world countries.
So bad that people don't want it even report on it. The real numbers are beyond belief. Violent crime has risen 17 percent in America's 50 largest cities last year. Killings of police officers this year is up nearly 50 percent. Homicides are up more than 60 percent in Baltimore alone.
They're up more than 50 percent in Washington, D.C. This is the future offered by the policies of Hillary Clinton and her friends. More poverty, more crime and basically, just more of the same.
The future she offers is the most pessimistic thing I can possibly imagine. It's time for a different future.
Here is what I'm proposing. First, on immigration. No community in this country has been hurt more than Hillary Clinton's immigration and all of her policies than the African-American community.
And she considers them a guaranteed vote. Now she is proposing to print instant work permits for millions of illegal immigrants to come in and take everybody's job, including low-income African-Americans. Not right. Not going to happen. I will secure our border, protect our workers and improve our jobs and
wages in your community. We're going to improve our wages, we're going to improve our jobs and we're not going to let other companies leave our country so quickly and so easily for other lands and then take their products and sell it to us. Not going to happen.
We will not only invite people to jon our country who share our tolerant values, who support our Constitution, and who love all of our people, they love our people, they have to love our country or what are we doing?
On trade, I'm going to renegotiate NAFTA, one of the worst trade deals ever signed in the history of our country, perhaps the worst ever signed in the history, frankly, of the world.
We're going to stand up to China, withdraw from TPP, which is another disaster, and protect every last American job. We are going to protect every last American job. Which we're not doing now.
On taxes, I'm going to give a massive tax cut to every worker in small business in this country, bring thousands of new companies and millions of new jobs on to our shores and make it very difficult for our businesses to leave. It will be a costly proposition for them to fire everybody and leave.
I'm going to reform our regulations so jobs stay in America and new businesses come to America to hire workers, even right here in Milwaukee.
Every policy my opponent has sends jobs outside of the country and overseas. I'm going to bring trillions and new wealth back into the United States.
[22:34:55] Our education, believe me, you look at our education, it's time to have school choice, merit pay for teachers and to end the tenure policies that hurt good teachers and reward bad teachers.
And there is no job more important than a good teacher. Please remember that. There is no job more important.
We are going to put students and parents first. Hillary Clinton would rather deny opportunity to millions of young African-American children just so she can carry favor with the education bureaucracy, which is very big and a lot of votes.
I am going to allow charter schools to thrive and help young kids get on the American ladder of success, a good education and a good paying job. That's what they want.
On crime, I am going to support more police in our communities, appoint the best prosecutors and judges in the country pursue strong enforcement of the federal laws and I'm going to break up the gangs, the cartels and the criminal syndicates terrorizing our neighborhoods all over the country and that includes Milwaukee.
To every law breaker hurting innocent people in this country I say your free reign will soon come crashing to an end.
On health care, we're going to get rid of Obamacare, repeal it and replace it.
It's caused soaring double digit premium increases and we're going to give choice to patients and to consumers across our land. Aetna just today announced that they are dropping out, as are many of the major insurance companies.
Obamacare is a disaster. It's a disaster. On government corruption, I'm going to restore honor to our government. We've seen the corruption of Hillary Clinton, the mass e-mail -- look at what's going on, folks. Look at what's going on.
The mass e-mail deletions. Have you seen the 33,000 deletions? The pay-for-play at the State Department, the profiteering, the favors given to foreign corporations and government at your expense and taxpayer's expense and it's not acceptable any longer. It's corrupt.
We've seen a former Secretary of State lie to Congress about her illegal e-mail scheme, risk innocent American lives and bring dishonor on to our government, great, great dishonor.
In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information, those laws are already protected we thought, but perhaps everybody is wrong, perhaps all of those that have served jail time were wrong.
She got special favors and nobody has ever seen anything like it in the history of our country.
No one will be above the law. I am going to forbid senior officials from trading favors for cash by preventing them from collecting lavish speaking fees through their spouses when they serve.
I am going to ask my senior officials to sign an agreement not to accept speaking fees from corporations with a registered lobbyist for five years after leaving office or from any entity tied to a foreign government.
What's happening is disgraceful. This is all just the beginning. We are going to make this a government of the people once again. This is our chance. This is it. This is it. Your last chance. This is our chance to take back power from all the people who have taken it from you over so many years.
