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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You know firsthand the challenges we still face, challenges that often affect the Latino community harshly.

[20:00:03] When governors refuse to expand Medicaid, that hits Latinos harder than most. When folks block an increase in the minimum wage or refuse to expand paid family leave, that hurts the pocketbook of millions of Hispanic families.

So, we've got make sure this recovery reaches all Americans. We've got to help more students not just get to college but finish. We've got to reform our criminal justice system. And we got to protect our children from the madness of gun violence.

And yes we've got finally make meaningful, effective immigration reform a reality in this country.


I'm proud of the executive actions I've taken to modernize our system. I'm proud of the work we've done to help show more than 740,000 DREAMers that the country they grew up in, the country they love, believes that they are worthy of this country's blessings, just like your kids, just like my kids.

But if we're truly going to fix this broken system, then we're going to have to push back against bluster and falsehoods and promises of higher walls. We need a comprehensive solution, one that works for our families and our businesses, that grows our economy, that enhances our culture. We need an approach that upholds our tradition as a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws.

And it is possible to do that. It is possible to insist on a lawful and orderly system while still seeing students and their hard-working parents not as criminals. Not as rapists. But as families who came here for the same reasons that all immigrants came here, to work, and to learn and to build a better life.

And look, throughout this political season, you know, the talk around these issues is cut deeper than in years past. It's a little more personal. It's a little meaner, a little uglier. And folks are betting that if they can drive us far enough apart. And if they can put down enough of us because of where we come from or what we look like or what religion we practice, then that may pay off at the polls. But I'm telling you that is a bet their going to lose. We've seen

this kind of ugliness and anger and vitriol before. That kind of politics sometimes may carry the day in the short-term. I know that there are a lot of folks who have this notion of what the real America looks like. And somehow it only includes a few of us.

But who's going to decide who the real America is? Who's to determine that in this nation of immigrants, in a nation where unless you are a Native American, you came here from someplace else that you have a greater claim than anybody here.

So, we can't let that brand of politics win, and if we band together and if we organize our communities, if we deliver enough votes, then the better angels of our nature will carry the day. And progress will happen. But it is going to take all of us. This is not something that a president can do alone. It is not something the next president will be able do alone either. No matter how tough she is.


So we've got to work to get a Congress that is willing to act on immigration reform. That means we need more than just the people in this room tonight. We're going the need some fresh faces under the Capitol dome. It is going take work on all of our parts.

And I have faith, because over these last eight years, every time I've fallen short. Every time I've faced doubts or been taught a tough lesson or experienced a loss, what got me through has been you. You have picked me up. CHC's picked me up.

It's knowing that I've got allies like -- like Linda and Ruben and Charlie and Lydia, fighting tooth and nail on the Hill, and back in your home states, even on tough votes.

[20:05:09] It's knowing that you are fostering the next generation of leaders, including more than forty of your former fellows that have helped lead the way in my administration.

It's knowing you are giving folks like Diego Quinones a chance.

Where is Diego? Is Diego here? There he is back there.

So, when Diego was 7 years old, Diego moved to Arkansas from Mexico with his parents. His dad took a job repairing and building wooden pallets, which is a lot of hard work. Calloused hands. Few years later, his dad opened his own business.

So, Diego was walking at 5:00 and loading and unloading pallets by hand, working every weekend through high school. His family didn't have a lot of money, but they had belief, faith in America, because as he says, and I'm quoting here, if you come here and work hard, eventually you will succeed.

And today, thanks to DACA, Diego is first in his family to graduate from college.


And now he's a fellow here at CHCI. And one day he hopes to go into government himself and make things better, not just for Latino kids like him, but for every single person in the United States. It's young people like that keep me going, folks who prove that immigrants aren't somehow changing the American character, immigrants are the American character.

That is who we are. It is the DREAMers full of optimism, the moms and dads working long hours to give their kids a better shot, the entrepreneurs who came here to start new businesses and put Americans to work, the teachers and nurses and the lawyers who wake up at the crack of dawn to get ahead, and the folks who clean up after us and the folks who care for our grandparents, the folks who are so proud of this country that they carry a pocket constitution in their breast pockets. That is the America I know. That is the America I believe in more strongly than ever.

So thank you for picking me up every step of the way. Thank you for making this country great. We've got more work to do. But we will keep on making progress and create a brighter future for everybody in this country we love. Si se puede.

Thank you. Thank you, CHCI. God bless you. God bless the United States of America. Thank you.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: President Obama wrapping up his speech before the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. That's in Washington, D.C. Believe it or not, the president just the warm up. Hillary Clinton will be speaking in just a few minutes.

