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Trump To Black Voters: What The Hell Do You Have To Lose?; Trump, Pence Tour Flood-Ravaged Louisiana; CDC: Pregnant Women Should Avoid Miami-Dade County; Hillary Clinton Must Answer Questions about Emails; Latest on Ryan Lochte Rio Incident; Olympic Results. Aired 6- 7a ET

Aired August 20, 2016 - 06:00   ET

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CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Well, good morning and welcome to Saturday. I'm Christi Paul.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell. NEW DAY starts right now.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: What do you have to lose?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donald Trump making a passionate pitch to African-American voters.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They can make him read new words from a teleprompter, but he's still the same man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Five individuals have already been confirmed connected to the Miami Beach area.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What if you are a pregnant woman living in that neighborhood? Can you imagine the emotional toll that must take on you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you get this much rain over this area, it's going to be devastating.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on down, glad to have you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I want to thank Mr. Trump for coming to Louisiana. He brought attention to our state.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Obama will travel to the devastation on Tuesday.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The two swimmers place most of the blame on Lochte describing him as drunk and unruly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's done it. History has been made. An unprecedented triple-triple for Usain Bolt.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't think of another athlete since Muhammad Ali that has so captured the public imagination.

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BLACKWELL: And again good morning to you. Also ahead this hour, a travel warning in Miami, Florida, where the Zika virus is spreading and now many families are in really -- a bad place. Worried there. Extremely worried.

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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: What if you are a pregnant woman living in that neighborhood. Can you imagine the emotional toll that must take on you, saying, I worry about the mosquito bite possibly leading to a birth defect in my unborn child.

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PAUL: Again, Usain Bolt with a triple-triple in Rio. We're live for you in Rio this morning as well.

BLACKWELL: Well, in just a few hours, Donald Trump will be at a rally in Virginia. The Trump campaign going through a major overhaul. The campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, is out.

PAUL: And with new leadership, of course, Trump trying to give a new approach to reach out specifically to African-American voters. Here's CNN's Jessica Schneider.

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TRUMP: What do you have to lose by trying something new like Trump?

JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump making a passionate pitch to African-American voters, telling this mostly white audience near East Lansing, Michigan, that Democrats have been the ones keeping minorities down.

TRUMP: America must reject the bigotry of Hillary Clinton who sees communities of color only as (inaudible) not as human beings, worthy of a better future. Hillary Clinton would rather provide a job to a refugee from overseas than to give that job to unemployed African- American youth.

SCHNEIDER: Trump started the day in Baton Rouge criticizing the president for staying on vacation on Martha's Vineyard during the worst natural disaster since Superstorm Sandy. The White House announcing just as Donald Trump's jet took off that President Obama will travel to the devastation on Tuesday. But Donald Trump didn't let up.

TRUMP: Obama ought to get off the golf course and get down there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): In Hillary Clinton's America, the system stays rigged against Americans.

SCHNEIDER: Trump's first TV ad hit the air for campaigns spending $4.5 million over the next 10 days for ads in battleground states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Florida.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Donald Trump's America is secure. Terrorists and dangerous criminals kept out. The borders secure, our families safe.

SCHNEIDER: Clinton's camp already on the attack. Campaign Spokesman Ryan Fallon tweeting, "In case you thought for a split second Trump was genuine about feeling regret he is back to demonizing immigrants again in his new ad today."

Trump's sharpened tune comes as a new team takes over and Paul Manafort resigned as campaign chairman. Sources telling CNN Manafort told Trump he was becoming a distraction and wanted to end it.

(on camera): Donald Trump hasn't spoken about Paul Manafort's departure, only releasing a statement saying that he is appreciative to Manafort especially for his help during the delegate and the convention process.

But the Clinton camp is pouncing on this saying that the departure of Paul Manafort doesn't put an end to what they've called the odd romance between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Jessica Schneider, CNN, Dimondale, Michigan.

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BLACKWELL: All right, let's take a closer look now at Donald Trump's approach to black voters. Let's watch what he said yesterday in Dimondale once again.