[22:40:04] The reason you see the establishment and the establishment media lining up behind my opponent is because they are scared that you with your vote can take away their power and return it to your family and to your community.
And they are scared. And they have no idea how many people on November 8 are going to come out and vote.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
These are tough times but I know we can make America greater than ever before. I have absolutely no doubt. I have gotten to know the people of this country and I'll tell you, there are no people like the people I have gotten to know. No people.
To do this, we are going to need a fighter in the White House. I will be your fighter. Believe me, I will be your fighter.
To defeat crime and radical Islamic terrorism in our country, to win trade in our country, you need tremendous physical and mental strength and stamina.
Hillary Clinton doesn't have that strength or stamina. Believe me. And you know it and they know it and everybody knows it.
She cannot win for you. Most importantly, she has very, very bad judgment. Bad judgment on terrorism. Bad judgment on foreign policy. Bad judgment on trade. The only individuals she's ever delivered for are her donors, not the people. Just the donors.
I've said it before. I'll say it again. My opponent asks her supporters to recite a three-word pledge. Her pledge reads "I'm with her."
(CROWD BOOING) I choose to recite a totally different pledge. My pledge reads "I'm with you, the American people."
I will fight to ensure that every American is treated equally, protected equally and honored equally. We will reject bigotry and hatred and oppression in all of its many ugly forms and seek a new future of security, prosperity and opportunity, a future built on our common culture and values as one American people.
I am asking for your vote on November 8th so I can be your champion in the White House. OK? OK? I will be your champion, I will be your voice in the White House. We will bring it back. We will once again be a country of law and order.
And we will once again be a country of great and unchallenged success. To every parent who dreams for their children and to every child to dreams for their future, I say these words to you tonight.
I'm with you, I will fight for you and I will win for you.
Together we will make America strong again. We will make America safe again. And we will make America great again, greater than ever before.
[22:45:04] Thank you and God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
DON LEMON, CNN TONIGHT SHOW HOST: Donald Trump just wrapping up a speech in Wisconsin. You're looking at him live there on the lectern speaking in Wisconsin.
We're going to get some analysis. We have a panel assembled here of a lot of people. And I'm going to introduce them first.
Corey Lewandowski is here, Guy Cecil is here, Van Jones is joining me, Bruce LeVell, Kellyanne Conway, and Ana Navarro. We're going to get to them in just a moment. We've all been sitting here and listening and taking copious notes.
Our Jason Carroll is also there in the audience at the speech this evening in Wisconsin listening to Donald Trump. Do we have Jason? Jason, it was a tough law and order speech. How did supporters respond there?
JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Don, this was a speech not just about law and order but I'm sure you realize, too, this was a speech that also made an attempt to reach out to the African-American community. We've heard Donald Trump speak on a number of occasions but never in
such -- in such strong terms in terms of reaching out to the African- American community. There were several times when we heard him mention that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party, in his words, panders to the African-American community, takes advantage of the African- American community, takes advantage of poor communities.
And that he is now the answer going forward to bring not only safety back to communities like Milwaukee, but bringing back economic development to communities that, in his words, one again have been taken advantage of by the Democratic party.
Now, there's something that's very striking to me here in Washington County where we are now, Don. This is a community that is overwhelmingly white. I mean, when you look at the recent census report, I would say some 96 percent of the people who live in this county are white.
Only about 1 percent are African-American. And so, while the Trump campaign has been criticized many, many times in the past for not doing enough to reach out to African-American communities and communities of color, he did do that here.
So, he had the message but he delivered it in a place that was striking to some people here in the room as we looked around and I said to one person who was standing over on the side, she said it's sort of odd that he's delivering that speech reaching out to African- Americans in a room like where we are here.
She still agreed with what Trump had to say, she still agreed that he needed to say it but why did he say it here as opposed to being in an African-American community and delivering those words.
I think some critics are going to look at this and say his words could have had much more of an impact. But what we're seeing here is a direct attempt by the Trump campaign to do more to bring more communities of color into the tent, as you know, he's been criticized in the past as running a divisive campaign, a campaign that's not inclusive.
This was definitely a law and order speech that he delivered, but in no uncertain terms, this was also an attempt to reach out to communities of color. Don.
LEMON: Yes, Jason, that was a stark thing and I think that's the thing that's going around social media now and that people will be discussing.
