Return to Transcripts main page
NEW DAY SATURDAY
One Person Shot During Anti-Trump Protest; Trump: We'll Keep Parts Of Obamacare; Trump Faces Pushback Ahead Of Staff Picks; Future Of U.S.-Russia Ties During Trump Presidency; Trump's Presidency Poses Conflict Of Interest Issues; Clinton: "These Have Been Very, Very Tough Days"; Team USA Vs. Mexico In World Cup Qualifier. Aired 6-7a ET
Aired November 12, 2016 - 06:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[06:00:10] DONALD TRUMP, U.S. PRESIDENT ELECT: We have to repeal Obamacare. And it can be replaced with something much better for everybody.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Trump telling "The Wall Street Journal," he's open to preserving portions of Obamacare.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a tough time for our country. I think we've seen how people have been reacting to the event.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If there's any healing in this country, it's going to have to start with Donald Trump walking back a lot what he said during the campaign.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think the tone is something that we saw change on election night. He's now the president of all the people.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Well, good morning on a Saturday morning. It's early. Glad you're up already. I'm Christi Paul.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to be with you. We are starting with the breaking news this morning, outrage terms violence.
PAUL: Right now, police are searching for a gunman after one person was shot during what we're looking at here, an anti-Trump protest movement.
BLACKWELL: Here's what we know, the suspect is still out there somewhere. The shooting happened after a confrontation with one of the demonstrators.
BLACKWELL: Police say the gunman ran off after firing several shots.
PAUL: Now at this hour, demonstrations are still going on in some places, such as Los Angeles. Overnight angry crowds boarded the streets across U.S. cities even forcing highways to a standstill in some.
BLACKWELL: In Miami, protesters had this message for the president- elect.
PAUL: Here's what it looks like in Georgia. Take a look here. This is near the state capitol. Two protesters there lighting fire to the American flag.
BLACKWELL: Let's go to Dallas now, a Donald Trump pinata was dragged through the streets. And back to Los Angeles, police made an arrest. It's still unclear how many people were taken into custody in addition to this man you see on the streets.
PAUL: All of this happening as Donald Trump supporters wait for the new president-elect to turn some promises into policy.
BLACKWELL: Trump now appearing to be open to, let's call it, compromise to one of his signature rallying cries that repeal of Obamacare. Here CNN's Sara Murray.
SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: Good morning, Christi and Victory. While repealing Obamacare was a rallying cry for Donald Trump on the campaign trail occasionally he would suggest that maybe he would let some provisions stand. But now he seems to be going even further and those words carry a lot more weight now that he's the president-elect.
MURRAY (voice-over): After his full-throated campaign calls to repeal President Obama's signature health care law --
TRUMP: Real change begins with immediately repealing and replacing Obamacare.
MURRAY: Now it appears Donald Trump maybe willing to strike a deal. Trump telling "The Wall Street Journal" that after meeting with the president on Thursday --
TRUMP: Well, thank you very much, President Obama.
MURRAY: -- he's open to preserving portions of Obamacare like the provision that prevents insurers from denying coverage because of pre- existing conditions and the provision that allows children to remain on their parents' health insurance policies until they are 26.
Now the president-elect tells "The Wall Street Journal" he wants to move quickly on health care once he takes office and either Obamacare will be amended or repealed and replaced.
The latest look at Trump's priorities comes as he turns to his VP Mike Pence to take the lead on transition planning, a role previously held by New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. As Trump hunkered down in New York to map out a Trump White House, palace intrigue in Washington was running wild.
TRUMP: I'll tell you, Reince is really a star. He's the hardest working guy ---
MURRAY: Among the leading candidates for chief of staff, Reince Priebus, the Republican National Committee chairman who has strong ties to Capitol Hill. And buoyed Trump's successful presidential bid with the GOP's data and ground operation.
REINCE PRIEBUS, CHAIRMAN, REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE: Ladies and Gentlemen, the next president of the United States, Donald Trump.
MURRAY: But filling the role is already sparking friction among Trump's team. Priebus is the favorite option amongst some in Trump's inner circle, but his Washington insider status is being wade against a more unorthodox option, Steve Bannon.
