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Major Shake-Up In Trump Campaign; FBI Gives Congress Report On Clinton E-mails; Russia Launches More Syria Airstrikes From Iran; S. Korea: Top North Korean Diplomat Defects; South Africans Rally Around Caster Semenya; Rio Police Looking Into Claim Ryan Lochte Was Robbed
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ROBYN CURNOW, CNN ANCHOR: North Korean diplomat defects to the south. And thousands flee fires in California.
Hi there. Welcome. I'm Robyn Curnow at the CNN center. And we start with Donald Trump's campaign overhaul. He's sagging in the polls and even
feeling even more heat from fellow Republicans. Now, just 83 days away from the election. So, will these latest changes help revive his campaign?
Well, CNN's Jessica Schneider has more.
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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thank you.
JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump shaking up his campaign leadership team again, for the second time in two months.
KELLYANNE CONWAY, TRUMP CAMPAIGN SENIOR ADVISER: People want to criticize Donald Trump.
SCHNEIDER: Senior Adviser Kellyanne Conway confirming that she has been promoted to campaign manager. And the executive chairman of Breitbart News
Steve Bannon is now the campaign's chief executive. The campaign's embattled chairman, Paul Manafort, will stay on despite his relationship
with Trump going sour in recent weeks.
TRUMP: The campaign is doing really well. It's never been so well united.
PAUL MANAFORT, TRUMP CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN: Trump is very plugged in, he's very connected. The campaign's working, contrary to what the media is
SCHNEIDER: Manafort is under investigation by Ukrainian authorities for allegedly receiving millions in illegal payments from the country's former
pro-Russian ruling party. This is the second major shake-up for Trump's team. Back in June, he fired Corey Lewandowski weeks before the Republican
TRUMP: He's a good man. We've had great success. He's a friend of mine. But I think it's time now for a different kind of a campaign.
COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Yeah I had a nice conversation with Mr. Trump. And I said to him, it's been an honor and a
privilege to be part of this.
SCHNEIDER: The news comes as Trump tries to appeal to black voters in Wisconsin, but the audience was mostly white.
TRUMP: I'm asking for the vote of every African-American citizen struggling in our country today who wants a different and much better
SCHNEIDER: Trump addressing the violent protests in Milwaukee after police shot and killed a black man, Saturday.
TRUMP: Those peddling the narrative of cops as a racist force in our society, a narrative supported with a nod by my opponent, shared directly
in the responsibility for the unrest in Milwaukee and many other places within our country.
SCHNEIDER: He's placing the blame for inner city unrest squarely on what he calls failed Democratic policies.
TRUMP: The African-American community has been taken for granted for decades by the Democratic Party. It's time for rule by the people not rule
for the special interests. Hillary Clinton backed policies are responsible for the problems in the inner cities today, and a vote for her is a vote
for another generation of poverty, high crime and lost opportunities.
SCHNEIDER: With only 83 days until the election, Trump is digging in on his combative style in hopes of turning around his slide in the polls.
TRUMP: I am who I am. It's me. You have to be you. If you start pivoting, you're not being honest with people.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CURNOW: OK. That was Jessica Schneider reporting there. Well, I want to bring in David Swerdlick, he's assistant editor at "The Washington Post"
who always gives us excellent perspective.
So, tell us David, I mean, what does this shake up tell you? What does it indicates about the state of his campaign right now?
DAVID SWERDLICK, "THE WASHINGTON POST" ASSISTANT EDITOR: Well, Robyn, I see two things. On the one hand, it shows that Trump is trying to be
nimble. He's not taking his recent slide in the polls sitting down lightly. He's going to shake up his team and try and, you know, finish
this campaign the last three months in a strong fashion win or lose.
So he's bringing in Kellyanne Conway, a respective pollster, Steve Bannon, a little more of a wildcard. I think the early reports suggest that Conway
is there to keep him on message. Steve Bannon is there with this idea. Just as you played in the clip there, that Trump doesn't want to just pivot
to being this lukewarm general election candidate. That he wants to be an alternative anti-establishment candidate. And I think that's the message
that Steve Bannon is going to bring to the campaign.
CURNOW: So what does that mean? I mean, are we going to see more of Trump doubling down on many of the points that many people took offense with? I
mean, our cnn.com writes says that, you know, is he willing to go scorched earth here?
SWERDLICK: Well, that's just the thing with Donald Trump, right? We don't exactly know. I mean, even if you praise him for having the sort of moxie
to shake up his campaign at this late stage, you've got to look at last night, right? He gave a major speech last night where he tried -- I don't
think he completely succeeded, but he tried to reach out to African- American voters, voters of color, talked about issues near and dear to African-Americans and yet he overshadowed his own speech, his own messaging
with news about the internal workings of his campaign. So you just never know quite what you're going to get with Donald Trump.
CURNOW: So you're down in deep. Well, let's just talk about timing, though.
CURNOW: We know it's 83 days but does he have enough time to claw back a lot of his gains. I mean, the election is in November but early voting
begins, well, much sooner.