While we wait let's check with our panel and talk about what the president said. I want to bring in Paul Begala here right now.

Paul, the president really talked about mostly about himself right there. He in fact did not mention either presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, by name. Though he did make, you know, not so thinly veiled references about them.

PAUL BEGALA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: He did. I love when he said -- he talked about how the folks at the Congressional Hispanic Caucus have lifted him up and no president can do this alone no matter how tough she is and the place roared. I mean, I think that was great. It's very appropriate.

It wasn't the time for just a campaign style speech but one of the great assets Hillary Clinton has is that the president's job approval rating is moving up. It's higher now than it was even when he was reelected. In "Washington Post" poll is 58. It's probably like 52 in most national polls.

But that's terrific. You can run with that. You can win with that. So, he's going to be a really effective surrogate.

BERMAN: But you do know, Christine Quinn, you do know, Christine Quinn, former city council speaker here in New York, Hillary Clinton supporter, you know, getting elected for a third term a party elected for a third term is very difficult to do in this country. And President Obama while he may be popular now, you know, while he's had himself reelected and won elections for himself he hasn't shown ability to elect other people, has he?

I mean, you had the congressional elections in 2010 and 2014 and didn't go too well for the Democrats.

CHRISTINE QUINN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, look, I think there are people who would say. Liz Warren would say President Obama has helped get people elected and there's a list of other folks. But I think what's really President Obama reminded us tonight in his speech is, of course, what you said is correct politically.

But it's not as hard when you contrast all President Obama has done for the country. Particularly for the Latino and Hispanic community against the person Hillary Clinton is running against, a man who's based most of his camp, a lot of his campaign specifically on attacking immigrants, talking about building a wall, calling Mexicans rapists and criminals, attacking a Mexican-American judge and saying he wasn't fit jurist to overhear his cases.

[20:10:07] When you hear President Obama and you're reminded of all he's done with Secretary Clinton and others to help the Latino and the Hispanic children, so personified in Diego's story, you are reminded what's at stake and just how dangerous Donald Trump will be to our country and to the Latino-Hispanic and immigrant community. And that matters to people like me who aren't immigrants but my grandparents all came from Ireland searching for a better life and getting it here and I want others to have that.

BERMAN: Kayleigh McEnany, I want you to respond to Christie Quinn, Donald Trump supporter here. But also, you know, President Obama did not mention Donald Trump by name but he did talk about the bluster, falsehoods and higher walls which t president said he's against in this campaign. I think we can all assume he's talking about Donald Trump.

KAYLEIGH MCENANY, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: We can assume that. And certainly based on this speech yesterday, out on the campaign trail, it is no secret he's not a fan of Donald Trump. That being said, you know, I think what Christine just said is emblematic of what I think the problem is with the Obama/Clinton campaign, because they are linked together in this. And it's describing the economy for viewers and for voters rather than acknowledging how they feel.

You know, I heard one say, and this was a telling moment. If only we got the news out that median wages rose. If only we got the news out. It is not about that. It is about how feel and two-thirds of the country still feels we're heading in the wrong direction. Still close to 60 percent think the economy is getting worse, how voters feel and it's certainly how Hispanic and black voters feel because their economic indicators have lagged behind white voters to a big extent.

So there hasn't been this closing inequality gap where you look at net worth, where the average white person net wealth is $142,000, the average black person is $17,000. That is abysmal. We need to remedy this gap here. It shouldn't exist. It hasn't gotten better under Obama and won't get better under Clinton and this is how voters feel.

And not acknowledging that is not going to help you win this election.

QUINN: Kayleigh, I don't think you listened to the president just now.


QUINN: Because he did acknowledge the gains that we have made but also acknowledged the work that needs to be done. People can be grateful and not fully satisfied or declaring victory at the same time. And I think the president eloquently spoke to that reality.

And Hillary Clinton has dedicated her life to bridging that gap. And there is nothing in Donald Trump's history of being sued by the Department of Justice, being forced and, you know, directed to follow laws against discrimination and pro civil rights law. There is nothing about his history of sending jobs overseas and taking good jobs away from Americans that would give anybody any sense that he would sustain the president's gains or bring new --


BERMAN: Mary Katharine, conservative writer with "The Federalist" -- go ahead.

MARY KATHARINE HAM, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: He's been giving this speech for essentially eight years. And you are right, he does acknowledge both sides, but the two candidates running for president now after him are both running as change candidates, because people are not happy. And that is the bottom line.