He served as the Trump campaign CEO briefly pulling back from his role as the head of right-wing website, Breitbart. But his tenure at Breitbart would surely make him a contentious pick and provide fodder for liberals already decrying a Trump presidency.
Outgoing Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid declared, "The election of Donald Trump has emboldened the forces of hate and bigotry in America."
MURRAY: Now in light of how divided the country is, in light of these protests, one other interesting thing that came up in that "Wall Street Journal" interview was a question to Donald Trump about whether he may have ever taken his campaign rhetoric too far.
[06:05:10]He answered it by saying, no, I won. Back to you, guys.
BLACKWELL: All right, Sara, thanks so much. In an interview set to air tomorrow on "60 Minutes," Trump outlined the parts of the Obamacare law that he would be willing to keep.
PAUL: Yes, the president-elect also opening up about the concession calls that he received from Hillary Clinton. As well as what Bill Clinton told him he says about Trump's unprecedented presidential run. Here's a preview.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let me ask you about Obamacare, which you say you're going to repeal and replace. When you replace it, are you going to make sure that people with preconditions are still covered?
TRUMP: Yes, because it happens to be one of the strongest assets.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're going to keep that.
TRUMP: Also with children living with their parents for an extended period we're going to very much keep that. Adds cost but it's very much something we're going to try and keep.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And there's going to be a period if you repeal it and before you replace when millions of people could lose --
TRUMP: We're going to do it simultaneously. It will be just fine. It's what I do. I do this stuff. We'll repeal it and replace it. We're not going to have like a two-day period or a two-year period where there's nothing. It will be repealed and replaced, and we'll know, and it will be great health care for much less money.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hillary called you. Tell us about that phone call.
TRUMP: So, Hillary called and it was a lovely call and it was a tough call for her. I can imagine. Tougher for her than it would have been for me and for me it would have been very difficult. She couldn't have been nicer.
She just said, Congratulations, Donald. Well done. And I said, I want to thank you very much, you were a great competitor. She's very strong and very smart.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What about Bill Clinton, did you talk to him?
TRUMP: He did. He called the next day.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Really, what did he say?
TRUMP: Actually called last night. He couldn't have been more gracious. He said it was an amazing run. One of the most amazing he's ever seen.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He said that.
TRUMP: He was very, very -- really, very nice.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know, you said is that you might call President Obama for advice. Would you think of calling President Clinton for advice?
TRUMP: Well, he's a very talented guy, both of them. I mean, this is a very talented family. Certainly -- I would certainly think about that.
PAUL: Well, Errol Louis, CNN political commentator, and Eugene Scott, CNN politics reporter, both with us now. Gentlemen, thank you for getting up early yet again.
Errol, I want to start with you. So we hear Trump's tough talk obviously on everything from Obamacare to building this wall along the border with Mexico. That is what obviously propelled him to the presidency.
This interview, though, shows a bit more wiggle room for him. What is your immediate thought as you hear from him?
ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, when it comes to repealing and replacing Obamacare, it had to be understood to be a process all along. It's not surprising to hear he wants to maybe modify the expectations of people who thought it was going to simply be struck down.
It doesn't really work that way. There are elements of it that are really quite popular that even many of the opponents of the law don't think were all that bad.
So you've got the primary one that he refers to is that the notion that pre-existing conditions should not be a condition for being barred from insurance.
There's another one in which you can't be -- and this is part of the law -- that you can't be barred from coverage simply because of your gender. There are 18 million people that are receiving insurance that didn't otherwise have it because of Obamacare.
That's 18 million reasons that Congress will have to be a little bit careful about how they change, repeal or replace this. And Donald Trump, you know, is now a politician and he's got sort of the same logic that's going to be guiding him as well.
PAUL: Eugene, do you get the sense that Donald Trump is kind of learning through the process as well? Since we're seeing him walk back from his campaign promises so to speak, a little bit here?
EUGENE SCOTT, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: Absolutely. And I think one thing that he is learning is that he had more than the working class white base to help him get to office. He won significant percentages of college-educated white men as well as white women.
And some of them are more mainstream in their conservatism than his base is and want something less radical that some of the ideas that he proposed.
