Return to Transcripts main page
'Star Wars' Actress Carrie Fisher Dead at 60; Trump Taps Former Bush Aide as Terror Advisor; Security Scare Reignites Battle Paying for Trump Protection; Jerusalem Cancels Vote on Settlement Construction; Historic Tribute at Pearl Harbor. Aired 6-6:30a ET
Aired December 28, 2016 - 06:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Security at Trump Tower now in the spotlight.
[05:58:45] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thomas Bossert is now going to be the chief of homeland security.
JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Trump continuing his Twitter war against President Obama.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We must resist the urge to demonize those who are different.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the administration that was behind the crafting of the Security Council resolution.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) the administration. I said that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They know what they did.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Netanyahu urged them to cancel this vote hours before Secretary of State John Kerry's speech.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The duty, to lay out a way towards a two-state solution.
CARRIE FISHER, ACTOR: I know who you are. From now on...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Remembering Carrie Fisher.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The princess is gone. There will be nobody like her ever again.
FISHER: May the force be with you.
ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, and Alisyn Camerota.
DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, and welcome to your NEW DAY. it is Wednesday, December 28, 6 a.m. in the east. I'm Don Lemon, Poppy Harlow joins me. Chris and Alisyn are off. I can't believe. POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: I know.
LEMON: Carrie Fisher.
HARLOW: This music.
LEMON: I know. And 2016, my goodness.
HARLOW: What a year, what a year.
LEMON: Taking some of our iconic figures. And Poppy, we should say that tributes are pouring in for Carrie Fisher from celebrities and fans around the world. The "Star Wars" actress best known for her iconic role as Princess Leia died four days after suffering a massive heart attack.
HARLOW: She was just 60 years old, truly a star, and she's being remembered this morning as Hollywood royalty. Her legacy, though, transcends that beloved character that she played. She was incredibly witty, an amazingly brilliant writer, candid about her personal struggles and someone who really broke down barriers for those suffering from mental health issues.
Our Paul Vercammen has a look back at her life and legacy.
CARRIE FISHER, ACTRESS: I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash.
VERCAMMEN (voice-over): Carrie Fisher, best known as Princess Leia in "Star Wars," has died. Fisher had a heart attack Friday during the final 15 minutes of a flight from London to Los Angeles. According to TMZ, Fisher was on a ventilator the entire time she was hospitalized, never regaining consciousness.
She's seen here in an audition tape with soon-to-be co-star Harrison Ford.
FISHER: R-2 has been safely delivered to my forces.
VERCAMMEN: Critics pointed to the strong chemistry between Fisher and Ford and with good reason. Fisher recently revealed that she and Ford were off-screen lovers.
ELLEN DEGENERES, TALK SHOW HOST: Forty years, is that right?
FISHER: Forty years. I thought I'd wait.
DEGENERES: OK. So you revealed that you were having an affair with Harrison Ford.
FISHER: I was.
DEGENERES: Well, you say it.
FISHER: Yes, I did.
DEGENERES: All right. So, how did that stay a secret for 40 years?
FISHER: I was good at that, wasn't I?
VERCAMMEN: Fisher was born in Beverly Hills. Mother, actress Debbie Reynolds; father, singer Eddie Fisher.
FISHER: I was primarily brought up by my mother, but I saw my father.
VERCAMMEN: Fisher poked fun at the absurdities of showbiz life and all manner of self-medication, including taking pills to control her emotions.
FISHER: Any mood stabilizer is a weight gainer. So whether you feel better, but then you're fat. So what you gain is a loss. It's just -- it's not a good situation.
VERCAMMEN: Fisher spoke about being bipolar and often turned pain into humor, also writing "Wishful Drinking," and "Shockaholic."
Fisher was briefly married to singer Paul Simon in the 1980s. Years later, she gave birth to a daughter, Billie Catherine, from her relationship with agent Bryan Lourd.
She debuted in the acclaimed film "Shampoo."
FISHER: They're not. I wasn't like my mother.
VERCAMMEN: In between the "Star Wars" movies, Fisher landed a number of meaty roles. In "Soap Dish"...
FISHER: I think we found our waiter.