SWERDLICK: Early voting begins within a couple of weeks. Look, if Trump can settle down on a couple of core messages, the message that he put out
last night about his outreach to voters of color, the message that he's been, you know, sort of putting out on the campaign trail the last couple
of days about the way he's going to combat ISIS, the message that he's got about taxes and about reforming some of the aspects of the American
economy. If he can stick to those things, then yes, I think 80 or 85 days is enough time to turn around a campaign. But if he gets sidetracked on
some of the fights that he's had with the Khan family, with the Clinton campaign, with some of his untoward comments about people involved in the
campaign about Judge Curiel a few weeks ago, then it is going to be tough for him with the amount of time left.
And we have debates bearing down on us, Robyn, in a few weeks at the end of September, it's going to be tough for him to right the ship and get his
poll numbers turned around.
CURNOW: And where does this leave the Republican Party and donors?
SWERDLICK: Well, if he goes in this far right anti-establishment direction, as some people think he might go at this point, and if he says,
look, I'm not going to pivot. If he goes back to what some people are referring to as what Corey Lewandowski was doing, let Trump be Trump. Then
it might be a problem long-term for the Republican Party.
After the 2012 election when President Obama beat Mitt Romney, the Republican Party, the Republican National Committee, did the infamous
autopsy report where they said the Republican Party needed to change its message to broaden its tent, to expand its electorate and they really
didn't do that in the midterms or in this cycle. If Trump goes further in that direction, it's going to be a problem for Republicans long-term. If
Trump can somehow run a more traditional strategic campaign, then maybe Republicans will have something to build on going in to the next midterm
elections in 2018.
CURNOW: Yeah, but there's certainly might be effects down-ballot.
David Swerdlick, thank you so much again for joining us from "The Washington Post."
SWERDLICK: Thank you.
CURNOW: Appreciate it.
Well, the FBI has sent its report on Hillary Clinton's e-mails to Congress. Republicans wanted the report which contains notes from interviews with
Clinton and other witnesses. It's rare for the FBI to offer details on cases and investigate when no charges are filed. Now the report is
classified, but the Clinton campaign wants it released to the public to avoid what it calls partisan leaks by Republicans.
And now to the war in Syria and day two of a shift in Russian tactics. Russia says it's taken out two ISIS command centers, near Deir-ez-Zor and
150 militants during air strikes in Syria.
This is the second day of strikes. Russia is launching from bases in Iran. The move has gotten criticism from the U.S. which believes a U.N. Security
Council resolution prohibits the transfer of combat planes to Iran. Russia says it's not doing that, it's just simply using an air base.
Well, to an event that could play out as a huge propaganda coup or huge embarrassment depending on which part of the Korean peninsula you're on.
South Korea says, a high ranking North Korean official has defected and is now under the protection of the South Korean government. And Seoul
identified him as the number two diplomat at North Korea's embassy in the U.K.
Well, CNN's David Molko joins us now from South Korea. This is a very intriguing case. Tell us what we know.
DAVID MOLKO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, Robyn, it's definitely intriguing. You know, we've come to expect surprises from North Korea. I
don't think anybody really expected this. South Korea's unification ministry just coming out in the last few hours and saying the highest
ranking North Korean diplomat ever to defect to South Korea, that's how they're characterizing it.
His name is Thae Yong-ho. He was the number two at the North Korean embassy in London. He is here now in South Korea with his wife and
children. They're not saying how he got here, they're not saying when. But in a statement the spokesperson for the Unification Ministry shed a
little light maybe on the "why", they said, "We understand that Thae said he defected because he was tired of Kim Jong-un's regime. And because he
respects the democratic system of South Korea and his children and his future."
Interesting to know that's how the South Koreans are characterizing this. Of course, the North Koreans could see it very differently. We imagine
some embarrassment. No response yet, Robyn, from the North Koreans, but we'll be watching that very, very closely to see how they react to this
CURNOW: You make a good point. The big question is why, sort of been answered, but also the how. I mean, this was playing out in London. How
did he defect with his family? And this wasn't recently. I think it happened at the beginning of the month.
MOLKO: Robyn, another story is, of course, stretching across multiple time zones here. You know, this defect stories are so interesting, but this
particular one, unusual, because he is so high ranking. The last official we saw potentially of this stature was back in April of this year. This
was described by the South Koreans as a senior North Korean intelligence officer. They wouldn't say any more than that.
Another defection we've seen recently, Robyn, worth mentioning, a group of restaurant workers, young restaurant workers from North Korea working in
China. They defected to South Korea, a group of -- 13 of them. South Korea maintained they were escaping the regime. The North Koreans
characterized it as they were tricked into coming across.
This though, the reason, this is so critical, Robyn, the intelligence opportunities for South Korea here as well as propaganda, the political
aspect of it able to sort of say to people here, look, potentially, at least in the words of South Koreans and the Unification Ministry, things
are getting so bad in North Korea that even their top diplomats are now joining us.