So for example, the suggestion that kids under 25 get to remain on Obamacare is something that they are going to continue. So not the complete repeal and not a complete disaster as he has said on the campaign, it seems like.
PAUL: All right. So let's talk about Mike Pence, he has taken over the transition team as we know from Chris Christie.
[06:10:04]Let's listen to how Trump senior advisor, Jack Kingston, characterized this to CNN's Wolf Blitzer last night.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JACK KINGSTON, TRUMP CAMPAIGN SENIOR ADVISER: Mike Pence not only knows the capitol and he knows the players in the House and the Senate, he knows how the committee system works, but he also knows all the governors. So that really brings a unique talent to the picture.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PAUL: So Errol, obviously, Donald Trump and Mike Pence have two very vastly different experiences coming into this office. Do you foresee, a more active, more vocal, more prominent, more bold VP than we've seen in the past?
LOUIS: Well, sure. In fact, there was a period around the time that Mike Pence was picked for the presidential ticket that Trump himself suggested that he might turn over the day-to-day operations of the federal government to whoever the vice president would be.
And so, perhaps we're starting to see the beginnings of that. There are some on Capitol Hill, who are already speculating that Pence might be the most powerful vice president in history.
And that says a lot coming after the era of Dick Cheney when he in effect ran legislative affairs in much of the federal government in the George Bush administration.
PAUL: And, Eugene, I want to get real quickly of you, how prevalent a role do you think Donald Trump's children are going to play in this administration?
SCOTT: Well, as you know, they're already on the transition executive team, which is not that big of a surprise considering how prominent their role was in the actual campaign.
But on Friday, the Trump organization say that they are vetting business structures and rules that will allow them to completely take over the Trump Organization's business portfolio.
So while some of them maybe more prevalent such as Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, I really do think that for the most part they believe will be focused on continuing to expand the Trump brand, which has taken quite a hit in this election cycle.
PAUL: Stay in the business aspect of it. All right, Errol Louis, Eugene Scott, always good to have both of your insights. Thanks for being here.
As Donald Trump heads to the White House, we talk about his kids poised to take over that business empire. We'll have a deeper discussion on that in just a minute.
BLACKWELL: Also ahead on NEW DAY, Hillary Clinton in her first remarks since her concession speech. You're going to hear the message she gave to some of her supporters.
PAUL: Breaking news want to share with you right now, a deadly attack on a U.S. air base in Afghanistan. Four people were killed. Dozens others injured when an explosive device was detonated at Bagram Air Base. U.S. officials have confirmed it was an enemy device. The Taliban has claimed responsibility for the attack. They did so via tweet.
BLACKWELL: Well, as Donald Trump prepares to move into the White House, he will not only have to figure out who will make up his cabinet, but also what to do about all of his business ventures. The president-elect has a stake in more than 500 companies, more than anyone else ever elected to presidency. More than half of Trump's businesses bear his name.
The president-elect has indicated he plans to turn control over his vast business empire to three of his children but is that enough.
Let's bring back CNN politics reporter, Eugene Scott, and CNN political commentator, Errol Louis. I want to pick up, Eugene, where you left off. Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, who are said to be now going to control the business interest with this executive team.
They are also part of the transition team and the obvious difficulty that that presents even before President-elect Trump takes office.
SCOTT: Yes, I mean, I think it's worth noting that federal law does not prevent -- does not say that these conflicts of interests exist between a president and his business properties.
But despite that the Trump campaign has said that they do want to follow all irregularities and things that require them to be as transparent as possible.
And therefore, vet possible structures that will allow the children to take over the business dealings that Donald Trump has been ahead of.
BLACKWELL: So Errol, I went back and read this Anti-Nepotism Act back in 1967, enacted in part after JFK's brother was attorney general. And it says that relatives cannot work in that agency. But there's the issue of Jared Kushner, the president-elect's son-in-law, who Denis McDonough took a walk around the White House grounds, the chief of staff, he took Jared Kushner along. Does he fall under that and could we see potentially his role in the Trump White House?
LOUIS: Yes, he absolutely does fall under that. Five U.S.3110 is the statute you're talking about. They define relatives, they have a whole list of, you know, your mother, son, brother and it includes son-in-law.