He delivered a speech that many -- a lot of people may agree with but the speech he delivered it to, he was sort of speaking to the chorus, not really speaking to the folks he really needed to speak to the congregation.
Thank you very much, Jason Carroll. We'll get back to you a little bit later on. I want to bring in now former Trump campaign manager, Corey
Lewandowski. Also, Kellyanne Conway, a senior adviser for the Trump campaign, Guy Cecil of the pro-Clinton super PAC Priorities USA, Bruce LeVell of the National Coalition for Trump, and CNN political contributor Van Jones, and also CNN political commentator, Ana Navarro.
As you can see at home, everyone, I have my hands full. So, Bruce, I want to go with you since you're involved directly with the Trump campaign and to outreach among African-Americans.
To Jason's point, he's delivering the speech, he is on a national audience here on CNN and other networks but he's delivering the speech largely in front of an all-white audience when he's speaking mostly about African-Americans.
BRUCE LEVELL, NATIONAL DIVERSITY COALITION FOR TRUMP EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Well, first off, just a slight correction here. I don't work for the campaign. The National Diversity Coalition, which is the ndctrump.com, you can look on the web site is that we're not affiliated...
LEMON: Since you're working with the campaign. Aren't you - aren't you a surrogate? Aren't you trying to help Donald Trump?
LEVELL: Well, you know, we're a group of volunteers, sir.
LEVELL: You know, we're nationally all over. We represent every states in the United States from all different ethnic backgrounds, you know, from African-Americans, Hispanic Americans from every state in the country.
[22:50:07] So, we've been doing this grassroots coalition for, you know, several months since last year. And this is what surprised me when I see the polls because there's hundreds of thousands that have signed up that are part of our coalition.
And if you noticed previously throughout the several months, there have been a very culturally diverse, you know, different folks from all over the coalition, from all over the country that represent Mr. Trump and have a voice, whether you're Hispanic, African-American.
So, you know, I have to respectfully disagree on some of the polls because we have been out on the ground game going. A lot of us have surrogates from all over the states that speak to urban radio stations that go to a lot of the churches and all different groups...
LEMON: Bruce, what about specifically this speech where he talked mostly about African-Americans and he spoke about crime, he talked about the inner city, he said Hillary Clinton is bad for democrats, and Hillary Clinton bad for African-Americans.
What about this particular speech? Jason's point, why not deliver it in Milwaukee, which has a higher percentage of African-Americans, which has had so much unrest over the last couple of days, why not there, specifically to this particular speech and his audience?
LEVELL: Well, you know, with all due respect, I don't know that in terms logistics. I do know, however, when the Trump campaign comes to down. I mean, Don, we're talking about 20, 30, 40, 50,000 people.
So, in terms of venue, I don't know, you know, I can't speak for the campaign in terms of where their venue might be or what have you. I don't know, you know, Milwaukee, but I do know they try to find venues that can house 30, 40, 50,000 people. You know, I have seen that in the past.
So, you know, I'm not trying to, you know, run from the fact. But, however, you know, this message, this speech that he has tonight has been played for millions and millions of people from all over the United States, all over the world.
The other thing too, though, Don, I want to make a quick note on this that, you know, Mr. Trump has been meeting for several years with a lot of African-American pastors, a lot of Hispanic pastors, a lot of different Evangelicals, a lot of faith-based leaders across the country for many years. I've been in those meetings...
LEMON: Bruce, Bruce, I want to talk about that, but I want to get to this speech and I want to give my -- just to be fair to the other panelists.
LEMON: We'll discuss that. But I want to get to Van Jones who -- go ahead.
VAN JONES, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, first of all, the reason that he didn't go to Milwaukee is the reason he doesn't go to African- American communities in general. It's easy to sit up there and talk about a community that you're not talking to.
There are some pastors he talks to. He doesn't go. I want to draw a contrast. There was unrest the night Dr. King was killed. Bobby Kennedy, who had a palpable concern for the poor and a palpable concern for people of color and had a track record of being there went right into the heart of Gary, Indiana and spoke to those people in a moment of grief and brought peace and calm.