VERCAMMEN: ... and as Meg Ryan's wise-cracking friend in "When Harry Met Sally."
FISHER: Someone is staring at you in Personal Growth.
VERCAMMEN: But nothing could, would or perhaps should loom larger on screen than Fisher in "Star Wars.."
FISHER: Transported you. It was extraordinary entertainment film making.
LARRY KING, FORMER CNN HOST: Do you like the princess?
FISHER: I have her over sometimes. She's a little bitchy, you know?
VERCAMMEN: Carrie Fisher was 60.
LEMON: Love her candor.
HARLOW: Loved it. A brilliant woman. Broke down a lot of barriers. Especially for women in Hollywood.
LEMON: But you forget, you know, everyone thinks of Princess Leia. As I look back at that, she was such a great character actress. Like, you forget that, you know. I loved her in "Soap Dish" and "When Harry Met Sally" and on. And she had even more roles than that. She was -- not only that, though -- pardon me, she was -- she wrote a lot of. She was a writer. And she was a script doctor.
HARLOW: She -- I had heard made more money doctoring these scripts. I mean, big movies like "Empire Strikes Back," like "Hook," like "Sister Act." And she was this brilliant writer in addition to being this amazing actress.
Let's read some of the statements coming into us. Mark Hamill, who of course, played Luke Skywalker, had this to say: "She played such a crucial role in my professional and personal life, and both would have been far emptier without her. I'm grateful for the laughter, the wisdom and kindness and even the bratty self-indulgent crap my beloved space twin gave me through the years. Thanks, Carrie. I love you, M.H."
LEMON: That's how you know they were close, that he can call her bratty. Because that's what I would call her.
HARLOW: I'd call you bratty.
LEMON: Yes. Always creative. OK, George Lucas also reacting and saying she's extremely smart, a talented actress, writer and comedian with a very colorful personality that everyone loved. In "Star Wars," she was our great and powerful princess. Feisty, wise and full of hope in a role that was more difficult than most people might think.
Obviously, we're going to talk a lot about her, her legacy and what she leaves behind. Her daughter, Billy, also an actress. Coming up more on the show. We're also going to speak with two of her "Star Wars" co-stars, Anthony Daniels, who of course, played C-3PO, and Peter Mayhew, who played -- know for his role, of course, as Chewbacca. Both men live with us in our 8 a.m. hour.
LEMON: I can't wait for that conversation. We need to turn the politics now.
President-elect Donald Trump tapping a former Bush aide as a top counterterrorism advisor, but a security scare at Trump Tower in New York reignited the battle over who will pay to protect the president- elect when he is in the Big Apple.
So let's turn now to CNN senior Washington correspondent Mr. Jeff Zeleny, live at Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach with more.
Good morning, Jeff.
JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Don. As Donald Trump is rounding out his cabinet, now there are only two
positions left to fill, which could come later this week. He's also looking ahead to his presidency, now just 23 days away. And as he does that, he is still turning back to his campaign, taking new aim at President Obama on Twitter, among an extraordinary back and forth with staff members about the cost of security at Trump Tower.
ZELENY (voice-over): Donald Trump is filling a critical West Wing position, tapping Thomas Bossert, a deputy homeland security adviser in George W. Bush's White House, to be his chief adviser on homeland security, counterterrorism and cybersecurity.
THOMAS BOSSERT, TRUMP APPOINTEE, CHIEF ADVISOR ON HOMELAND SECURITY: The government in the United States at a federal level needs to do something to address the threat.
ZELENY: Bossert will work alongside retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, who Trump already picked as national security adviser. Trump aides tell CNN Bossert will be on equal footing with Flynn. His portfolio is primarily international threats.
Bossert's appointment has some establishment Republicans and Trump critics breathing a sigh of relief, because Flynn's appointment stirred controversy. Yet, it's an interesting selection for Trump, who became a sharp critic of the Iraq War after initially supporting it.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES: Look at the war in Iraq and the mess we're in. I would never have handled it that way.
ZELENY: Bossert was a proponent of the Iraq War.
Trump is set to hold more meetings today at his Mar-a-Lago resort.