So Jared Kushner is covered by that that means he cannot take a dollar from the federal government. What he will be able to do, however, act as an adviser, an unpaid informal non-staff member adviser to the president.
That seems to be the role that he's already been playing in the campaign. So the (inaudible) of what jobs he holds I think are less important than the influence that he will have.
As I get back to what Eugene was talking about, there are no laws that prohibit the business interests from being out there and known. There's some talk of a possible quote/unquote "blind trust" but nothing about the Trump Organization lends itself to that.
A true blind trust is when the president-elect, the president doesn't know what investments he holds. The blind trust is sort of buying stocks and selling stocks and handling business interest that are unknown to the principal.
That's simply not possible since Trump's name is blast over most of the businesses that he controls. This is a new era. This is going to be really quite different from anything we've seen before.
BLACKWELL: Eugene, let me ask you about some reporting from "The New York Times," they spoke with a few Trump advisers about what will be his, potentially his living situation. If we have the full screen, let's put it up.
If not, let me read it to you, "Mr. Trump who was shocked when he won the election might spend most of the week in Washington, much like members of Congress and return to Trump Tower or his golf course in New Jersey or Mar-A-Lago estate in Palm Beach on the weekend.
First, how realistic is that? And if he were to go back to Trump Towers where his business empire is headquartered that would obviously present a conflict of interest or at least the possibility of one?
SCOTT: I think that's just speculation at this point. I think Donald Trump realizes or will soon realize that this job entails a lot of working on the weekends and a lot of that actually won't be either be in D.C. or New York. It will be out in America and internationally as well.
All of this reminds of how when he was pitching the Trump Hotel in D.C., he made it very clear that he was going to get to D.C. by any means necessary. The reality is he'll spend probably weigh less time in Trump Tower than he thought he would before.
BLACKWELL: Quickly, Errol, any chance that we will see Trump living in the White House part time and then going home to one of these properties on the weekends?
LOUIS: I think it's more likely than not. He will spend as much time in the White House as his predecessors. The reality is if you look back, the Obamas thought they were going to be running back home to Chicago once in a while.
The level of security concerns, military concerns, the inconvenience to everybody just to move the family back and forth. It's really just much easier to just stay in a place that's completely safe and secure and at the center of all American power, and that's the White House.
BLACKWELL: All right, Errol Louis, Eugene Scott, thank you both -- Christie. PAUL: You know, Bernie Sanders says he is not necessarily surprised that Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, but he does have a message for all Democrats as the party recovers from the defeat on Tuesday. We'll talk about that. Stay close.
BLACKWELL: Hillary Clinton is urging her supporters to get back out there and keep fighting after her Election Day defeat. As she spoke with volunteers in a conference call yesterday and admitted it's been a tough few days. But she says it's more important now than ever that they continue to support the causes they believe in.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[06:25:02]HILLARY CLINTON (D), FORMER 2016 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE (via telephone): We left it all on the field. Every single one of you, and the relationship you formed the connections you made, I hope will prove to be of lasting significance to you and I think will make a difference for years to come. Your work mattered and I believe it still matters. Look, I'm not going to sugar coat it. These have been very, very tough days."
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLACKWELL: As for the Clinton campaign, some are now casting the blame for her defeat on FBI Director James Comey and calls the supporter's campaign chair, John Podesta, says, "Comey's announcement on that e-mail investigation just days before the election cost Clinton the White House."
PAUL: Meanwhile, Senator Bernie Sanders said it's time for the Democratic Party to make some major changes. In an op-ed in the "New York Times," Senator Sanders writes this, "I am saddened but not surprised by the outcome. It is no shock to me that millions of people who voted for Mr. Trump did so because they are sick and tired of the economic, political, and media status quo."
Now Senator Sanders says he is working on a series of reforms for the Democratic Party and his wife says he's more focused on bringing the country together than a future presidential run.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Yes or no, would you be open to, Senator Sanders, running again for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020?
JANE SANDERS, WIFE OF SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS: See, that's exactly the wrong question, Wolf. Nobody cares except the political pundits. He is not -- he's concerned about 2017. He's concerned about our Muslim population in feeling great fear right now.