If Donald Trump with that message -- he's about -- he's at 1 percent of black support right now. He might be zero percent tonight because that message tonight was so shocking in its divisiveness, trying to pit blacks against Latinos, which is the worst thing that you can do, acting as if the only reason that we have problems in our community is because of democrats and not because we have not -- both parties have failed to address these underlying concerns.
I watched this speech with alarm in my heart that an American leader would walk into a situation like this with so little grace. And let me just say one more thing because I don't know we got a lot of people to talk here tonight.
LEMON: I know, but I have to get them in but go ahead.
JONES: There's a way to talk to African-Americans about the problems that we have. We're tired of going at funerals. We're tired of crime. But we are crushed right now between street violence and some unlawful police violence.
And if you care about us, you have to talk about both sides of the problem and bring us together not talk about one side of the problem and trying to buy us against Latinos. It was a despicable speech and that's not the way to bring us together.
LEMON: Ana Navarro, he spoke about law and order but the way he spoke about law and order and criminality and crime, it was as if African- Americans commit all the crime in this country and we know that that is not true. But that's what I got from the speech. What's your takeaway?
ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: You know, the speech had some good lines in it, frankly, rich, very rich lines coming from Donald Trump. It's almost laughable to hear him at this point say that we're going to reject bigotry and hatred when he's been doing nothing but fanning the flames of bigotry, division, and hatred for this entire campaign.
I think the speech was a good speech in some respects. But here's the problem. Any well-trained parent or parakeet can read a speech, can regurgitate a speech, can regurgitate words.
It's when the man goes off script, it is when he speaks from his heart, it is when he speaks when he speaks what's in his mind that we get really, really scared. He goes the way off the reservation and he says things that are offensive, divisive.
[22:55:01] He does things like mock the reporters, he does things like call African-Americans look at my African-American over there.
LEMON: Quickly, Ana. I got...
NAVARRO: He says that a Hispanic judge that was born in the United States can't do his job because of his heritage. And there is - yu know, judge a man, not by what he reads, judge a man by what he says when he's not reading.
LEMON: And actions as well. I want to get Kellyanne. Because, Kellyanne, I would imagine you didn't get the takeaway from the speech that some of us got when I said, you know, he made it seem as if and I don't know if that was his intention but as a person of color, that only people of color in this country commit crimes.
KELLYANNE CONWAY, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: He didn't say that.
LEMON: But that's what -- that's what he...
CONWAY: Nor does he think it or mean it.
LEMON: I didn't hear him mention any other grout but African- Americans and crime?
CONWAY: Don, I think the commentary...
LEMON: Did you hear him mention any other group?
CONWAY: ... I think the commentary in this entire program so far...
LEMON: Wait, before you get -- hang on. Before you answer...
CONWAY: Excuse me, I didn't take copious...
LEMON: Before you answer, did you hear him answer any other group beside African-Americans?
CONWAY: What I heard him do today -- what I heard him do tonight, which is incredibly important is answer the call a lot of complainers that he never...
LEMON: You can say that, Kellyanne, but I want you to answer my question first. What you're saying no, and I'm telling you that is what many people received. Many -- I can show you that many received that.
CONWAY: And many people did not.
LEMON: Did you hear -- did you hear him mention any other group besides African-Americans when it comes to crime in this particular speech?
CONWAY: What I heard him say is...
LEMON: Yes or no, Kellyanne.
CONWAY: I don't recall, but why are you badgering me?
LEMON: OK. I'm not badgering me. I'm trying to get a straight answer from you.
CONWAY: You are. You are badgering me.
LEMON: And then you can go on and answer the question.
CONWAY: You allowed three people to criticize his speech.
LEMON: They answered my question directly. And when I heard of course, I told them to get back on.
CONWAY: You didn't ask them this actual question about the speech.
CONWAY: But anyway.
LEMON: So, but did you didn't hear him say that?
CONWAY: So, anyway, this is what I heard him say. I heard him talk about facts and figures. If anybody wants to dispute the facts and figures then I'd like to hear that.
She wants to talk -- Hillary Clinton wants his campaign to be about tone and temperament. He's making it about facts and figures. Is is a fact of is it fantasy that in a major cities, for a number of years now, decades in fact in some of our major cities, Don, when we have had democratic mayors and city councils, what has happened to the education system?
What has happened to the poverty rate, which affect all races, by the way? What has happened to the flawlessness? What has happened to the lack of opportunities, the crime, the street crime that Van is talking about? So, Donald Trump...