The Trump Tower in New York was briefly evacuated last night while the president-elect was in Florida. New York police say a suspicious package that turned out to be a bag of toys caused a security scare. The false alarm highlighting a battle over who will pay to protect Trump and his family in New York City, which the mayor estimates to be around $35 million since he was elected.
Trump's incoming White House press secretary Sean Spicer tweeting shortly after the incident, back to work here at Trump Tower after a false alarm. Thanks NYPD.
Eric Philips, a spokesman for New York Mayor Bill de Blasio then tweeting, "No problem. We'll send you the bill."
Trump's social media director Dan Scavino weighing in that "Philips is an embarrassment to the New York mayor's office and the amazing NYPD."
Philips firing back, "That's not very nice, Dan. But how about that bill? Work on it with us?" That wasn't the only attack on Twitter. Trump once again touting his
victory over Clinton while taking a knock at the man he will succeed. "President Obama campaigned hard and personally in the very important swing states and lost. The voters wanted to make America great again."
ZELENY: Trump also taking credit on Twitter for strong economic news. Take a look at this tweet that he sent out last night. He said that the U.S. Consumer Confidence Index is at its highest point in more than 15 years. Thanks, Donald."
Perhaps there wasn't room to also say, "Thanks, Obama," Don and Poppy, because that -- he's inheriting, of course, President Obama's economy.
But it is true that economists are saying, because that Donald Trump is coming into office, consumer confidence is at a record high, at least in the last 15 years -- Don and Poppy.
HARLOW: Jeff Zeleny, thank you so much.
Do you remember the people who said the market was going to tank 20 percent if he got elected?
LEMON: Yes. Yes.
HARLOW: Didn't happen yet.
LEMON: A lot of people said he was probably not going to be president.
HARLOW: Not correct.
LEMON: Not correct, as well.
Hey, let's discuss now with senior political analyst and senior editor at "The Atlantic," Mr. Ron Brownstein and CNN political analyst and Washington bureau chief for "The Daily Beast," Jackie Kucinich.
Good morning to both of you. So let's talk about this war of words that's playing out over Trump Tower. I don't know if it's happening where they are tweeting from. Trump Tower briefly was evacuated. It started with Sean Spicer. He tweeted this thanking the NYPD saying, "Oh, you know, there was a problem at Trump Tower." Thank you, NYPD.
HARLOW: Yes. "Back to work here after a false alarm. Thanks NYPD."
LEMON: "Thanks, NYPD." And then other folks jumping in, including Dan Scavino and Dan Philips and on and on and on. And it all played out on Twitter. This is a bigger problem than most people realize because of the money and maybe we're, you know -- it's showing just how big it is that it is spilling out to social media.
RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: How many times can we use the word "unprecedented." Right? I mean, the amount of time that Donald Trump envisions, seems to envision spending in New York is unprecedented, I think, for a president to be kind of a dual resident to the extent that he seems to have in mind. And then to have the dual residency be right in the middle of one of the busiest commercial streets in the world creates just a unique set of security challenges that are very expensive. And you have, in New York City, you know, in Manhattan a place where he lost 90 percent of the vote. You know, the kind of -- the tension is obvious.
BROWNSTEIN: It's palpable.
LEMON: You know then at the end there, the mayor is a person saying, "Why don't you help us out with this bill?"
[06:10:09] HARLOW: The mayor's asking for $35 million.
LEMON: Thirty-five million dollars. Five hundred thousand dollars a day is nothing to sneeze at. That's costing the city a lot of money.
BROWNSTEIN: That's a lot of money. And so, you know, I think there has to be a discussion, again, because there has not been a situation like this, about how much of that really falls on the city versus the Secret Service and the federal responsibility to protect the president.
HARLOW: And Jackie, we know that Congress will cover about $7 million of that cost in a spending bill. But that leaves you with $28 million to go from what de Blasio is asking for here in New York. I mean, what do you think? Should Trump foot the bill? Should -- will he? Should he help?
JACKIE KUCINICH, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: There's always -- I feel like every -- every time there's a new president, there is a discussion about how much things cost. How much things cost to protect them. Whether they're going on vacation too much. Whether it costs a lot to take all these Secret Service folks on vacation with the president. There is always this discussion.
