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G20 Summit Wraps Up; No Deal On Syria After Obama-Putin Meeting At G20; Philippines' Duterte Vows To Stand Up To Obama; North Korea Fires 3 Missiles Into Sea Of Japan; Stunning New Details Into Paris Terror Attacks; Syrian Army Recaptures Areas In Aleppo; Workers Trapped In Tel Aviv Garage Collapse; Singapore Confirms 16 New Cases Of Zika; Supporters Interpret Trump's Immigration Message; E-mail Scandal Shadows Clinton Campaign; Democracy Activists Score Wins In H.K. Elections; Eastern Gorilla Now "Critically Endangered". Aired 10-11a ET
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[10:00:11] ROBYN CURNOW, CNN ANCHOR: Ahead at the "International Desk," President Obama talks about the gaps in trust with Russia. How did ISIS
plan the Paris attacks? We have an exclusive report. And Zika Virus spreads quickly in Singapore.
Hi there, everyone, welcome. I'm Robyn Curnow at the CNN Center. And the leaders of 20 economic powerhouses are now getting all set, the G20 Summit
wraps up in China.
The meeting saw the U.S. and China sign off on the Paris climate deal along with new efforts to clamp down on tax evaders and past trade deals, but
there was also a lot of diplomatic wrangling on the sidelines. The U.S. President met with Russia's Vladimir Putin to discuss a wide range of
issues on Syria. Mr. Obama said they failed to push past what he called gaps in trust. He compared Mr. Putin to other world leaders and described
their talk in response to a question from CNN's Michelle Kosinski. Take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PRESIDENT: President Putin's less colorful, but, you know, typically, the tone of our meetings are candid,
blunt, businesslike. And this one was no different.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CURNOW: There you have it, Barack Obama describing his meeting with Russia's President earlier on. For more on the summit, we've got our
International Diplomatic Editor Nic Robertson in London, and our Senior International Correspondent Fred Pleitgen standing by in London.
And Nic, to you first, we just heard there President Obama talking about this meeting with Putin being blunt and diplomatic, you know, and
businesslike, but really not much came out of it, particularly on the issue of Syria.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yeah, perhaps the biggest part of what President Obama said there was the pause as he sort of
chose his words to say precisely, I mean in diplomatic terms. I mean, that's very -- that's pretty blunt language. These are blunt meetings.
They clearly don't see eye to eye. You know, President Obama's had his Secretary of State John Kerry meeting yesterday for two hours with Sergey
Lavrov, President Putin's foreign minister, to try to hammer out and close those gaps.
The reality on the ground is that Russia and Syrian Army Recaptures Areas in Aleppo;
Certainly, the Russian side here that has really talked up the narrative that there was a possibility of a deal, the U.S. side Kerry and Obama from
the outset of seeing more skeptical. And what you -- what the narrative that seems to emerge here is President Putin really wants to be seen as the
guy in charge who can make or break the deal. He is in the most powerful position in Syria right now, and that's been reaffirmed, and that's exactly
how the optics here that the G20 look.
Maybe they'll take another stab at it when the U.N. Security Council meets later in the month. But what it does is it does put Putin in that position
of being the power broker there in Syria and potentially wanting to gain other things, like a better deal, lifting of economic sanctions over his
actions in Ukraine. Of course, Obama says that's not on.
CURNOW: So, but, we'll talk more about this in just a moment, but Fred, also to you. One of the first questions from the traveling press call
there in China was a question to President Obama on whether Russia was trying to hack or to influence the U.S. election. Mr. Obama spoke about
trying to, though, avoid a cyber arms race. He kind of avoided that question directly.
FRED PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, yeah, exactly. He said that, and he also didn't say whether or not the two
leaders had actually spoken about the DNC case specifically. Or, it certainly sounds like they might not have spoken about that case
specifically, and that Mr. Obama more to the point was saying that, in general, he fears that there could be that cyber arms race with countries
that have these major resources, like, for instance, the U.S. and Russia do, to get into such an arms race, if in fact there wasn't more trust, and
if, in fact, cyber hacking attacks don't stop, probably from all sides involved.
So, certainly, it was a big issue on the mind of the President. It seemed to be something that both of these leaders were trying to turn down during
their press statements. Interesting, because Vladimir Putin who was just talking to the press, I believe, is actually still talking to the press,
made no mention whatsoever of the DNC hacking scandal or of the fact that the two leaders had, in fact, spoken about cybersecurity. Vladimir Putin
talking more about the policies on Syria, saying that there was some common ground between himself and Barack Obama on that issue, saying very little
about cyber hacking in particular.
[10:05:07] And if you look at the Russian press, you look at Russian news agencies they're also not talking very much about it. They are also
pushing to the forefront more of the crisis in Ukraine, the crisis in Syria, talking very little bit -- very little about these hacking attacks
that, of course, many in the U.S. blame they're on Russian sources. So, it certainly is something where it seems as though they're trying to downplay
what was going on there, or at least trying to keep it out of that broader G20 Summit, Robyn.