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[06:05:08]ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Is that a message actually you think for African-Americans or --

BAKARI SELLERS, CNN COMMENTATOR: I don't think we've seen a candidate that is more uncomfortable around people of color in recent history than Donald Trump. Donald Trump has a lot of work to do showing that he has policy prescriptions for a lot of the ills that he talked about.

He didn't lay those out. But he actually has to learn how to speak to African-Americans with dignity and respect. Donald Trump's language today was an offense and affront to many African-Americans and if he can't own that then what do we talk about --

TARA SETMAYER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: You can't expect to sit there and condescend and preach people in an all-white audience in an all-white town telling black folks what they should and shouldn't do when you haven't had one interaction.

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BLACKWELL: Let's bring in Tharon Johnson, former south regional director for Obama 2012 and a Hillary Clinton supporter, and Jack Kingston, senior adviser for the Trump campaign, former Republican congressman from Georgia. Good to have you both this morning.

So, let's, again, play that bit of what Donald Trump said in Dimondale about African-Americans and his pitch to get their votes. Watch.

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TRUMP: I say it again, what do you have to lose? What do you have to lose, you're living in poverty. Your schools are no good. You have no jobs. Fifty eight percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?

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BLACKWELL: Congressman Kingston, that was not part of the scripted remarks planned for Dimondale, is that what Donald Trump believes about the African-American community in this country?

JACK KINGSTON, SENIOR ADVISER, TRUMP CAMPAIGN: I think what he's saying is that the Democratic Party has had the black votes and traditionally taken that for granted. And what he's saying, look at the results did for you. What did it do for you in Milwaukee? What did it do for you in Baltimore?

What did it do in Ferguson? He's reaching out. He went to Milwaukee. Hillary Clinton hasn't gone there. He is engage and he's set up a diversity committee on his campaign a year ago. We have right now, a more recent poll from the "Los Angeles Times," 14.6 percent of the African-American vote.

So he is going after it, and the Democrats are scared to death because they know that's a vote he's lost and they can't afford to lose but the competition between the candidates would be a positive thing not just for black Americans but for the country.

BLACKWELL: Congressman, let me interject here because that 14.6 percent that you cite comes from the "L.A. Times" poll, which by its own account has a margin of error that's at least double that. I'll tweet that out later so people can see that for themselves.

But when you say that what Donald Trump was trying to say was that Democrats have not, and I'm paraphrasing here, correct me if I'm wrong, serve the African-American community well -- that's not what he said.

What he said is that African-Americans, you are living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs. Again, it seems to be no statistics to support those claims. Is that what he believes?

KINGSTON: I think what he said is that if you look at Milwaukee, you look at Baltimore, and there's a Democrat mayor in Milwaukee. And most of these cities that they have not delivered. What he is saying -- and I can say this politically, it's not good for any one group to just be -- have a monopoly on a constituency. You need to have consistent policy. BLACKWELL: But what the hell do you have to lose the best pitch?

KINGSTON: Well, as we all know, Donald Trump has his own blunt way of talking. He is not a politician. He Is not an inside the beltway person. He's running against a very polished insider, if you will. He said it himself, he doesn't know the language of the beltway. He talks that way to everybody. Whatever your group is

BLACKWELL: Let me get to Tharon. The congressman here says that this is his outside the beltway talk. Tharon, Donald Trump said he's going to get 95 percent of the African-American vote in the next election.

THARON JOHNSON, FORMER SOUTH REGIONAL DIRECTOR, OBAMA 2012: Let me tell you this, I know Congressman Kingston personally, and I think that the congressman is in a very tough position. Congressman Kingston represented a part of Southeast Georgia that had a very systemic and very large African-American community.

Congressman, the problem is, he went into a community that is 93 percent white and literally didn't have any African-Americans in the audience. I totally agree with Bakari Sellers earlier, the tune in which he talked to the African-American community was so disrespectful and so condescending.

The trouble with this is this, now that Donald Trump is losing in the polls, he is basically going against the Republican base with some of these recent hires. He is now begging African-American voters to vote for him. It's not going to work.