CURNOW: Yeah, and I think that's what's so important here. The propaganda value is one thing but in terms of intelligence very key because,
obviously, North Korea, a very secretive nation, one of the most secretive nations in the world. And also, as you say, this is a diplomat. This is a
whole different level to a group of waiters.
MOLKO: That's right, Robyn. And you hit the nail on the head there. We don't know a lot about North Korea. We're very, very limited in the amount
of information we get out. And the thing is here, could this potentially shed light, could this gentleman, Mr. Thae Yong-ho, the number two at the
North Korean embassy in London, could he shed some light, particularly, maybe, on North Korea's nuclear programs or missile programs that are going
on right now?
You know, we've seen a number of launches across the past few months including just a couple of weeks ago some midrange missiles being tested.
It appears, though, that Mr. Thae was in more of a public diplomacy role. There are some videos of him online trying to sell the North Korean
lifestyle to the British public, even comparing the size of his flat in London to his flat in Pyongyang.
Still, definitely intelligence opportunity here. And the South Koreans are not going to disclose any more information about this. But you can imagine
that they are very, very excited and thrilled about this opportunity
CURNOW: Yeah, thanks so much. David Molko there. Appreciate it.
Well, still ahead, fires and floods are carving out two enormous disaster areas in the U.S. right now. A wildfire in Southern California is raging
out of control. And at the same time, frustration and heartache builds as epic flooding inundates Southern Louisiana.
CURNOW: Fifteen minutes past the hour. I'm Robyn Curnow. In Southern Louisiana, record flooding setting natural disaster records in the U.S.
since Superstorm Sandy.
CNN's Boris Sanchez is in the flood zone. He joins us now. We've been talking to you for the past few days. And this is really again,
unprecedented flooding. And how are people dealing with it now?
BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Robyn, they are waiting and watching. The key word you used, "unprecedented." This back water
flooding, flooding that's caused by bodies of water getting into neighborhoods overflowing into neighborhoods, I should say, that's the main
problem right now. Where we're standing is an area that didn't get that much rain but because the ground is saturated all the flood water has moved
down and it's gone into these homes.
This is the town of Gonzales and it's the last stop, I'm told, right before the Mississippi River. The water is receding very slowly. It's taking a
long time to get out of these neighborhoods. So that's caused a lot of frustration. People are trying to get inside their homes, they're trying
to get an idea of just how extensive the damage is.
It's fortunate that we have a drone live flying over us right now to give you a bigger picture of what we're seeing here. More than 60,000 people
have had to request federal aid from FEMA. Tens of thousands are forced out of their homes. Many are still without power. Ten people last night
were arrested for looting. So that gives you an idea of the despair that there is.
Fortunately, though there is some rain in the forecast, it doesn't compare to what we saw in the last week where almost seven million gallons of water
fell on this area, Robyn.
CURNOW: That is extraordinary visuals not showing us -- not just showing us the scope of this but also just how you're reporting in the middle of
all of this. Give us also a sense of the aftermath. As you say, water's receding. The questions about Zika, for example, what are people saying
SANCHEZ: Well, it's a very difficult thing to pay attention to. One of the concerns, obviously, has to be Zika because you have a lot of water
just sitting around. Fortunately, the director of the CDC is monitoring the situation. From what we understand the kind of mosquito that carries
the virus does not thrive in the kind of environments where this water comes from in swamps, rivers or lakes. It's actually a mosquito that lives
inside of homes or other structures where there is standing water.
So their concern isn't necessarily for the floodwater. It's for the water that's staying in homes right now that people may not be getting to, to get
out of their homes. That's where this mosquito thrives and breeds. So obviously, it's something that's being monitored, but it is not an
immediate concern fortunately.
CURNOW: And this all, as you've been saying, once in a thousand year events, but they seem to be happening with more regularity, questions
around climate change and also how government authorities prepare for this kind of event.
SANCHEZ: The authorities here in Louisiana have not mentioned that specifically. Mostly they've stayed on search and rescue efforts and now
slowly the recovery effort. But it is something interesting.
Just a few weeks ago, we, or rather, a few months ago, we had similar flooding in this area in March. Before that, obviously, we had hurricane
Katrina in this area. I actually spoke to a man who moved out of New Orleans because his home was destroyed during hurricane Katrina. Now, he
lives in this neighborhood, he says he has several inches of water inside his home. So, the frequency is certainly something that will be looked
into, but it's not something that officials are talking about right now.
CURNOW: Boris Sanchez in the flood zone. Thank you so much.
Well, a fast growing wildfire has forced some 82,000 people to flee their homes in Southern California. In 24 hours, the blaze has grown
dramatically. Look at these images as it scorched more than 7,200 square kilometers in San Bernardino County, east of Los Angeles.
As of the last update we've gotten from authorities, the fire is zero percent contained. Tens of thousands of homes are under threat. Hundreds
of firefighters are battling those flames. And we'll keep you updated on that.