CURNOW: And certainly and this hacking conversation really playing into the U.S. presidential race. And we also know President Putin's making some
comments now. We're getting the translation via Reuters and we understand one line that's coming out of that is that Vladimir Putin saying that
current Russia and U.S. relations are abnormal and should be improved.
So, certainly blunt talk coming out of this conversation at the G20. Also some blunt talk coming from another part of this conversation.
Nic Robertson, to you, you're an international diplomatic editor, and there's a rather colorful incident playing out over the Philippines and the
new president and what he had to say about President Obama potentially calling him up on the drug war. I think we have sound of it. I don't know
if we can play it, but it certainly is quite enlightening. Let's listen.
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RODRIGO DUTERTE, PHILIPPINE PRESIDENT: Who is he? I am a president of a sovereign state, and we have long ceased to be a colony. I do not have any
master except the Filipino people, nobody but nobody. You must be respectful. Do not let's just throw away questions and statements.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CURNOW: Well, there you have it. I mean, President Obama being quite diplomatic in what might or might not be a meeting. But still, Nic
Robertson, Mr. Duterte not mincing his words there.
ROBERTSON: And in his own dialect actually sort of ramping up the rhetoric a little but if you will. SOB, I will not let him do that, in that forum,
was the language that he used in his own dialect.
Yes, so, what President Obama has said about this is, look, you know, I like to try and have productive meetings, meetings that have an outcome.
Because President Obama was asked the question, are you going to speak to the Philippine president about this high number, thousands of alleged drug
dealers being apparently killed since the president of the Philippines came to power earlier this year. And the expectation was, and President Obama
said that if he was to have the meeting, then that would be on the agenda.
So, what is the sort of reading between the lines of the language that President Obama used when he was asked a question is it looks like that
meeting may not have happen at the ASEAN Summit. Maybe that's something we'll have to get pushed off further down the line, certainly and
intensely, as you say, colorful happening.
CURNOW: Nic and Fred, appreciate you both coming on the show. Appreciate it.
Well, the G20 Summit wrapped up with a rather ominous and hostile message from North Korea. The South Korean military says North Korea launched
three ballistic missiles into the Sea of Japan. They fell within Japan's air defense identification zone. Japan's Defense Minister says all three
missiles landed in the same spot in the ocean nearly simultaneously, indicating North Korea's guidance systems are becoming more sophisticated.
And CNN has obtained tens of thousands of documents into last winter's terror attacks in Paris. They reveal in stunning detail just how elaborate
and ambitious that plot was. Well, behind it all, a shadowy puppet master in Syria. Our Clarissa Ward joins us from London with her exclusive
What did you uncover? Hi there, Clarissa.
CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Robyn. Well, we spent months poring over tens of thousands of pages of documents, the
internal investigation into the Paris attacks. And what we saw was really an unprecedented window into the inner machinations of ISIS and how it
orchestrates these attacks in Europe. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: November 13th, 10 ISIS operatives attacked Paris, targeting bars, restaurants, a concert hall and a stadium, shooting as many people as they
could before blowing themselves up. By the end of the massacre, the worst terrorist attack in Europe in a decade, 130 people were dead.
Now for the first time, CNN has gained access to thousands of pages of documents and photos from the internal European investigation, which shed
new light on the sophisticated network ISIS uses to coordinate terror attacks across Europe.
The documents reveal another suspected terrorist, never before made public, who investigators linked to the cell that carried out the Paris attacks.
He was on the loose in Europe for more than six months.
[10:10:08] Other ISIS operatives are right now believed to be living among ordinary citizens in Europe, plotting other strikes directed by senior ISIS
handlers in Syria, according to multiple sources.
Within days of the shocking rampage in Paris, police learned that two of the three suicide bombers at the Stade de France Stadium entered Europe by
posing as Syrian refugees. These surveillance photos never seen before publicly show the bombers as they approach their target. This is the
moment they detonate their devices.
But according to the documents, two more men were part of the ISIS cell. They traveled the same refugee route as the suicide bombers, blending in
with thousands of people from war-torn countries. Their names are Adel Haddadi and Mohammad Usman. They were eventually arrested and records of
their capture and interrogation obtained by CNN show how ISIS supported the attackers throughout their mission.
This is their story, based mainly on multiple interrogations of Haddadi. Early October, six weeks before the Paris attacks, the documents show their
journey began in Raqqa, Syria, the capital of the self-declared ISIS caliphate. The men didn't know each other's real names or what their
mission would be. According to the documents, Haddadi later tells investigators he only knew they were being sent to France to do something
for the good of God. Much of their journey was directed by a shadowy ISIS leader in Syria known only as Abu Ahmad, who arranged meetings, cell
phones, money and transportation for them.
Jean-Charles Brisard is French expert on terrorism. We asked him to analyze the documents obtained by CNN.