And then also, Congressman, would you say that Milwaukee and Ferguson and Baltimore were because of Democrats.

[06:10:02]No, it was because we don't have the proper training for white police officers who are killing armed and unarmed African- American men and women to properly deal with sometimes hostile African-Americans when they are arresting them.

So, listen, Congressman, the problem is that you would have never in Chatham County, a district where you represented, went to talk to the African-American community in a 93 percent white area and all-white crowd.

The first thing that Donald Trump needs to do is that if he wants to appeal to us, he needs to embrace us and sit down and understand our issues. I think the Democratic Party has an outstanding party for us.

And I think more importantly, what did we get out of it? We got President Obama who has done a wonderful job as president, who has a 54 percent approval rating right now.

BLACKWELL: Let's give the congressman an opportunity to respond to those questions. Donald Trump has more than a few black pastors who support him. Why not go to one of their churches? Why not instead of Dimondale, go to Lansing, go to a community in Detroit and deliver the message? KINGSTON: Let me say this, you're going to say that and that has been going on, but remember --

BLACKWELL: When has that happened? Never.

KINGSTON: Let me make this point. Wherever presidential candidates face the microphone of the nation, it's not the crowd that's there. When he has his rally 15,000 people show. When he spoke in North Carolina the other night, it was an integrated crowd. He is out there reaching out -- remember Hillary Clinton --

BLACKWELL: But Congressman, hold on before you get to Hillary Clinton -- we'll talk to her right after the break -- when Donald Trump wanted to court law enforcement vote, he went to the Paternal Order of Police. When he wanted to court the Christian conservative vote, he went to the faith conferences. If you want the African-American vote, don't you have to go to actual African-Americans and ask them for their votes?

KINGSTON: Let me say this, what you saw this week is an invitation to start that engagement. I think you're going to see it and I think you're going to be pleased. I think when you see it, the Democrats are going to be scared to death because they've always taken the black vote for granted and they have not delivered.

BLACKWELL: OK, we're going to take a quick break. We are going to come back and talk about Hillary Clinton. Tharon Johnson, Jack Kingston, stick around. Of course, we've got a lot more to talk about.

PAUL: A new turn in Hillary Clinton e-mail controversy, a federal judge gives her one month to answer questions about the scandal. Her team says this is a win for her.

Also, the swimmer scandal, the International Olympic Committee reportedly diving into that now. What it could mean for Ryan Lochte and his three teammates.

And a travel warning in Miami, Florida, where the Zika virus is spreading.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Department of Health has learned to one of their investigations that five individuals have already been confirmed as cases of local transmissions of Zika are connected to the Miami Beach area.

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BLACKWELL: All right, back now with our panel, Tharon Johnson, former south regional director of Obama 2012 and a Hillary Clinton supporter. Jack Kingston, senior adviser to the Trump campaign, former Republican congressman from Georgia.

Tharon, I want to start with you. A federal judge has ordered Secretary Clinton to respond under oath to questions from Judicial Watch, this conservative watchdog group, about why she initially decided to use a private server for business-related e-mails while at the State Department.

She'll have until a week after the election to respond to those questions. But this guarantees that there will be an active story line here through the election on these e-mail, something that the campaign has continually had a difficult time responding to.

JOHNSON: Yes, listen, it's something that she has got basically continue to be very honest and transparent about. I mean, listen, she's admitted that it was a mistake. But at the time that Colin Powell came out and basically said that he had a private e-mail server and he also encouraged her to have one.

BLACKWELL: Colin Powell never said he had a private e-mail server. He had an e-mail account and he also said that he doesn't recall the conversation over dinner with other former secretaries of state in which a Clinton biographer said that he suggested that she use a private e-mail. But go ahead.

JOHNSON: Yes, but Victor, as I said on the show last week, we're really talking about when the investigation was going on with 30-plus thousand e-mails. There was really only three e-mails that were sort marked as classified.