We're hoping that President-elect Trump will give them a reason to not feel that anymore. He's concerned about the fact that people are hurting. That the water systems in Flint are still not repaired. Those are the things he's focusing on. And what happens in 2020 will happen in 2020. We'll talk to you in 2019. How's that?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PAUL: And both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders say they're willing to work with Donald Trump once he does take office.
BLACKWELL: Plus, one writer says that it's time for everyone to calm down. His message to the country after Donald Trump's Election Day victory.
[06:30:59] PAUL: Welcome to Saturday. I've been waiting for the weekend to having you, I'm Christi Paul.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell.
PAUL: All right. Police, want to let you know, are searching right now for a gunman in Portland after somebody was shot during an anti- Trump protest. You're looking at that protest here.
BLACKWELL: Well, police say the shooter ran off after firing several shots there and the victim was taken to a hospital treated for what we've been told are non life-threatening injuries.
PAUL: The anger is boiling over in other cities across the country as well. Protesters spilling out into the street and cities like Los Angeles, Miami, Atlanta.
BLACKWELL: Meanwhile, as the President-elect Donald Trump transitions to power. He now says that he's open to compromise on repealing Obamacare. Here is what he told "60 Minutes."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENT-ELECT: We're going to do it simultaneously. It will be just fine. That's what I do. I do a good job. You know, I mean, I know how to do the stuff. We're going to repeal it and then replace it. And we're not going to have like a two-day period and we're not going to have a two-year period where there's nothing. It will be repealed and replaced and we'll know. And it'll be great healthcare for much less money.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PAUL: Donald Trump also weighing his options for the White House staff. One of the top jobs to fill, obviously, is the chief of staff. And among the names being floated, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus.
BLACKWELL: Meanwhile, the global community is reacting to Trump's historic win. The Chinese President says that he offered his congratulations to the President-elect.
PAUL: I think he said he did it by phone.
BLACKWELL: Yes. PAUL: The thing is Trump tell "The Wall Street Journal" he has not
heard yet from the leader. President-elect Trump, of course, rallied against China and accused them with stealing jobs throughout the campaign but still some uncertainty as to whether that call was actually made.
BLACKWELL: Yes, we'll look into that. And now let's just turn to Russia, because Russia says that if Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are ready to mend fences it would improve relations between the U.S. and Russia.
Let's listen to what Russia's presidential spokesman told Christiane Amanpour.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DMITRY PESKOV, RUSSIAN PRESIDENTIAL SPOKESMAN: If our two leaders, I mean, the current Russia's leader, President Putin, and President- elect Trump are wise enough to have a political will to talk to each other and to try to solve problems not by confronting each other, not by using, let's say, language of sanctions or other illogic things hurting both sides, then we'll really have a chance to at least to talk and to try to solve the problems being constructed, then we'll have a hope at least because what we have currently is a very lousy relationship.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLACKWELL: CNN Senior International Correspondent Clarissa Ward takes a detailed look at the future of U.S.-Russia ties.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Now that the celebrations are over, the hard work of repairing U.S.-Russian relations begins. President Putin acknowledged the challenges even as he congratulated President-elect Trump.
VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIA PRESIDENT: We've heard his electoral slogans when he was still a candidate. He spoke about resuming and restoring relations with Russia. We understand that the way to that will be difficult taking into account the current state of degradation of relations between Russia and the United States.
WARD: Tensions between the two countries have sky rocketed in recent years with profound disagreements over Russia's aggression in Ukraine and Syria, NATO expansion, and most recently alleged Russian hacking of Democratic Party emails. Trump has been critical of NATO and has indicated he may accept Russia's annexation of Crimea from Ukraine, music to Russia's ears.
TRUMP: But you know the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were.
WARD: He has also refused to finger Russia for the e-mail hacks, has suggested working with them in Syria in the fight against ISIS and has spoken positively about President Putin.
The big question here in Russia is whether U.S. sanctions, which have crippled the economy, will be dropped. Still, Russian Senator Andrei Klimov says there is much more optimism now than there was just a few days ago.
