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Trump Drops Longtime Inauguration Announcer; Interview with Mayor Nir Barkat; "La La Land" Breaks Awards Record. Aired 10:30-11a ET

Aired January 9, 2017 - 10:30   ET


[10:31:55] CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning, I'm Carol Costello. Thank you so much for joining me.

You might not know his name but his voice is legendary. That's because he's announced every inaugural parade since Dwight Eisenhower.


CHARLIE BROTMAN, INAUGURATION ANNOUNCER: President George W. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush.


COSTELLO: His name is Charlie Brotman. And this year will be different for Brotman, that's because he found out last week in an e- mail that the Trump team is going in a different direction. In his place, a freelance announcer named Steve Ray who reportedly volunteered for Trump.

Charlie Brotman joins me now live. Thanks, Charlie, for being here.

BROTMAN: It's a pleasure, looking forward to it.

COSTELLO: It's a pleasure to have you here. So you found out in an e-mail? Did it just pop into your inbox?

BROTMAN: Well, I looked at my e-mail, then I got the shock of my life. I felt like Muhammad Ali had hit me in the stomach. And all in all, it went fine. I'm sure the new announcer is going to do spectacular also.

COSTELLO: Well, you're a kind man to say so. But I'm curious as to what exactly that e-mail said.

BROTMAN: The -- it's been a thrill to be a part of this. I've done 15 inaugurals and 10 different presidents, and every one I treat like it's the first time. It's never ho-hum, I've been there before. It's really exciting. And I have had the pleasure of meeting many of these presidents. I have some of the pictures. Would you like to --

COSTELLO: Please share. Yes.

BROTMAN: Here, Clinton. And another, Nixon.

COSTELLO: Oh, my goodness.

BROTMAN: Yes. These are all fun stuff. Bush.

COSTELLO: Yes. I see that.

BROTMAN: It's -- and I have Reagan.

COSTELLO: I know because --

BROTMAN: I have several others.

COSTELLO: I know, I covered so many inaugurations where I had the pleasure of hearing your voice announce the event.

BROTMAN: Let me show you a sample of the script. Look how thick it is.


BROTMAN: For those who are over 50 years old, it's like the Yellow Pages that you remember.

COSTELLO: Yes, that's true. Is that -- that's not the one you prepared for this -- Trump's inauguration, is it?

BROTMAN: This is Obama's script.


BROTMAN: It's the first one.

COSTELLO: Well, I want to go -- I want to go back to that e-mail that you got from the Trump team.

BROTMAN: OK. Let's do it.

COSTELLO: Telling you that you would not be part of this year's inaugural parade.

BROTMAN: Correct.

COSTELLO: What did that e-mail say?

BROTMAN: Basically they have found another announcer, and that Charlie, you're a legend and you're wonderful, and all kinds of great lines that I wish I could use myself sometime, but basically this gentleman that you see is really good, and -- but I was disappointed because I thought I would be the announcer. And then when I read the e-mail, I thought I was going to commit suicide. It was really terrible. But it all went fine.

COSTELLO: Are you surprised, Charlie? Are you surprised, Charlie, that you were told in an e-mail and you didn't get a personal call from someone on the Trump team?

BROTMAN: I was surprised. Maybe shocked. And it's one of these things where I think that a newer announcer, a younger announcer, might be in order. I'm 89 years old, and thank goodness I'm getting older. I don't want to get old, just older.

COSTELLO: I totally get that. Do you think that you were replaced because Ray volunteered for the Trump team?

BROTMAN: It's possible. I've had a couple of people mention to me that Steve did such a great job as a volunteer for Trump, and then Trump wanted to reward him, and probably, and now I'm just assuming, that Steve basically said, thank you for allowing me to be a volunteer, I'm glad everything went well. And Trump saying, well, is there anything I can do for you, and perhaps he may have said, well, I'm an announcer, I'd love to announce when you're presidential inaugural parade.

COSTELLO: Right. So let me ask you this question. Has the inaugural parade -- I mean, have incoming presidents -- I mean, has it ever been really political? Because you've announced parades for Republicans, Democrats, whoever.

BROTMAN: What is the question?

COSTELLO: Well, has it ever become political like this, like the announcing of the parade was contingent on whether you supported that particular incoming president?