But is it a distraction on the campaign, absolutely, but listen, she's got to answer those tough questions. She's got to continue to be as honest as she possibly can about it. I think the campaign will continue to stay on message in going into November.

BLACKWELL: Congressman Kingston, what do you say to people who say that there have been investigations by the FBI, and these questions have been asked and answered?

KINGSTON: Well, they absolutely have not been answered. I mean, right now, there's a discussion about perjury, the FBI director who called Hillary Clinton reckless with the way she conducted the e-mails said that, number one, there was not one server.

Hillary Clinton said to Congress there was one. The FBI director said there was four. She said she reviewed every single e- mail. The FBI director said that she did not. He said that there were none classified. I believe the count was 133.

So, you know, the idea that we have somebody who is a nominee of a major political party who apparently very recently committed perjury is a scary thing.

I think this is what you have with the Clintons, there's always one step away from a scandal or one scandal that's lurking in the background.

You have the Clinton Foundation now, the revelation, oh, we're going to close it down if you're becoming president. Either you're doing something wrong or you're not. Why would you close it down if you're following all the rules to begin with?

BLACKWELL: We'll have that conversation, but we have just a minute left. Tharon, I want to come to you with Donald Trump visiting Louisiana, meeting with the people there who are struggling with the flooding that's been going on there.

And the president, not until after Donald Trump was on the ground and out, the White House announced that he will be there on Tuesday. Why has President Obama -- I understand not gone because of logistics and all that is involved with Secret Service.

But why not step in front of the camera in Martha's Vineyard, if he does it, I promise we'll air it. There's not even a statement of sympathy or empathy. The White House has released statements after the deaths of pop stars and comedian, and tens of thousands of people are struggling in Louisiana and nothing from President Obama, why?

[06:20:05]JOHNSON: Well, there's process, Victor, and you know this. Listen, the president is going to go down there.

BLACKWELL: It's been more than a week. More than a dozen people are dead and he said nothing.

JOHNSON: What's happening in Louisiana is very tragic and I think that you know that this president has no problem going into states whether they are red states or blue states and basically consoling the American people and helping them to get back on their feet.

Listen, there is a process within the White House. The president is on it. He is going to go down there. I know the White House staff has been in communications with the governor and others there in Louisiana. I think he'll come and offer as much assistance as he possibly can.

BLACKWELL: Yes, it's a process to get the president there, but after Robin Williams died and Whitney Houston died, it took just a few hours for the president to release a statement.

JOHNSON: He's trying to bait the president and basically he's trying to say that these people, majority of African-Americans or minorities will be unaffected by this tragic --

BLACKWELL: If you remove Donald Trump from the equation, if Donald Trump didn't announce until midweek that he was going. We were covering the deaths and the flooding here last weekend and still no statement from the president expressing some sympathy, empathy, even a written statement.

JOHNSON: I think there was a statement, Victor, that was released before Donald Trump made his comments. But listen, this is a president --

BLACKWELL: Not at whitehouse.gov.

JOHNSON: Well, my point is this is a president that goes to all communities. We have gun victims who have been shot and flooding victims. He goes there and consoles the community. I think he's done that as far responding to these tragedies.

BLACKWELL: All right, Tharon Johnson, Jack Kingston, thank you so much for the conversation. We'll continue throughout the morning. All right, Christi.

PAUL: There is a warning to any of you who may be pregnant right now. Federal health officials telling you to avoid two particular parts of Florida right now as the Zika virus could be spreading. Stay close.

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PAUL: We want to talk to you this morning about this warning for pregnant women and their partners. They say stay away from certain areas of Florida's Miami-Dade County. This is according to the director of the CDC.

BLACKWELL: This advisory comes after five new cases of the Zika virus were traced to a 1.5-square mile stretch of Miami Beach. Here's Florida Governor Rick Scott.

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GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT (R), FLORIDA: Five individuals have already been confirmed as cases of local transmissions of Zika are connected to the Miami Beach area. This brings the total number of local transmissions to 36.

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PAUL: CNN senior medical correspondent, Elizabeth Cohen, is in Miami right now and has details on as you can imagine how the residents are taking this.