If both candidates are running as change candidates, he didn't get done what he wanted and his speeches remain aspirational and he's an all right speaker.


BEGALA: Right.

HAM: And people in that room too are like man really wish we had another one of those, but I do think there is an issue of whether he can be an effective surrogate in the places where Donald Trump can be stronger. Somewhere like Ohio.

There is part of his speech here. I'm not far left on immigration. I'm not far right. But when he's saying, unless you're a Native American, you came here from somewhere else and he sort of blends this into anyone is American.

And there are many people in Ohio and places in the Rust Belt who look at that and go, wait, there is a line there is a process people go through to become American and you are not just American if you show up here. And that is something he's going to have trouble relating to.

BERMAN: One of the things he talks about, he says, what is a real American? The president focused on that. And for some people being a real American only includes a small number of people. And he question who gets to determine, Ryan, who is a real American?

RYAN LIZZA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes, I mean, that's a shot at Trump, right? That's a shot, that's a -- saying Hillary Clinton is running campaign about unity and Trump is running one about division. That's their argument.

I think you hit a point about the distinction between Hillary Clinton and Obama's message, right? Obama wants to cheer lead for his eight years and talk about the positive things that had been done. He wants to talk about the positive numbers.

Hillary Clinton has a much more difficult task. She wants to sort of celebrate and embrace what's been popular over the last eight years. But at the same time, make sure she's addressing the real concerns that people have, people who say that enough hasn't been done. So, she's walking much more of a tight rope and their messages do at times diverge I think because of that.

But on the poll -- it is very complicated. As Paul pointed out, he's got -- Obama has got 50-plus percent approval rating. So, if that doesn't track with the understanding of the electorate that is also 60 to 66 percent change electorate and I think part of that is just polarization, Democrats like Obama even if they want change, they might want more liberal change rather than conservative.

QUINN: Right.

SCOTTIE NELL HUGHES, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: You can like the person and not like the policy and you're looking at right now, the real Americans, real taxpayers are actually bearing the brunt of $113 billion the illegals are costing us today. $1,000 on average per household that Americans are having to pay right now.

And it's interesting that you talk about Obama in jobs when just this week, Ford announced, in the next two years, they are going to move all small manufacturing out Detroit to Mexico. So, actually, in that case, Obama has caused jobs to lose to Mexico at this point. But it's really interesting to talk about job creation and Donald Trump, jobs losing to other country when we have a fact just this week of Barack Obama exporting jobs -- causing jobs to leave America and go --

QUINN: But Donald Trump didn't lose -- he sent jobs. He made --


HUGHES: Ninety-six percent of all manufacturing of clothing right now is in other countries because we are not an environment in America today that respects jobs.

QUINN: He made a decision as a CEO to send those jobs. And there are others in the fashion industry who make the decision to stay here. He could lead by --


QUINN: But the question is, are you going to lead by example wherever you are in public life or are you going to take the easy road that hurts American workers and then come out hypocritically and pretend you have never done and act like you are something different?

MCENANY: Or you're going to be the presidential candidate who supported NAFTA, who supported TPP, who supported all of these policies that did export jobs overseas. And then when it's politically convenient to you, shortly before you run for president, after you call the TPP the gold standard of trade deals, then all of a sudden, you change because it is convenient for you then.

QUINN: That is incorrect presentation --

MCENANY: That is very correct.

BERMAN: You get to tell us why it is incorrect.

QUINN: At the break.

BERMAN: Paul Begala has to say about that after the break.

Hillary Clinton set to speak right now right in front of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. We'll be right back.


[20:20:42] BERMAN: All right. Dueling speeches right now. We're waiting on Hillary Clinton to speak in Washington. But right now, Donald Trump in New Hampshire live. Let's listen in.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: -- and one in four since China joined the world trade organization, both Hillary Clinton-backed disasters. Bad judgment, remember. Bad judgment.

And I'm going appoint the best and toughest trade negotiators. And we have the best in the world. We have the greatest business people and the greatest negotiators in the world. We don't use them. We use political hacks.

We're going stand up and defend our American workers.


Any deal that doesn't increase jobs and wages in America, I will oppose and I mean seriously oppose. Not politician oppose. We are going turn our bad trade deals into great ones.

Another major reform is going to be school choice. I've outlined -- and by the way, we are going to terminate Common Core and bring education --

(APPLAUSE) I've outlined a plan to provide every disadvantaged child in America the freedom to choose the private, public, magnet or religious school of his or her choice. This will help lift millions of poor African- American and Hispanic children out of poverty. The poverty in our country is unbelievable.