BROTMAN: I really don't know. I know that I've been doing it for 60 years, and no one has ever asked whether I'm a Democrat, Republican, independent. So it's just the ability of the individual announcer. I have been the only announcer that's ever, again, announced the inaugural parade. And so I was taken back a little bit thinking, gee, how did they get another person? But I've met the other person and he's terrific. He'll really do well.

COSTELLO: Well, that is lovely for you to say.

Charlie Brotman, thank you so much for being with me this morning. I do appreciate it.

BROTMAN: I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you.

COSTELLO: Thank you.

Moments ago, the Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell arrived at Trump Tower. We know that today he's scheduled to meet with UK Foreign secretary Boris Johnson along with other congressional leaders, that is, Donald Trump, so maybe this has something to do with that, we don't know. But we'll try to find out. I'll be right back.


[10:43:01] COSTELLO: All right. An update now to the breaking news we brought you just a couple of minutes ago. An Orlando, Florida, police officer has now died. That's after being shot nine times outside of a Wal-Mart store. The Orlando Police Department will hold a news conference shortly, of course when it starts we'll bring it to you live.

Right now there is this massive manhunt for the suspected gunman. That man is Markeith Lloyd. That's the man you're seeing on your screen right now. According to CNN affiliate WFTV, Lloyd was wearing a security-type uniform when he shot the officer. Right now 17 schools are in lockdown as this manhunt continues.

New details in the Jerusalem truck attack that killed four people. We're now learning that one of the victims had a dual U.S. and Israeli citizenship. We do have some new pictures of the attack and they might disturb some of you. You can see the soldiers were standing in a parking lot when a truck just ran through the crowd. The driver then turned around and drove back into the crowd. The scene simply horrific.

Here to talk about this is the mayor of Jerusalem, Nir Barkat. Welcome, sir.


COSTELLO: America's condolences, of course, go out to those in Jerusalem. How are people doing there? You know, you live through so much of this. Like, I don't know, how are people doing?

BARKAT: Well, first of all, we're mourning the loss of the four young Israelis in a terror attack similar to Nice and similarly to what happened in Berlin. Radical Islam and terror is global. I think if anything, in Israel and especially Jerusalem, we know how to deal with them. We know how to pinpoint the bad guys and go after them and make sure they pay a heavy price. And we also know how to continue on with our life as part of making sure terror understands that they will not deter our life. We will never give up and we will fight terror, and we will and we are successful a majority of the times.

[10:45:02] COSTELLO: Benjamin Netanyahu says this Israeli attacker may be an ISIS sympathizer. You say so, too. What more can you tell us about this attacker?

BARKAT: Well, unfortunately he probably woke up in the morning and decided to kill innocent Israelis and Jews. And he got on his truck and went to create a terror attack. That's a pattern that we are unfortunately seeing all over the world. And the key here is to identify that early, to make sure that anybody that cooperated with him and helped him and incited him will pay a heavy price.

We have to make sure that it doesn't pay to be part or around or support radical Islam, ISIS, or any other terrorist organization. Terror is terror is terror and we will fight in combat and beat terror everywhere else in the world.

COSTELLO: Well, what evidence is there that points to ISIS?

BARKAT: I'm not sure that this is the best time to share it. But the security forces in Israel have gathered information that points to that direction. And we understand that -- and other organizations. By the way, it doesn't matter if it's ISIS or other organizations. Whoever is engaged and involved in this will pay a heavy price. This time we know that it's an ISIS-related attack.

COSTELLO: Just because of the mode of attack?

BARKAT: I'm not sure I even know all the details. But when the security forces tell me that from all the information they gathered and the research they've done about the murderer or terrorist, they know how to pinpoint that. And there's no doubt in my mind that the people associated with him will pay a heavy price.

COSTELLO: Let's talk about justice being meted out. Your prime minister ordered the demolition of the alleged attacker's family home, is not handing over the body to the family. That probably would not happen in the United States. Why go to that extreme measure to punish the family of this attacker?

BARKAT: Terrorists are bad people. And if you don't know how to be very vicious and bad with the bad people, you'll never be able to be good with the good people, which is the majority of the people around the world. The terrorists are not using any rule of law to kill innocent people. And the measures against terrorists is very different than measures against, unfortunately, crime and other means of, you know, being out of law.

Terrorists are using no rules, no rules to claim lives. Therefore the rules against them must be extremely aggressive in order to make sure that it doesn't pay to be -- you know, to be a bad guy. I think it's very, very clear in Israel. And if the world does not follow those very, very clear ideas, the world will pay a heavy price.