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Victor, Christi, this is as unprecedented travel warning and that is because this is an unprecedented situation. Here in South Florida, they thought what's called local transmission of Zika that means people are getting bitten by mosquitos in Florida and getting Zika.

These people who are getting Zika they didn't travel to Latin America or the Caribbean, they contracted the disease here. So that's why the CDC is saying don't go to these two specific neighborhoods in the Miami area and consider postponing travel to the entire county.

Now what does that mean for people who are living here? I've been talking to obstetricians who treat patients locally and they say, look, people are nervous. They are not freaked out but they are nervous.

Some people who are really nervous have actually left the area, but that's pretty unusual. But they say that a lot of pregnant ladies have decided that they're going to stay indoors as much as possible -- Victor, Christi.

PAUL: Elizabeth, thank you. And our chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, talked to CDC Director Tom Frieden discussing the thinking behind this latest travel advisory.

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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: These are unprecedented travel advisories recommending people not travel in this case pregnant women not travel to particular American cities. Is the CDC saying that pregnant women should not travel to all of Miami-Dade County now?

DR. TOM FRIEDEN, DIRECTOR, CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION: We're saying very specifically, there are two one-mile areas in Miami- Dade County where there is confirmed spread of Zika. Pregnant women should not travel to those two areas.

We're also providing additional information about what has happened in the rest of Miami-Dade, so people can make informed decisions. Pregnant women and sexual partners of pregnant women may want to postpone or delay travel to other parts of Miami-Dade.

The issue there is that it's an area where they're looking hard for the Zika virus and they're finding some of it. There have been other isolated instances of local spread of Zika.

And when Zika starts to spread, it may be two or three weeks before there's any way to be sure it's spreading. We're just providing that information openly and transparently so people can make an informed decision.

GUPTA: A lot of the informed decision comes about I think as a result of conversations they are having if a patient came to you or a family member came to you, Dr. Frieden, and was pregnant and said, thinking about going to Miami-Dade County, should I go? What do you tell them?

FRIEDEN: It really depends on why you're going. Anytime we travel anywhere, we look at the risk. We look at the benefits and we make a decision that's right for us. We're saying that certainly for these two one-mile areas, we really urge you not to go and for women living in those one-mile areas to do everything possible to avoid mosquito bites.

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PAUL: Now the CDC said if you have already travelled to that area and are planning to get pregnant, basically wait for at least another eight weeks.

BLACKWELL: All right, still ahead, the saga, some would call it scandal that continues to dog Hillary Clinton. A judge is now ordering her to answer questions under oath about her private e-mail server.

PAUL: Also, could Ryan Lochte and three other swimmers be in deeper trouble? The latest on that scandal and one of his teammates this morning talking about what happened early that morning in Rio.

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CHRISTI PAUL, HOST: Welcome back, I'm so grateful to have your company on this Saturday. I'm Christi Paul.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, HOST: I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to be with you. Donald trump has a message for African-American voters, what the hell do you have to lose?

PAUL: And that's a quote, by the way. The GOP candidate spent a second straight night now appealing to African-American voters while in front of a predominately white audience.

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DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I say it again, what do you have to lose? Look what do you have to lose? You're living in poverty. Your schools are no good. You have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?

PAUL: He went on to say that in his second term he would win 95% of the African-American votes which at this point in time it may be a tall order.

BLACKWELL: Yes, a new NBC news poll has Trump with just 1% support among black voters. Now in a tweet Clinton called Trump's speech, "so ignorant, it's staggering."

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PAUL: All right, Hillary Clinton has 30 days to provide written answers to questions submitted by Judicial Watch. After the group asked to interview her under oath as part of a freedom of information act lawsuit.

Let's bring in CNN political commentator and political anchor for New York One News, Errol Louis. So Errol, as we - as we hear about this, a lot of people are saying, wait a minute, what about Judicial Watch. Because this is a conservative organization but they aren't necessarily related or connected to the government by any means, why would they be able -- or this judge, why would the judge mandate she makes these answers available to them specifically?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes, it's a very interesting question, Christi. The reality is anybody can file a Freedom of Information Act request. They happen to be a politically oriented non- profit organization but anybody watching this broadcast could send in a request to get the kind of documents that this group was seeking.