The bottom line is, you have to protect the president and his family. Whether now -- as Ron said, whether there needs to be a discussion of how much the federal government should end up picking up the bill, maybe they should. Because this situation is unprecedented.
But there's -- there's no way around this. You can't cut corners on something like security with the president of the United States and his family.
HARLOW: Yes. When it comes from the federal government, I know how taxpayers in my home state of Minnesota are going to feel. Our money, federal tax dollars are going into that, as well.
LEMON: Who do you think is going to pay for it? Because that's -- again, that's...
HARLOW: I think New York City will pay for it, and everyone will fight about it.
HARLOW: I think that's what's going to happen.
BROWNSTEIN: The federal government may end up shelling out more than they are now. But yes, New York City is going to have to pay some bills.
HARLOW: All right. Let's move on to some really fascinating news that our Jim Sciutto broke here on the air last night with Senator Lindsey Graham talking about Russia. I mean, what happens with Russia and retaliation, which we know is coming from this...
LEMON: And John McCain, as well.
HARLOW: And John McCain on the hacking. Lindsey Graham essentially saying, you know, 99 percent of us, I think -- I think we have the sound. Let's play it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: There are 100 United States senators. Amy Klobuchar is on this trip with us. She's a Democrat from Minnesota. I would say that 99 of us believe the Russians did this, and we're going to do something about it, along with Senator McCain after this trip's over.
We're going to have the hearings, and we're going to put sanctions together that hit Putin as an individual and his inner circle for interfering in our election. And they're doing it all over the world, not just in the United States.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HARLOW: So, the "Washington Post" this morning, as you guys know, is reporting that the goal here from the Obama administration is not only implement those sanctions and other measures but do them in a way that is very difficult for the next president to walk back.
Ron Brownstein, what would that look like and how bad would it look for the president-elect if one of the first things he does when he comes into office to try to roll back tough measures against Russia?
BROWNSTEIN: Look, I think that is the real -- that is the real defense for any action that Obama takes. I think they are trying to create a kind of facts on the ground that would make it difficult for President Trump, as one of his first actions in office, to come in and roll back sanctions that were imposed on Russia for intervening in an election that the CIA says and the FBI now has done to benefit him. That is not an easy position to be in.
So we don't know what statutory authority they have in mind and how difficult it would be to reverse. Certainly, there are many things that President Obama has done in a second term by executive order that Donald Trump is hoping. But, politically, this is kind of laying a trip wire, especially with what you hear from Lindsey Graham and other Republicans in the Congress, as well.
LEMON: What is interesting to me, Jackie, is that maybe it won't be as smooth sailing as they thought with a Republican majority in Washington. Because they're saying, "Listen."
Donald Trump is saying, "There is no evidence. Where is your evidence that the Russians intervened and the election or influenced the election." And now these senators are saying, you know, "Yes, he did."
KUCINICH: Well, the senators are saying the intelligence community is saying this. All of them. So, that -- Trump is going to run up to a very cold civics reality that there are co-equal branches of government and to run and Democrats and Republicans are on the other side of his argument.
So, does he really want to start a fight with Congress, all of Congress at the get-go? I don't know if he wants to. Maybe he will. But this is something that's very tricky, though, because especially...
I'm sorry. I was just going to say because it's hacking into the -- I mean, it's dealing with elections and dealing with foundational American principles here. So I don't know how he wins this argument, frankly.
KUCINICH: Especially as he tries to get Rex Tillerson, approved by Congress, and his ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
LEMON: Democrats have said this is a bipartisan issue, and now Republicans are -- appear to be saying it's the same thing.
HARLOW: All right. Guys, thank you very much. Stay with us. Much more ahead. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delaying a vote on Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
[06:15:00] This news just in this morning, and it comes as Secretary of State John Kerry gets ready to talk Mideast peace ahead. A live report ahead.
HARLOW: The city of Jerusalem this morning canceling a vote today, a vote that would have approved the construction of hundreds of homes in this settlement region as the battle over settlements intensifies.
This delay comes as Secretary of State John Kerry gets set to deliver a big speech laying out the Obama administration's vision for peace in the Middle East. CNN's Oren Liebermann is live for us in Jerusalem with the latest.