Meanwhile, the U.S. Coast Guard is speeding to a ferry boat fire near San Juan, Puerto Rico. A coast guard spokesman says more than 500 people
aboard the ferry are preparing to abandon ship. He says the fire broke out in the engine room of the Caribbean Fantasy. And it's a passenger and
cargo ship that routinely runs between Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. There are no reports so far of injuries.
Hit by heat. Women are now circling the track in Rio hoping to qualify for the 800-meter final. In fact, they might have been done already but in
this race, all eyes are on Caster Semenya. The South African won silver in London and recorded a new personal base time last month. But a debate is
bubbling around what just makes her so extraordinary.
Now, she has a condition called hyperandrogenism. It means her body produces elevated levels of testosterone. And the rules have gone back and
forth over whether athletes with that condition can compete and how.
Let's get into debate around the stellar athlete. CNN's David McKenzie joins us from Johannesburg, South Africa. Amanda Davies is in Rio.
Hi there, Amanda. Just talk us through the scrutiny of Caster Semenya's testosterone levels and take us through this controversy.
AMANDA DAVIES, CNN WORLD SPORTS REPORTER: Well, Robyn, since Caster Semenya burst on to the scene as an 18-year-old in 2009 winning gold at the
world championships, she has absolutely been the center of controversy. It started with those very public questions that you, of course, will remember
from your time in South Africa about her gender. It was emerged that before she was allowed to compete, she'd been forced to undergo a gender
And in fact, as you said, what it is that Caster Semenya has this condition called hyperandrogenism which that her body produces more testosterone than
women naturally, normally do. And, by consequence, so that means that she's able to run faster.
The governing body of international athletics, the IAAF then tried to impose some limits on her. They tried to or they went through a period of
suggesting that she took hormones in order to try and reverse the effects of that. And undoubtedly, her performance did slow down.
But, another athlete with the same condition then decided to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and Semenya and her team followed that very,
very closely. And the Court of Arbitration for Sport ruled last year that there wasn't enough information known about this. There just needs to be
more research and study done.
And so, as of last year, whilst this research is being done, Semenya has been able to compete as she is. And she has been running times that have
been faster and faster and better than ever. She posted the fastest 800- meter time in eight years just last month in Monaco.
ROBYN: And David, to you, I mean, many South Africans see criticism of her as having humiliating racist undertones. So, there's actually quite a
vocal campaign to support her, isn't there?
DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, yes. I mean, you know, many South Africans feel this is an athlete, not a scientific guinea pig who
should be really put through this level of public scrutiny and also this level of shame that she had to initially undergo.
There has been a shift in opinions certainly. Today, here's the paper, run, Caster, run, that's the major Johannesburg paper. Everyone it seems -
- at least the ones I've spoken to and on social media are behind the athlete.
Here's a couple of them from Twitter. "You strike, Caster, you strike us all" said one user. "Isn't the point of the Olympics is to celebrate
genetically superior individuals? Well then." And finally, "She's a woman. Simple."
So I think the feeling here in South Africa is this athlete is a superior athlete. She could end up being the first South African woman to win a
gold medal post isolation and there is pride here rather than controversy. Robyn?
CURNOW: Amanda, back to you. The athletic world, though, is divided over her. What did other runners been saying about her presence of this
Olympics? I mean, does she have their support, particular if she wins a medal?
DAVIES: I think, oftenly, Robyn, openly other athletes haven't said anything. It's because they're very difficult and sensitive issue. As
we've been saying, this is a 25-year-old woman who has done absolutely nothing wrong. Let's, you know, be clear. She is not trying to cheat.
She is not bending the rules. She is not taking drugs. This is a naturally occurring condition. And yes, it means that she runs faster than
But there are questions being asked, the moral, the ethical questions about whether or not she should be here in this position at all. The feeling
really is that the authorities have let her down. The likes of the likes IAAF, the IOC should have made this more of a priority to do more research
into this, sooner, to draw a line in the sand wherever that may be, but really, to try and put these questions to bed.
Paula Radcliffe, the former world record holder said, "When there is no question that Caster Semenya is going to win every race she competes in,
then that is not a race." But, the Olympic charter, Robyn, states, "Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport without
discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit."
So, from that basis, Caster Semenya absolutely should be here doing what she's doing without having to take any other drugs or face any of this
scrutiny. I tell you, she has just won her 800-meter hit. She is very much the favorite for gold here.
CURNOW: Yes, I was going to face our audience on that as well.
David, to you, when I was reporting this case, when I was based in Joburg as well, a few years again, this -- when the controversy hit the headlines,
I just think you remember that many South Africans actually weren't behind her, that she didn't have universal support. What do you think changed?
MCKENZIE: Well, that's right and I remember that, too. And that, you know, some South Africans that are taking the moral high grounds today and
in previous days reacting mostly to foreign media reports questioning the fairness of Caster Semenya running. You know, some people might say that
it's a little rich because in the first years that she burst on to the scene there was some level of ridicule here in South Africa, unfortunately.