JONES: Crime has gone down. Crime has been going down.
CONWAY: Tell the people -- tell the victims of crime that...
LEMON: Let her finish, Van.
CONWAY: .. that they don't feel that it's going down.
JONES: Crime has been going down. Yes, it's going down. That's a fact. You said facts and figures. So, if you're going to talk about fact and figures, the fact is crime has been going down across the country.
And we do have some spots where there's a lot of pain and suffering, but republicans should not -- you've never gone to a funeral. You only bring these things up when you can beat up a democrat. Come to the community and be with us and we'll listen to us.
CONWAY: Van, I've been to the community plenty of times, OK. And then you want all the studies... (CROSSTALK)
LEMON: But, Kellyanne, Kellyanne, can we just listen...
CONWAY: Excuse me, I work with chartered schools in this city, in Harlem...
LEMON: Kellyanne, let me just stop here everyone.
CONWAY: ... in The Bronx, Chartered schools is a way to give them -- really?
LEMON: Kellyanne, we're trying to have a conversation. And we want to -- yes, we want to have an honest conversation, and if you're not answering the questions, what we're trying to do is come to some consensus here about Donald Trump's speech.
I asked you a very similar -- hang on, please. I ask you a very simple question. All you have to do is answer yes or no and then go on with your point. Van is trying to make a point to you. No one is attacking you. We're just trying to get and honest and direct answer out of you, and you go, thanks for inviting me.
CONWAY: I don't feel surprise.
LEMON: OK, then go on and answer the question but you should...
CONWAY: Everyone else got to respond the way they wanted to.
LEMON: I am allowing you to speak, but I am telling you that I'm...
CONWAY: I heard about bigotry. I heard about judges...
LEMON: I'm feeling animosity from you then there's no animosity. I'm just trying to get you to answer the question and you're not doing that.
CONWAY: I'm not -- I have no animosity, Don.
LEMON: But go on.
CONWAY: To say what I want to say about the speech?
LEMON: Go on, yes.
CONWAY: OK. As I was saying before, if you want to talk about facts and figures, let's have a conversation, were there any facts that he raised that were not true, were there any figures about these democratically controlled cities where all the problems that he has identified have been on the rise.
Is there anything he said about the media consultant donor class rigged through up system where Hillary Clinton is a card carrying member of that, where they nominated somebody who is part of the system that doesn't benefit the little guy, doesn't benefit any of us, hurts the outsiders?
Is there anything he said there that was not true? I'm telling you, if you talk about facts and figures and not just tone and temperament the way people just want this whole campaign to be over because they want to talk about that and to find it the way they want to find it.
LEMON: Tone and temperament are not important at all in this campaign?
CONWAY: Did I say that? Did I say that?
LEMON: No, but that's what you're insinuating. So, what do you...
CONWAY: Here's what I gather today. No, I'm not insinuating anything. I don't insinuate.
LEMON: So, if you say tone -- if I ask you -- if I ask you are tone and temperament important in this campaign, you can say yes or no. You don't have to say did I say that.
CONWAY: You said so they're not important.
LEMON: So, you can say yes, they are.
CONWAY: Of course they're important.
LEMON: OK. Then that's a fair answer.
CONWAY: But many things -- you know what else is important? The fact that United Health Care said it suffered a billion dollars in losses because of Obamacare it pulled out of 30 states. You know what else is important to people of all color? That $430 million absorbed in losses by Aetna that pulled out of 11 or 15 states.
You don't think that Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act is a disaster that President Obama and Hillary Clinton own? I think that affects lots of people. Those are facts and figures nobody just wants to talk about them.
People want to criticize Donald Trump for not reaching out to the African-American community and then when he gives one speech, they attack him for not doing it the way they think he should do it.
LEMON: I don't think anyone is attacking Donald Trump. I think we're giving a read on what people are feeling about this...
[23:00:01] CONWAY: You missed the first 10 minutes of your show then.
LEWANDOWSKI: Don, a part of what Kellyanne is talking about is here that initial question...
(CROSSTALK) LEMON: Corey, please stand by. Because I have to reset, it's the top of the hour. Excuse me.
It's the top of the hour. This is CNN TONIGHT. I'm Don Lemon.
We're starting with Donald Trump's speech.