JEAN CHARLES BRISARD, FRENCH CENTER FOR ANALYSIS OF TERRORISM CONSULTANT: Abu Ahmed is clearly an ISIS operative. He is key in sending those
individuals, at least the foreigners into the Paris attacks, because he's the one who recruited them, who funds them, who trained them, who provided
electronic devices to them, telephones. He was always in contact with them.
WARD: According to the transcripts of interrogations, Haddadi and Usman, along with the two Paris attackers, traveled from Raqqa across the Turkish
border on to the coastal city of Izmir, switching vehicles, picking up cash passed from one smuggler to the next along the way. They received
instructions from their ISIS handler in Syria through encrypted apps such as telegram and WhatsApp. Throughout their journey, they're only given
enough money and information to get to the next stop.
PAUL CRUICKSHANK, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: ISIS is accelerating its international attack planning. It's increasingly sophisticated in the way
it does this. It set up an intricate, logistical support system for these terrorist cells throughout Europe.
WARD: In the middle of the night, the team makes the treacherous crossing to Greece in a boat filled with dozens of refugees. They're picked up by
the Greek Navy along the way. The two bombers, who would eventually attack the Paris stadium, make it through and start moving steadily north toward
their target. But Haddadi and Usman's fake Syrian passports are discovered, they're arrested, and their money is taken. They're held in
Greece for about a month.
Greek officials would not say why they were released, but authorities believe that delay was significant. They would not have a chance to become
part of the Paris attacks.
Haddadi tells investigators they contact their ISIS handler, Abu Ahmad, who arranges another 2,000 Euros for them. Flush with cash, the pair continue
along the refugee route. As they worked their way across Europe, Usman, identified by investigators as a bomb maker from a Pakistani terror group,
passes the hours doing something strikingly un-Islamic, looking at porn. Documents show he visited almost two dozen porn sites on his phone.
November 14th, the day after the Paris attacks, Haddadi and Usman arrived in Salzburg, Austria. They apply for asylum and end up in this refugee
center where they stayed for weeks.
According to CNN's sources, authorities now believe that Haddadi and Usman were not only part of the same terror cell as the Paris bombers, but also
that they were planning in another attack. The documents show that they were in contact with people in several European countries and were
researching travel to France.
Investigators believe they were waiting for a third man to join them, a mysterious ISIS operative called Abid Tabaouni. Tabaouni has never been
publicly named until now. Like Usman and Haddadi, he traveled from Syria along the refugee route, carrying a phone number linked to the terrorist
cell of the ringleader of the Paris attacks, according to the documents, as well as the photo of Islamic state fighters standing before their flag.
[10:15:04] December 10th, nearly a month after the Paris attacks, Tabaouni finally arrives at the refugee center where Usman and Haddadi are. Later,
the very same day, police raid the center. Usman and Haddadi are arrested. Here's what happened next, according to the documents. In the scramble,
Haddadi tries unsuccessfully to get rid of his sim card.
Tabaouni is nowhere to be seen. Haddadi denies knowing him, but investigators find this, Tabaouni's cell phone charging right beside
Haddadi's bed. It has Haddadi's phone number saved in it. Also in that phone, a photo taken just 30 minutes before the raid that shows Tabaouni
sitting on a bed in the refugee center right next to where Haddadi and Usman slept.
BRISARD: We can assume that Tabaouni was also part of the same plot and was instructed to carry out an attack
WARD: From the time he slipped away last December, Tabaouni has been a wanted man, according to CNN sources who also confirm he was finally
arrested in July. The documents show this is the Facebook page Tabaouni had on his phone. And in recent months, it appears he was publicly posting
updates from Belgium.
Investigators are now analyzing 1,600 pages of data from his phone. And sources tell CNN they are moving to extradite him to Austria and to tie him
to Haddadi and Usman and the Paris attackers.
Are you concerned that there may be many others who use the same route who we just -- who you just didn't know about?
BRISARD: Yes. We've seen that in the recent weeks. Several of them, individuals, who carry out individual attacks, inspired attacks, were
coming back from Syria using this -- the same route.
WARD: So there's a possibility that there are many more that you just don't know about.
BRISARD: There is a high possibility.
WARD: The documents show Haddadi's phone has also proven to be a treasure trove for investigators, revealing an ISIS network that fanned out through
southern and northern Europe. He had dozens of contacts. Some gave advice on crossing borders and evading the law. One tells Haddadi that he was
able to sneak into France by hiding in the bathroom of a train.
December 15th, five days after the raid, ISIS handler Abu Ahmad reaches out to his operatives, Haddadi and Usman, perhaps wondering about their
silence. "How are you," he writes. "What's become of you?" There is no reply.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: We do have some updates now on Adel Haddadi and Mohammad Usman. According to CNN sources, they have actually been extradited to France.