It's time to break up the failed Democratic control over our inner cities and provide real hope and opportunity to every single community in this nation. Our policies on taxes, trade, regulations and educations will grow. Incomes will boost and go right through the roof. We have to increase people's incomes.

Do you know that many people in this room made more money 18 years ago in real wages -- think of it -- than they do now? They are working harder now. They are older. And many people because of Obamacare and for other reasons are holding two jobs.

So, you're getting older. You are working harder. And you're making less. I don't think that sounds great.

The only good thing is that I'm also working a hell of a lot harder that I've ever worked so I don't feel so sorry for you. Working hard.

BERMAN: All right. That's Donald Trump. He's in Laconia, New Hampshire, addressing the crowd there. A Trump rally, his second speech of the day. He gave an economic speech earlier today.

We are waiting on Hillary Clinton. She'll be speaking in Washington any minute.

Now, there is a little bit of other Donald Trump news to report tonight. "The Washington Post" just posted an article online, went up just a few minutes ago. And in this interview, Donald Trump once again refused to say that he thinks that Barack Obama, the president of the United States, was born in the United States.

I'm going read you direct quote of what he says. He says, "I'll answer that question at the right time. I just don't want to answer it yet," unquote.

For the record, the president has produced a birth certificate, not just one but two, a short and a long one. He was born in Hawaii. Hawaii is in the United States of America.

Back now with the panel. We want to discuss not just that. Donald Trump refusing to back off his birther stand once again.

But, Scottie Nell Hughes, I want to start with you because in the last block, you said Ford Motor Company moving jobs to Mexico. In fact, what's happening is they are opening a plant in Mexico, moving small car manufacturing there. But the CEO of Ford told our Poppy Harlow that in fact not one single American job will be lost. They are going make other cars at that plant.

HUGHES: Well, you can sugar-coat it how you want. But -- BERMAN: Scottie, sugar coat? Hang on. It is not sugar coating to

say no one is getting laid off. Donald Trump says everything is getting fired there. They are not. They are making a different kind of car.

HUGHES: Right, 2,800 jobs will be employed in Mexico. Since Barack Obama came in, 40 percent of more jobs, 675,000 jobs in the auto industry alone are now in Mexico.

[20:25:08] Detroit, 90 -- there are 288,000 workers in 1994, now, there's only 150,000 automotive workers. You cannot tell me that those jobs have all been export to Mexico under the Obama administration.

BERMAN: You brought up the point, of course --


QUINN: Scottie, you said those jobs were being lost. That's not true, A. And B, it is curious for Trump supporters to be talking so much about the auto industry when Donald Trump did not support the auto industry bail out which would have cost us far more jobs.

But I want to add on the "Washington Post" story, not only did Mr. Trump answer the question as was quoted. He also to agree disassociated himself from Kellyanne Conway's comments where she said Donald Trump does believe the president was born in the United States. He said and I'm paraphrasing, well, she's totally allowed to say what she thinks and what she wants. He did not say she was correct.

Again, we have Donald Trump standing by a factually incorrect statement that's been disproven between -- we've see two birth certificates from the president of the United States. It is racism on the part of Donald Trump. Nothing else.

MCENANY: I'm glad you brought up the other quotes he gave to "The Washington Post". One of them was, "I'm not going to talk about this. I haven't talked about this since the beginning of the campaign because I want to focus on jobs and the economy and terrorism."

And, by the way, when you look at latest Gallup poll, issues most important to the American voters, noticeably absent from that is the birther controversy.


BERMAN: Hang on one second. Why is there a statue of limitations on saying that the president wasn't born in the United States? Why does it matter that he wants to talk about other things? Unless he says he was wrong when notion the president wasn't born here?

MCENANY: He's not going to get back into this jargon and this continual news story and the Clinton campaign wants to bring it up and I get that, because you guys want to get in the mud, you want to associate all of us, we're the deplorables, Scottie and I are deplorables. I get you guys want to go there. Donald Trump has taken this campaign to a higher level. Guess what

you saw him do today and yesterday and last week -- policy speeches. Hillary Clinton stood on the stage calling him a showman, laughing

about Dr. Oz. The Trump campaign wants to talk about policies that help the American voters.

You guys want to talk about the birther movement. There is a difference here --


MCENANY: Which is why my candidate is on rise and your candidate is on the fall.

QUINN: Let's be clear -- Donald Trump was asked a series of questions today by "The Washington Post".