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LOUIS: No they, of course, have an agenda. And what they were asking for just in case anybody's forgotten is information about Huma Abedin, one of top aides to Hillary Clinton. And her specific status, she had an unusual status where she was given a waiver to be able to do some outside work at the same time she was a full-time employee of the U.S. State Department and so they were asking for information about it. The State Department replied that they had some information and there were other emails that they couldn't come up with. And then it came to light that a lot of this information was actually on the private e- mail server and then that triggered sort of the reopening of the lawsuit and a request to get as much information as possible and to turn over that stuff.

But this is really in some ways a routine pretrial situation in which both sides are supposed to exchange information and that's what the judge has ordered Hillary Clinton now to do.

PAUL: When you -- when you look at the time line, they have to submit the questions by October 14th she then has 30 days to respond which puts her beyond the election. Do you think she will answer those questions prior?

LOUIS: I have a hard time believing that she would answer any of this before November 9th. I think she's got - she's got plenty of time after the outcome of the election, and much bigger fish to fry, frankly, than to take yet another pass through all of the e-mails to respond to a group that is clearly going to use any information given that is given to her to leak it to the press, use it try and embarrass her politically. I think she wants to keep this in the courtroom and not in the media, frankly.

PAUL: One of the things that has come this week that a lot of people are talking about as well is the Clinton Foundation and the fact that they have announced they had will stop taking foreign money if she becomes President. Which has left a lot of people saying if you weren't doing anything wrong, if there was no conflict of interest when you were Secretary of State, why would you have to make that provision?

LOUIS: Yes, it's a great question. It raises issues that were in fact put in front of the Clinton family long ago. Why are you taking money from foreign business interests, foreign government even, when you clearly have to sort of, imagine that these groups are trying to curry favor with the Clinton -- with the Obama administration and with the potential Clinton administration.

Now the answer was always given, Christi, that we're taking this money and we're using it for good work. We're helping women and girls in different poverty situations around the world. We're helping worthy projects to help clean water and do other kinds of innovative stuff. And Bill Clinton used to say, look, we can leave the money alone in which case we won't be able to do all of this good, but between the Clinton Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation there's a lot of good we can do and we've chosen to do it. That was the answer then and of course now they're trying a different approach. PAUL: So you take these two issues that we just talked about and then

of all of the things that Donald Trump said last night that have a lot of people talking today, this is one that stood out as well. Take a listen.

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TRUMP: There's one thing we know for sure, is that if you keep voting with the same people, you will keep getting the same exactly the same results.

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PAUL: So he's not just speaking to African-Americans there. He's speaking to a wide array of the electorate who may not be happy, who may be struggling. Is that a strong enough statement to override some of the other things he's said with people?

LOUIS: Well, that's a good question. And look it's the issue - and this is what Bill Clinton ran on by the way in 1992 change versus no change. And if this is what the political strategists would call a changed election. Meaning the populist the voting public is overwhelmingly ready for a change. Then that is exactly the argument that Donald Trump should have been making all along.

The problem is, at this point now we've had 15 months of controversial statements from him. And a pretty significant body of evidence that he may not be the change that people are looking for. That he may not possess the right temperament, the right experience. Basically, the right character to be that change. And if that's what the election is about, then that's actually a pretty good place for things to be. You know do we need change? Yes, is this the right change? Well we'll see that's the best case that Trump can make at this point.

PAUL: Yes. The Washington Post is reporting this morning that Bernie Sanders will campaign for Hillary Clinton after Labor Day. Do you believe he still has the influence of the people who were behind him to get them to change their vote to her?

LOUIS: You know what I see happening here, Christi, is that Hillary Clinton is trying to create almost a European parliamentary kind of election strategy. Where she's got all of these player, Michelle Obama, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, now, out there campaigning for her. Allowing people to sort of pick whichever flavor of democrat they want, and say this is what you get when you vote for Hillary Clinton.