And the third man who we told you about, Abid Tabaouni, was arrested in July in Belgium. He is now awaiting extradition hearing to be extradited
But what's interesting, Robyn, is when you go through these documents, obviously, we didn't have a chance to put every single thing in this story,
you realize that the web is significantly bigger, there are many other men who have been arrested who we didn't have a time or a chance to get into.
And according to Belgians sources, there are at least 30 to 40 individuals who were involved in the Paris attack networks who are still at large,
CURNOW: Yeah. This, certainly, the supply of these ISIS operatives hasn't been exhausted, which is just so ominous. Clarissa Ward, great reporting
there. Thanks so much.
WARD: Thanks so much.
CURNOW: Well, you're watching CNN. This is the "International Desk." Still ahead, a series of deadly attacks strikes government facilities
across Syria. We'll have a live report from the region.
Plus, an Israeli parking garage collapses, killing two and trapping others. We'll take you to Tel Aviv where urgent rescue operations are currently
[10:21:05] CURNOW: It's 20 minutes past the hour. I'm Robyn Curnow. Thanks for joining me. And ISIS is suspected of being behind dozens of
deadly bombings Monday across Syria. State media reports at least 40 deaths and many more wounded. The attacks targeted government facilities
in multiple cities and locations, including the capital Damascus.
Well, our Arwa Damon joins us now from Istanbul, Turkey, with the latest. Arwa?
ARWA DAMON, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, and it most certainly seems as if this was at this stage a coordinated effort that ISIS is taking
responsibility for the deadliest of those attacks, taking place not in the capital Damascus, but rather, along a highway just outside of the coastal
city of Tartus. This is where the Russians also have their naval base.
And in that particular attack, according to state-run news agency, there was initially a car bomb. And afterwards, when people rushed to the scene
to try to rescue those who they could, there was a second individual who then detonated a suicide belt. These are the types of tactics that are
sadly the norm when it comes to these kinds of particular attacks, where you have the first strike that takes place, then the second one happens
exactly when rescue workers or people are just trying to rush in.
You also have on top of all of this the ongoing siege that is taking place in Aleppo. A siege that was very briefly lifted after there were intense
negotiations that allowed for, to a certain degree, a cessation of hostilities, and then the siege that was briefly lifted afterwards when
rebel forces were able to actually break it. But that according to a number of opposition and monitoring groups, that siege, once again, in
effect, once again, impacting the lives of hundreds of thousands of individuals.
And of course, you had these talks that were happening at the G20, Robyn. Especially the talks that took place between the U.S. and Russian
presidents that really resulted in basically no deal. The two sides cannot figure out how to negotiate a way forward on Syria, despite all sorts of
rhetoric about progress being made. And this is not a fact that is lost on the Syrian people, who for quite some time now have been feeling as if they
are pawns in a broader political game.
Turkey's President also spoke at the G20 telling reporters there that he was urging both Russia and the United States to once again, very seriously,
consider Turkey's proposition. A proposition that it has had for years now to establish a safe zone in northern Syria, to at the very least be able to
provide some sort of sanctuary for the population there. Robyn.
CURNOW: OK. On the ground in Turkey, thanks so much, Arwa Damon.
Well, Israeli rescuers are trying to find several construction workers believed to be trapped under a collapsed parking garage in Tel Aviv. Now,
the structure gave away quite dramatically, killing at least two people, injuring about 20 others. The garage was still under construction.
Our Oren Liebermann joins us now from Tel Aviv with the latest.
Oren, hi there, you're at the scene. And I understand these frantic rescue efforts continue.
We appear to have lost our Oren Liebermann. We'll try to re-establish our connection with him. In the meantime, there'll be much more news after
this short break. Stay with us.
[10:26:56] CURNOW: Hi, there. You're watching CNN. I want to take you straight back to Tel Aviv. We have re-established connection with our Oren
Liebermann. And we want to get an update on these frantic rescue efforts taking place after the collapse of a construction site there in Tel Aviv.
You're on the scene, Oren. What's it like?
OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Robyn, we just got a view from the top of one of these buildings where we looked down into the hole left by the
collapse of this four-storey parking garage. And we got a clear view of the difficulties facing rescue crews here.
As I mentioned, it's a four-storey parking garage. It's an underground parking garage, so all this is happening below the level of the ground that
we're standing on right now. Police say three of those storeys collapsed and they're standing on top of the four storey, which is some 50 or 60 feet
underground. That's what we saw.
We saw rescue efforts by hand, using shovels, using bolt cutters, trying to clear away the dirt, trying to get to what police say are seven people
still trapped, seven workers still trapped under ground there. They're trying to make communication with them, make contacts, see how they're
doing, and most importantly, get them out.
Now, police and rescue workers had pulled out two trapped workers from earlier. Now the rescue, the effort is on those seven that are still
We know earlier from police, two people have already died in this collapse that happened right around 11:30 this morning, and one remains in critical
condition as well as those two that died and the one that was critically injured. We know from Israel's emergency rescue services that some 24 were
injured from lightly to moderately, some treated here at the scene, some treated at local hospitals.