MCENANY: The liberal --

QUINN: Don't -- again. Attack the messenger. It is not Trump M.O., attack the messenger.

He -- they brought it up. He was in the interview. No one put a gun to his head to meet with "The Washington Post". He chose to do it, whatever he thinks of them. He was in this story today and it would be irresponsible for us not to talk about it.

Now, he was in the beginnings of the birther movement. He started this. And he can now not just walk away in it because he knows it is a bad -- incorrect racist position.

BERMAN: Furrowed brow.


BEGALA: Kayleigh, you are a gifted person but you can't say Donald Trump is taking the campaign to a higher place.


BEGALA: Well, you can, but he's going to be struck by lightning.

MCENANY: He's given policy speeches. Your candidate has not.

BEGALA: He attacked a minister this morning.

MCENANY: He's not attacking a minister.

BEGALA: He did. A few months ago, he attacked the pope. He made horrible comments about (INAUDIBLE) mocked his physical disability. I mean, it's just on and on.

I mean, you can support him. I can oppose him. That's all fine. You can't pretend he's put the campaign on a higher plane. That's absurdity. It's absurd --


MCENANY: There's one candidate in this race who attacked millions of Americans calling them desperate or deplorable. It's not my candidate. It's Hillary Clinton.

BEGALA: In the next morning, she said that was a mistake and apologized.


MCENANY: He apologized for the math.

HUGHES: No, she regretted it. She didn't apologize.


BERMAN: One at a time. Paul and Christine.

BEGALA: Do you believe the president was born in America?

MCENANY: I do believe he's born in America. But I'm not --

BEGALA: Why doesn't Trump?

MCENANY: This is an exact example of what I'm talking about.

BEGALA: Millions of people think it's racist.

QUINN: It is racist.

MCENANY: No, no, because Donald Trump today put forth an economy plan that lowers tax brackets of all Americans and look at what the other side of this table is talking about, the birther moment.

Do you know what Scottie just talked about? Ford Motors moving --

BERMAN: They are not moving jobs.


QUINN: They're not moving jobs, Kayleigh. That's not the fact.

MCENANY: This is where our campaign wants to go and every time our campaign goes there, the response from this side is the birther movement.

BERMAN: Mary Katharine Ham?

HAM: Wait, wait --

BERMAN: Actually I did say Christine first. Then, Mary Katharine.

QUINN: A couple of things here. Facts matter. They're not moving jobs overseas. Facts matter.

[20:30:02] This was not a conversation that the Clinton campaign or the Obama people ever started. That is factually just --

MCENANY: But you are bringing it up --

QUINN: No, again. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I am not "The Washington Post".

MCENANY: They are an arm of your campaign.

QUINN: Oh please. Good lord.

MCENANY: They have 20 ...

QUINN: Oh ...


MCENAY: ... of Donald Trump and they're unable to ...

QUINN: Please if the "Washington Post" was the arm of my -- our campaign, it would be writing much that a stuff on a regular basis.


MCENANY: They have 20 on something ...


QUINN: And let's just say your -- your great different reality that Donald Trump is the policy candidate who's elevating thing. This week he put out -- I won't go to the specifics, but a highly flawed child care plan. Said the secretary had none. When she's had a child care plan out there for a year.

So this is another example of the Trump campaign distorting the facts to try to make Donald Trump something other than he is. What he is, is a con man and we've seen that yet again.

BERMAN: Mary Katherine was waiting patiently.

KATHARINE: I think it is fair on one hand to say why is the "Washington Post" focusing on this fairly fringe issue that I don't think is all that important in this campaign. It's also fair to say Donald Trump could just say, yeah I think he's born in America. We can move on.

BEGALA: Right.

HAM: I'm not sure we would actually move on. But ...


QUINN: I would, I promise.

HAM: I think this is problematic (ph) of he does not like to be disciplined and he's -- but he's doing it and has done it in and give him his falsely (ph) speeches. Kellyanne Conway I think is part of the reason that he has been recently and that's the reason she came up in this discussion. I say like -- she's the one imposing when he makes these smarter decisions. And he's bucking a little at it. And he's going continue to.

BEGALA: The gains he's made in the polls have been largely with college-educated white folks. Now they are Republican ...

BERMAN: You know, in Ohio and Florida, in fact he's now leading among those and he was trailing.

BEGALA: No Republican ever lost in the -- his right. Holing no Democrats have ever won than President Obama was reelected pretty comfortably losing by 14 points, but Hillary has been winning them, now she's narrowly losing. This is an important develop in the race. It's why this thing in the birther movement hurts him. If he's got any sense he's given up on the African-American vote. OK.