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LOUIS: So yes, I think Bernie Sanders is tremendously popular. He'll bring out a segment of the vote that Hillary Clinton by extension is going to try and tap into in November.

Again, it's not clear whether the strategy will work. But I see her doing this again and again with moderate democrats, conservative democrats as well as liberal democrats like Bernie Sanders. PAUL: All right, Errol Louis, always good to see you sir, thank you.

LOUIS: You too, thanks.

BLACKWELL: And this morning, there's new information in the Ryan Lochte mess.

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BLACKWELL: Olympic officials are now reportedly getting involved. What that could mean for one of America's most decorated swimmers and his teammates.

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BLACKWELL: The Olympics are almost over, but the controversies, they are not. According to Reuters, the International Olympic Committee has now set up a disciplinary commission to investigate those four U.S. swimmers.

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PAUL: Yes, commissioners would decide if Ryan Lochte and his three teammates should be disciplined for their behavior in Rio. Now this comes as one of Lochte's teammates, Gunner Bentz says Lochte was the one who torn down a sign at a gas station, who yelled at security guards.

CNN's Brynn Gingras has more from Lochte's neighborhood in Charlotte, North Carolina.

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BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Christi and Victor, it's not the way the officials wanted the Olympics to end with a scandal around the U.S. swimming team. And it's possible all four men involved could face disciplinary action.

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GINGRAS: 12-time Olympic medalist Ryan Lochte apologizing for his behavior in a bizarre incident that has cast a shadow over Rio's Olympic Games.

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GINGRAS: "I want to apologize for my behavior last weekend for not being more careful and candid in how I described the events." But in his statement posted to Instagram, Lochte did not back down from the most dramatic part of his initial story.

RYAN LOCTHE, U.S. OLYMPIC SWIMMER: They pulled out their guns, they told the other swims to get down on the ground. They got down on the ground, I refused, I was like we didn't do anything wrong. You took our money, you took my wallet.

GINGRAS: The 32-year-old sticking to his story that he and his teammates were robbed at gunpoint. Writing "it's traumatic to be out late with your friends in a foreign country with a language barrier and have a stranger point a gun at you and demand money to let you leave."

Lochte's teammates, Jack Conger and Gunner Bentz leaving Rio. Brazilian police say that the two swimmers placed most of the blame on Lochte, describing him as drunk and unruly and that it was Lochte who vandalized the gas station including damaging a sign and the bathroom door. And that Lochte later fabricated the robbery story.

Surveillance video shows the swimmers first trying to get into one taxi and then finding their cab. A witness told Brazilian media that the swimmers tried to escape then security guards who pointed a gun at them ordered them out of the cab. The witness telling the newspaper that the swimmers pleaded with the gas station employees not to call police.

Jimmy Fagan is the last of the four to return home. At a court appearance Fagan agreed to pay nearly $11,000 to a local charity for falsely reporting a crime.

Michael Phelps, the most decorated Olympian of all time, breaking his silence on the incident.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you have spoken to Ryan Lochte at all about what happened in Brazil?

MICHAEL PHELPS, OLYMPIAN: No I haven't spoken to him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. Do you think it's all going to work itself out?

PHELPS: We have good people taking care of it.

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GINGRAS: And we know the U.S. Olympic Committee and USA Swimming are each independently conducting their own investigations. Each saying that they don't condone this behavior, and it's possible that disciplinary action will follow not just for Lochte, but possibly all four men involved.

Christi and Victor.

PAUL: All right, thank you so much and we'll obviously continue to keep you posted on what's happening in that regard.

Meanwhile, complete domination in track in field. Usain Bolt, Allyson Felix making history in Rio. Coy Wire is still there. Good morning Coy.

COY WIRE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, man, good morning, Victor and Christi. Usain Bolt making history again but American Allyson Felix did something just as incredible and she's not done. We're going to talk about those and more coming up after the break.