It's interesting, because it seems like this is sort of -- this is sort of a nod to the Obama administration and to Kerry, sort of in deference, saying, "OK, give your speech. We won't do a defiant- appearing vote the same day." Is that how you read it? OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think there are two
different perspectives here. One from the city of Jerusalem. We spoke with a city council member a short time ago, who said for Jerusalem, building his municipal need, a growing city needs to build. And they'll build wherever they feel they need to. But the city council member also said they don't want to wade into political controversy here by voting on it hours before Kerry's speech.
So, they'll cancel the vote for now. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu here is much more difficult to read. Is he trying to read a bit of good will right before Kerry's speech perhaps? Or maybe he's responding to criticism even from within -- within his own party that his statements against P resident Barack Obama, his criticism there has gone just a bit too far and his diplomatic actions against countries that voted for this Security Council resolution has gone too far, and he's backing off just a little bit before the speech.
Don, what Israel's concerned about is follow-up action, perhaps not from Kerry or the U.S. itself, but from the international community based on what Kerry said. Not only the Israelis, but the Palestinians also waiting to see what comes out of Kerry's speech.
LEMON: All right. Oren, thank you very much. Appreciate that.
A story tribute at Pearl Harbor. President Barack Obama and Japan's prime minister come together to remember the lives lost 75 years ago, but something President Obama said that has some wondering if he was talking about President-elect Donald Trump.
Let's head out to CNN's Athena Jones, of course, with more on what both leaders had to say. Athena, good morning to you.
ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Don.
That's right, it was a historic day, a day 75 years in the making. The U.S. president and Japanese prime minister together for the first time at the USS Arizona. Both leaders later delivering moving speeches evoking the sights and sounds of that day and 1941, talking about the people who never made it home. Both also stressing the power of reconciliation and the importance of tolerance. Here's more of what the president had to say.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It is here that we remember that, even when hatred burns hottest, even when the tug of tribalism is at its most primal, we must resist the urge to turn inward. We must resist the urge to demonize those who are different.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JONES: To many, that statement sounded like a challenge to some of the divisive rhetoric heard from President-elect Trump on the campaign trail.
Now, Prime Minister Abe called the partnership between the U.S. And Japan an alliance of hope and said his visit to the "USS Arizona" left him speechless -- Poppy, Don.
LEMON: All right, thank you, Athena.
Let's bring back in our panel. Senior political analyst Ron Brownstein and CNN political analyst Jackie Kucinich. So let's talk about the president in Honolulu, shall we? Was that a swipe at Donald Trump when he said, you know, we have to not turn to anger?
BROWNSTEIN: It sure sounded like it. And it sounded like the way we're going to hear from President Obama after the election. It's hard to believe the personal detente that President-elect Trump and President Obama have managed since the election can survive after the inaugural. Because so much of what Donald Trump has promised to do initially is simply to overturn important priorities of President Obama, starting with climate change and healthcare. There is a collision. But I think that inevitable.
And I think that President Obama's language yesterday may give you a preview of -- or today may give you the kind of language that you might hear raising it to a higher level and talking about fundamental American values and not necessarily personally criticizing the president, the new president, but affirming those values that he sees in contradictions, some of the things that Donald Trump is pushing.
LEMON: It started out well. I mean, they were cordial. He went to the White House.
HARLOW: The meeting lasted a long time.
LEMON: Long time. The president said, "We'll do whatever it takes to help with the transition."
BROWNSTEIN: But there's a lot of policy disagreement coming.
HARLOW: I mean, Jackie, even on, like, the policy that perhaps Trump and those who support him hate the most, Obamacare. Trump came out of that meeting and seemed open to keeping some facets of Obamacare.
Now, here's what he tweeted overnight: "President Obama campaigned hard and personally in the very important swing states and lost. The voters wanted to make America great again."
I ask this of Trump surrogates and supporters often: to what end? And they say he's a winner. He likes to win, but he's won. So this confounds a lot of people.
LEMON: Two days later, why is he still tweeting about this?
KUCINICH: Why does Trump tweet anything? He obviously -- no, but he can't let things go. We've seen this over and over again. And sometimes Obama does seem to like to get under his skin in terms of what he said the other day with saying that he could have defeated Trump. I mean, why would you say that? Other than to sort of tweak Donald Trump.