[06:35:08] Do you think that this new Trump era can be a better relationship for Russia?
ANDREI KLIMOV, RUSSIAN SENATOR: He declared already that he's ready for such kind of future. Who knows what's happening in reality. But I do hope that we have a chance now.
WARD: People we spoke to seem to agree.
Why do you think it'll be good?
I think he will be good, this man tells us, because he's been a businessman a long time and had a lot of success. The relationship between the U.S. and Russia depends on this president. Of course, it's very important. Everybody was watching these elections, but time will tell, as they say. And people here will be watching his first moves closely.
Clarissa Ward, CNN, Moscow.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PAUL: Jill Dougherty with us now, our Global Fellow for Woodrow Wilson Center and former CNN Moscow Bureau Chief.
Jill, thank you so much. Help us understand as people are watching this, why leaders in Russia are celebrating so strongly Trump's election victory? Is it really that they we're that anti-Hillary or is there something else going on here?
JILL DOUGHERTY, GLOBAL FELLOW FOR WOODROW WILSON CENTER: Hillary was a factor. But I think what you're looking at right now is the Russian, you know, the Russian people, the Russian government have looked at what Mr. Trump has said. And these are the things that coincide with the views of Russia. I mean, you just heard that NATO. That certainly something that Russia would love to hear, that NATO is obsolete, that we don't really have to defend the allies with NATO.
But, when it -- when the rubber hits the road, I think you'd have to say that in the Kremlin, people who really are experienced know that in U.S. politics, things are said in campaigns that may never materialize. And also, I'd often see you really have a feeling of any coherent policy coming out. We don't know -- excuse me, who will be on Trump's team.
So, it's kind of at this point, I guess you'd say, a pig in a poke, you know, you don't know what you're getting. So they're careful. But if you talk or you listen to Peskov, this spokesperson who was just on with Christiane, the first thing he said to improve was cut back on NATO. So that's what they want. They want it but they want it in their terms.
PAUL: Can they make any headway, do you think? Can Donald Trump's administration made any headway without touching NATO at the moment or is that going to be the key? Because there obviously so many other things to discuss.
DOUGHERTY: Yeah, you could certainly start talking more. I mean, right now the sides behind the scenes, you know, government to government really aren't talking. And that is a major problem.
Now, I think you could say it's dangerous. So talking first and then figuring out a coherent policy which is really complicated but very, very necessary. Other things, you know, Syria, what we do in Syria, will have to be decided. What happens in Ukraine, all of these. But I think the United States has to be very straight ahead and understand that President Putin is looking out for Russia. President Putin is going to protect Russia's interests and try to get as much leverage as he can. So Mr. Trump -- President Trump will have to be very smart in response.
PAUL: Because he has to protect the U.S. of course. So when we talk -- we we're watching the celebration amongst at the administration there in Russia when Donald Trump won and we heard from a couple of people there on the street, Clarissa talked to, obviously, they are enamored with President-elect Trump's business acumen. But collectively, is there a gauge of how the people of Russia really feel about the Trump leadership?
DOUGHERTY: Well, I think, you know, don't forget, they're watching Russian media. And the Russian media, for months and months, have been praising Mr. Trump, have been really excoriating Hillary Clinton. I mean, some of the stuff has been really pretty scarring and pretty bad. So they're led, at this point, to the conclusion that he really is great, that he doesn't want to attack Russia, that he, you know, couldn't improve the relationship. That's a little fine in a sense. I mean, I think everybody wants to improve the relationship but it's how you do it and what policies and what you actually do.
President Putin is actually a pretty smart guy. And he understands, again, that in campaigns, a lot is said. And he understands, I think, that Donald Trump's strong suit is not foreign policy. So he's saying, sounds good, let's have a better relationship but let's see the details.
PAUL: All right. Jill Dougherty, always appreciate your insight. Thank you so much.
[06:40:04] BLACKWELL: All right, here's a connections to the outcome of the election maybe you have not considered. Politics on the pitch, this deep divide between President-elect Trump and Mexico in a friendly game to help bridge that divide.