I think, partly, what changed was the way that the governing body's handled that initial win by her on the world athletic stage as Amanda describes.
That gender test that she had to go through was leaked to the media before, in fact, she ran that final, and many people, I think, that was a turning
point here in South Africa feeling that her privacy had been impeded and that she should be allowed to race and run for the South African green and
CURNOW: Yeah. OK, thanks to you both. David and Amanda, appreciate it.
You're watching CNN. And the fallout from Turkey's failed coup continues. We'll explain why that's good news for thousands of prisoners there.
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CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It's a crucial time for people of the world to address the plight of civilians in Aleppo.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was a house wrecked.
WARD: Neither side is able to win a decisive victory. This is actually hell. This is what hell feels like. And there's no way it can get any
worst than this. But it did. It got a lot worst.
I sat in the apartment of an elder woman called Suad (ph), who lost three of her sons in this war. And I asked Suad, "Why don't you Aleppo?" And
she answered me very simply, "Why should I leave Aleppo? This is my home."
Let me tell you this is not going to end in week, it could take years and tens of thousands of people could be killed. I have been a war
correspondent for more then 10 years, I have never seen anything on the scale of Aleppo. There are no winners in Aleppo.
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CURNOW: Welcome to the "International Desk." Thanks for joining me. I'm Robyn Curnow. Here's a check of the headlines.
Donald Trump has overhauled his campaign staff for the second time in two months. He promoted two officials to top posts. One of them calls of an
expansion of the campaign team. Trump made the changes in his polls that show Hillary Clinton expanding her lead in key battleground states.
And South Korea says this high ranking North Korean official has defected. Seoul identified him as Thae Yong-ho, as the number two diplomat of North
Korea's embassy in the U.K. It says Thae and his family are now under the protection of the South Korean government.
Exactly one day after it began, a wildfire in Southern California has forced the sudden and mandatory evacuation of more than 80,000 people.
This is happening right now in San Bernardino County just east of Los Angeles. The fire is zero percent contained and weather conditions are not
favorable for firefighters and evacuees who are wondering whether they'll have a house to go home to.
And there is a new twist in the struggle for dominance among drug cartels in Mexico. The son of the powerful drug kingpin known as El Chapo has been
identified as one of the six men kidnapped from a resort restaurant earlier this week. Nick Valencia joins me in the studio with more.
OK, so you got new reporting on this. What are you hearing?
NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I just got off the phone with a senior Mexican law enforcement official who tells me that they've narrowed the
search for Ivan, Alfredo, the 29-year-old son of El Chapo, to four states in Mexico, Nayarit, Jalisco, and Michoacan are those included.
And this is an interesting development. This source tells me they believed that La Nueva Generacion de Jalisco, The New Generation of Jalisco, may be
responsible for this kidnapping.
We'll tell you why that's important. They used to be the armed enforcers of the Sinaloa Federation. Of course this is El Chapo's cartel. Up until
very recently, they were helping the Sinaloa Federation keep their turf against the rival carter Los Zetas.
All of that change in January with the recapture of El Chapo. And since then, in the last seven month, La Nueva Generacion de Jalisco, which is the
fastest growing cartel in Mexico, has started to chip away or tried to chip away at the turf of the Sinaloa Federation.
This kidnapping is believed to have happened on Monday at 1:00 a.m. local time in the main strip of Puerto Vallarta, which is a popular tourist
destination. This source tells me they believe that the son of El Chapo, Ivan, Alfredo, was caught off guard and that this is a significant
development in the power structure of the Sinaloa Federation.
The two sons of El Chapo, two of the nine is suspected to believe to have, or part of this new leadership. However, they weren't taking it seriously
according to this source. They've been caught partying a lot, according to the source, and they were caught off guard when this rival, suspected
rivals stormed into this restaurant and kidnapped them about 1:00 a.m. on Monday.
CURNOW: OK, so we know these drug cartels are extremely violent.
CURNOW: And they use violence and torture to send a message.
CURNOW: How likely is it that he's going to get out of this alive?
VALENCIA: This is not a situation he wants to be in. I'm sure he is being criticized within the Sinaloa Federation for essentially letting his guard
down. According to this source, a senior Mexican law enforcement source, they weren't taking the proper precautions to protect themselves. They
weren't running the organization as a business, as it were.
The Sinaloa Federation is supposed to be the largest cartel and the most powerful cartel in all of Mexico. A lot of that dynamic has changed,
Robyn, since the capture of El Chapo.
And sources have told us that El Chapo was effectively running the cartel from inside the prison. So long as he has visitors, people that are able
to come in, his attorneys, his wife, for instance, he's able to get information out to the cartels. But he's not the guy making the day-to-day
logistical decisions. That was supposed to be his sons. Now that one of those sons is captured, that changes things.
Now this source also was not able to confirm that Ivan Archivaldo, which is the eldest son of El Chapo, the Jalisco state attorney general said that he
was believed to be among those six kidnapped. Our source has not confirmed that. But that is a working theory right now. Again, this has been
narrowed down to four states. It's been a couple of days now since he's been kidnapped. Not a situation he wants to be in.