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BLACKWELL: Usain Bolt sprints into his history, winning the triple- triple. I've never even heard of that.

PAUL: I know I hadn't either.

BLACKWELL: So gold medals in all three sprint events in three consecutive Olympics.

PAUL: And we hadn't heard about it because it's never happened before.

BLACKWELL: True.

PAUL: Coy Wire is live in Rio with all the highlights. And Coy, I have to wonder what it must have been like to be there. It had to have been thunderous applause?

WIRE: Yes, the race that I saw with Usain Bolt, I mean the way he commanded that stadium Christi, every portion of the crowd he looked to they would erupt. If he told the crowd to shush, the whole stadium, shushed before his race. So seeing that command and that presence, outstanding.

But Victor if you didn't know now you know; the triple-triple, a third consecutive clean sweep of the 100, 200 and 4 x 100m relay titles.

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WIRE: The best known in Jamaica since Bob Marley, taking gold in last night's 4x100m relay running the anchor leg and bursting into history. He turns 30 tomorrow but the party got started as soon as he crossed that finished line. Usain Bolt going out on top. Finishes his Olympic career with a record tying nine gold medals And after the race Bolt told reporters, "There you go, I'm the greatest."

Now Team USA finished third but ended up getting disqualified because officials said the baton was passed outside of the handoff zone. So USA Track & Field is appealing this ruling and they are expecting a decision later today so we'll see what happens there.

The American women they didn't have any problems in their 4x100 meter relay. They defend their gold medal from the London games with the second fastest time ever. And this was extra special for Allyson Felix, now the first woman in history to collect five gold medals in track and field. And she'll be back on the track in the 4x400-meter final tonight. So she's not done. She could grab a ninth career Olympic medal.

Now U.S. men's basketball team is one win away from capturing a 15th gold medal. Haven't lost since 2004. NBA All-Stars beating Spain in the semi-final yesterday. But another ugly win, there were five technical fouls between both teams in the first half. Four against Spain, the U.S. came out on top 82-76 and next up will be Serbia for all the marbles tomorrow at 2:45 eastern.

30 gold medals up for grabs today guys. 17 of them -- the U.S. is all alone at the top 105 medals. China, Great Britain, a tight race for second place with just five medals separating the two. It will be another great day of games, it looks like it's going to be a beautiful day. It's a little cloudy now but it usually burns off. Women's hoops going for yet another gold. That's one to watch today as well guys.

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BLACKWELL: Even in the rain, Copacabana is a beautiful city. Every day there is beautiful. Coy, thanks so much.

WIRE: You're welcome guys.

PAUL: All right, we'll see you in just a bit.

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PAUL: Up next, meet the South Korean rhythmic gymnast who's just become the first competitor from South Korea to qualify for the all- round finals.

BLACKWELL: And at the top of the hour, Donald Trump has retooled his campaign. And for the second consecutive speech, talking about getting black voters to support him. But polls show he has a lot of work to do.

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BLACKWELL: Later today, rhythmic gymnasts will take the stage for the individual all-around finals.

PAUL: There's one athlete that we need to keep our eye on here, she's known as South Korea's very rhythmic gymnast. Here she is.

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SON YEON-JAE, SOUTH KOREA RHYTHMIC GYMNAST: My name is Son Yeon-Jae. I'm 21 years old. I am South Korea's rhythmic gymnast. I first started rhythmic gymnastics when I was 5. I can't even remember myself before I started this sport.

I perform with hoops and balls and cups and rhythm. I think it's really difficult and we're training a lot because we have to perform without any mistake. We have to show our like emotion and everything.

I was fifth place in London Olympic Games. And I got the gold medal in 2014 in (inaudible). And I got the medal in hoop. I'm so proud of myself because I'm doing and people call it's first time Korean gymnast. Everything is first. So I am so happy. I think rhythmic gymnastic is like fighting with myself. Because it's competition, I go to the floor alone. And I go there and I do my performance. I feel so free and I feel so happy.

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PAUL: Well, good morning, and welcome to Saturday. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell "New Day" starts right now.