I mean he was getting two or three which is what George Wallace got. George Wallace got 3 percent of black vote, I don't think Trump is going to do much better. But a lot of college educated white people cannot possibly support somebody who they believe is racist and a lot of people believe the birther thing is racist and when Trump fails to disavow given an easy opportunity to do so it hurts him with the voters he needs to win.

As a political strategist I'm glad he's doing it, because he's further desecrating himself in the eyes of the voters he needs, but if just as -- if I can put my hat on thinking about the Trump strategist, they must be tearing their hair out now, because his -- they have made gains with this key constituency and now there's going right back, attacking that minister this morning who was wonderfully gracious to him but told him not to be too political at her church and then now revving the birther issue because he won't disavow it is going to hurt him again with the voters he needs.

BERMAN: Ryan Lizza, I want to bring you this conversation, because Kayleigh here. What you do call the "Washington Post" the ...

MCENANY: I call them an arm, as they're unable ...



BERMAN: ... I'm just clarifying what he said. An arm ...

MCENANY: An arm of (inaudible) of the campaign. That is what I consider.


LIZZA: I think ...


LIZZA: ... it's a kernel of truth in this idea that there is a lot more reporters and a aggressive reporting on Donald Trump. For one reason. I don't think -- I don't think it's conspiracy everyone in the press and is crazy liberals. Hillary Clinton has been around a really long time.

When there is a scandal that preponderance pops up about Hillary Clinton, I don't think you can say that the press is not aggressively pursue it and report it. The e-mail story has dogged her from day one. At the same time most people know who she is and they have very set feelings about her. Donald Trump is the new sort of character on the political scene and he's got a very long, very complicated history. Lots of business deals. And so that's just going to attract a lot more scrutiny.

MCENANY: Ryan I think that ...

BERMAN: Hey, hey ...

LIZZA: And I think that the sort structural thing that you're seeing there.

BERMAN: And on the scene there Ryan. You know, what journalist would just say, oh Donald Trump you don't want to talk about that anymore? In that case it is a settled issue.

LIZZA: Well I just say, the two quotes in the piece. You got his -- his campaign manager who in a month has really done a lot of work with this one constituency that Paul talked about college educated whites. The sort of the most important group out there right now, Republicans have to win, and some has to be better. And they have targeted that group in a very disciplined manner spent a month improving their numbers among that group.

So if I were Donald Trump I'd be listening to everything Kellyanne Conway says. So when she says yes Obama was born in the United States, it's sort of a wink in a nod, like maybe my candidate would be vet and, you know, and, you know, I said that I doubt but ...


LIZZA: ... Trump is stubborn, we all know he's very stubborn and doesn't like to admit he's wrong.

BERMAN: All right, hang one second, I know you want to get in, but we're going take a break. We're waiting on two speeches right now, Donald Trump -- well Donald Trump still speaking in New Hampshire right now, we may go back to that.

But also Hillary Clinton set to speak in Washington D.C. in just a few minutes. And Donald Trump, Donald Trump also went on "Tonight Show." had his hair messed up and also talked about this issue we've been talking about here about staying on message.

So that, plus Hillary Clinton's first day back in the campaign trail, when we come back.

[20:35:04] DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: ... and new factories will come back and they will come back rushing into our shores. It will be a beautiful sight to be hold.

Once more, we will have a government of, by and for the people.


BERMAN: All right, we are waiting on Hillary Clinton. She is due to speak in Washington very shortly. We'll bring that to you as soon as it happens. Donald Trump, he just finished up speaking in New Hampshire. As, you know Mr. Trump has been campaigning on jobs, specifically keeping here in the United States. He speaks often about jobs going to Mexico.

Earlier today Donald Trump said there is a new example of that and that Ford was planning to fire all the employees in one plant and move them to Mexico. Well in an interview with CNN's Poppy Harlow, Ford CEO Mark Fields, said that simply not true.


POPPY HARLOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So it is not true that Ford will be, quote, "firing all of its employees in the United States." Will Ford cut any U.S. jobs as a result off this move? One? Any single one?

[20:40:13] MARK FIELDS, FORD CEO: Absolutely not. Zero. And what we announced is that we'll be moving our focus out of Michigan so that we can compete more financially in that particular segment. But at the same time and that's an agreement, we have what the UWA and what we'll be doing is we'll be replacing those products with two very exciting new products, so not one job will be lost. And most of our investment is here in the U.S. and that's the way it's going to continue to be.