CURNOW: No. Nick, thanks so much for updating us. Thank you.
VALENCIA: You got it, Robyn.
CURNOW: Well, Turkey plans to release 38,000 prisoners who were jailed last month, jailed before last month, failed coup. Now, officials there
insist this isn't amnesty. Since the July 15th coup attempt more than 35,000 people have been detained or arrested. About a third of them have
been released. This is sensation. Only applies to those sentenced before July 1st and excludes anyone doing time for most serious crimes like murder
And the president of the Philippines promised to crack down on drug trafficking when he took office less than two months ago. Since then, more
than 600 drug suspects have been shot dead and hundred of government officials have been named as having ties to the drug trade. The president
says there's more to come.
Well Ivan Watson joins us now from Manila with more. Hi there, Ivan.
IVAN WATSON, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Robyn, that's right. The President Duterte, he gave a fiery and defiant speech to police
officers here in Manila earlier today in which he basically instructed them to continue the shoot to kill policy that he has clarified, saying that if
any suspected drug offender resists arrest, shoot and shoot to kill.
And he denounced critics from human rights circles, from the United Nations, saying they simply don't understand how drastic and dramatic the
drug problem is in this country, describing it almost in apocalyptic terms saying that methamphetamines were threatening to destroy future generations
Now, I sat down with his right-hand man, the new commander of the police force here. He has the nickname "The rock." He's a police general. And
he said that the goal of President Duterte is to completely wipe out illegal drugs on this island nation.
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WATSON: What have you achieved in these first seven weeks?
RONALD DELA ROSA, PHILPPINES NATIONAL POLICE CHIEF DIRECTOR: So far we were able to process almost 600,000 drug personalities. And about a couple
of thousands who are arrested and about almost 600 who were killed.
WATSON: The 600 who were killed were killed by police?
DELA ROSA: By police during police operations.
WATSON: Are the police being ordered to kill suspected drug dealers?
DELA ROSA: You have to kill them if they endanger our lives.
WATSON: Have you ordered the police to try to apprehend any of these vigilante killers?
DELA ROSA: Yeah, that's my order. That's my order.
WATSON: So, how do you feel when you see an image of somebody dead on the sidewalk with the cardboard sign "pusher" next to them?
DELA ROSA: Mixed emotions. Mixed emotions. I pity the guy for losing his life, at the same time I see it as one less pusher, minus one.
WATSON: So there are pros and cons to these vigilante killings?
DELA ROSA: Yeah, there are pros and cons.
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WATSON: Now, Robyn, General Dela Rosa has agreed to appear before a senate inquiry next week looking into just the hundreds of police killings as well
as mysterious extrajudicial killings. President Duterte clearly doesn't like this. In his speech today, he called the Senator, who is calling this
inquiry, an immoral woman. Robyn?
CURNOW: So what is the response by ordinary Filipinos? I mean, what are they saying about these tactics, this heavy handedness?
WATSON: According to a poll last month, from a reputable polling agency here, about 91 percent of Filipinos surveyed said they had confidence and
trust in the new president. So, there are signs that this is -- this crackdown is in immensely popular. It's part of the reason why he swept to
power in elections last spring.
I've been to visit jails, I've been to visit an overcrowded rehabilitation center, and both relatives of drug addicts and patients there told us that
they also support the crackdown. That said, all of them said there is a great deal of fear on the streets, and the drug rehabilitation specialists
say new drug addicts that they're getting at these overcrowded drug rehabilitation centers are all coming because they're basically afraid of
getting shot and killed on the streets as that is happening every week here in the Philippines since President Duterte came to office and launched this
deadly drug war. Robyn?
CURNOW: Important story, thanks so much. Ivan Watson there in Manila.
Well, coming up. A U.S. tech company looks to the sky to make life-saving deliveries. We'll explain how it works. Stay with us.
CURNOW: Welcome back. In many parts of the world getting life-saving medical supplies to people who need them is a real challenge. However, it
takes our toughest partnered with a shipping giant to help solve that problem. Zain Asher explains how it works.
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KELLER RINAUDO, ZIPLINE CO-FOUNDER AND CEO: So, well, we're going to unload this package into a vehicle that we're about to fly.
ZAIN ASHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: When a start-up tech company partners with one of the biggest logistics companies in the world, innovation takes
RINAUDO: Launching Zip 16 (ph) in three, two, one.
ASHER: The company is called Zipline. This U.S. based team makes drones or, as they call it, zips, that deliver medical supplies to hard-to-reach
areas. They've partnered with UPS and the Rwandan government to debut the project in Africa in early August.
RINAUDO: The partnership that we signed with the country of Rwanda is going to use Zipline to deliver all blood transfusions to about half of the
ASHER: Rwanda, often called the land of a thousand hills, has a challenging terrain. And that's where UPS comes in.
LAURA LANE, UPS GLOBAL PUBLIC AFFAIRS PRESIDENT: We put $800,000 in seed money into Zipline and this partnership to be able to develop this service.