Now the rescue effort focusing on those seven workers still trapped under ground. We have heard from police that because this was an active work
scene, they have real time information or they had real time information on where these seven people were, so they know exactly where they're digging,
trying to get to them as quickly as possible.
Now, we did speak to a witness who said it sounded like an earthquake in the moment after the building collapsed. He couldn't see a couple feet in
front of his face because of the dust. Here's what he had to say.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SRAYA LISTENBURG, WITNESS: A lot of terror. The workers there was completely shocked, but they had lots of luck. There was, under the
ground, there was 10 minutes before it happened there was like 40 people working there, 40 or maybe more people who are working there and they just
had their break. So, there's lots of luck there that they went out.
And I saw one of the workers standing and start eating his sandwich, after pointing to say I even didn't start eat anything from the morning. And I
had the sandwich in my hand and everything fell down in one second.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LIEBERMANN: An important point he makes that it was lunchtime when this collapse happened, so a number of workers had come out of the building. So
the building itself, the construction site here was relatively empty, but those few still trapped in there that they're trying to get to right now.
Police have opened an investigation, Robyn, as to what exactly caused this building collapse.
Just a short while ago, they put a gag order on the details of the investigation, which indicates perhaps that there are some sort of
suspicion of criminal negligence that led to this collapse. We don't know yet. That investigation will be what happens next after this rescue effort
Behind me, though, Robyn, it looks like they're getting ready to work late into the evening.
[10:30:02] CURNOW: Yeah. And keep us posted on that rescue effort. Thank you so much, Oren Liebermann.
Out to Germany, where growing opposition to Chancellor Angela Merkel's open-door refugee policy is showing up at the poll. The elections in her
home state ended with her Christian Democratic Union in third place behind the anti-immigration party.
Well, Atika Shubert has more from Berlin.
What does all this tell us?
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, what it tells us is that the refugee issue is the key election issue, especially in this
particular state. I mean, the results were pretty resounding. The SPD, which is the coalition partner, did get the majority -- most of the votes
at 30 percent, but the AfD, Alternative for Germany, had nearly 21 percent.
And Merkel's party, the Christian Democrats, only 19 percent. That is the worst ever result her party has recorded in that state. And it now means
that the AfD has seats in nine state parliaments. That's more than half of the state parliaments here in Germany.
Now this is not going to change the government. It's not going to threaten Chancellor Merkel's position, but it does put a lot of pressure on her,
particularly on the refugee issue. Now, she did respond to those election results on the sidelines of the G20 Summit in China, and she said that
while many people may not agree with her and the government's decisions on refugees, she stands by her decisions and says she believes it was the
right thing to do.
CURNOW: And Atika, I mean, this certainly is an indication of how this -- the political landscape is shifting in Europe and how this sort of fight
against the far right begins at home for Mrs. Merkel, in fact, in her own backyard.
SHUBERT: Absolutely. I mean, the AfD speaks to a section of the public that is very fearful of what the refugee question means. It's interesting
that in this particular state, in her home state, actually, only 23,000 refugees were resettled there. That's actually only about 1 percent of the
population, and that's far less than other German states.
So, they're not actually as impacted by the refugee crisis but there are still those very real fears and concerns about the refugee crisis and
migration in general. So, she will have to respond to this, one way or the other. And of course, there is the general election looming next year. We
still don't know if Chancellor Merkel wants to add another term to her already more than 10 years in power.
CURNOW: Thanks so much, Atika Shubert there in Berlin.
Well, let's bring you some updates on twin bombings that have ripped through crowds in the capital of Afghanistan killing at least 24 people.
Local officials say the attack took place near the country's defense ministry. More than 90 people were wounded. The Taliban are claiming
And authorities in Singapore confirmed 16 new cases of the Zika virus on Monday, despite efforts to kill mosquitoes that carry the disease.
Singapore has reported nearly 260 cases since it was first detected over a week ago only. Many are concerned it may be the beginning of an outbreak
Now, of course, the most frightening part of Zika is that it causes microcephaly in babies, a brain disorder that results in severe
Let's look at how this disease may spread. Oliver Brady is a research fellow in mathematical modeling at the London School of Hygiene and
Hey there, Oliver. I mean, what is it that is so worrying for you, the fact that this number keeps on increasing? And how vulnerable is Asia?
OLIVER BRADY, LONDON SCHOOL OF HYGIENE AND TROPICAL MEDICINE, RESEARCH FELLOW: So, Asia, or wide regions of Asia, are really at a high risk of
the Zika epidemic spreading through two routes, really. The first is the spread of the epidemic from the Americans. There's really a large number
of travelers who travel between areas in the Americas and these big Asian mega cities, and the risk of introduction is really highest around now or
over the coming months, particularly in Southeast Asia.