You know, in Jerusalem it takes us 60 seconds to neutralize a terrorist. And unfortunately, that's another element, I think, the world will have to probably improve very, very quickly, otherwise every -- every terror attack in the world unfortunately pays a heavy toll and takes a long time to neutralize.

COSTELLO: Yes. And I just -- I know you have to go soon so I just want to ask you about Jared Kushner, who's Mr. Trump's son-in-law, and Ivanka Trump, because I understand that you are friends with Jared Kushner, and Mr. Trump says that Jared Kushner could greatly help with peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians. Do you believe that?

BARKAT: I think the whole Trump administration is geared to understand that you have to be really aggressive with the bad guy and good with the good guys, with the allies, with strategic partners of the United States, which is Israel, and other, you know, good people, moderate Arab countries around the Middle East.

COSTELLO: But how can Jared Kushner help?

BARKAT: Well, again, it's not just about Jared. It's about making sure that there are good and bad people and you align interests with the good people and you fight the bad people. Then you have to choose. Either they want peace and then you open doors and invest and develop and Israel has demonstrated we know how to do that in the past. COSTELLO: No, no, I understand what you're saying.

BARKAT: Or you want to go --

COSTELLO: I just want to ask you about Jared Kushner because he's a bit of a mystery to Americans because we've never heard him speak in any public forum, and you know him. So can you just tell us what you know about him and how he might be able to help with peace talks in the Middle East?

BARKAT: First of all, he's got the right attitude. As does President-elect Trump. And the new administration. The right vision, the right understanding of how to align with partners. Second is, you know, friends in Israel, and I believe that when you come with an open mind and you align interests and you seek partnership with moderate people on the other side.

[10:50:10] And you fight that radical people on the other side, you practically -- if there's a chance for peace, that's the direction to take. And I am sure that Jared, Ivanka, and President-elect Trump and his whole administration is aligned with that understanding.

COSTELLO: All right. I have to leave it there. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for being with me this morning.

I'll be right back.


COSTELLO: Meryl Streep's political speech might have been the standout moment from the Golden Globes, but the musical "La La Land" was the big winner of the night, taking home a record seven awards.

CNN's Stephanie Elam has more for you from Los Angeles. Good morning.

STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Carol. That was a big win. The record there being beaten by "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," the last time a movie won six awards.

[10:55:03] So this one beating big time here in "La La Land," which was expected to be a favorite there doing quite well, winning every award that it was up for. Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone also winning for their performances in the modern day musical as well.

The other big winner of the night was "Moonlight," which won Best Dramatic Picture, and that was that people were wondering if it was going to come through and when, or whether it would beat "Manchester By the Sea." So that movie doing well, getting that Best Picture nod. That was a big one.

A lot of big speeches that we saw there as well, Carol. We saw Ryan Gosling with a very touching speech to his love, his lady, as he put it, Eva Mendez, for raising their daughters and also helping her brother while he was battling cancer. So a tender side that we got to see to some of the stars. Lots of beautiful dresses. There he goes, as he walked up to give that speech. Beautiful dresses, beautiful classic tuxedos.

I was on the red carpet and it looked like people went back for a lot of old Hollywood glamour last night -- Carol.

COSTELLO: Sure did. Stephanie Elam reporting live from Los Angeles, thank you.

Thank you for joining me today. I'm Carol Costello. "AT THIS HOUR WITH BERMAN AND BOLDUAN," after the break.


ANNOUNCER: This is CNN Breaking News.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone, I'm John Berman.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Kate Bolduan. Right now we are following breaking news. An Orlando police officer shot and killed this morning.

Happening right now an intense manhunt under way for the shooter. Police are about to hold a news conference. We're watching for that any moment.

BERMAN: Yes. This is a serious situation in the Orlando area. You're looking at live pictures from where this news conference will take place. Right now a number of schools in that area have been closed as precaution, as the manhunt ensues.

CNN's Paul Sandoval is covering this for us right now. Polo, what can you tell us about this?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: John and Kate, at least 17 of those schools are closed right now with this massive manhunt is under way in Orlando, as we await more details about what took place during what is now this deadly police shooting.

This is what we do know at this point. According to several witnesses at a local Wal-Mart there in the city of Orlando, several witnesses reported that this officer tried to speak to an individual who was wearing what was described as a security vest.