And we've invested a lot of our senior staff in terms of their logistics expertise. We've got some of the most sophisticated mapping technologies
and we've been testing these capabilities. And so, from our perspective, it's just about mapping more of the Rwandan territory and making sure that
it gets delivered at that very point that it should be.
ASHER: Here on this cow farm in Northern California, the Zipline team works on everything from the simulation systems to the drones themselves.
RINAUDO: A lot of parts of the plane are 3D printed. So, if you look at this vehicle you can actually see this is 3D printed here and so is this.
ASHER: The company's CEOs says they've raised about $18 million in funding so far. Investors include Yahoo founder Jerry Yang and Microsoft co-
founder Paul Allen.
As drone technology rapidly advances, it's expected that more countries will embrace the high level yet cost-effective solutions it presents.
RINAUDO: It's definitely the case that you're going to see a lot more innovation in regulated markets like drones in places like Africa because
small countries in Africa both often have a higher need for this kind of technology and because they have less regulatory baggage. They're often
able to adopt modern regulatory practices much faster.
LANE: Tomorrow it could be more than just Rwanda. Think about the challenges across sub-Sahara in Africa and the difficulty of delivering in
remote locations. If it works here in Rwanda, we could take it everywhere.
ASHER: Zain Asher, CNN.
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CURNOW: Fantastic idea there. Well, that does it for us here at the "International Desk."
Thanks for watching. I'm Robyn Curnow. World Sport is next.
DAVIES: Hello. Welcome along to World Sport live from Rio on day 12 of the Olympics.
British sailor Charles Scott in here. Earlier, I asked him to describe Rio in one word. It was this, "Busy." And that is how we sum up day 12. More
for Charles Scott later.
But, 16 gold medals, they're up for grabs in nine sports. The athletics is already underway at the Olympic stadium. And also, tripping on the way to
10,000 meters gold on Saturday, reigning champion Mo Farah survived another heart-stopping fall to secure his spot in the men's 5,000 meters final.
Farah has won the last four world titles over the distance. The 33-year- old is seeking to become the first man, since 1976, to retain two Olympic distance titles after completing the double in London four years ago.
Women's 800 meters is also underway with South Africa's Caster Semenya, very much the favorite to go one better than she did in London four years
ago and win gold. Semenya won her hit this morning with a run described as like a walk in the park. She ran the fastest 800 meters time for more than
eight years, of course, just last month in Monaco. She's getting ever, ever closer to the world record for distance which was set in 1983.
But Semenya has lived her athletics career very much in the spotlight for the condition she was born with, hyperandrogenism. It means she has far
greater levels of testosterone that women naturally produce which helps her run faster. She was initially banned from competition and ordered to lower
her levels of the hormone by the world athletics governing body. But, after a ruling by the Court of Arbitration for Sports last year, Semenya
has been free to run naturally and has been difficult to beat.
Now, to one of the biggest stories over the last few days here in Rio. Of course, U.S. swim star Ryan Lochte saying that he and three teammates were
robbed at gunpoint in the earlier hours of Sunday morning. We thought this story was over, but apparently not. Our CNN contributor Christine Brennan
has been following some new developments for us.
Christine, what do you know?
CHRISTINE BRENNAN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, Amanda, this morning, literally, like 72 hours, more than 72 hours after the first news broke that Ryan
Lochte said, did said that he had had a gun to his head and he and three other teammates were robbed. More than three days later, we have the news
this morning that Rio police went to the U.S. village, their dormitories there, and they wanted to ask more questions about this incident. Now,
I've been told that all three of the remaining swimmers in the country were not there.
Ryan Lochte has said he is back in the United States. His lawyer has told us that as well. I do have a statement from Patrick Sandusky, the U.S.
Olympic Committee spokesman, he told met this morning that there was no effort to detain anyone, but police did have further questions this
morning. It is a matter for our consulate and the U.S. citizen services and we will continue to cooperate with all involved. That is from the U.S.
Olympic Committee this morning as this story seems to continue to develop.
DAVIES: So, I'm sorry. The next question is what does it mean? What do we take from this?
BRENNAN: As we know, the issue of security for athletes, for everyone here, has been at the top of everyone's mind even months before Rio. And
this story shook Rio to its core, shook the city, all of us, journalists, writing about it, Ryan Lochte saying what happened to him.
Obviously, what this means is the story is continuing. The police are wanting to speak to the U.S. swimmers, wanting to find out more of what
Obviously, we will stay on the story. But, at a time and a games where there's been a game basically on edge, so many questions about what's going
on in the streets of Rio, this just, I think, adds another question mark and at a very important time. And we will certainly stay on the story.
DAVIES: Absolutely. Investigations are continuing.
Now, Christine, I want to ask you just another question in terms of the sport side of things here. We saw a packed beach volleyball venue last
night as Brazil, the host, were in action, both the men's and women's semifinals. What is your feeling now as the momentum is picking up as
Brazil are actually doing better in the events, as to how ticket sales are going and the impact it's kind of having on the games?