Secondly, this second route that we are less certain about is that Zika may already be in Asia, just we haven't detected it yet. We haven't got the
right surveillance systems in place. We're not using the right tests. Either way, Zika's got a really quite high probability of causing an
outbreak in Asia.
CURNOW: Is it the same strain as what we've seen in Brazil?
BRADY: So, the evidence is quite scant at the moment. We don't have enough sequences. We simply don't have the history of the disease going
back far enough. The virus was sequenced just a day or so ago, and it looks more closely related to viruses in Asia than it does the one
currently circulating in Brazil and elsewhere, but it's still a very small amount of evidence to make the decision, Robyn.
CURNOW: And how difficult is it to try and pinpoint? Because it's difficult to assess, I mean, a lot of people who have Zika don't actually
even know they've had it.
BRADY: Sure. So, currently we only think about a fifth of people develop even any symptoms that they can reliably go to their doctor with. But like
you said, there's this very small proportions that do develop very serious illness to Guillain-Barre Syndrome, this paralyzing effects and pregnant
women, we know as the particularly high risk.
[10:35:03] CURNOW: We know about those -- the dreadful side effects of Zika for pregnant women. What about is it about this region and why is
there is such concern about Asia? And if there is concern about Asia, what about Africa, what about other parts separate of India, for example? I
mean where geographically are you concerned this is going to spread and what can be done to stop it?
BRADY: Sure, so, Asia, including South Asia places like India, Bangladesh and throughout Africa, particularly countries of Nigeria and Angola. In
the recent modeling analysis, we showed a really high risk of this introduction from the Americas, this outbreak spreading on intercontinental
scale. So, many of the countries lack the health resources to really detect Zika once it's there.
So, this is why Singapore is so interesting and what so important. If they could detect the cases early, they can show that it can be stopped, but it
really shows the importance of surveillance and hitting it early, if we can.
CURNOW: Oliver Brady, thank you so much.
BRADY: Thank you.
CURNOW: Well, you're watching CNN.
Still ahead, Donald Trump's campaign still sending out mixed messages on his immigration stance. We'll have more on what they're saying. That's
next. Stay with us. You're watching CNN.
CURNOW: Oh, it's the Labor Day holiday here in the U.S., a day which traditionally kicks off the final leg of the presidential race. So,
there's just over 60 days to go until the election, and the Trump campaign is still trying to clarify his immigration plans and reach out to minority
Here's Phil Mattingly with more.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump's campaign still struggling to explain his immigration policy.
MIKE PENCE, (R) VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think Donald Trump's been completely consistent.
MATTINGLY: Giving little clarification on their nominee's conflicting statements on how to handle the 11 million undocumented immigrants.
KELLYANNE CONWAY, TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: We don't know who will be left. We don't know where they live, who they are.
CHRIS CHRISTIE, (R) NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR: After the two to three million get put out of the country because they're committing crimes, hurting
Americans, selling drugs, doing things that are illegal, once those people get dealt with first I think everyone agrees on that issue, then we can
deal with the remaining eight million people.
MATTINGLY: Another top supporter of Trump says he no longer wants mass deportations.
RUDY GIULIANI, FORMER NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: Donald Trump, as he expressed in one of his interviews recently, would find it very, very difficult to
throw out a family that's been here for, you know, 15 years and they have three children, two of whom are citizens. And that is not the kind of
America he wants.
MATTINGLY: A comment that runs contrary to Trump's own words when he laid out his immigration plan after a visit to Mexico.
DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: For those here illegally today, who are seeking legal status, they will have one route and one route only,
to return home and apply for re-entry like everybody else.
[10:40:04] MATTINGLY: And new criticism following Trump in Detroit this weekend.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKERS: No Trump. No Trump.
MATTINGLY: Trump reaching out to African-American voters at a predominantly black church. And some critics question the sincerity of the
TRUMP: For centuries, the African-American church has been the conscience of our country, so true.
MATTINGLY: All this as Hillary Clinton is losing ground to Trump in the latest national polls, dogged by the FBI publicly releasing its report on
her use of a private e-mail server as secretary of state.
TIM KAINE, (D) VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: She's apologized for that. She said it was a mistake. And she's learned from it.
MATTINGLY: Clinton's running mate now slamming Trump with a new attack, referencing Watergate, drawing a parallel with Trump's seeming invitation
for Russia to hack and release Clinton's e-mails.
KAINE: Contrast the Hillary situation, where the FBI said there's no need for legal proceedings, with an attack that is being encouraged by Donald
Trump on the DNC by Russia similar to what led to the resignation of a president 30 years ago.
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CURNOW: Phil Mattingly reporting there.
Now, to a historic vote in Hong Kong, several pro-democracy activists have been elected to the city's legislative council among them, Nathan Law, one
of the Umbrella Movement student leaders. At 23, he'll become the city's youngest-ever lawmaker. Some candidates who are promoting Hong Kong
independence were barred from running.
CNN spoke by phone with Nathan Law a short time ago about what his victory might mean to China's leaders in Beijing.