This will be very interesting to see how Obama handles talking about Donald Trump, as Ron said, once he leaves office. Because there is a tradition among former presidents to not criticize the current person in the office, because it is a unique experience that only, you know, how many people at this point that are walking this earth have -- have experienced.
So they know -- they uniquely know the pressures that that person is under. So we'll have to see how that's handled, because this is a very unique situation.
HARLOW: OK. So moving onto Israel and the speech that Secretary of State John Kerry will give today. As you both know, look, he was, frankly, a little bit more successful at one point than others before him in terms of getting the two sides of the table. He got the two sides of the table for a few months in 2013. Obviously, it did not -- they did not get the outcome that the United States was hoping. And there has been a lack of progress and then this.
[06:25:06] But what do you think he will say, Ron, in his speech today and the timing: 23 days out from the end of this administration.
BROWNSTEIN: You know, the timing. Like so many other things that President Obama has done since the election. This is about laying down markers and creating a kind of frame of argument that then Donald Trump will have to navigate through.
Bill Clinton did it very late, too, as well, in terms of laying down parameters. Look, I think what he's going to do is reaffirm their belief that the only long-time viability for Israel is in a real two- state solution to the relations with the Palestinians and the continued settlement building ultimately undermines the possibility of that. That is the way they view what the Netanyahu government has been doing.
And the furious response from Israel is kind of the idea that this was cooked up somewhere in the West Wing of the White House. It kind of belies the reality of the vote. I mean, look at the countries that voted for this resolution. I mean, look at the countries that voted for this resolution. I mean, it was France and Great Britain and Russia and China who don't usually take, you know, dictates from the American White House and Japan and Spain and, you know, a wide variety of countries around the world.
So the question that you're raising in the conversation in Israel is, is this ultimately further isolating Israel? Now, there's not much hope that John Kerry's prescriptions about what comes next are going to have a lot of influence with Donald Trump. But it at least lays down the markers of what they believe was the way forward.
LEMON: But let's talk about Jerusalem canceling that vote today to approve construction. It's 492 new homes in eastern Jerusalem.
Did they do it because of the speech, Jackie? Or do you think they did it because it would appear that they were doing exactly what the resolution is saying that they should not be doing.
KUCINICH: I think it could go either way. But I wanted to respond to something Ron said about there was this consensus with a lot of the other members.
Well, here at home, Kerry needs to sort of do a little bit of fixing, because he -- the American public is trending toward Israel, on this new administration is trending behind Israel.
Look at the reaction that Kerry got from people in his own party. Chuck Schumer condemned the action. Steny Hoyer issued a press release. The Democrat from Maryland that was very critical of the speech that Kerry is going to give. There is a lot of political tension at home with what they did, and they are looking to probably smooth that over.
HARLOW: We're going to have -- we're going to have the former U.S. envoy to the Middle East under George Mitchell under Obama on, and he had actually said publicly that he thinks the Obama administration should have vetoed this.
BROWNSTEIN: Right. I don't think Kerry is going to go too far in the other direction of kind of backing away, because I think the resolution does reflect, for better or worse, the Obama administration vision of what it takes to move forward. Look, it's hard to argue, given the loggerheads between Obama and Netanyahu, that this kind of confrontational approach has produced a lot of progress.
I think the open question is whether, if Donald Trump comes in and signal and all sorts of ways that is going to be more deferential to Netanyahu. Essentially, accept his definition of what the best path to long-term security is. Whether that will lead toward any more productive path.
LEMON: There's so much more to talk about. We'll do it later on in this broadcast. But also, Jackie mentioned the politics here in the United States. There's also the politics in Israel, as well. And Netanyahu tried to save -- help himself politically.
And also this resolution is -- there have been stronger resolutions against Israel. So the question is, is it perception? Is it reality? What is the truth behind it?
HARLOW: All right. The Obama administration. We've got to leave it there. Thank you.
Coming up, one airline making sure that unruly passengers like Don stay in line. The surprising way they say they could stop a dangerous situation onboard. That's next on NEW DAY.