BRENNAN: You know, Amanda, it's really unfortunate that the marquee event, the track and field, that the stadium looks so empty, and I know anyone who
turns on their T.V. and sees that, they kind of ask me what's going on. It's a cavernous stadium, obviously bad weather two nights ago. There are
lots of events there, you've got morning events, evening events, but that is an eyesore, frankly, for Rio, and that's a shame.
So many other venues, from the swimming venue last week, gymnastics starting to fill up, as you mentioned beach volleyball has had a great
electric spirit. I think it's just a mixed bag. And like any Olympics going back to Athens especially in 2004 where tourists and others were
afraid to come because of some of these issues, what we were just talking about, the issue of potentially of crime involving athletes. I think it
did keep some fans away and I think that's what we're seeing here.
DAVIES: And it was always going to be a challenge here for Brazil with the athletics because not traditionally an athletics powerhouse.
DAVIES: Christine, as ever, thanks so much for your time.
We do know that Brazil love their football, though. And in just over an hour from now, the men's team will be looking to put their place in the
Olympic final. They've been under huge pressure to win this football-mad country first Olympic gold in the sport.
(Inaudible) looking to shine a countdown to kickoff against Honduras is very much on at the Maracana. It didn't go to plan though for the women
last night. Coach Vadao admitting his side to owe the home fans after their shock defeat in the semifinal. Having comprehensively beaten Sweden
in the group stage, this time it went down to penalties and it did not end well. The hosts were knocked out 4-3. They do go on to the bronze medal
match, but it is Sweden who will play Germany for the gold.
There was better news for the women's beach volleyball pair of Agatha and Barbara condemning three times defending champion, Kerri Walsh-Jennings to
her first defeat in 27 Olympic matches. She and new partner, April Ross, were beaten in a tight equal straight sets defeat. An incredible
atmosphere. The finals take place this evening.
And boxer Robson Conceicao won Brazil's third gold of the game. He had to wave (ph) to the home support behind him very much. He won Brazil's first-
ever boxing gold to beat France's Sofiane Oumiha with a unanimous point to victory.
Stay with us. Time for break. But when we return, we catch up with the Olympic gold medalists being coined as the newest Hamilton of sailing.
Stay with us.
DAVIES: Welcome back to World Sport. Let's have a look at the medal table heading into day 12 of competition. Look at that symmetry for team USA 28,
28, and 28, that is 84 medals in total. Great Britain holding on to second place with 19 golds, 50 medals overall. China there in third. Russia,
despite their depleted team in four.
It has been a great games for team G.B. so far in having dominated the European and world championships. Here in Rio, British sailor Giles Scott
won his first Olympic gold medal in the Finn class.
He came up to our studio to join us earlier on. I was lucky enough to speak to the man being coined as the Lewis Hamilton of sailing.
GILES SCOTT, OLYMPIC SAILING GOLD MEDALIST: Rio is not the easiest place to run a sailing event. And to be able to put in the series that I did and
to be sitting here and walked away with a gold medal, I couldn't ask for any more.
DAVIES: You say Rio's not the easiest place to put on a sailing event. There's been lots of criticism in the run-up to the sailing events
specifically about the conditions in Guanabara Bay. How did you find them? I know this isn't your first trip here.
SCOTT: No, it's not. I've spent an awful lot of days here. We've done near 150 days here in the past three years and yet the conditions have been
pretty tricky. There was even a bit of a difficulty with water quality and trash. But actually this week it was manageable and it certainly didn't
affect the outcome of the racing, which is all we could ask for.
DAVIES: Would you do anything differently to how you would have done on other events?
SCOTT: Yeah, we looked after ourselves a lot differently. We have to be very careful with just simple things like hand hygiene, where we drink our
bottles, then the bottles in the bottom of the bilges in boats, wash our kits and meals (ph) when we get in. So, yeah, simple things but, yeah, not
anything drastically different.
DAVIES: Now, I've seen you're described as the -- like Lewis Hamilton. Is that a comparison that comes naturally to you?
SCOTT: No, not really, no.
DAVIES: Can you see it? You're fast.
SCOTT: He's a bit faster, I think.
DAVIES: So, no, what is it about team G.B. and, you know, second in the medal table, seemingly winning golds everyday of the games. How much of
that is a legacy from 2012, do you think?
SCOTT: I think, yeah, it's every Olympic cycle is an evolution of the one that's gone before. And obviously, there's such a great campaign put
together in the buildup to the home games in London. And, I think, team G.B. is in such a great place out here in Rio. I think everyone's over the
moon at how we're doing in the overall medal table, and perfectly. You know, I've bumped into guys from different sports around and, I mean,
everyone just seems over the moon.
DAVIES: High hopes that G.B's women's sailing team will bring home some more medals today as well.
But that's it from me and the team here for now. Thanks for watching. See you next time.
"Connect the World" with Jonathan Mann is next. Good bye.