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NATHAN LAW, UMBRELLA MOVEMENT STUDENT LEADER: Well, I think they will be very worried because, actually, I'm representing a new vision of Hong
Kong's future and a brand-new force of resistant Kim. And actually, the commission party is worrying that would it be another wave of protests,
another wave of resistance.
And I believe that for the following four years, not only talking about policies in the LegCo but also I will continue my civil disobedience and
organizational work outside the council in order to push forward more resistance power and then try to fight against autocracy.
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CURNOW: And the election is especially significant, because it was the first since pro-democracy protests shut down parts of Hong Kong two years
And the eastern gorilla is the world's largest living primate, it's an ape species that's one of our closest relatives, but now these magnificent
animals are one step away from extinction. The International Union for Conservation of Nature has just listed the eastern gorilla as "critically
endangered." Their population has declined more than 70 percent in the past 20 years.
However, others in the animal kingdom have fared better. The giant panda has been elevated from endangered to vulnerable as its population
increases. Now, this is a critical step further away from extinction and a nod to conservation efforts in China to protect these iconic animals.
Well, thanks so much for joining me. I'm Robyn Curnow. This is the "International Desk." And I'll be back in just over an hour.
In the meantime, I'm going to hand you over to "World Sport."
[10:45:14] ALEX THOMAS, CNN ANCHOR: Hello. Welcome to CNN "World Sport." I'm Alex Thomas in London.
For the first time in the modern era, there were three Frenchmen in the quarterfinals of the U.S. Open tennis championships, and Rafael Nadal is
the biggest casualty of the French renaissance. Twice Nadal came from a set down against 22-year-old Frenchman Lucas Pouille to take this to a
fifth set. The three match in a row that Pouille's been forced to go the distance, but the youngster shook off any fatigue when a tiebreak in the
decider of their fourth-round clash. He even had to recover from a break of serve down in that final set before knocking out the men's number four
Nadal didn't use his wrist injury as an excuse, but said afterwards he's still not fully recovered. And for the rest of the season must work in
improving his game.
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RAFAEL NADAL, CURRENT FOURTH SEED WON TITLE IN 2010 AND 2013: I'm so glad in the match. He started so strong and I fight until the end. It was --
There's days that I could do better but had the right attitude that I fight it until the last ball. That I need to -- I need something else and I need
something more, but it was not there today. I'm going to keep working to try to find. But yes, it was a very, very close match that anything could
happen. And, just congratulate the opponent that probably he played it with better position than me the last couple of points.
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THOMAS: OK, let's get the view of the host of our monthly "Open Court" tennis show, former Wimbledon champion Pat Cash who joins us live from our
New York CDO.
Pat, great to see you again. Do you think Nadal's loss tells us he's on his way back to the top or that he may never get there?
PAT CASH, CNN OPEN COURT HOST: Well, that's a very good question. That's a debate. I'll tell you what, that's a debate that we have in the locker
room with the legends events. Everybody's got an opinion on Rafael Nadal. Will he make it back? What's going on? Is it technique, is it confidence?
What's happening? But basically, there's no real clear sign that he's going to be back up the top and fighting for Grand Slam titles. He cruised
through the first few rounds.
For me, there's always a sign of his consistency of the depth of his shot. And it was all over the place even although he did win quite comfortably in
the first three rounds. And the problem is, when you come against better players, and Pouille was a -- is a up-and-coming Frenchman, and he's very
flamboyant. He has very few technical errors and a lot of power. He's only 22 so he's going to be one of the young guns we're going to see him
for a long time.
He's stepped up inside the court and just damaged those short balls like Nadal's -- like Djokovic has been doing, Federer has been doing, Murray
have been doing over the last few years with Rafa. And there's no wrist injury. For me, it's not an issue. It's his consistency with his depth
and his technique.
And I don't really see any signs of it improving. He works so hard, Nadal. I've never seen anybody work so hard on fixing his problem. But he's
looking in the wrong area, in my opinion, because he has unturned every -- any stone there is to try and become a better player. And we've seen him
do that year in, year out, improve his game from a better volleyer, a better server, a better mover.
He constantly improves his game, but he is stuck at the moment. And he has to looking in a different area because he's certainly not looking in --
he's not improving. He's just going to be kicked -- consistently get beaten by the top guys. And that's just my opinion. I kind of hope I'm
wrong. I really do. Because we need a Rafa Nadal and he's such an inspirational player and he fights like nobody else, but he's got some
issues that I don't know if he's going to get over them.
THOMAS: Yeah, a really popular player. Pat, stay there for a second. I just want to tell our viewers that France will of course be guaranteed a
semifinalist because Pouille meets compatriot Gael Monfils during the same quarter of the draw as world number one and defending champion Novak
The other side of the quarter final draw be decided later on Monday, Andy Murray among those in action in the men's singles.