BLACKWELL: 43 minutes after the hour now. President-elect Donald Trump made a big campaign promise to build a wall along the Mexican border and to make Mexico pay for it. Well now, his advisers are suggesting, he can do it by executive order based on existing law. But even so, he would still face a lot of hurdles including asking Congress for money if Mexico refuses to foot the bill.
Well, President-elect Trump would also likely face a myriad of lawsuits related to the wall cutting through a private and some private land. And Trump will lead a divided nation, we know that, but sports always has the potential of bringing people together.
PAUL: Last night, the U.S. men's soccer team hosted Mexico in a World Cup qualifier, Coy Wire has report.
I mean, this is a huge rivalry. We talked about bringing them together but this is rivalry.
COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: One of the most heated international soccer rivalries for sure and in the past in this matched up, there had been head butts, kicks to the groin, coaches even slapping players in the face and going into this one players acknowledge that there was an added layer of tension being that we are going into last nights game in Columbus, Ohio coming just days after the election and months of divisive political rhetoric.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKERS: USA. USA. USA.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[06:44:59] WIRE: But fans heeded the request of players to allow this moment to bring people together, respecting one another just as the players themselves would do on the pitch. Our Martin Savidge was there and caught up with some of the fans.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As you see, people are just so happy. Tomorrow then, we worry about paying the rent, of buying groceries.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, we're all here to support the USA. It's soccer. It's bringing the country together. That's what we're here to do.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WIRE: Now, check this powerful display of unity before the game. Both teams posing with one another on the pitch. Then it was game time. Mexico would go up 1-zip early but then USA's Bobby Wood powering through the finish like a bowling ball knocking down some pins. He ties up the match with that incredible goal. And looks like we're going for a tie.
What then barely a minute left on the clock and Mexico's Rafa Marquez, watch it. He heads the winner, finds the back of the net. He would go on to win 2 to 1. And that's team USA's first home loss in a World Cup qualifier in some 15 years. There're still a lot of games to be played before the 2018 World Cup draws. Determined team USA has nine matches left so a lot of opportunities to rack up enough points and be able to qualify for the World Cup.
PAUL: All right.
WIRE: All right.
PAUL: Thank you so much, Coy.
WIRE: You're welcome.
PAUL: Appreciate it.
BLACKWELL: All right, everybody calm down. That's the advice from a writer after Trump's election day victory. He's here with us sort of explain why a Trump presidency will be smoother than some Democrats expect.
BLACKWELL: Oprah Winfrey says she is optimistic about a Donald Trump presidency even if she didn't vote for him. And she told "Entertainment Tonight" she was encouraged by the president-elect's meeting with President Obama. You remember that happened in the Oval Office.
[06:50:05] Oprah was a big supporter of Hillary Clinton during the campaign but after hearing the President-elect's comments with the President, she is reassured about the future. She says it's time for everyone to calm down and take a deep breath.
PAUL: You know, Oprah isn't the only one calling for some calm here, our next guess said it is time for liberals to "chill out." Here to discuss, Tim Stanley, historian and columnists for the "Daily Telegraph."
Tim, thank you so much for being with us. I wanted to ask you about that. She, Oprah there was talking about what she saw from Donald Trump when he was with President Obama. But even in Hilary Clinton's concession speech, in Obama speech after he was elected, there was so much urging for everyone to keep open minds , to accept Donald Trump, in a sense see what is going to happen. How much did those words, because we've been talking so much about how much words matter. How much did those two speeches from those two people help move the Democratic Party along?
TIM STANLEY, DAILY TELEGRAPH COLUMNIST: We seen the best of American democracy in politics in the last 48 hours, which is ironic because it came after a year, perhaps the worst in American politics in democracy. But something happens when an election is over and you move in through a transition period and you see a candidate evolve very quickly form someone who will say anything to win to someone who knows that they have to govern. And that the only way they can do that is by reaching across the isle. Even if they do control Congress they still need to reach out to Democrats and more importantly pulling the country back together.
I was in the ballroom, the night that Trump won and I saw his victory speech and that Trump summation, his character was immediate. It was a well-crafted, cleverly scripted speech. It was calm and temperament in tone. And that's the tone, apart from one tweet, that Donald Trump has kept for the next 48 hours.