HARLOW: So Mr. Trump is wrong, is that correct, Mark?

FIELDS: That is correct.


BERMAN: So Mark Fields there with Poppy Harlow. Finishing up. You can see he says Donald Trump is wrong. Ford is not moving jobs to Mexico, not a single a job, he says will go.

But Paul Begala, if I can bring you in here, because, you know, Donald Trump was factually wrong. He just was. Those jobs aren't going to Mexico. But ...

BEGALA: That's breaking news

BERMAN: But at the same time -- but at the same time, we're talking about Michigan here, we're talking about Michigan, which all of a sudden is a state where it's a lot closer, there was new poll came out.

BEGALA: Poll tonight, was 3 point race here.

BERMAN: Margin of error race in Michigan. Michigan is a place that could be susceptible to the types of arguments that Donald Trump has been making about manufacturing jobs leaving the country. Which over time they have.

BEGALA: Yes. And in part because of Trump is what Democrats have to put out. There's a terrific ad. I don't -- it's not my PAC but somebody said it might be Hillary's campaign which shows Trump himself on the David Letterman show hocking his suits, and shirts and ties and Letterman involve people becomes the fact checker and asks him where are the ties made. Bangladesh, the shirts are Bangladesh, the ties are made in China, the suits in Mexico.

And it is not true everybody exports -- but by the way this suit, this fine new suit you were complimenting me on this morning, made in Chicago by Union Tailors, it's American made. You can -- still lots of people, all Brooks Brothers stuff is made in America. He could do it.

So that's a huge vulnerability for him. Any time you can puncture a person's argument by pointing to hypocrisy, it's a very good thing. But Chris makes good point too that there'd be no auto jobs in America if it weren't for Barack Obama and that bailout. Which Trump opposed.


HAM: I don't think ...


HAM: ... because it wasn't just Obama.

BERMAN: But Scottie ...


BERMAN: You did hear the Ford CEO there clear that up. So what Donald Trump has been saying about the jobs going to Mexico, that is wrong? Yes.

NELL HUGHES: Yes. For today it's wrong. Because obviously he gave a set promises word. Let's talk about this in few weeks, a few months, and a few years, because I think that is why Mr. Trump's message is resonating, because they heard that before from CEOs like this and those jobs are shipped off.

Kind of like Carrier plant losing 1,400 workers at the Carrier plant, shutting down in Indiana, moving to Mexico. That's why I think Mr. Trump's message is resonating because they don't trust these slick high wielding union control CEOs telling them these things today when they know tomorrow they might be out of a job. There is no trust.

QUINN: I would think if you'd ask the UAW people, I know well they will love to control the Ford CEO. But they would admit they do not and he would admit that is not true. But again, I appreciate that Mr. Trump is now standing up for keeping jobs in America. But at a critical point where the president needed support to put a plan in place with taxpayer money that would bail out the auto industry that was critical and time sensitive, Mr. Trump wasn't there for him and has opposed that plan. So today ... BEGALA: Only Mike Pence oppose as well. Mike voted -- Congressman Pence voted as well.

HUGHES: Yes, fine -- that's fine, that's great.

QUINN: Today we wants to be the champion of auto workers. But when he actually had a moment where his voice as a CEO and business leader could have been critically helpful, he chose not to. So your words at any moment are not necessarily more relevant than your historic actions.

HAM: But anything (ph) runs into the same problem she always has but just -- but she's not necessarily a credible voice on this, but she has these are very close ties with corporate organizations and that's why, for instance, Bernie came up and snuck up on her in Michigan in that primary, because that's a place where that message works and Trump has a bit of that that can appeal to the civil (ph). I think that's the problem she's facing, is that in those places where that message works she remains vulnerable.

BERMAN: Right now, we are looking at the screen, right now Representative Sanchez introducing Hillary Clinton. So we're just minutes away from Hillary Clinton's speech there in front of the National Hispanic Caucus Institute in Washington D.C. We will bring you there as to begin.

Mary Katharine, you brought up an interesting name just then. You said Bernie Sanders. I happen to see that Bernie Sanders doing a round of interviews tomorrow morning for Hillary Clinton. I happen to see that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are going Ohio to rally young people in support of Hillary Clinton.

QUINN: Have a number of events scheduled.

BERMAN: Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, you know, they're looking incredible either spring chickens. So it is there is a bit of irony there that they are going to Ohio to rally young voters, but this does Hillary Clinton getting a speech ...

QUINN: They are young at heart John.

BERMAN: They are.

QUINN: Young at heart.