The Williams sisters back on courts in the women's singles, Angelique Kerber and Caroline Wozniacki among the fourth-round winners on Sunday.
And, Pat, Serena's world number one ranking under threat because Kerber is still in this one. Is that going to add to the pressure that she's feeling
as she continues to chase history over those Grand Slam titles?
CASH: I'm not sure if Serena -- I think she certainly felt it last year when she was going for the Grand Slam, the four slams in the calendar year.
She didn't play her best tennis in the semifinal. But I think that's eased a little bit having a Wimbledon title.
The thing is that Kerber is a very, very good player. She's improved a lot. She is super quick. She chases down a lot of balls. Serena will be
probably looking at Halep as well, who is a similar player withholding a racket with the other hand. Kerber's the left-hander, makes a little bit
tricky of it. Halep is another player who runs a lot of balls down.
[10:50:15] There's a quite a few challenges there for Serena. I think at her best, of course, she is the best, there's no doubts about it, but when
she has to hit that extra ball all the time as Kerber and some of the other players make her do, and of course, the balls here at the U.S. Open, the
conditions are quite fast, and particularly through the air and players can lose their confidence and balls can start flying around a bit. The other -
- the flip side is, is that because the balls are fast, particularly the women's balls are slightly faster than the men's, then Serena can hit a lot
of winners and a lot of aces, and she's unstoppable once that gets going. But there are certainly some challenges ahead and I think Kerber's the
THOMAS: OK, Pat, many thanks for your time for your thoughts. Pat Cash there live from New York, the host of our monthly "Open Court" tennis show.
Go to cnn.com/tennis to get much more from Pat from his monthly show.
Now, hours before Kosovo's first competitive football match as an independent nation. It's being reported the 15 players have been cleared
to play by world governing body FIFA. The group includes two former Albania internationals. It's thought FIFA's made an exception for Kosovo,
which was only recognized as a member earlier this year.
Kosovo's in Finland for its World Cup qualifier. And the secretary-general at the Kosovoan F.A. told me earlier they've been waiting for this historic
moment for a long time.
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EROLL SALIHU, FOOTBALL FEDERAL KOSOVO SECRETARY GENERAL: Next generation will play next bound to 12 years because most of them are 18, 19, 20, more
younger. So the main goal would be to qualify after two years. But I'd say we have to give our best and to try also to qualify for the match up in
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THOMAS: Kosovo aren't the only team making international football history. In a moment, we're going to tell you how Uganda's also ended a long, long
wait for qualification.
THOMAS: Welcome back to CNN "World Sport." 2013 champions and recent Olympic bronze medalists Nigeria won't be there, but Uganda's ended a near
four-decade wait to qualify for Africa's Cup of Nations. They're 1 of 16 teams confirmed for next year's championship in Gabon. And earlier, we
spoke to Uganda's Serbian coach, Milutin Sredojevi?.
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MILUTIN SREDOJEVI?, UGANDA'S FOOTBALL COACH: In a way, I feel extremely proud because this is a product of enthusiasm and improvisation from my
side, but for the appeasement (ph) of the players, and love and prayers of the millions of supporters, no matter of political, religious or tribal
belongings. I need to say that this is an account of my best coaching career in the continent in the last 15 years.
[10:55:03] In Africa, I coached in six different countries. I won 12 different leagues and cups in four different countries. I have been three
times in semi-finals of Champions League. But I need to accept that this is the pure crown of my career.
We believe that with support of our government, it is supposed to be much more concrete if we shall succeed to prepare very well and to not be just
participants on the final tournament but also to be an competitor and contenders.
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THOMAS: Back here in Europe, Thomas Muller start as Germany began the defense of their football World Cup crown with a 3-0 victory in Norway.
The Bayern Munich forward suffering a gold route to Euro 2016 a couple of months ago, but he was back to his best here. Scoring a goal in each half
as the world champions leapt straight to the top of Group C. Only each of the group winners is guaranteed a place at Russia 2018.
That's almost it for this edition of "World Sport." Before we go, we got some high-speed action to show you from Mexico City. And one of the most
prestigious occasions from Britain's equestrian calendar. That's all in our latest "Rolex Minute." Bye-bye.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At the fairly horse trials, the combination of Christopher Burton and Nobilis 18, coped best with the course and
conditions after the dressage and cross-country disciplines.
Burghley House in England is the splendid setting for one of the most prestigious competitions in the equestrian calendar. Entering the final
show jumping phase with four fences in hand, Burton needed every one of them. The Australian ensuring that his first-ever Burghley title was a
There was drama and excitement as Mexico City hosted the fifth round of the FIA World Endurance Championship. The opening hour saw an intense battle
between German rivals Audi and Porsche. As the rain fell, the Polk Audi number eight out and regained and then lost the lead after (inaudible).
Mark Webber, Timo Bernhard, and Brendon Hartley made a two World Endurance Championship wins and two starts in Mexico. And Porsche extend their lead
in the manufacturer's trophy.