And we've already seen that translates into concessions on policy. He's already said in an interview that elements of Obamacare will stay. So, I think we're starting to see the institutional element of the presidency kicking. He's already starting to sound like a president.
BLACKWELL: All right, Tim, let me ask you about a couple of sentences here from your op-ed. Let's put them up. "The unlikeliness of Trump's victory is oddly energizing. It shows anything is possible. If Trump can be president, so could a liberal radical like Bernie Sanders. Next time, the Democrat should go with their gut and nominate a real fighter."
That last sentence sounds alike what we -- a lot what we've heard from the days back in 2008 after John McCain lost to then Senator Obama. But the Republicans then nominated Mitt Romney in 2012 and there were a lot of dissatisfied Republicans then as well, at least, to the days, the most conservative.
You expect the, the Democratic Party will take that advice. So next time, go somewhat a little more, in your word, radical like Bernie Sanders.
STANLEY: I think that it'll be wise to. There's always a risk in politics that you end up fighting the last war and that's what the Republicans did in 2012 with Romney. They tried to re-fight 2008 along with same lines and by the same rules.
I hope the Democrats for that state don't repeat that mistake in 2020 and think that what they should put up is another controlled machine like moderate and to try to reach out the people disaffected with Trump. Instead the lesson of this year, listen to Michael Moore, he's been saying this the last few days, "The man is a prophet, who knew it."
But the lesson from this year is that there is anger out there and that the left would be wise to try not to ignoring it or to appeal to those warm angry because they just appeared and come out to vote, but instead try and co-op some of that anger and to state to people you're angry, we get it, but here's a solutions to a problems which are progressive rather that reactionary. I think that's the narrative the Democrats have got to come up with in the next few years.
PAUL: Tim, we were reading from op-ed in "New York Times" this morning from Bernie Sanders who said, "In the coming days, I'll also provide a series of reforms to reinvigorate the Democratic Party. I believe strongly the party must break loose from its corporate establishment ties and once again become a grass-roots party of working people, the elderly and the poor." How confident are you that, that the progressive in Bernie Sanders camp can merge into the establishment territory with other Democrats and form one party and how pivotal would Bernie Sanders be in that?
STANLEY: As I said in my piece, Trump is energizing not just in the sense of proving it literately, anyone can be president, but also in the sense that it might encourage the Democrats to look again at what that -- their previous strategy and to keep an open mind. I think one thing they learned in the last year or so was that control over the process does not necessarily translate into an electoral win at the end of it.
But sometimes a bit of democracy, a glimmer of authenticity and allowing the base to have a say actually energizes people and gets them out to the polls. And that's the case that Sanders is going to be making. The one issue hanging over Senators Sanders, I hate to be personalist (ph) but he's quite an elderly man now.
[06:55:12] BLACKWELL: Yes.
STANLEY: And will he want to do it again in four years time? I don't know. This process is so exhausting to spend an entire year on the road baking people for money. I'm not sure that I would want to be that at my age, let alone him at his.
BLACKWELL: All right, there.
PAUL: All right, Tim Stanley.
BLACKWELL: Thank you so much for being with us. A great forward looking piece on cnn.com.
Tim, thanks so much.
PAUL: We'll be right back.
PAUL: I want to introduce you to one of this year's top 10 CNN heroes now.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GEORGIE SMITH, CNN TOP 10 HERO OF 2016: My name is Georgie Smith and I started an organization in Los Angeles called "A Sense of Home." And we create homes for foster youth as they age out of the system. So the kids who never got adopted, who haven't got any family to help them with their first sense of permanent living phase. We come in with donated items and with volunteers, completely furnish their home and serve as a family would for any setting up their first time.
You know, they say it takes a village to raise a child. I saw that we as a village weren't doing what we should be doing for these children. And I needed to do something.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wow.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my goodness.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's so pretty.
SMITH: Now, everyone needs home. The likes of (ph) home live inside of all of us. Here's my Angelo. It's so true. And this, by coming to create someone else's home, it's a feeling of more than all of us.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This means the world to me. Thanks, everyone. Thanks.
(END VIDEO CLIP)