BERMAN: Each about millenials Hillary Clinton is on Monday. Does this indicate the Clinton campaign has work to do among younger voters?

[20:44:56] QUINN: Look, this an election that isn't over until Election Day. So the Hillary campaign as any campaign would is going to fight till the end and focus on all constituencies but particularly on key ones, which is the youth vote. I think Secretary Clinton has said since day one after the primary was over she always knew this was a community in which she had work to do. And we're doing it. And we're so grateful to have the support of people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. You don't see nearly as many -- he had more of Donald Trump's opponents out there stumping in the same by away.

BERMAN: Ryan Lizza, you know, deficit and I spin on a foot Hillary Clinton is not doing as well with millennials as President Obama did for instance that she did better.

LIZZA: Yeah, and look I'm not a millennial but when I hear a politician who's, you know, 69 right now, 68, saying I'm going to be giving my speech to millennials on Monday. To me it just kind of misses the mark a little bit.

HUGHES: Just use a Snapchat.

LIZZA: You know, first of all millennials are being complicated demographic that are, you know, idealogically diverse, I mean that no there's some issues in common. But it just seems to me like a little too telegraphed and like maybe a little bit of tone deaf for that group. You do want do is just go talk about issues that you might appeal to them but not necessarily in telegraph, but now is my speech to the young audience.

MCENANY: I say, here's where a message fall a flat. I'm a millennial, I have a student loan debt. I'm in the same -- I get the ...


MCENANY: I have student loan debt and I look at the candidate who took $2 million in speaking fees from my student loan debt, went to the candidate for personal enrichment.

LIZZA: What the?

MCENANY: That is why Barack Obama won voters under 45 and soar in Ohio like a double digits.

BERMAN: Kayleigh?

MCENANY: But now it is tied in Ohio among this ...

BERMAN: Kayleigh as a millennial what's ...


BERMAN: What's Donald Trump's plan.

MCENANY: Well the number one job -- or the number one plan I can tell you this is to lift wages among these young voters.

BERMAN: OK, we're talking about just a second. I think Hillary Clinton ...

(CROSSTALK) BERMAN: Hillary Clinton is walking up on the stage right now. We'll talk about millennials, talk about all things as soon as she's done speaking. Let's listen in to the secretary.


It is so great to be back here with so many friends and to see so many young people here, because that fits the theme this year: educate, engage, vote. And I can't think of better marching orders for the next 54 days. And anyone who just heard the congresswoman knows we cannot be on the sidelines. This is the most consequential election in our lifetimes. I want to recognize the Institute for all you do to inspire the next generation of Latino leaders. Last year, I had the chance to spend time with some of the CHCI interns and fellows. It really was like seeing the future of America in one room. I can't wait to see everything that they achieve. And I can't wait, if I'm fortunate enough to be president, to put some of them to work!

And I want to thank all my friends in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. You fight every single day to lift up the Latino community, when the cameras are rolling and when the cameras are off, at home in your districts and here in Washington. And no one understands better than you the pivotal moment we're at right now, not just for Latinos but for our country.

My friends in the caucus have traveled to every battleground state, registered voters. You've stayed focused no matter what kind of outlandish and offensive comments we have heard from my opponent and his supporters. By the way, I personally think a taco truck on every corner sounds absolutely delicious.

Now, here's a confession, running for president is never easy, but it shouldn't be, right? But tonight I have the ultimate challenge, speaking after President Obama. He's always a tough act to follow, in more ways than one.

[20:50:11] I, for one, don't think the President gets the credit he deserves for rescuing our economy from another Great Depression. Think of what we've achieved these last eight years. American businesses have created 15 million new jobs since the recession. Twenty million Americans have health coverage, and no one has seen a bigger drop in uninsured rates under the Affordable Care Act than Latino-Americans. We got more good news this week. A report came out showing that poverty is going down, and incomes for American families are going up, and Latino families have seen the biggest increase of all.

Now, that doesn't mean we rest on our laurels by any stretch. Our work is far from finished. But I am more confident than ever that our best days are still ahead of us. I believe with all my heart that the American Dream is alive and it's big enough for everyone to share its promise. That doesn't mean that lots of people are still not hurting, because I know they are. And when you hear a presidential candidate spewing bigotry and hate, it's easy to get discouraged. But we're here because we know this election is a choice between not just two people but two very different visions for our America's future.

Either we're going to make our economy work for everyone, or just those at the top. Either we're going to fear our differences, or embrace and celebrate our diversity. Either we're going to pit Americans against each other and deepen the divides, or we're going to be stronger together.